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EPISODE SUMMARY:
The audience will get an overview of Brooklyn Technical High School as Frank celebrates his 40th Homecoming for the class of 1985.
In 1985 Frank R. Harrison graduated from Brooklyn Technical High School which 40 years later has been a guiding force in building STEM pipelines with alumni and future students. With the Advent of Medical Technologies, Artificial Intelligence and Emphasis on future Business Leaders, Lawyers, Medical Professionals and Engineers. This episode aims to define the next set of episodes of Frank About Health showing that Professional education especially in Healthcare needs to develop more of an emphasis on STEM education which Brooklyn Tech has been a leader.
Clips of the school's history and memories of previous guests who have graduated with Frank will be featured.
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In this special episode of Frank About Health, Frank R. Harrison celebrates his 40th Brooklyn Technical High School reunion alongside guest David Yang, highlighting how a strong STEM foundation empowered both of them to build dynamic healthcare-focused careers. David shares his journey from studying atmospheric chemistry to contributing to the Human Genome Project and advancing medical device innovation, emphasizing how a STEM education teaches lifelong adaptability to emerging challenges. Together, they reflect on how technical training, critical thinking, and applied science can meaningfully drive innovation and advocacy within today's complex healthcare landscape.
In this segment of Frank About Health, Frank R. Harrison and David Yang reflect on how their Brooklyn Tech education equipped them to adapt creatively during times of healthcare chaos, like the COVID-19 pandemic and earlier crises such as AIDS. They emphasize that STEM foundations not only teach technical knowledge but also foster innovation by applying tools across industries and building strong, resilient communities in times of uncertainty. Through their careers and experiences, they advocate for healthcare professionals to embrace entrepreneurial thinking, peer-to-peer knowledge sharing, and adaptive problem-solving as essential practices in modern healthcare leadership.
In this reflective part of Frank About Health, Frank R. Harrison and David Yang discuss how Brooklyn Tech’s unique educational approach fostered not just technical skills but lifelong self-agency, entrepreneurial thinking, and healthcare innovation. They highlight the critical role of mentorship, early awareness, and community building in creating future healthcare leaders, and emphasize that institutions like Brooklyn Tech serve as foundational "pre-college" environments where students must take ownership of their growth. Through honoring alumni contributions and promoting self-directed learning, they celebrate the enduring impact of a STEM-driven mindset in shaping resilient, adaptive healthcare professionals.
In the closing segment, Frank R. Harrison and David Yang honor Brooklyn Tech alumni who have disrupted and advanced healthcare, from community health advocates to medical device innovators, while emphasizing the growing need for entrepreneurial thinking in managing personal and systemic healthcare challenges. They reflect on how today’s chaotic healthcare environment demands individual ownership, cross-disciplinary skills, and proactive community building, a philosophy deeply rooted in their STEM education. By celebrating the legacy of leaders like Matt Mandery and spotlighting upcoming voices like Dr. Marshall Runji, the episode calls for bold, informed action to help shape the future of healthcare through resilience, innovation, and collaboration.
00:00:54.050 --> 00:01:03.079 www.TalkRadio.nyc: Towering above the tree-lined streets in the Fort Greene section of Brooklyn stands a great edifice of granite, steel, and limestone.
00:01:03.080 --> 00:01:26.800 www.TalkRadio.nyc: a monument to the educational ideals of one man. Dr. Albert Colston, a visionary and educator, had a dream, establish a high school with a heavy concentration of stem courses, science, technology, engineering, and mathematics, a school with parallel paths leading either to college or a technical career in industry. On October 18, th 1918,
00:01:26.800 --> 00:01:33.770 www.TalkRadio.nyc: he presented a paper to the Brooklyn Engineers Club, recommending the creation of a school with a technical curriculum.
00:01:33.920 --> 00:01:49.070 www.TalkRadio.nyc: and in the spring of 1922. The Board of Education approved the establishment of Brooklyn Technical High School today. Brooklyn Tech opens the door to cutting edge 21st century fields of study.
00:01:49.220 --> 00:02:11.190 www.TalkRadio.nyc: It's a vast array of 18 majors, including instructional components in software, engineering, robotics, digital media, biological sciences, aerospace engineering, finance, law and society and 2 programs that culminate with doctorates from Long Island University pharmacy and advanced health professions
00:02:12.240 --> 00:02:12.940 www.TalkRadio.nyc: come back.
00:02:15.740 --> 00:02:26.909 www.TalkRadio.nyc: The history of Brooklyn Tech is so rich because it has evolved over the past 100 years from being created when technology was in its infancy
00:02:26.950 --> 00:02:34.210 www.TalkRadio.nyc: to today, when it's much more advanced, a school that was built upon the belief that it's important
00:02:34.220 --> 00:03:02.149 www.TalkRadio.nyc: that we learn how to apply knowledge rather than just learn theory. And we have moved from the beginning roots to being, I believe, one of the very special high schools in this country. As one of our former principals said, we are preparing students for careers that do not yet exist by preparing them to be able to face the challenges and be equipped to be able to apply what they've learned.
00:03:11.450 --> 00:03:15.870 Frank R. Harrison: Hey, everybody, and welcome to a very special episode of Frank about health.
00:03:16.180 --> 00:03:22.550 Frank R. Harrison: 1st of all, this is my 40th year of having graduated from that school in
00:03:22.770 --> 00:03:51.090 Frank R. Harrison: 1985. And my guest today, David Yang, is class of 1984. But both of us are definitely involved in health care in various ways. All of, you know from this podcast frank about health, I have spoken about a myriad of topics related about health care from epilepsy, mental health diabetes, cancer Covid. The list goes on, and of course you all may remember we've had some
00:03:51.290 --> 00:03:59.920 Frank R. Harrison: alumni from Brooklyn Tech on the show as well. The Honorable Tanya, Kennedy, Solange, Pilizzota. We've had David Lee as well as
00:04:00.000 --> 00:04:25.589 Frank R. Harrison: Alex Yaroslavsky, and more about them later on. But this episode is devoted to paying tribute, not just to Brooklyn Tech, but also to the individuals that Brooklyn Tech impacted to really focus on careers in health, whether it was practicing health or engineering, the tools to apply health or, for example, host, A podcast on healthcare.
00:04:26.070 --> 00:04:53.100 Frank R. Harrison: So that, all being said, I will issue a standard disclaimer that this is a celebration episode. We are not providing any information that will be controversial in any way. If you find that anything we discuss is upsetting to you, or is not worthy of your time. Then this is not the show for you. I'm just being frank about the fact that I'm hoping all my tech friends and followers and family members
00:04:53.570 --> 00:05:22.860 Frank R. Harrison: are watching this show right now, so that we can celebrate homecoming together. Because, as you all may be aware, today's episode was to feature Dr. Marshall Runji, who, due to chaos and confusion that continues to exist in our healthcare space, he will be here next week, but in order to subdue the chaos. The opportunity came to celebrate Brooklyn Tech, which has been a foundation for me to really enter the stem fields and ultimately apply my stem education
00:05:23.170 --> 00:05:37.839 Frank R. Harrison: into healthcare. So now, David, it's your moment, by all means. I've already announced your year and everything. I'd like you to unmute your your your audio, and just introduce yourself out loud and and tech proud.
00:05:37.840 --> 00:05:51.220 David ipad: Great thanks, Frank, thank you so much for this opportunity. Yep, as Frank said, I am also a Brooklyn Tech alumni, one year older than Frank graduated in 84.
00:05:51.600 --> 00:06:04.749 David ipad: I grew up in Brooklyn, New York, and had heard about Brooklyn Tech during my grade school years, and was very excited to take the tech test, and was very excited to get in.
