EPISODE SUMMARY:
During this time of uncertainty and disruption the audience will learn how to build mental resilience, understand the role that therapist can play in supporting you as well as explore the main challenges we are facing today.
With over 20 years of experience supporting individuals navigating depression, anxiety, PTSD, and chronic pain, Shervon Laurice is a Licensed Clinical Professional Counselor (LCPC), a Mindfulness-Based Psychedelic Therapist (MBPT), and certified Life Coach and Yoga Therapist, who guides her clients through transformational healing by helping them clear away the mental and emotional barriers that cloud their vision.
Shervon's work is about overcoming challenges and stepping into the clarity, confidence, and alignment that allows you to thrive. If you’re ready to explore a
new path to healing and transformation, this episode of Frank About Health is for you.
Website: http://restoretranquility.com
LinkedIn: http://linkedin.com/in/shervonlaurice
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In this episode of Frank About Health, host Frank R. Harrison explores the timely and essential topic of building mental resilience with therapist and mindfulness-based psychedelic practitioner Shervon Laurice. Shervon shares her holistic approach to therapy, integrating talk therapy, yoga, mindfulness, and psychedelic-assisted healing—all tailored to support the central nervous system and help clients recover from trauma, anxiety, and chronic stress. Together, they create an open space for healthcare advocates and providers to recognize alternative, whole-person strategies that are often overlooked in traditional media but are vital in today’s complex mental health landscape.
In this second segment of Frank About Health, Frank R. Harrison and therapist Shervon Laurice delve into the societal stressors shaping today’s mental health climate, emphasizing the 24/7 news cycle as a persistent trigger for anxiety and emotional overwhelm. Shervon stresses the importance of setting boundaries with media consumption and cultivating community-based support systems, including therapy, coaching, and trusted human connections, to maintain mental equilibrium. Rather than labeling toxic dynamics, she encourages tuning into one’s gut instinct to determine which relationships to nurture and which to limit, offering practical insights for those navigating emotional fragmentation in an era of collective uncertainty.
In this third segment of Frank About Health, Frank R. Harrison and Shervon Laurice explore actionable coping strategies to help individuals build mental resilience in the face of cultural chaos and personal stress. Shervon outlines holistic techniques such as breathwork, movement, nature immersion, journaling, and mindful connection with others or pets—all of which help regulate the central nervous system and reduce reactivity to external turmoil. She emphasizes that most people were never taught to self-regulate, making this chaotic era a powerful invitation to look inward, listen to the body, and learn sustainable practices for emotional and mental stability.
In the final segment of Frank About Health, Frank R. Harrison and Shervon Laurice explore the therapeutic power of cannabis and psychedelics like psilocybin as tools—not substitutes—for emotional healing and self-regulation. Shervon emphasizes the importance of intention, preparation, and integration in any psychedelic journey, sharing powerful case stories where clients overcame fear, depression, and emotional stagnation through guided, mindful use. The episode closes with a 360-degree framework for building mental resilience: learn to self-regulate, stay grounded in your body, and approach healing with awareness, community, and purpose.
00:00:53.290 --> 00:01:08.719 Frank R. Harrison: Hey, everybody, and welcome to a special episode of Frank about health. What makes it special? Well, today's guest is a therapist who has agreed to make this show into a group therapy session for all of us.
00:01:08.870 --> 00:01:23.279 Frank R. Harrison: Why? Because the episode title is very fitting for what we all need, and that is building mental resilience. We have a lot of chaos which I discussed last week with Phyllis and the week before, with Sam
00:01:23.280 --> 00:01:44.820 Frank R. Harrison: going on in the media about what's going on in our country, what's going on in our health care? What's going on in our communities, what's going on even in our own personal lives, especially in the areas of mental health and stress awareness, and even just trying to cope day to day to day. Well, I'm hoping, as I mentioned with Phyllis last week
00:01:44.840 --> 00:02:14.799 Frank R. Harrison: to make sure that I am as transparent about what tools are out there that are not being forthright, coming through the media as they were in the recent past, but that I can bring out with my weekly guest, and in this case Siobhan Laurice, who is an expert at helping people deal with multiple challenges, whether they are personal or professional or like. I said earlier in this case, what's going on in the chaos in our country these days.
00:02:14.930 --> 00:02:29.289 Frank R. Harrison: so that, all being said, I should issue a disclaimer. It is so that these are not the views of talkradio dot Nyc. Or are frank about health, but our mental health and all of the awareness issues that we are
00:02:29.370 --> 00:02:46.689 Frank R. Harrison: not being open about in traditional media need to be brought out. So they are pretty much the views of me and the guests that we will be communicating over the next hour. So for those of you listening on talkradio dot Nyc. Or viewing this on Linkedin Facebook
00:02:47.120 --> 00:02:52.400 Frank R. Harrison: Twitch or on Youtube, where we have all of our shows that we've done over the last.
00:02:52.810 --> 00:02:59.370 Frank R. Harrison: while 3 and a half years for Frank about health. I just wanted to point out that we hope that
00:02:59.430 --> 00:03:23.290 Frank R. Harrison: if you're listening or watching, you will ask questions throughout the hour. We're here to help answer any stress related questions that you are experiencing, no matter how personal or how how they are affecting you and your family? You know, because of the country and the changes going on. So we want to make sure that this is truly an interactive episode.
00:03:24.150 --> 00:03:28.029 Frank R. Harrison: Before I introduce Siobhan, I would like to indicate
00:03:28.170 --> 00:03:45.810 Frank R. Harrison: that building. Mental resilience is defined as the ability to adapt recover and thrive in the face of stress, trauma and adversity. It's not about avoiding these challenges, it is avoiding them and sticking your head in the sand that makes them worse.
00:03:45.950 --> 00:03:51.149 Frank R. Harrison: So, learning how to manage and grow from them is the goal of this episode.
00:03:51.360 --> 00:03:57.719 Frank R. Harrison: Some examples just to make everyone fully aware of what we're reaching out to. You may be looking at
00:03:57.870 --> 00:04:01.210 Frank R. Harrison: caregivers who go through burnout.
00:04:01.510 --> 00:04:07.080 Frank R. Harrison: I am a case in that. You may be looking at professional rebuilding. After a layoff.
00:04:07.240 --> 00:04:11.960 Frank R. Harrison: a lot of layoffs going on or career setbacks as a result.
00:04:12.440 --> 00:04:13.950 Frank R. Harrison: And then there's also
00:04:14.410 --> 00:04:25.179 Frank R. Harrison: coping and dealing with grief or chronic illness or personal loss while trying to maintain day-to-day stability. So those are the themes for the next hour.
00:04:26.000 --> 00:04:54.199 Frank R. Harrison: Now I have to read from the profile of our guest today, Siobhan Laurice, so we can explain what a professional she truly is, with over 20 years of experience, supporting individuals, navigating depression, anxiety, Ptsd and chronic pain. Siobhan Laurice is a licensed, clinical professional counselor a mindfulness based psychedelic therapist and certified life coach and Yoga therapist
00:04:54.290 --> 00:05:02.659 Frank R. Harrison: who guides her clients through transformational healing by helping them clear away the mental and emotional barriers that cloud their vision.