00:06:04.900 --> 00:06:23.369 David ipad: And the very 1st day of Brooklyn Technical High School for me was a pivotal moment, because that very 1st day was when I met my wife. As it turns out, my wife and I had 0 period at the time it was honors English, and
00:06:23.370 --> 00:06:35.799 David ipad: we obviously had no idea what the life that we were about to embark upon. But many years later we got married. We were friends throughout the Brooklyn tech years.
00:06:36.450 --> 00:06:45.650 David ipad: And yeah, and so she and and we now live in Southern California. We have 2 wonderful daughters. This is a live screen. So you can see we have
00:06:45.840 --> 00:06:51.590 David ipad: blue skies right now. My pomegranate tree is starting to grow in. So we're very happy and excited about that.
00:06:51.970 --> 00:06:53.180 Frank R. Harrison: Very nice.
00:06:53.480 --> 00:07:07.160 David ipad: So just I'm going to very briefly go through. So after Brooklyn Tech. So at Brooklyn Tech I actually took was one of the chemistry majors. It was one of the of the 10 courses that you had to take once you
00:07:07.520 --> 00:07:21.019 David ipad: more in your junior year. You selected from among 10 different courses and chemistry at that time was by far the most popular. One of our 1,200 graduates, approximately 250 were actually chem majors.
00:07:22.290 --> 00:07:27.670 David ipad: didn't know a lot about what I was getting into, except that it sounded like it was exciting and fun.
00:07:28.510 --> 00:07:37.069 David ipad: Wound up pursuing that at Brooklyn College, so I stayed in Brooklyn for college. Many of my friends and
00:07:37.671 --> 00:07:42.730 David ipad: schoolmates went far and wide. I actually stayed in Brooklyn, went to Brooklyn College.
00:07:42.890 --> 00:07:47.659 David ipad: and then wound up getting my Phd. At Emory University in Atlanta.
00:07:48.770 --> 00:07:59.460 David ipad: Now this was in 1988, when I went to Atlanta, Emory and I actually studied something that was about as far removed from healthcare as possible.
00:07:59.690 --> 00:08:04.610 David ipad: It was literally studying the atmosphere of Titan, one of the moons of Saturn.
00:08:04.930 --> 00:08:07.619 David ipad: So it was a very interesting
00:08:08.060 --> 00:08:28.130 David ipad: project, because we had just gotten past the voyager missions which explored Jupiter and Saturn. And there was this hypothesis that there actually may be life on Titan, one of the moons of Saturn, and that hypothesis persists today. And in fact, I believe next year, or in the next
00:08:28.400 --> 00:08:31.339 David ipad: few years we're going to send another probe back out there.
00:08:32.320 --> 00:08:32.970 Frank R. Harrison: Now.
00:08:32.970 --> 00:08:41.880 David ipad: Nevertheless, got my degree in gas phase, kinetics. And a funny thing happened along the way, which is the Cold war ended.
00:08:42.470 --> 00:09:02.669 David ipad: So that was important because a lot of this fundamental research was funded by the Government. It was DOE Department of Energy, Dod Department of Defense, and so there were some military applications to some of the work that I was doing, but a lot of that funding basically evaporated.
00:09:02.880 --> 00:09:24.239 David ipad: So we actually had 2 choices. One was to move to North Korea because they were trying to fund new missiles, you know. That was a possibility. We probably would have been welcomed there. Not a very savory choice, but the other one was to pivot to apply some of the physical chemistry techniques to life sciences.
00:09:24.510 --> 00:09:28.741 David ipad: And my very 1st let healthcare project was
00:09:30.136 --> 00:09:34.900 David ipad: was building a system to to sequence the human genome.
00:09:35.250 --> 00:09:43.110 David ipad: So back in the 19 eighties and nineties there was a huge project to sequence. The human genome.
00:09:43.250 --> 00:09:45.169 David ipad: So, as many of you know.
00:09:46.060 --> 00:09:49.760 David ipad: DNA is our genetic material.
00:09:49.960 --> 00:10:05.720 David ipad: and it's really only 4 letters a. GCT. Is how we abbreviate it. But this encyclopedia of 4 billion characters is what defines Frank defines me. It defines, you know, all the people that we know with very very minute differences.
00:10:05.910 --> 00:10:13.499 David ipad: And the problem at the time is, we had no idea what the right sequence is. What is the sequence of the letters that creates the different people.
00:10:13.930 --> 00:10:30.399 David ipad: So at the time the Government funded a multi-billion dollar project that, in my opinion, has been one of the most spectacularly successful projects initiated by any government, maybe second only to landing on the moon.
00:10:30.780 --> 00:10:45.079 David ipad: But the ability now to sequence the human genome went from taking years to taking days, from costing hundreds of millions of dollars to. I believe that right now you can have your
00:10:45.610 --> 00:10:48.699 David ipad: genome sequence for about $3,000.
00:10:49.090 --> 00:11:03.129 David ipad: So so I'm going to go into more detail a little bit. But that's how I got involved in in the health chemistry, because I use a technique called laser induced fluorescence that was basically invented at Stanford University by Professor Zaire
00:11:03.210 --> 00:11:21.220 David ipad: to actually do the sequencing of the human genome. So I think that I like to say that I contributed, you know, point 1 0 0 0 1% to the grand effort. Because we actually built one of the critical tools to be able to do that.
00:11:21.640 --> 00:11:23.030 Frank R. Harrison: Nice, very.
00:11:23.030 --> 00:11:29.339 David ipad: Yeah, after that. You know, I was involved in a myriad of different
00:11:29.440 --> 00:11:38.540 David ipad: techniques around health care, including protein analysis, cellular analysis. But I've really had an affinity to DNA, and
00:11:38.960 --> 00:11:40.930 David ipad: probably my goal of this whole
00:11:41.140 --> 00:12:01.799 David ipad: long winded story is, 1st of all, talking about my favorite subject, which is me. But second, to point out that a stem education does not necessarily mean that what you learn is what you're going to do forever. A stem education is to teach you to learn so that you can adapt to the new
00:12:02.780 --> 00:12:09.709 David ipad: competencies that are required. As Matt Mandry said, it's to prepare us for the job that doesn't exist yet.
00:12:10.120 --> 00:12:10.790 Frank R. Harrison: Yes.
00:12:11.100 --> 00:12:28.239 David ipad: So for the last 30 or so years, that's what I've been doing. I've been working on. I think of myself as a medical devices expert with enough information about hematology, DNA analysis, protein analysis to get myself in trouble.
00:12:28.790 --> 00:12:29.540 Frank R. Harrison: So
00:12:29.540 --> 00:12:41.019 Frank R. Harrison: I would venture to say that I followed the similar pathway, because when I went to Brooklyn Tech I just didn't want to go to my zone school in New York City, which today is a homeless shelter, to say the least.
00:12:41.020 --> 00:12:41.560 David ipad: Oh, really.
00:12:41.560 --> 00:12:46.179 Frank R. Harrison: However, that being said, I only knew that I loved mathematics.
00:12:46.580 --> 00:12:47.290 David ipad: Okay.
00:12:47.290 --> 00:13:05.359 Frank R. Harrison: Okay. So I started with what I knew, and there was one specific woman there who rest her soul. Elizabeth Scabara, who handpicked me in the summer program in the summer of 82, because I had missed the admissions test to get into Brooklyn Tech by 4 points.
00:13:05.480 --> 00:13:31.140 Frank R. Harrison: thanks to her, and because of my elevated math knowledge, I was taking trigonometry in the 9th grade, and at that time we had the junior high school system, not the middle school. So you can enter Brooklyn Tech in the 10, th which is what I did, and because of all that advanced math, she selected me into the program. I was A. J. Sophomore, and I just accelerated through ending up being the second class of the Math Science Institute.