00:05:02.870 --> 00:05:03.810 Frank R. Harrison: So.
00:05:04.470 --> 00:05:12.839 Frank R. Harrison: Siobhan, I want you to uncloud my vision for the next hour. So by all means welcome to Frank about health, and
00:05:13.050 --> 00:05:28.219 Frank R. Harrison: take it away. Talk about exactly what you do, what you've done about your practice. Just give the audience out there, some of which, I gather, are your clients or patients, or however you've worked with them in the past. But just let people know who you are.
00:05:28.700 --> 00:05:48.449 Shervon Laurice: Yeah, thank you, Frank, and thanks for having me on your show. I really appreciate it. It's a joy to just chat with you. So as you noted that I am a licensed, clinical professional counselor. I am based in Maryland, just outside of Washington, DC.
00:05:48.740 --> 00:06:16.219 Shervon Laurice: And I have been doing this work even before I got my licensure. So I got interested in helping people in reference to mental health as a teenager I went to Forest Hills High school. I am a New Yorker, born and raised, went to Forest Hills High School, and there I worked with the Guidance counselor in the school as a peer counselor
00:06:16.320 --> 00:06:33.319 Shervon Laurice: and then down the street. Our community Center devised this training program for teenagers to do peer counseling, and we got paid for it. So here I was 1516, 17 years old.
00:06:33.400 --> 00:06:50.619 Shervon Laurice: learning how to work with people and to talk, using these talk therapy skills to talk them through whatever issues they were going on going through. And this was back in the eighties when, like the Aids, crisis had just
00:06:50.860 --> 00:07:12.500 Shervon Laurice: revealed itself. And so it's almost like I got the bug early. Then I go off to college and thought I was going to be a doctor, and somewhere in that second year I remembered what I enjoyed because I took a class that reminded me.
00:07:12.640 --> 00:07:15.829 Shervon Laurice: So I changed my major, and
00:07:16.140 --> 00:07:33.350 Shervon Laurice: by the time I got out of school I knew I wanted to get a degree in counseling, but I didn't know in which which school which program eventually I, after some years of working, found the right program, which was a pastoral counseling program.
00:07:33.870 --> 00:07:38.520 Shervon Laurice: And why I pastoral counseling? Yeah.
00:07:38.520 --> 00:07:39.160 Frank R. Harrison: Very nice.
00:07:39.160 --> 00:07:41.420 Shervon Laurice: Chose it, because
00:07:41.560 --> 00:07:55.190 Shervon Laurice: not only did it give me the mental health piece that I needed and wanted to be a counselor, but it acknowledged the fact that we are all spiritual beings.
00:07:55.500 --> 00:08:01.799 Shervon Laurice: right, even people who identify as atheists
00:08:02.760 --> 00:08:14.200 Shervon Laurice: a spirit about them right? They have a way of moving in the world and being in the world, and connecting to people in the world. And how can we, as therapists.
00:08:14.740 --> 00:08:37.830 Shervon Laurice: not acknowledge that? You know I was trained during a time where like that was tamped down, and we were just to talk about the mental stuff. And so I wanted to encompass the entire person, and so hence the degree that I got and then started working here in Maryland
00:08:38.470 --> 00:08:46.320 Shervon Laurice: shortly after opening my practice, though, I realized that talk therapy wasn't going to be enough
00:08:46.520 --> 00:08:56.780 Shervon Laurice: that when we're going through things our bodies show it, and the research has now showed it showed that when we are stressed
00:08:57.120 --> 00:09:11.920 Shervon Laurice: it resides in our bodies. It's not just a mental thing, right? When we are overwhelmed, it shows up in our body. When we have anxiety, it shows up in our physical form.
00:09:11.990 --> 00:09:29.059 Shervon Laurice: And so I went back and did the somatic training of Yoga therapy which I have loved, pairing, that in my talk therapy sessions with people and offering them other practices that are mindfulness based. Because
00:09:29.910 --> 00:09:34.119 Shervon Laurice: when we're talking about something that can be stressful.
00:09:34.460 --> 00:09:39.920 Shervon Laurice: Oftentimes people, for instance, for an example, they stop breathing.
00:09:40.450 --> 00:09:44.100 Shervon Laurice: If you ever really notice when you're super stressed
00:09:44.460 --> 00:09:48.589 Shervon Laurice: or anxious, your breath gets shortened.
00:09:48.590 --> 00:09:49.200 Frank R. Harrison: You panic.
00:09:49.200 --> 00:09:50.710 Shervon Laurice: Yes, you pants.
00:09:51.110 --> 00:09:51.490 Frank R. Harrison: Yeah.
00:09:51.490 --> 00:09:52.610 Shervon Laurice: Exactly.
00:09:52.750 --> 00:09:57.540 Frank R. Harrison: And that, then, has a negative effect on your central nervous system.
00:09:57.690 --> 00:10:15.319 Shervon Laurice: That is not about calm, and so I have taken such great joy in being able to teach people how to tune into their rhythm and pattern of their breathing, and to use their breath to get themselves back to equilibrium.
00:10:15.610 --> 00:10:16.170 Shervon Laurice: you know.
00:10:16.170 --> 00:10:19.389 Shervon Laurice: So it is that panting that could lead to panic attacks. Right?
00:10:19.390 --> 00:10:20.920 Shervon Laurice: Yeah, absolutely.
00:10:21.170 --> 00:10:36.910 Shervon Laurice: It absolutely does. And so that's 1 of the things. Also Yoga Nidra practices. I worked with a client some years ago who had Ptsd. But she had been fine for a really long time, and then one day she had a flashback.
00:10:38.040 --> 00:10:41.010 Shervon Laurice: and when she came to session she looked
00:10:41.350 --> 00:11:02.240 Shervon Laurice: starkly different than her normal self like. Think of a professional who goes to work every day. Their hair is coiffed. Just so. They're well dressed, you know. Makeup just right, so forth and so on. When she came to that session she looked the opposite of that, and I'd already been working with her for a little while she kind of looked stressed and disheveled.
00:11:02.850 --> 00:11:04.919 Shervon Laurice: so I asked her.
00:11:05.650 --> 00:11:12.519 Shervon Laurice: would you like to do a little bit of a shift in our sessions, instead of doing all this talking.
00:11:12.860 --> 00:11:20.869 Shervon Laurice: I can offer you a meditative practice that I just talk you through, and it allows your body to relax
00:11:21.100 --> 00:11:44.010 Shervon Laurice: so that you get into this space of what we like to call wakefulness and sleeping, and in that space you can access healing for your central nervous system. So she said, yes, and I kept, you know, by that point I had yoga mats in my office, and cushions and bolsters and pillows, so she got on the mat got really comfortable, and I talked her through this practice, and it's just 20 min.