00:13:31.380 --> 00:13:31.760 Frank R. Harrison: Yes.
00:13:31.760 --> 00:13:39.270 Frank R. Harrison: choose majors. But to me I didn't want to do architecture, you know, I or or technical drawing. I wanted to do
00:13:39.470 --> 00:13:48.510 Frank R. Harrison: mathematics and really engineer it or understand it analytically, and then foster my college education, but we're now ready for our 1st break.
00:13:48.730 --> 00:14:01.359 Frank R. Harrison: So I guess you just did a nice segue, because what we're showing is a reunion of sorts, class of 84, with class of 85, but at the same time showing that while this is frank about health.
00:14:01.940 --> 00:14:07.399 Frank R. Harrison: frank about health, or any kind of healthcare modality like the one that you've explored in your career
00:14:07.700 --> 00:14:28.869 Frank R. Harrison: has to come from some form of taking the tools and techniques that you're given and map them out to make them work for you ultimately. And that is kind of the secret of what Brooklyn Tech's educational system is about, so more on that. When we return right here on this episode of Frank about health on Talkradio, Dot, Nyc, our Youtube channel.
00:14:29.000 --> 00:14:32.310 Frank R. Harrison: Facebook, Linkedin and Twitch, we'll be back in a few.
00:16:15.460 --> 00:16:21.529 Frank R. Harrison: Hey, everybody, and welcome back. As I was just saying, towards our 1st break, I was mentioning to David that
00:16:21.580 --> 00:16:49.579 Frank R. Harrison: you know Brooklyn Tech in itself today has become a very highly respected institution, not just because of stem education, but the recent innovations in artificial intelligence. And also, as you heard, there are people now majoring in law and society, in finance, things that were not available when both of us went to Brooklyn Tech. It was your traditional architecture, aerospace industrial design, graphic communications.
00:16:49.580 --> 00:17:03.249 Frank R. Harrison: I believe they introduced the Math Science Institute and biomedical sciences at that particular year when I was graduating. But the thing was is. I always thought of Brooklyn Tech as the place to become an engineer.
00:17:03.380 --> 00:17:30.569 Frank R. Harrison: And so what I had learned with my technical knowledge as well as my mathematics, or love of mathematics is, I guess I go into business. So hence I went to Nyu's stern school of business, and I had a nice 4 year education there. But something was always missing. It was that drive and that passion that I had to be a Dj. To be in entertainment, and of course, I think I even told you this privately yesterday.
00:17:31.020 --> 00:17:48.460 Frank R. Harrison: If I had known then what I knew now, I would have, instead of gone, the traditional route, and ended up a banker at Citibank. For a year and a half I would have ended up at Sony Music entertainment, where I did spend 10 years of my life after the fact. So I seem to have followed a pattern
00:17:48.620 --> 00:18:04.829 Frank R. Harrison: where I fall in to what I'm meant to do. But at least I'm aware of my skill. Set my tools, and I always give credence to Brooklyn Tech for giving me the foundation of recognizing my assets, but still needing to learn as I go through life.
00:18:04.940 --> 00:18:11.870 Frank R. Harrison: Probably my epilepsy has been a reason for the delay. I don't know. I mean, there's neurological differences in all of us. But
00:18:11.880 --> 00:18:38.089 Frank R. Harrison: yet it could be the secret sauce, because when I do find what I need to be doing, it actually is an explosive growth period for me so maybe that's the kind of career that I was destined to have. But again, as I was saying earlier, I don't think that kind of life would have been given to me unless I had the foundation of Brooklyn Technical High School. So I would say, the theme of our last section was that if anyone is building a legacy
00:18:38.510 --> 00:18:40.749 Frank R. Harrison: like you built your family through Brooklyn Tech.
00:18:41.120 --> 00:19:01.830 Frank R. Harrison: it stems. It's metaphorically saying it stems from connection and connecting with each of us, and I'm really glad that that school is very big, because there's so many people to meet throughout your 4 years and beyond, you know, simultaneously, I would like to now take it for this, the theme of this moment, which is more about.
00:19:01.990 --> 00:19:04.770 Frank R. Harrison: We have so much chaos going on in this country.
00:19:05.010 --> 00:19:22.390 Frank R. Harrison: Now this has been the theme of various episodes of Frank about health since early April, but I think that you and I had a very heartfelt conversation yesterday where we were able to see how Brooklyn Tech is able to give us the skill set to manage this chaos and turn it into opportunity.
00:19:22.570 --> 00:19:30.480 Frank R. Harrison: So that being said. Why don't you share more about how, while you were going through your development in your career.
00:19:30.830 --> 00:19:37.559 Frank R. Harrison: what opportunities have you been able to discover during this time when there's just so much chaos going on.
00:19:39.950 --> 00:19:41.989 Frank R. Harrison: Oh, you have to unmute first.st
00:19:42.930 --> 00:19:43.600 Frank R. Harrison: Okay.
00:19:45.050 --> 00:19:48.470 David ipad: There we go. Sorry about that. No problem. Yeah.
00:19:48.590 --> 00:19:56.279 David ipad: Yeah. So I mean, as we all know, this is, these are chaotic times. Sometimes are more chaotic than others.
00:19:56.480 --> 00:20:07.779 David ipad: Where there's chaos there is risk. There's opportunity. I've been told that the Chinese character for crisis is danger and opportunity.
00:20:08.140 --> 00:20:16.450 David ipad: and so, you know, I have no doubt that as a nation we will come out through all this chaos stronger.
00:20:16.600 --> 00:20:30.210 David ipad: and having rooted in stem education, I think those of us in stem education actually have the ability to perhaps come out a little bit stronger because we are 10, you know.
00:20:30.570 --> 00:20:35.789 David ipad: Okay, what? My one person's opinion right, but we tend, I think.
00:20:35.790 --> 00:20:37.239 Frank R. Harrison: That's your disclaimer. Yeah.
00:20:37.240 --> 00:20:49.449 David ipad: That's my disclaimer. So but we tend to see what could be rather than what is or what was all the things that could be, you know, I think, back to when I was at Tech.
00:20:49.590 --> 00:20:52.370 David ipad: and we had a class called computer chemistry.
00:20:53.140 --> 00:20:54.830 David ipad: It was taught on a blackboard
00:20:55.340 --> 00:20:57.299 David ipad: because we did not have computers.
00:20:57.530 --> 00:21:09.599 David ipad: So this is what could be back in 1982 and 83 on what is the future for chemistry at that time without actually having the devices. These are things that you can do
00:21:11.078 --> 00:21:17.130 David ipad: and so so, before directly answering the question, one of the things that I, I
00:21:17.920 --> 00:21:28.729 David ipad: try to talk to people about is, you know, people talk about innovation. You need innovation. And I actually have a very specific definition of innovation. That's a little bit unique.
00:21:29.010 --> 00:21:31.990 David ipad: I separate innovation from invention.
00:21:32.500 --> 00:21:37.610 David ipad: I think that invention is something that never existed and is brand new to the world.
00:21:38.020 --> 00:21:43.189 David ipad: I think innovation is taking something from a different industry and applying it
00:21:43.350 --> 00:21:47.360 David ipad: to to your healthcare system, for example.
00:21:47.460 --> 00:21:49.119 David ipad: And that is the way
00:21:49.240 --> 00:22:01.820 David ipad: to advance, not by bringing up anything that's brand new, but taking things that already exist that exists at home depot that exists in your gardening system and applying it to health care.
00:22:01.920 --> 00:22:12.029 David ipad: So I think that as we go into these, you know difficult times, I think that there are tools that can allow us to be innovative.
00:22:12.260 --> 00:22:30.099 David ipad: Frank, you talked about something that I think it was you, actually. And I'm not 100% sure, because I was actually talking to my former chief medical officer who's talking about the past of the role that social media plays in advancing healthcare information.
00:22:30.390 --> 00:22:35.230 David ipad: Yeah, as you know, the fact is that the Cdc is shrinking.
00:22:35.350 --> 00:22:42.470 David ipad: Nih is shrinking. Nsf. Is shrinking, and so to disseminate information from one university to the other.
00:22:43.051 --> 00:22:46.339 David ipad: Is more difficult. But you know this now
00:22:46.460 --> 00:22:50.120 David ipad: affords the opportunity for the social media
00:22:50.680 --> 00:23:06.699 David ipad: to organize into a self, a peer reviewed, you know, a self voluntary peer review system that allows us to transmit the information, what's happening in Texas in terms of the measles crisis? Right? Okay?
00:23:07.060 --> 00:23:13.570 David ipad: You know, maybe there aren't as many government feet on the ground. But there sure are a lot of clinicians who really, you know.
00:23:14.440 --> 00:23:17.809 David ipad: want to get this information out, because they know.
00:23:18.000 --> 00:23:23.740 David ipad: as most people do, that they don't know, have all the answers, and by giving it out to the crowd
00:23:24.020 --> 00:23:30.170 David ipad: we can all share. Hey, have you thought about this? I observed this. We observed that
00:23:30.700 --> 00:23:35.449 David ipad: right? I want to. Just I I just want to digress just for another minute.
00:23:35.820 --> 00:23:36.410 Frank R. Harrison: Sure.
00:23:36.410 --> 00:23:46.250 David ipad: You and I went through New York City during probably one of the worst epidemics in the history of the United States. The Aids crisis.
00:23:46.490 --> 00:23:47.210 Frank R. Harrison: Yes.
00:23:47.210 --> 00:23:47.549 Frank R. Harrison: Do we need.
00:23:47.550 --> 00:23:56.929 David ipad: It took. It took my friend. It took a lot of people but I was talking to a lot of clinicians at the time.
00:23:57.430 --> 00:24:00.799 David ipad: who were clinicians at the time, and what they
00:24:00.910 --> 00:24:06.340 David ipad: what their 1st inkling about the Aids epidemic was in 1979, 1980.
00:24:06.530 --> 00:24:12.789 David ipad: This person died of a horse virus that doesn't kill anybody. That was unusual.
00:24:13.030 --> 00:24:17.009 Frank R. Harrison: Then 3 people died of a horse virus.
00:24:17.450 --> 00:24:20.230 David ipad: Now it's like, well, now, there's something going on.
00:24:20.400 --> 00:24:39.060 David ipad: The normal mode to get information out is via the journal peer reviewed journals with our social media. Again, we got to make sure that the information is accurate. We can now get that information much faster to say, Hey, there is something weird happening with virus mutations in this part of the country.
00:24:39.670 --> 00:24:56.429 David ipad: Hey? You know what we us in San Francisco. We notice the same thing, you know, and so it raises the flag. So crisis gives you an opportunity. And you know, and that's what we're trying to very quickly pivot towards. What can we do so that we can now
00:24:57.256 --> 00:25:03.500 David ipad: continue to advance healthcare in light of a lot of these cuts and chaos.
00:25:04.130 --> 00:25:21.789 Frank R. Harrison: Well, I can relate to that, especially with the covid crisis, because it was around that time when I was literally watching other kinds of health conditions affecting my father. In particular, he was recovering from cancer, and simultaneously, when I got Covid. It was during my 35th reunion which.
00:25:21.790 --> 00:25:22.160 David ipad: Oh!
00:25:22.160 --> 00:25:33.219 Frank R. Harrison: Zoom, and I had to actually my fever spiked in the 1st 5 min from 98.6 to 1 0, 3, I had to say, Happy 35. I'm going to sleep.
00:25:33.536 --> 00:25:34.169 Frank R. Harrison: I live
00:25:34.170 --> 00:25:51.749 Frank R. Harrison: literally fell asleep for 15 h afterwards, and the fevers I mean the fever that I had as well as the virus. Remember, there was no testing, there was no vaccines, there was nothing. It was literally March 20th when the city was shut down and March 27, th when I had that
00:25:52.620 --> 00:26:12.880 Frank R. Harrison: infection, if you will, you know. And there I was. I had to lock myself away from my father, getting it because he's on immunotherapy, and all I need is for the virus to make it ineffective, right or work. He did actually test positive for the antibodies for covid. So he was asymptomatic. So talk about miracles.
00:26:12.880 --> 00:26:13.270 David ipad: Wow!
00:26:13.270 --> 00:26:27.850 Frank R. Harrison: Thing is is that I was like feeling this burden. How can I make any information out there to anyone to know what they need to do to prepare when in the covid crisis, and when there are no solutions out there currently
00:26:28.690 --> 00:26:40.910 Frank R. Harrison: and so literally, that was part of the inception of Frank. Well, I actually had been on Frank about health before talking mainly about epilepsy, but I wanted to come back and talk all about Covid.
00:26:40.960 --> 00:27:04.070 Frank R. Harrison: and I really wanted to really do what you just stated, which is that when there is no information out there and a lot of stuff is being taken away. It's really saying that you, the individual, if you really want to make a change and help us all cope with what's going on in our healthcare system. You have to own all your own knowledge 1st and then share it.
00:27:04.350 --> 00:27:17.499 Frank R. Harrison: You know it's community building, and that's the stuff that I guess the traditional health professions have never specified. They figure you're the patient, and you've got your doctors. The doctors know what they're doing, and you just take your medicine.
00:27:17.770 --> 00:27:23.480 Frank R. Harrison: No, I think the most entrepreneurial profession to ever be in is healthcare.
00:27:23.780 --> 00:27:49.289 David ipad: Yeah. And you know, Frank, you know, going back to the whole. You know the Covid crisis, you know, I was with a large Molecular Diagnostics company, and it was we did molecular diagnostics. We did immunoassay. We did chemistries. It was a large large company, but we had a lot of people who were trying to understand. Okay, this thing, Covid, is happening. How can you diagnose Covid?
00:27:49.520 --> 00:27:51.550 David ipad: And you know
00:27:51.650 --> 00:28:18.250 David ipad: all professions have their strengths and have their weaknesses and the modality of testing. I learned that there were a lot of Mds. Who did not realize that the only way to diagnose Covid is through molecular testing. People thought that you can do it with immunology, you can do it with possibly hematology. What they didn't understand was something that you pointed out, which is that that all takes time.
00:28:18.420 --> 00:28:26.049 David ipad: the the direct detection of an infectious agent can happen within hours to days.
00:28:26.200 --> 00:28:39.800 David ipad: The immunological response takes days to weeks, and during those days to weeks. Your R. Value, your branching ratio. You could spread it to, you know half the world by the time they figure out what you have
00:28:39.900 --> 00:28:42.279 David ipad: but the tools that were invented.
00:28:42.737 --> 00:28:52.569 David ipad: Ironically, they were invented when we were in high school, because Kerry Mullis won the Nobel prize for Pcr. Which is a tool back in. I believe it was 85, but.
00:28:53.110 --> 00:29:00.300 David ipad: But again it all goes back to having just a fundamental understanding and putting all the pieces together, which is what stem education gives us.
00:29:00.570 --> 00:29:17.759 Frank R. Harrison: Exactly. And now we're about to take our second break. So when we return, we're going to pivot the show in a more reflective direction, not just of the value that tech and stem education has brought to you and I and to other people that we know that are also leaders in their respective fields.