00:11:44.510 --> 00:11:49.729 Shervon Laurice: and I gave her the recording to do each day for herself at home
00:11:50.530 --> 00:11:58.639 Shervon Laurice: and over about a 3 to 4 week period. Every time she would come to her session she looked more and more back to herself.
00:11:59.720 --> 00:12:09.779 Shervon Laurice: and instead of doing a medication change which she did not want to do something else that was more pharmaceutical oriented.
00:12:09.900 --> 00:12:21.490 Shervon Laurice: we did this, and it's called Yoga Nidra. And so that's that was my. That is my joy in reference to learning a somatic practice that can be paired with talk therapy.
00:12:21.940 --> 00:12:38.489 Shervon Laurice: And then, some years later I decided to get a training in mindfulness based psychedelic therapy starting predominantly with cannabis because most people don't realize cannabis can be used for healing
00:12:38.610 --> 00:12:41.809 Shervon Laurice: and as a psychedelic. And so
00:12:41.910 --> 00:13:08.379 Shervon Laurice: I stepped into that work almost 6 years ago now, and have found wonderful use with that for clients who are coming to have a different kind of healing. Usually people are looking to do a spiritual healing or to work out their depression, which happens that medication doesn't always help.
00:13:08.590 --> 00:13:17.329 Shervon Laurice: And then I've gone on to get the psilocybin training as well. So those are the 2 psychedelic modalities I work with. So it's been a fun ride.
00:13:17.330 --> 00:13:29.930 Frank R. Harrison: It sounds like it. It sounds like, I mean, we're about to take our 1st break. But it sounds like that, even though you went from the talk therapy to the Yoga therapy, to the mindfulness and the psychedelic healing
00:13:30.120 --> 00:13:34.400 Frank R. Harrison: your common thread through all of it was the central nervous system.
00:13:34.400 --> 00:13:36.210 Shervon Laurice: Yes, absolutely.
00:13:36.210 --> 00:13:48.560 Frank R. Harrison: I guess that's the secret most people don't communicate to the public at large, and everybody ends up spending loads of money and loads of time in just trying to solve the niche areas that are affecting them in the current moment.
00:13:48.730 --> 00:13:49.540 Shervon Laurice: Indeed.
00:13:49.890 --> 00:14:05.230 Frank R. Harrison: So you take it on a more holistic level. By focusing on the Cns and based on your individual patients, you'll know which is the right modality, whether it is the talk, the yoga, the mindfulness or cannabis, for example.
00:14:05.230 --> 00:14:08.680 Shervon Laurice: Exactly exactly. And that's and that's really
00:14:09.220 --> 00:14:16.810 Shervon Laurice: how it has to happen. You have to be able to talk with someone and meet with someone to know what it is they actually need.
00:14:17.660 --> 00:14:36.139 Frank R. Harrison: Well, you heard it there. Everyone who's listening, please, when we come back in our next segment, start asking away questions related to what you just heard about Siobhan and her practice, and her experience with treating different types of people that have had Ptsd or depression, or other kinds of stress related disorders.
00:14:36.140 --> 00:15:03.879 Frank R. Harrison: I could say that I've tried cannabis for epilepsy which everyone out there knows that I am your resident epileptic on the network. However, I've been seizure free for 25 years. So I don't actually see the need for cannabis anymore. I tried it, and it didn't actually work for me. It helped me gain about 40 pounds, and that is pretty much another illness that was waiting in the wing, so I decided that I'll stick with the medication that keeps me sedate for all this time, but maybe.
00:15:03.880 --> 00:15:04.590 Shervon Laurice: Yeah.
00:15:04.800 --> 00:15:07.720 Frank R. Harrison: Engage with everyone like on this show, so that we can really.
00:15:07.720 --> 00:15:08.380 Shervon Laurice: Exactly.
00:15:08.380 --> 00:15:10.069 Frank R. Harrison: What is ailing you. So
00:15:10.200 --> 00:15:33.579 Frank R. Harrison: everybody, when we return right here on this episode of Frank about health, and we continue to work together to build mental resilience. Please get your questions ready, whether you're on Youtube, Linkedin, Facebook or Twitch, and we'll be here to answer them, as we also continue to discuss more about what's going on in our society in segment. 2. And then what's going on with each of us in segment? 3. We'll be back in a few stay, tuned.
00:17:15.990 --> 00:17:43.510 Frank R. Harrison: Hey, everybody, and welcome back. So now I wanted to dedicate segment 2 to the current challenges that we are all facing today. But let's start from the top down. The biggest challenge that we face is that we are living in an age with constant chaos and confusion that we hear each day in the media, in whatever is happening in our relative States or in our Federal government. Now, I guess
00:17:43.700 --> 00:17:55.510 Frank R. Harrison: I'm going to turn it over to you, Siobhan, what would you say? Are the broader societal or political stressors that are really affecting all of us? Even if it's not directly targeting us.
00:17:56.180 --> 00:17:56.810 Shervon Laurice: Hmm!
00:17:58.230 --> 00:17:59.919 Shervon Laurice: I think it's the chaos.
00:18:01.290 --> 00:18:30.820 Shervon Laurice: I think it's that idea of moving fast and breaking things, so to speak, that is unsettling for the vast majority of people that I talk to on a daily basis like it's this idea of every day when people wake up and they check in with the news sources that they use. They're finding out something major in their lives. Something that they thought was stable
00:18:31.600 --> 00:18:36.309 Shervon Laurice: has changed or has been gotten rid of.
00:18:37.180 --> 00:18:39.870 Frank R. Harrison: Or is being tinkered with.
00:18:40.700 --> 00:18:41.110 Frank R. Harrison: Yes.
00:18:41.110 --> 00:18:57.179 Shervon Laurice: You know, and that level of uncertainty causes spikes in people's anxiety causes people to who are already maybe prone to feeling depressed, to feel more of that sense of depression.
00:18:57.340 --> 00:19:01.630 Shervon Laurice: So that's what we're seeing. It's this. It's this chaos and uncertainty
00:19:01.780 --> 00:19:05.849 Shervon Laurice: that people are really, I think, surprised about right now.
00:19:06.650 --> 00:19:15.120 Frank R. Harrison: Now, would you say it's predominantly triggered by the media itself? Or is it just when you go outside you can feel it. What would you say you've noticed.
00:19:15.690 --> 00:19:27.940 Shervon Laurice: I think. Mostly it's triggered by the media in the sense that it's this 24 h news cycle that we now live under.
00:19:28.180 --> 00:19:28.530 Frank R. Harrison: Right.
00:19:28.530 --> 00:19:35.709 Shervon Laurice: And they continue to repeat the bad news, because let's face it. Bad news is what sells.
00:19:35.960 --> 00:19:41.620 Frank R. Harrison: Right. It's not good news. We actually have to do our due diligence.
00:19:41.770 --> 00:19:47.020 Shervon Laurice: Through social media and the media in general to find good news
00:19:47.890 --> 00:19:56.349 Shervon Laurice: right. But you can tune into any news source or social media and find the bad news very easily.
00:19:56.780 --> 00:20:01.560 Shervon Laurice: Yeah. And so some of it is that. And people
00:20:02.050 --> 00:20:11.089 Shervon Laurice: making the choice to engage with the news cycles multiple times a day. So it's like if you had a wound.
00:20:11.690 --> 00:20:17.469 Shervon Laurice: Say, you've just had a sore on your arm, but someone kept poking it.
00:20:18.530 --> 00:20:19.410 Frank R. Harrison: Picking at the sketch.
00:20:19.410 --> 00:20:36.470 Shervon Laurice: Right. Just keep poking at it right, and the beginning doesn't hurt very much, but after they've poked it for a few minutes it starts to hurt, it might start to bleed right. And that's what I like in the constant
00:20:37.100 --> 00:20:44.050 Shervon Laurice: checking in with the news to be. It's this constant poking at a sore point
00:20:44.460 --> 00:20:50.999 Shervon Laurice: for us. And so when I'm working with my clients, and it's interesting because I don't watch the news
00:20:51.010 --> 00:21:20.149 Shervon Laurice: I have chosen years ago to stop watching the news and to stop listening to the news, and when I do hear something that I want to know more about, then I'll go and pull up an article and read that. But I do not engage with the news for long periods of time anymore. When I was going through my Yoga training, and I'm also a student of Yoga Tantra, my teacher. One day I
00:21:20.150 --> 00:21:29.620 Shervon Laurice: logged in with him, and he was like, Hi, how are you? And I was, you know, talking about all the horrible things that were going on in the world. This is years ago. This is not even current right?
00:21:30.040 --> 00:21:36.129 Shervon Laurice: And why do you engage with the news before you've even had breakfast?
00:21:36.430 --> 00:21:37.110 Frank R. Harrison: Yeah.
00:21:37.360 --> 00:21:38.149 Shervon Laurice: I was like.
00:21:39.930 --> 00:21:46.990 Shervon Laurice: It's a very good point. It just floored me. I was like, it's a very valid point.
00:21:46.990 --> 00:21:51.338 Frank R. Harrison: I mean, I've heard you need food in the morning, but not food for thought. Right.
00:21:51.610 --> 00:22:06.879 Shervon Laurice: Not that kind of food for thought, at least exactly exactly. So. Yeah, so it's this constant drip of the news. The 24 h news cycle. But even going out I can go to the grocery store. Listen to people in line.
00:22:07.010 --> 00:22:09.370 Shervon Laurice: You can hear their conversation.
00:22:10.170 --> 00:22:20.350 Shervon Laurice: When I log in with a client, or they sit down in my chair for an in person session. It always comes up. Sometimes it's the session starts with.
00:22:20.660 --> 00:22:23.209 Shervon Laurice: Did you hear what happened today.
00:22:25.840 --> 00:22:26.849 Shervon Laurice: Oh, my God!
00:22:26.850 --> 00:22:33.138 Shervon Laurice: And so I literally don't have to watch the news, because everyone around me keeps me up to date.
00:22:34.050 --> 00:22:41.780 Frank R. Harrison: So then, people who are already prone to things like stress and depression and anxieties, or if they have Ptsd, for example.
00:22:42.320 --> 00:22:56.670 Frank R. Harrison: the the culture that we're in is just amplifying what's already going through you, whether it's subconsciously or unconsciously. Yes, if you're speaking to a family member or a close friend, and they look more hyped
00:22:56.860 --> 00:23:07.209 Frank R. Harrison: for the same problem that they've been dealing with. You can then make the natural assumption that it's what's going on in our culture right now. That is just amplifying everybody even more.
00:23:07.550 --> 00:23:14.109 Shervon Laurice: It is, it is. It does seem that people are more anxious.
00:23:14.470 --> 00:23:21.840 Shervon Laurice: It's not quite to the anxiety that I saw when Covid hit, but it's close.
00:23:22.320 --> 00:23:23.470 Shervon Laurice: It's close.
00:23:23.750 --> 00:23:24.560 Shervon Laurice: Wow.
00:23:25.080 --> 00:23:34.479 Frank R. Harrison: And it also makes you lose sense of time because our current president has only been in office for 3 months. It feels like already almost 6 to 8 months.
00:23:34.870 --> 00:23:38.549 Shervon Laurice: Yeah, it does. It really does.
00:23:38.880 --> 00:23:39.840 Frank R. Harrison: Incredible.
00:23:39.840 --> 00:23:40.510 Shervon Laurice: All right.
00:23:40.510 --> 00:23:48.730 Frank R. Harrison: So either way, then, is it safe to say that, especially when you want to build resilience, or just maintain your mental health.
00:23:48.850 --> 00:23:54.909 Frank R. Harrison: when knowing that everything is amplified because of who's running our culture at this point
00:23:55.690 --> 00:23:58.819 Frank R. Harrison: you don't want to stick your head in the sand. But how do you
00:23:58.950 --> 00:24:04.450 Frank R. Harrison: create the proper boundaries and create the insulation that you need.
00:24:04.610 --> 00:24:05.280 Shervon Laurice: To think.
00:24:05.280 --> 00:24:14.660 Frank R. Harrison: Clearly, I will admit I've actually started relying on Chatgpt to be my personal advisor. But it's still their missing human component.
00:24:14.770 --> 00:24:40.719 Frank R. Harrison: you know, and while I have not at all shied away from using therapists, and I've had many. But there's 1 particular therapist I use today that has been very helpful in dealing with grief and other kinds of things that I've experienced recently. However, it doesn't appear to be a long-term relationship. I'm really thinking that you know obviously what you do, as also a coach, I gather, is the kind of thing that individuals should be seeking.
00:24:41.730 --> 00:24:59.284 Shervon Laurice: Yeah, I mean, therapy therapy is definitely an option coaches, especially mindset coaches, mindfulness based coaches. I think wellness coaches, all are great options.
00:25:00.190 --> 00:25:03.630 Shervon Laurice: I think also building community
00:25:04.440 --> 00:25:09.720 Shervon Laurice: that is going to be the key thing that I believe that's going to get us all through it.
00:25:09.950 --> 00:25:34.810 Shervon Laurice: you know if, because, you know not, everybody can afford to hire a coach. Not everyone can afford to hire a therapist, though in some states like so in the state that I'm in. There is pro bono counseling, you know, and so many states do have something to that nature. But if you can't get a therapist or a coach? Who are the people in your life that you trust?
00:25:35.590 --> 00:25:37.460 Shervon Laurice: Who.
00:25:37.460 --> 00:25:45.310 Frank R. Harrison: And that's part of the problem. You may have learned through your traumas not to have the full efficacy of trust anymore.
00:25:45.310 --> 00:25:46.469 Shervon Laurice: That's fair.