00:29:17.760 --> 00:29:36.639 Frank R. Harrison: But we want to have a celebration of those individuals as pioneers in what they do. Because the message, like I said earlier, is it really doesn't matter what school you went to. But Brooklyn Tech does the fundamental thing that is kind of unwritten. It builds community. And usually in times of chaos.
00:29:36.810 --> 00:30:05.969 Frank R. Harrison: so that, all being said, everybody, please stay tuned right here on Frank about health. As we are celebrating the legacy of Brooklyn Technical High School, my 40th anniversary homecoming, as well as the 50th anniversary class of 75. Any listeners out there that's going to be celebrated in the special reunion dinner Saturday night more details on that coming in the rest of the show. But in the meantime we'll definitely get to promote all of our friends and everyone that has really had an impact on us in the past
00:30:06.050 --> 00:30:10.399 Frank R. Harrison: several decades. All right, everybody. We'll be back. Stay tuned.
00:31:41.150 --> 00:31:53.869 Frank R. Harrison: Hey, everybody, and welcome back this segment. I dub legacy in action, and the reason why I do is because we mentioned already some high profile names. We mentioned Elizabeth Scabara, who was very instrumental in bringing me to the school.
00:31:53.870 --> 00:32:19.809 Frank R. Harrison: and very instrumental in allowing me to participate in the centennial anniversary last 2 years ago, actually now 22. So that would be almost 3 years ago. But if anything, that was also our chance for the Zoom homecoming classes. 85, 86, 87 to all gather together and have our proper homecoming celebration. So indirectly, I already feel like I've had that massive homecoming thing. So I kind of feel bad about missing this weekend. But
00:32:20.130 --> 00:32:36.570 Frank R. Harrison: you know, if anything, I'm doing this celebration as a way of contributing. Now that being said. Another person that we mentioned was Matthew Mandery. Matthew Mandery, as you and I both know, was very instrumental in bringing us together into the stem.
00:32:36.570 --> 00:32:56.799 Frank R. Harrison: Future World Vision Advisory Board, which we started around the time of the Centennial, but more recently have really gotten more aggressive in terms of making sure that the middle school students out there are understanding the legacy that Brooklyn Tech has been building for over a hundred years, but even more recently, over the last 10 or 20.
00:32:57.030 --> 00:33:03.099 Frank R. Harrison: What do you think is, in your opinion, the reason for it being not so
00:33:03.660 --> 00:33:07.049 Frank R. Harrison: open that people have to discover it for themselves?
00:33:07.920 --> 00:33:14.670 David ipad: Well, you know, that's a great question. I think a lot. So I think that it's it's always multifactorial.
00:33:14.830 --> 00:33:35.360 David ipad: One is. I think, that when people think, you know, if you're in 7th 8th grade, you're not really worried that much about high school. I think that you have to have a very special person at the at the middle school that can really help point you in the right direction.
00:33:35.923 --> 00:33:49.659 David ipad: You know, I see that in the school. I actually volunteer at a at a magnet middle school. Here in Southern California. And you know, I see that you know they are very different, because they have a teacher
00:33:49.920 --> 00:33:55.430 David ipad: who just cares about the students and is always she does the extracurricular stuff.
00:33:56.710 --> 00:34:12.309 David ipad: and you know, I understand everyone's different. So don't mean to bad mouth any other teacher. But unless you have that person kind of driving you thinking about it in 7th and 8th grades, you're just not gonna think about it until it's too late.
00:34:12.530 --> 00:34:13.080 Frank R. Harrison: Right.
00:34:13.080 --> 00:34:21.817 David ipad: So so I think about a stem education. Sorry there's a helicopter. So I'm gonna just pause for a second. Okay,
00:34:22.650 --> 00:34:23.120 Frank R. Harrison: No problem.
00:34:23.310 --> 00:34:24.880 David ipad: Okay.
00:34:24.880 --> 00:34:26.710 Frank R. Harrison: Piece of technology in action.
00:34:26.719 --> 00:34:33.979 David ipad: That's right. So so I think of stem education as a relay race that basically never ends.
00:34:34.350 --> 00:34:35.020 Frank R. Harrison: I agree.
00:34:35.020 --> 00:34:49.790 David ipad: To be handed the baton. And and we're talking about the segment that is defined by 8th grade, 9th grade to 12th grade 1st year of college, and that handoff is critical as well, and so to be able to
00:34:49.850 --> 00:35:14.900 David ipad: to make even educators at the middle school aware of the opportunities at the specialized high school, whether it's Brooklyn Tech or Stuyvesant or Brock science, you know there, there are now 10 specialized science high schools, and I'm sure every one of them contributes greatly to this idea that we want to be a more educated society. But we need the principals, you know. I know that.
00:35:15.070 --> 00:35:21.260 David ipad: Oh, my gosh! I'm blanking on the name! Who's on our committee? Who's the principal at at the.
00:35:22.335 --> 00:35:24.189 Frank R. Harrison: I I know of the Middle School, Eric.
00:35:24.730 --> 00:35:25.810 David ipad: Henry. Yes.
00:35:25.810 --> 00:35:26.210 Frank R. Harrison: Yes.
00:35:27.550 --> 00:35:29.920 David ipad: You know, we need people like him.
00:35:30.507 --> 00:35:32.890 David ipad: And we need to find people like him
00:35:33.310 --> 00:35:39.070 David ipad: and give him all the tools he needs to help motivate the student.
00:35:39.310 --> 00:35:53.220 David ipad: But then the other part of the multifactorial is the parents right? So you know, I was fortunate that only my dad worked. My mom was stay at home. And so she, you know, we had a lot of attention at home. But today
00:35:53.480 --> 00:35:58.955 David ipad: there are a lot of multifamily, you know, multi families where there are, you know, multi
00:36:00.010 --> 00:36:19.910 David ipad: income people, you know, mom and dad right? And in fact, when I when I judge the Elementary School Science Fair projects. Here you can see the difference in the quality of the presentation. So that's why, when I talk to the student, I don't just grade them on the quality of the poster.
00:36:19.960 --> 00:36:43.270 David ipad: I grade them on their knowledge if they know what they're talking about. But the poster is not very good. It simply means that their parents are busy, but they are highly motivated, and they they need that extra attention. And so and so this future world vision that Matt Mandary and the rest of the team, who, you know, everyone who's involved is really doing a service that
00:36:44.230 --> 00:36:52.419 David ipad: we may not see the fruition, because these are kids that are 1011, 12, who will need to then go through the next
00:36:52.560 --> 00:37:08.000 David ipad: phase of the Marathon, then through the college, and and so on before they have. But but we're planting the seeds. And so that's really one of the advantages of again, one of the things that I think is unique to Brooklyn Tech. You know, high school is the fact that we're looking
00:37:08.180 --> 00:37:19.979 David ipad: in both directions. We're trying to educate the people we have and send them forward. We're also trying to drive the motivated students into the environment so that they get can get into this ecosystem.
00:37:20.400 --> 00:37:30.209 Frank R. Harrison: You know that David Lee, class of 78 was on the Alumni Advisory Board and got me also involved in the in the Gala Committee basically said to me, Think of Brooklyn Tech
00:37:30.640 --> 00:37:32.360 Frank R. Harrison: as pre-college.