00:25:46.470 --> 00:25:47.570 Frank R. Harrison: So that is true.
00:25:47.570 --> 00:25:53.621 Frank R. Harrison: almost like a like, not not a veteran. That would be the wrong word here. But you become kind of like
00:25:54.030 --> 00:25:57.729 Frank R. Harrison: emotionally disabled. Would that be the right word or.
00:25:57.730 --> 00:25:59.070 Shervon Laurice: That's a way to put it.
00:25:59.280 --> 00:26:02.020 Frank R. Harrison: You know or fragmented, you become fragmented.
00:26:02.020 --> 00:26:02.719 Shervon Laurice: Even better.
00:26:02.720 --> 00:26:07.139 Frank R. Harrison: Have to pick and choose and weigh the pros and cons of every decision you need to make.
00:26:07.500 --> 00:26:09.880 Shervon Laurice: Yeah, and who you allow in your life.
00:26:10.980 --> 00:26:36.050 Frank R. Harrison: And I've experienced that especially recently over the last 4 months. And so, while I've had the support of Talkradio, Dot, Nyc. To come back and do the show. I'm in therapeutic mode at this point, I mean, I was riding on an upward trajectory that got shot down and the country shifted its leadership. But I'm not saying that it's totally gone, but it has to be re-pivoted. It has to be redirected.
00:26:36.270 --> 00:26:37.380 Frank R. Harrison: and therefore I.
00:26:37.380 --> 00:26:37.790 Shervon Laurice: Is there.
00:26:37.790 --> 00:26:38.980 Frank R. Harrison: Need for a coach.
00:26:39.000 --> 00:26:42.410 Shervon Laurice: That is the piece that's the
00:26:42.740 --> 00:26:47.369 Shervon Laurice: not stopping. It is the not giving up
00:26:47.970 --> 00:26:57.139 Shervon Laurice: in the face of this larger, countrywide, almost global, wide shift that we're living under right? It's like.
00:26:57.430 --> 00:27:05.100 Shervon Laurice: yes, maybe you want therapy. Yes, maybe you want a coach to help you with your mindset. But
00:27:06.060 --> 00:27:09.820 Shervon Laurice: even if they are not close family members.
00:27:10.130 --> 00:27:16.399 Shervon Laurice: large friend groups. There's someone in almost all of our lives
00:27:16.580 --> 00:27:22.290 Shervon Laurice: that we can connect with at some level human connection.
00:27:23.190 --> 00:27:37.809 Shervon Laurice: Is really the key that is really going to get us, I think, through this time it is what helped for a lot of people during the pandemic right? We were all separated physically, but we all figured out ways
00:27:38.080 --> 00:27:40.810 Shervon Laurice: to connect digitally.
00:27:41.540 --> 00:27:42.000 Frank R. Harrison: That's right.
00:27:42.000 --> 00:27:51.349 Shervon Laurice: Right and by phone. And some people started writing again, writing letters and emails and so forth to one another.
00:27:51.490 --> 00:27:55.060 Shervon Laurice: so that we could feel that level of connection.
00:27:55.720 --> 00:27:58.150 Frank R. Harrison: And I think that's what we need now.
00:27:58.590 --> 00:28:05.679 Frank R. Harrison: So would you say that the chaos that has been fracturing the connection for people in our current environment
00:28:06.020 --> 00:28:11.290 Frank R. Harrison: is all based out of a particular pathology. I mean, I have learned to label it.
00:28:11.570 --> 00:28:23.299 Frank R. Harrison: which is not always a safe bet, but it does help me keep a certain level of focus as all part of being in a narcissistic paradigm. But that's just my experience. I don't know if
00:28:24.180 --> 00:28:30.900 Frank R. Harrison: is the key fundamental trigger in all of this chaos, I mean, in order to gain human connection.
00:28:31.250 --> 00:28:36.599 Frank R. Harrison: Using my theory of narcissism, you have to scope out who are the narcissists to avoid.
00:28:37.070 --> 00:28:37.610 Shervon Laurice: Yeah.
00:28:37.610 --> 00:28:43.499 Frank R. Harrison: That's not. I don't think it's always productive. It makes you restricted and and selective.
00:28:43.890 --> 00:28:47.400 Frank R. Harrison: on which family members you can trust, which friends you can trust
00:28:47.560 --> 00:29:04.779 Frank R. Harrison: your history of knowing people over 30, 40, 50 years, whatever that may be, and then determining, oh, can't deal with them anymore, that still sabotages you while you're trying to connect to people. So if it isn't narcissism which has been my theory and approach towards.
00:29:04.780 --> 00:29:05.500 Shervon Laurice: Booming.
00:29:05.720 --> 00:29:09.529 Frank R. Harrison: What would you say is a better way to look at it in terms of.
00:29:10.000 --> 00:29:13.579 Frank R. Harrison: Dealing with the people that you know are only there to
00:29:13.720 --> 00:29:18.730 Frank R. Harrison: limit your connection, while at the same time you can still connect, you know.
00:29:18.730 --> 00:29:19.550 Shervon Laurice: Yeah.
00:29:20.830 --> 00:29:34.370 Shervon Laurice: I don't even necessarily put labels like narcissism out there I go with. And this is what I've often suggested to people is, how do you feel when you're in the presence of that person
00:29:35.840 --> 00:29:41.710 Shervon Laurice: listening to your guts? Yup! How do you feel when you're engaging with
00:29:42.210 --> 00:29:45.479 Shervon Laurice: person? We all have gut instincts that
00:29:46.180 --> 00:29:50.219 Shervon Laurice: a lot of us have been talked out of listening to.
00:29:50.530 --> 00:29:53.929 Shervon Laurice: But it is our 6th sense.
00:29:54.360 --> 00:30:10.990 Shervon Laurice: It is the spidey sense, as we, those of us who were, you know, into comic when we were younger. It is so important if it feels like when you engage with certain people in your life or certain people in your environment
00:30:12.020 --> 00:30:19.810 Shervon Laurice: that it feels stressful, overwhelming. Oh, like your energy is being sucked out of you.
00:30:20.190 --> 00:30:35.529 Shervon Laurice: Those are the people you need to limit hanging out with. You may not be able to cut them off completely, and you may not choose to cut them off completely, but you can limit how you, how much you engage with them.
00:30:35.630 --> 00:30:43.710 Shervon Laurice: and how deeply you engage with them, you know. Do you have to talk to them every single week.
00:30:43.990 --> 00:30:48.880 Shervon Laurice: or do you have to go to an event where you know there will be
00:30:49.990 --> 00:31:04.609 Shervon Laurice: right? You can make choices about the amount of time that you spend with people. And some people do have the luxury of being able to cut off connections with people that they don't vibe with. And that's okay, too.
00:31:05.690 --> 00:31:07.249 Shervon Laurice: Wow, you have definitely.
00:31:07.250 --> 00:31:21.080 Frank R. Harrison: Started the introduction into our 3rd segment, and we're about to take our second break. So, ladies and gentlemen, what questions do you have? We like to hear them in the next segment. So if you're on Youtube, Linkedin Twitch or Facebook.
00:31:21.110 --> 00:31:39.820 Frank R. Harrison: please, and enter them into the the chat bot or not the chat, bot, the chat box, or or the question link that you may have, and our engineer will scope the questions, and we're here to answer them live for you as we work together to build
00:31:39.870 --> 00:31:44.460 Frank R. Harrison: mental resilience. So please stay tuned for segment. 3. We'll be back in a few.
00:33:15.670 --> 00:33:22.689 Frank R. Harrison: Everybody and welcome back. You just heard in the last Segment about how we are all going through a cultural shift
00:33:22.850 --> 00:33:36.440 Frank R. Harrison: since the beginning of the year, and it has definitely triggered many people for various reasons, depending on what their personal circumstances have been based on in terms of their stress levels, depression, anxiety, so forth and so on.
00:33:37.520 --> 00:33:47.230 Frank R. Harrison: in building resilience, we need to learn individual coping strategies. I mentioned earlier that for me it was labeling, based on my knowledge of
00:33:47.240 --> 00:34:08.979 Frank R. Harrison: certain personality disorders that's not always effective. I also have learned to rely on Chat Gpt to be my my personal coach, but it lacks the human element simultaneously. What you heard from Siobhan is that we are all seeking connection, and usually, when you do have a connection with either the stressor or stressing event.
00:34:09.010 --> 00:34:14.119 Frank R. Harrison: Sometimes you feel calm because you're dealing with it. It's like living in the now versus avoiding it.
00:34:14.120 --> 00:34:14.560 Shervon Laurice: Thank you.
00:34:14.560 --> 00:34:16.900 Frank R. Harrison: Or dreading it, if it's a future event.
00:34:17.010 --> 00:34:20.859 Frank R. Harrison: So those are some coping strategies.
00:34:20.920 --> 00:34:47.679 Frank R. Harrison: but depending on the individual may not be totally effective. That's why, Siobhan, I turn this segment to you totally to get an understanding like, what kind of coping strategies have you dealt with your clients or your patients so like, what have you been able to train them on in depending upon, like the woman with the Ptsd. You mentioned that you went from talk to Yoga. But is there other kinds of coping strategies or techniques that you
00:34:47.739 --> 00:34:50.989 Frank R. Harrison: train them in, or you try to engage them with.
00:34:51.790 --> 00:35:01.519 Shervon Laurice: Yeah, so breath work is key be going back to this whole central nervous system piece, because so many people are
00:35:01.860 --> 00:35:04.319 Shervon Laurice: with this cultural shift.
00:35:04.940 --> 00:35:19.290 Shervon Laurice: feeling the anxiety, feeling, the chaos and uncertainty. Some people have slid into depression or are sliding into depression, others are feeling stuck.
00:35:20.170 --> 00:35:31.860 Shervon Laurice: others are feeling a little bit more. I heard this from someone recently, because the President
00:35:32.590 --> 00:35:35.500 Shervon Laurice: and the decisions that are being made
00:35:35.640 --> 00:35:42.529 Shervon Laurice: feel very much like a traumatic experience they've had in their own lives, that it.
00:35:42.530 --> 00:35:42.880 Frank R. Harrison: By another.
00:35:42.880 --> 00:35:56.939 Shervon Laurice: Triggering, you know. It almost brings up like Ptsd kind of response in their bodies because of the controlling chaos that's going on all around.
00:35:57.480 --> 00:36:12.330 Shervon Laurice: And so our central nervous systems, when we're in chaos and instability, the kind that we're seeing especially that we have no control over none whatsoever, right?
00:36:12.590 --> 00:36:20.009 Shervon Laurice: So many people here in my area have lost their jobs. A friend of mine today texted me that he lost his job
00:36:20.140 --> 00:36:33.219 Shervon Laurice: right now he saw it coming, and so he got out ahead of it and started looking. And so he's already landed something else. But that feeling of your job is going to be taken away from you
00:36:33.510 --> 00:36:38.059 Shervon Laurice: through no fault of your own. You haven't done anything wrong.
00:36:38.480 --> 00:36:45.609 Shervon Laurice: So that's that instability. And it causes stress. And of course it attacks your central nervous system
00:36:46.260 --> 00:37:15.099 Shervon Laurice: and so breath practice right? I teach people how to tune into their breathing so that they don't get into higher levels of anxiety, and cause themselves to have panic attacks, you know, or hyperventilation if they get too far down the road with it. I teach people to unplug from the news and go outside.
00:37:15.420 --> 00:37:24.220 Shervon Laurice: There is something about nature itself that is a benefit to us, to our central nervous system.
00:37:24.550 --> 00:37:40.390 Shervon Laurice: So even if it's just going for a walk in your neighborhood. That lasts 20 min. I tell people go do that. It also changes what you're thinking about right? Because now you're in a different environment than where you were
00:37:40.670 --> 00:37:42.460 Shervon Laurice: engaging with the news.
00:37:42.620 --> 00:37:49.689 Shervon Laurice: right? So telling people to get out and do that, engaging with other other humans and then movement
00:37:49.800 --> 00:37:56.545 Shervon Laurice: like physical movement, so going for the walk, but going for the walk outside is even better. But
00:37:57.400 --> 00:38:15.830 Shervon Laurice: to engage in a Yoga practice, people think of that here in the States as oh, that's exercise! No, that's recalibrating or rebalancing your central nervous system. When we move and move with the breath and intention, we
00:38:16.260 --> 00:38:20.519 Shervon Laurice: are able to release pent up energy in our body.
00:38:20.700 --> 00:38:37.490 Shervon Laurice: So some people are not into Yoga. They can go for a run if they're into running if they're into hiking whatever movement of your body speaks most to you. I always recommend people engage in that.
00:38:37.640 --> 00:38:54.539 Shervon Laurice: Journaling is another way to allow your brain to dump whatever it is right, and journaling is great because you don't have to be. It doesn't have to have punctuation. It doesn't have to make sense it could be the longest run on sentence.
00:38:55.060 --> 00:39:04.980 Shervon Laurice: There's nobody grading you on that. And so I encourage people to just journal free. Write, get it out.
00:39:05.130 --> 00:39:21.530 Shervon Laurice: you know, there's a practice that I love when people have something that they really need to get off their chest, and maybe it's to someone it may not be, but you just need to get it out. You get it out on paper, you ball it up.
00:39:21.770 --> 00:39:28.170 Shervon Laurice: you get a metal bowl, you light it on fire and you let it burn. It's this kind of releasing
00:39:28.980 --> 00:39:37.480 Shervon Laurice: of that energy in particular, you know. Having a pet is huge.