00:37:32.940 --> 00:37:50.989 Frank R. Harrison: You know it has all the 5,000 students in there. That's what you would find at an undergraduate arts and Science college on average, you know. And then that was the only school back in the eighties that was offering a major in your junior year, which is what you usually do in college during your junior and senior years. You have a concentration
00:37:51.060 --> 00:38:13.889 Frank R. Harrison: right? So already I could see how the Math Science Institute was very simplistic at age 15. 0, well, I love math, so I'll do that. Not thinking of all the Ap. This and the physics, that, and all of the things that actually, I believe, helped fostered my epilepsy. I had my very 1st seizure junior year at Brooklyn Tech while staying up all night trying to take a study for calculus.
00:38:13.890 --> 00:38:14.475 David ipad: Boy.
00:38:15.060 --> 00:38:34.860 Frank R. Harrison: You know, so I don't know. Maybe it was a hidden gift, you know, because now I use my epilepsy as a foundation for trying to create healthcare awareness and advocacy. So there's always a reason for whatever you deal with. But I would say again, it just takes the understanding that the seeds that you say the seeds that were planted.
00:38:35.350 --> 00:38:47.460 Frank R. Harrison: I think everyone has to now learn like, especially when you're in that type of educational system, or even in college. If you're in an Ivy League Institution, Harvard, Yale, Princeton, Columbia, Cornell, whatever it is
00:38:48.070 --> 00:39:06.949 Frank R. Harrison: that you have to take ownership of what you're given, and not depend on the system to provide you the awareness, because people who remain I don't know what the right word would be, not passive, just unaware, probably just waiting for someone to point them on the shoulder. And this is what you need to look at.
00:39:07.150 --> 00:39:10.439 Frank R. Harrison: That's just a missed opportunity, you know.
00:39:10.440 --> 00:39:11.130 David ipad: That's right.
00:39:11.430 --> 00:39:29.150 Frank R. Harrison: I guess that's what engineering really is. It's using the brain which has its own trips and tracks and tools and techniques. And I mean? Who knows? Maybe one day a technical drawing class could actually draw the brain. You know, I know they have computers that do that today. But the thing is is that
00:39:29.600 --> 00:39:59.520 Frank R. Harrison: I think that Brooklyn Tech was a very deep secret in the eighties, and now it's been made aware of its viability, especially during times of chaos. But there's still, I guess, the you know the comparison. Is it a college, or is it just a high school? And I think, if anything. The secret definition for any of the upcoming students, the current students, or even the alumni, is to understand that if it is too large and kind of fragmented.
00:39:59.640 --> 00:40:24.059 Frank R. Harrison: It's allowing you to develop entrepreneurialism and self agency and self-advocacy. I think that is what makes anyone successful, no matter what school they go to. When you're aware of yourself first.st So I think that's probably one of the secret lessons that Matthew Mandary himself tries to foster in the Stem Committee, because, remember he is the only alumnus to actually be its principal.
00:40:24.060 --> 00:40:24.500 David ipad: That's right.
00:40:24.500 --> 00:40:27.030 Frank R. Harrison: Principals after him, but none of them are alumni from tech.
00:40:27.030 --> 00:40:28.699 David ipad: But that's right, you know.
00:40:28.700 --> 00:40:52.259 Frank R. Harrison: So sometimes it's that special, you know, real, inherent investment in the role that you have that can really show the truth to people who, if they're lucky enough to resonate it, can really manifest even better opportunities in their career. I know when I went to Msi. Or Math Science Institute I was only focused on Nyu. But it was that focus, that laser focus that got me there under scholarship.
00:40:52.260 --> 00:41:05.930 Frank R. Harrison: So if I had thought, Okay, you can focus on that, but also focus on the bigger picture at the same time. Then you could say, and what are you going to do with that scholarship? And what is the career that you're going to build?
00:41:06.190 --> 00:41:11.090 Frank R. Harrison: If I knew then what I know now, it would have been entrepreneurialism all the way. Yeah.
00:41:11.090 --> 00:41:23.149 David ipad: No, I agree, you know, Frank, and something else that I thought about, which is, you know, kind of funny. But you know, the students today have a real advantage over you and I. What part of the city did you grow up in.
00:41:23.360 --> 00:41:24.790 Frank R. Harrison: Here, New York, City, Manhattan.
00:41:24.790 --> 00:41:27.540 David ipad: The Manhattan. So how did you get to tech.
00:41:28.160 --> 00:41:29.040 Frank R. Harrison: By train.
00:41:30.035 --> 00:41:30.590 David ipad: So.
00:41:30.590 --> 00:41:32.023 Frank R. Harrison: And I had 0 period.
00:41:32.310 --> 00:41:51.710 David ipad: We're talking about the early eighties, when, if the subway station had a light bulb working, it was good, you know there was. It was graffiti everywhere. I took the R or the double r at the time. The world's slowest subway train. I had friends.
00:41:51.710 --> 00:41:52.830 Frank R. Harrison: You stationed.
00:41:52.830 --> 00:42:03.419 David ipad: Yes, Decalbot Avenue station. I had friends who took the G. The you know, the double G where it was dim, but that that just shows you that. You know, these are kids.
00:42:03.530 --> 00:42:06.350 David ipad: you know, who are really motivated, who really want to.
00:42:06.710 --> 00:42:21.750 David ipad: you know. Take advantage of the opportunity. You know. Of course I would much rather have the subway system as it is today. Back then, but you know, but I can't help but think that it's something that we took for granted that it's just the way it was back. Then.
00:42:22.060 --> 00:42:50.999 Frank R. Harrison: I guess if anything, it was like a lot of people did not have the foresight even in our in our local government at that time. I mean, you remember what Fort Green Park was? It was a haven for drug trafficking, which, thank God, is no longer the case. Now you can have a picnic lunch with people right there. And at the same time there's a lot of condominiums that have built in the area. And now people are dying when they can't get into Brooklyn Tech. Not dying, but they're crying, and and they've missed their golden opportunity. But
00:42:51.000 --> 00:43:01.120 Frank R. Harrison: that's the danger associating institutions as part of your self-worth, find your self-worth, and apply it to the best institution that fits you. I think that's the biggest lesson.
00:43:01.320 --> 00:43:01.640 David ipad: Yeah.
00:43:01.640 --> 00:43:17.509 Frank R. Harrison: We're in for our other break. I'm just going to give a few shout outs to some names of people I was going to mention more in detail during this segment. But it's about the legacy. Frank, about health could not have existed for almost 4 years now if it wasn't for the following, Brooklyn Tech alumni.
00:43:17.510 --> 00:43:37.470 Frank R. Harrison: the Honorable Tanya R. Kennedy, who's featured in my documentary that I promise, will see the light of day by the summer of this year simultaneously. She has been very instrumental in guiding me through difficulties in relation to my cousin, who's now in a nursing home. At the same time, if you remember, she and David Lee, along with my
00:43:37.470 --> 00:43:56.759 Frank R. Harrison: departed Ritha Gray, were on a show a couple years ago, celebrating Black History month when we talked about social justice in healthcare. Then there's Solange Pilizzota, who was on my class of 85 as well. She was in my prefect. It was their word for homeroom at the time, and she and I would talk about
00:43:56.760 --> 00:44:26.270 Frank R. Harrison: autism. We would talk about cardiac care, and we also talked about mental health and Ptsd. And then there was also Alex Yaroslavsky, class of 86, who appeared on Frank about health, to talk about how to use a limbic system to help regulate stress, actually to embrace stress as measures of the environments that you are in, especially in the workforce and try to regulate your stress. So you can have better negotiation skills.
00:44:26.280 --> 00:44:37.320 Frank R. Harrison: Either way. I learned from these people just like the way we all learn from each other when we are networking with the right mindset. But in order to understand what that mindset is.
00:44:37.480 --> 00:44:47.600 Frank R. Harrison: you have to develop your own sense of your mindset first, st and reflect out and versus being dependent on, because that's where you can end up making lots of mistakes.