00:39:38.660 --> 00:39:44.560 Shervon Laurice: having a pet having a cat, a dog, whatever, some other being
00:39:44.690 --> 00:40:06.869 Shervon Laurice: that you can hang out with, because they don't get any of this chaos right? They are just themselves, and it kind of snaps you out of whatever thought process that you might be in to have to go walk the dog right, or you have a cat who needs your attention. So these are the things that I talk with
00:40:07.030 --> 00:40:21.209 Shervon Laurice: clients about, so that they know that they have more control over regulating their emotions, their central nervous system, their energy, than they initially think.
00:40:21.990 --> 00:40:40.560 Frank R. Harrison: What I'm picking up is that if people learn how to manage predominantly their central nervous system, they get rid of the dependency on labels like I mentioned, or projections onto what's bothering them. They're just controlling internally their system that when they see the chaos, if it's regulated.
00:40:41.120 --> 00:40:45.859 Frank R. Harrison: they'll react as okay, that's the news for the day is, is that a correct assumption.
00:40:45.860 --> 00:40:57.210 Shervon Laurice: That is a correct assumption. It brings it down several notches. Not that the news will be any less shocking, but it will affect you less.
00:40:58.560 --> 00:41:04.090 Frank R. Harrison: So, then, is it safe to say that the reason why that
00:41:04.240 --> 00:41:10.159 Frank R. Harrison: this individual was elected is because everybody was already in that in that state of fragmentation.
00:41:10.160 --> 00:41:10.730 Frank R. Harrison: Wow!
00:41:10.730 --> 00:41:11.590 Frank R. Harrison: They call it.
00:41:12.530 --> 00:41:13.950 Shervon Laurice: You know what.
00:41:13.950 --> 00:41:17.659 Frank R. Harrison: And and making a dependent choice rather than an independent choice.
00:41:17.890 --> 00:41:24.449 Shervon Laurice: That could be that very well could be, we don't know but that very well could be.
00:41:24.970 --> 00:41:50.970 Frank R. Harrison: What would you say is the basis for a lot of people or individuals just not having self-regulation? Is it technology? Is it dependency? What has been a core through line, especially since the pandemic began in 2020, I mean, literally, we were all with the same problem which actually built community almost instantaneously. But then, when we were all freed up again.
00:41:51.030 --> 00:41:55.919 Frank R. Harrison: everybody went off on their own kind of like with their own.
00:41:56.040 --> 00:41:59.739 Frank R. Harrison: their own direction not fully thought out of. So
00:41:59.970 --> 00:42:06.889 Frank R. Harrison: is it chaos that keeps us together? Or is it just lack of something stable keeping us together?
00:42:07.790 --> 00:42:10.600 Frank R. Harrison: I'm coming up with a philosophical interpretation, more than any.
00:42:10.600 --> 00:42:15.560 Shervon Laurice: Right right it could be either of those, I think, though
00:42:16.740 --> 00:42:20.030 Shervon Laurice: we are not taught to self regulate.
00:42:21.410 --> 00:42:26.280 Frank R. Harrison: Even as children, we are not really taught to self-regulate.
00:42:27.110 --> 00:42:31.030 Shervon Laurice: Very few people have that skill.
00:42:31.650 --> 00:42:36.250 Shervon Laurice: and therefore we look to our environment
00:42:36.370 --> 00:42:49.930 Shervon Laurice: to help us regulate. That's why, as this new culture we're living under continues to roll out. It has the effect on people that it has, because
00:42:49.930 --> 00:42:50.660 Shervon Laurice: interesting
00:42:50.660 --> 00:43:03.949 Shervon Laurice: chaos, therefore, it affects our central nervous system, and if people don't know how to self regulate. It's going to affect them negatively, because I've actually had hard conversations with people
00:43:04.120 --> 00:43:14.680 Shervon Laurice: when they say, but this is happening. And this is happening, and this is happening. And you know they're so riled up. And then I pause when they pause. Rather, I will say something like
00:43:15.250 --> 00:43:21.569 Shervon Laurice: how much of what's going on right now affects your life personally.
00:43:24.400 --> 00:43:25.770 Shervon Laurice: They pause.
00:43:25.950 --> 00:43:27.009 Frank R. Harrison: That makes him look in.
00:43:27.330 --> 00:43:36.420 Shervon Laurice: Yeah, and I go. Well, it doesn't affect my life personally, and I'm like, right now it's
00:43:36.880 --> 00:43:39.819 Shervon Laurice: good to be aware of what's going on.
00:43:40.360 --> 00:43:41.080 Frank R. Harrison: Right.
00:43:41.520 --> 00:43:43.840 Shervon Laurice: But you have to self regulate.
00:43:44.060 --> 00:43:47.850 Shervon Laurice: and how you then take that self regulation.
00:43:48.260 --> 00:43:52.490 Shervon Laurice: You go out into the world and you do what you can do
00:43:52.620 --> 00:43:55.870 Shervon Laurice: so instead of being stuck in the news cycle.
00:43:56.230 --> 00:44:06.679 Shervon Laurice: figuring out not only how to connect with other humans that can love and support you, and who you can love and support. If there is a cause that you believe in.
00:44:07.700 --> 00:44:11.860 Shervon Laurice: find a way to help pick one thing.
00:44:12.800 --> 00:44:18.800 Frank R. Harrison: So that's self regulation involves looking internally listening to your gut
00:44:19.060 --> 00:44:21.890 Frank R. Harrison: keeping in mind of your central nervous system.
00:44:22.790 --> 00:44:31.120 Frank R. Harrison: Get rid of the dependencies on medications or other kinds of things. But if we were never taught that, that's what we ended up adapting to.
00:44:31.750 --> 00:44:34.289 Frank R. Harrison: So it's a lot of
00:44:34.490 --> 00:44:44.142 Frank R. Harrison: constant, searching, internal searching that needs to happen in order to move forward through the chaos, which at this rate may be another 2 or 3 years.
00:44:44.990 --> 00:44:46.949 Shervon Laurice: Exactly. You know.
00:44:47.440 --> 00:44:52.249 Frank R. Harrison: But, in other words, this chaos is really instructing us without being said
00:44:52.820 --> 00:44:55.239 Frank R. Harrison: to self-regulate, which we've never been taught.
00:44:55.640 --> 00:44:56.480 Shervon Laurice: That's right.
00:44:56.780 --> 00:45:00.880 Frank R. Harrison: So that's the takeaway. Before we go to our final break audience.
00:45:01.040 --> 00:45:26.678 Frank R. Harrison: We're building mental resilience by learning to do what we were never taught. Learn to self regulate. That's takeaway number one, and I haven't even ended the show yet. So thank you again, Sirban, for providing that leading information. Now we're we're ready for our next break. And I don't want to talk about the podcast that you have issued on your Youtube channel as well as a little bit more about the kind of
00:45:27.740 --> 00:45:47.719 Frank R. Harrison: psychogenic treatments that you've done like you mentioned earlier about cannabis. So I'd like to learn more about that as we close the show out. So, ladies and gentlemen, please stay tuned right here, as we are learning to self-regulate episode, title, building, mental resilience right here on frank about health on Talkradio, Dot, Nyc. And on all of our socials. We'll be back in a few.