00:44:47.790 --> 00:44:56.980 Frank R. Harrison: So that, again, are those 4 alumni are the ones David Lee was involved with Tanya Kennedy. So that's 5 alumni
00:44:57.720 --> 00:45:21.939 Frank R. Harrison: that have been on Frank about health, and as a result have helped me to build this show into a much bigger landscape, which you will hear about in the next segment. As both David and I explore Dr. Marshall Runji, another pioneer and another leader that has used all of his own independent thinking and medical knowledge and academic knowledge, as well as we've been trying to hint at with Brooklyn Tech
00:45:21.990 --> 00:45:41.260 Frank R. Harrison: to show all of you what the future can look like, regardless of the high school that you're in, plus. I'll also promote some of the events for this weekend's homecoming, since I can't attend. Maybe you can. All right, David. I think I've done all my promo for the moment. Now it's time for our break. All right, so we'll be back in a few stay, tuned.
00:47:18.200 --> 00:47:22.500 Frank R. Harrison: Hey, everybody. The theme of this last segment of this episode is
00:47:22.630 --> 00:47:26.229 Frank R. Harrison: disrupting health care and building tomorrow.
00:47:26.400 --> 00:47:30.169 Frank R. Harrison: because that's where I believe, like I said earlier to David.
00:47:30.280 --> 00:47:42.610 Frank R. Harrison: we have to be in charge of managing the chaos, especially when it comes to our healthcare and our quality of life, and I'm hoping that this podcast reflects that especially over the next few weeks.
00:47:42.740 --> 00:47:50.960 Frank R. Harrison: Now, that's my intention. Therefore, by illustrating that I've already given you an indication of the type of alumni that have already been on the show.
00:47:51.070 --> 00:48:09.879 Frank R. Harrison: and I also want to pay tribute to some of the other alumni that are leaders in healthcare. I don't have any knowledge of them personally or professionally, but this is what I found out that I guess if any of you out there who are listening and know these people. These are tech nights that should be recognized.
00:48:09.950 --> 00:48:22.170 Frank R. Harrison: One such person is Dr. Jeffrey, Canada, who's in charge of the Harlem Children's zone, doing what he can to help people who are living a difficult lifestyle in in poor communities
00:48:22.260 --> 00:48:37.160 Frank R. Harrison: and trying to get them adequate health care. Dr. Leon Mcdougall from Ohio State, Wexner Medical Center, Dr. Lynn Holden, who is involved in mentorship in Medicine. She's part of the Mount Sinai School of Medicine Icon School
00:48:37.370 --> 00:48:47.150 Frank R. Harrison: either way. There are people from Brooklyn Tech in healthcare. It's just a secret. Not many people have known that they've already known, like Lou Ferrigno, the Incredible hulk
00:48:47.170 --> 00:48:47.960 Frank R. Harrison: and I love
00:48:47.960 --> 00:49:14.889 Frank R. Harrison: is from Brooklyn Tech, or they know people who've walked on the moon or who invented the digital camera. But of course there is the Honorable Tanya Kennedy, who is always focused on health care, but mainly on social justice. You know. Either way, I'm inspired by our alumni class, and yet it took me 40 years to actually realize that. But yet, when there is chaos, that's when you realize what you have in front of you.
00:49:14.890 --> 00:49:23.949 David ipad: And and Frank, if I can add a couple of names, some of my closest friends. So my wife, Lydia works with autistic kids.
00:49:24.030 --> 00:49:47.919 David ipad: One of my closest friends is Dr. Hamel Nayak. He's a cardiologist in Chicago. I also think she's an adjunct professor at University of Texas. San Antonio. I think I know it's in Texas we have another friend, Johanna Wang, who is working as a geriatric nurse, I think, is her latest career.
00:49:47.920 --> 00:49:57.030 David ipad: So yeah, so there's a lot. And you know, most of these people started out at tech as a chemistry major, but have branched off into health care.
00:49:57.661 --> 00:50:14.528 David ipad: And I also have friends who started off at Tech, who became president of Stanley Tool, Asia Yachin hoy graphic artist, and actually a museum curator at the met. So yeah,
00:50:15.280 --> 00:50:22.499 David ipad: Kirill Mcfarlane so so had to throw in a couple of shout outs to.
00:50:22.500 --> 00:50:43.500 Frank R. Harrison: It's funny you said earlier, something very poignant that a lot of us sometimes bring into the healthcare space what else we were studying, I mean, I went into business school, got my finance and marketing background. I love psychology, but I loved it as a hobby. I decided to study neuropsychology because of epilepsy. I had no idea what I was going to do about it.
00:50:43.500 --> 00:50:47.840 Frank R. Harrison: Yeah, I ended up taking all of my toolkit and realizing.
00:50:47.930 --> 00:51:17.110 Frank R. Harrison: let me build my business in healthcare because my main driver, besides, psychology was marketing, you know. So I had a company called Medcash Community Action for social health. Meanwhile it's now my holding company for my new company I've created for Frank about health and all of my other media assets health, E-media. So I am coming from the business of healthcare. But, after all, the advocacy work I've had to do from my cousin, my father, even myself.
00:51:17.520 --> 00:51:27.540 Frank R. Harrison: A part of me, feels that I have to actually consider medical school, but only if they pay for it. I could afford it at this point in my life. But.
00:51:27.540 --> 00:51:27.870 David ipad: Yep.
00:51:27.870 --> 00:51:54.059 Frank R. Harrison: At the same time I noticed yesterday, I mean, I'm being very frank about this situation. You and I had this conversation earlier. I was with my father's doctor yesterday, and his Psa level went up, and my normal instinctive reaction is, oh, my God, what's happening? But thanks to Chat Gpt, I was able to see he's in. He's in due course, you know, so I would not have known that through any other channel other than my own research.
00:51:54.520 --> 00:51:54.979 David ipad: And you know.
00:51:54.980 --> 00:51:57.420 Frank R. Harrison: The biggest lesson I'm hoping everyone here picks up.
00:51:57.600 --> 00:52:02.930 David ipad: And you know, Frank, unfortunately, you know, we talk about the business of health care.
00:52:03.070 --> 00:52:14.689 David ipad: and I actually recommend to a lot of my colleagues and the new people going up through the healthcare industry to actually take classes in business, because, unfortunately.
00:52:14.860 --> 00:52:19.130 David ipad: the the economics of health care is a major driver.
00:52:19.130 --> 00:52:19.730 Frank R. Harrison: Correct.
00:52:19.730 --> 00:52:24.810 David ipad: One of the things that we think about, and I think Dr. Range will talk a lot more about it, because he's the
00:52:26.010 --> 00:52:49.430 David ipad: yes, but from my, you know, from a medical devices point of view, a lot of time. One of the things we ask is, who's going to pay for the test. What's the reimbursement if we do a test for disease? Z. Who's going to pay for it? Somehow that seems wrong. If people are suffering from the disease who pays for it
00:52:50.130 --> 00:53:04.970 David ipad: seems, you know, like it should not be as high up as a make or break decision, whether or not to to develop a new test. So and I think Dr. Range will talk more about the economics of health care. Yeah.
00:53:05.370 --> 00:53:14.190 Frank R. Harrison: Well, and I mean it's a perfect segue, because the the whole reason why he wasn't here today is because of budget cuts that are affecting his department.
00:53:14.420 --> 00:53:34.210 Frank R. Harrison: and we all know where that's coming from, but it will be renamed nameless, because this is not a political show. At the same time, he was saying. Now I even want to be on your show even more because it's important that I get the word out there on his upcoming book on May 5th May 6.th I'm sorry the great healthcare disruption.
00:53:34.340 --> 00:53:46.760 Frank R. Harrison: What we are seeing is not only disruption with technologies and vaccines and medicines, and and the actual technology that is operated in the healthcare system. But we're seeing disruption
00:53:46.870 --> 00:53:49.740 Frank R. Harrison: and chaos from our social system.
00:53:49.850 --> 00:53:53.350 Frank R. Harrison: And it's trying to make us take ownership
00:53:54.050 --> 00:54:17.420 Frank R. Harrison: over the whole thing during this transition, whether it's at the local level or the state level, or the system level, like, I always talk about Nyu Langone health. And that's because it is a conglomeration of business and some politics and high technology, and not to mention number one in neurological health and transplants and other kinds of things.
00:54:17.570 --> 00:54:21.310 Frank R. Harrison: But yet, in the case of my cousin, I then explored
00:54:21.420 --> 00:54:38.200 Frank R. Harrison: New York Presbyterian. They're very big on cardiac health. Alzheimer's care and research. Then I'm also noticing the Icon school of medicine at Mount Sinai. They were the ones to 1st issue the vaccines in New York City for covid-nineteen. So
00:54:38.310 --> 00:54:50.079 Frank R. Harrison: even hospital systems. I don't know if they get a bad rap because of ignorance or people not exploring it, but they just need to be able to provoke individuals to
00:54:50.320 --> 00:55:19.610 Frank R. Harrison: entrepreneurially seek their healthcare, and I think Dr. Ranji will definitely issue that book kind of as a manual to help guide us all in looking at how AI is going to be very instrumental across the board from the business to the diagnosis to the potential cures. And it's just I can't wait for him to be on the show. Everybody he will definitely be on next week, and then I think I'm going to give away the secret right now David and I will co-host him again
00:55:19.990 --> 00:55:25.079 Frank R. Harrison: on the 8, th where we will be promoting his book, which is on the streets that week.
00:55:25.300 --> 00:55:28.458 Frank R. Harrison: and it's gonna be a very powerful
00:55:29.810 --> 00:55:33.779 Frank R. Harrison: I would like to say interview, but it's going to be a very powerful campaign
00:55:33.900 --> 00:55:54.309 Frank R. Harrison: now. I see we are 2 min to ending. I want to pay tribute to one alumni that we lost from the class of 85. Her name is Mona Hassan Long Mona Long. She died last year, after a fundraising campaign to try to get her into Hospice, care for stomach cancer that eventually killed her
00:55:54.640 --> 00:56:07.990 Frank R. Harrison: after raising a lot of money for the treatment she needed, but it it was just too far gone, and I was hoping that during the 40th homecoming to pay a special tribute to her personally, but
00:56:08.020 --> 00:56:27.529 Frank R. Harrison: since I will not be there, I'm putting it out there right now. I also again want to pay tribute to Elizabeth Scabara. She was not an alumnus from Tech. But she defined text culture in many ways since the seventies, and these are powerful individuals in my life, as well as I guess, in David's life, as well.
00:56:27.530 --> 00:56:28.250 David ipad: Absolutely.
00:56:28.250 --> 00:56:40.560 Frank R. Harrison: That you would need to be inspired by the people you're with. You get to learn more about yourself, and then you really get the answers to your sometimes dark questions, especially when it comes to your health.
00:56:40.730 --> 00:56:57.559 Frank R. Harrison: And then I'm dedicating this show to my nephew, Colin Shear, who is entering his 3rd year at Brooklyn Technical High School in September. He has chosen the law and society major, and even though I don't have him here right now, or I'm not able to see him over the weekend.
00:56:57.710 --> 00:57:19.759 Frank R. Harrison: If he hears this, just know that I'm watching out for him so that he can take his skill set which I know is strong and make it as sharp as mine has become. Because Brooklyn Tech definitely has been the type of institution that incubates talent, whether it's in the stem fields, the health fields or basic engineering. I do believe that, do you have any closing thoughts before we
00:57:19.970 --> 00:57:20.670 Frank R. Harrison: we end.
00:57:21.360 --> 00:57:48.310 David ipad: Really just one. I feel like we would be remiss not to again acknowledge the role of Matt Mandery in all of this. So again. He really is Mr. Brooklyn Tech. He graduated, was the only principal, and has single handedly for many years driven the Alumni Association to what it's become now with our, you know, very large endowment
00:57:48.330 --> 00:57:52.060 David ipad: and all of these future, you know, looking programs.
00:57:52.110 --> 00:58:06.749 David ipad: I really think that we would be a different organization. The alumni organization would be in a completely different place without the visionary and the passion and the drive of this one person, Matt Mandery.
00:58:06.750 --> 00:58:22.700 David ipad: I think that one of the other thing that he's really been adept at is is bringing people along with him to train the next generation of of alumni leaders as in yourself, Denise, where? And you know many others who are
00:58:22.820 --> 00:58:35.889 David ipad: again, probably gonna mess up. But so I think you know I so I you know. So I think Matt deserves, you know, all, all of the accolades for really what he's what he's achieved.
00:58:36.110 --> 00:58:37.300 Frank R. Harrison: So exactly.
00:58:37.620 --> 00:58:56.060 Frank R. Harrison: I agree I was. I was hoping to actually present him with a 40th class award, but when I already cleared that up with Denise, who you mentioned. She said he was already a principal, the class of 84. Your class, so like 40 years, would not be the proper award he should have gotten that last year.
00:58:56.580 --> 00:58:56.930 Frank R. Harrison: I think.
00:58:56.930 --> 00:58:57.440 Frank R. Harrison: Don't worry.
00:58:57.440 --> 00:59:00.180 Frank R. Harrison: He was the 1st year that he was principal. Am I correct?
00:59:00.180 --> 00:59:17.469 David ipad: Yes, he was the 1st year, you know. I will maybe a little bit of controversy. I know we we're not supposed to get political. But you know New York is broken up into 2 groups. Are you a met Fan or a Yankee fan? I don't want to. You a Yankee fan, or a met fan.
00:59:17.630 --> 00:59:18.790 Frank R. Harrison: Oh, Yankees!
00:59:18.790 --> 00:59:20.970 David ipad: Oh, see, I'm a met fan, but.
00:59:20.970 --> 00:59:24.134 Frank R. Harrison: It's okay, because I was happy for them when they won in 86.
00:59:24.360 --> 00:59:33.370 David ipad: Right, but for the 40th anniversary last year I gave him a brook. I gave him a dodgers jersey so anyway.
00:59:33.780 --> 00:59:45.309 Frank R. Harrison: Yeah, I'm getting. I'm getting the clue that it's time to end everybody. Thanks for attending this episode of Frank about health. Stay tuned next week with Dr. Marshall Runji and Phyllis Quinlan. Also be aware.
00:59:45.860 --> 01:00:06.189 Frank R. Harrison: any of you out there that is looking to get to Brooklyn Tech? You've got Harvard University Medical Center, looking at Brooklyn Tech alumni, which is Mass general hospital. You've also got mit, which is actually engineering. You've got Cornell because of New York Presbyterian, while Cornell rather. And of course there's Nyu Langone.
01:00:06.190 --> 01:00:17.749 Frank R. Harrison: So that's my little collegiate play for everyone out there. Thank you. Everybody stay tuned for the next show on Talkradio dot Nyc. Thank you again, David, for being here. Thank you, Jesse. Behind the scenes for engineering.
01:00:17.750 --> 01:00:18.680 David ipad: Thank you, Tess.
01:00:18.680 --> 01:00:21.060 Frank R. Harrison: And we'll see you next week. Take care.
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