00:47:23.890 --> 00:47:45.939 Frank R. Harrison: Hey, everybody, and welcome back. Well, I guess if we get questions and answers, you can always go ahead and contact. I just showed you Siobhan's website. You can contact her directly if you want to experience a session with her in whatever stress you're currently going through right now, maybe she can find the right solution for you. But I think, as I've already experienced.
00:47:46.130 --> 00:48:09.860 Frank R. Harrison: we need to learn to self-regulate and manage our central nervous system and listen to our gut. Those are the primal things that I've been fighting to do more stronger every day. But after I mean, I'm going to play back our this particular show to keep reminding me to do that each day. So thank you very much. I really appreciate that. I also wanted to upgrade exactly. So. I also did want to discuss with you about
00:48:10.210 --> 00:48:25.839 Frank R. Harrison: the treatments that you've actually talked about on your own personalized, podcast on Youtube, where you were using cannabis to help people deal with certain stress issues or Ptsd issues. Why don't you share a little bit about that?
00:48:26.050 --> 00:48:43.940 Shervon Laurice: Sure. So cannabis is often used, as you know, talked about rather as this, either a gateway drug or it's recreational party drug or people smoke it, and they do nothing right. The lazy Stoner image.
00:48:43.940 --> 00:48:44.720 Frank R. Harrison: Munchies.
00:48:44.720 --> 00:48:46.999 Shervon Laurice: Yes, you get the munchies and you sleep.
00:48:47.140 --> 00:48:48.550 Frank R. Harrison: Yeah, exactly.
00:48:48.550 --> 00:48:53.160 Shervon Laurice: But cannabis is a plant ally
00:48:53.470 --> 00:49:10.080 Shervon Laurice: that has been underestimated for many years, and criminalized because the powers that be at that time felt that it was necessary to do so. It benefited them and their agenda to do so.
00:49:10.240 --> 00:49:12.210 Shervon Laurice: But what we know
00:49:12.430 --> 00:49:22.550 Shervon Laurice: from indigenous cultures around the world, as well as from the research that has been rolling out, is that cannabis is
00:49:22.880 --> 00:49:48.749 Shervon Laurice: can actually be used therapeutically for a myriad of health conditions and can be used therapeutically as a psychedelic, to help people to move inward to solve problems that they've been trying to solve, to help them really think about and move through issues that they haven't been able to move through
00:49:48.860 --> 00:49:52.829 Shervon Laurice: one of the key. There were 2 sessions that I did.
00:49:54.880 --> 00:50:05.149 Shervon Laurice: that really solidified the work for me. One of the key ones was a client who had started a business many years ago.
00:50:05.450 --> 00:50:07.000 Shervon Laurice: and it failed.
00:50:07.350 --> 00:50:16.589 Shervon Laurice: and she had another business idea in her mind. But she was too afraid to step into it because she was like, well, what if it fails?
00:50:18.010 --> 00:50:24.150 Shervon Laurice: She felt stuck and decided to come to me to do one of those sessions.
00:50:24.350 --> 00:50:27.660 Shervon Laurice: and it was a beautiful session.
00:50:28.270 --> 00:50:35.140 Shervon Laurice: and she came out of it knowing that. And this is her words. I can do hard things.
00:50:35.610 --> 00:50:38.049 Shervon Laurice: and she went ahead and started her business.
00:50:38.260 --> 00:50:40.389 Shervon Laurice: And she has that business running today.
00:50:41.277 --> 00:50:44.060 Shervon Laurice: There was another gentleman who came to me.
00:50:44.640 --> 00:50:49.939 Shervon Laurice: This was probably 4 years ago, who had hard to treat depression
00:50:50.170 --> 00:50:52.660 Shervon Laurice: and did a cannabis session with me.
00:50:52.800 --> 00:51:02.300 Shervon Laurice: And it's interesting because he was not a client that I was seeing. So he had heard about me, and came and did a consult.
00:51:02.630 --> 00:51:23.660 Shervon Laurice: and his affect. So when you're a therapist, you kind of notice people's affect whether they smile, whether their facial expressions follow a conversation, whether their tone in their voice inflects at the right times all those kinds of things kind of clue you in
00:51:23.900 --> 00:51:29.179 Shervon Laurice: to a person's mental state, so he was clearly depressed. You could see it on him.
00:51:29.330 --> 00:51:44.540 Shervon Laurice: So we met several times, and then scheduled the date for his session, and he imbibed the medicine and started his session. And literally, I'm facilitating this. And so I'm watching. And I could
00:51:44.720 --> 00:51:48.710 Shervon Laurice: almost literally see depression lift from his body.
00:51:49.050 --> 00:52:03.140 Shervon Laurice: It was the most beautiful thing like. He began to move in ways as if he was like waking up his facial expressions, and when he sat up a few hours later, he smiled.
00:52:03.440 --> 00:52:11.230 Shervon Laurice: I had had all these sessions with him beforehand to get him ready for this cannabis session, and I had never seen him smile.
00:52:12.520 --> 00:52:13.610 Shervon Laurice: He smiled.
00:52:14.170 --> 00:52:22.470 Shervon Laurice: that depression lifted, and he was able to make a decision for his life that he had not been able to make, because he was also stuck.
00:52:23.390 --> 00:52:23.810 Frank R. Harrison: Incorrect.
00:52:23.810 --> 00:52:39.899 Shervon Laurice: It's incredible what cannabis and people people, you know, psychedelic medicine is on the rise in the mainstream, right? It's not new, but more and more people know about it and are asking about it, and they want to get away from like
00:52:40.240 --> 00:52:48.789 Shervon Laurice: pharmaceutical medications, and are thinking about this as an option, and some of the psychedelics are not, for everyone.
00:52:49.000 --> 00:52:57.000 Shervon Laurice: Cannabis is not for everyone, but cannabis is one of those things that people can at least
00:52:58.200 --> 00:53:25.509 Shervon Laurice: do and not have as much fear around like going to do an ayahuasca journey, or some other, like a psilocybin journey, or something. They can start with cannabis, because cannabis has the effect of leading people into a psychedelic experience when used properly and in a therapeutic setting with a facilitator who's trained to do so like me.
00:53:25.670 --> 00:53:34.970 Shervon Laurice: So it's fascinating to watch how cannabis can change people's lives when used in that way.
00:53:35.110 --> 00:54:00.399 Shervon Laurice: Psilocybin is another medicine that I work with, and it is also a beautiful medicine to help people to be able to get out of either the depression that they're in to move through Ptsd symptoms to reset the central nervous system. But I've also seen where people just use psilocybin as a microdosing
00:54:00.520 --> 00:54:11.279 Shervon Laurice: element to add to their lives. And Microdosing is taking a 10th of of a gram. So you're not actually feeling it.
00:54:11.470 --> 00:54:14.479 Shervon Laurice: It's it's what do they call it? Some sub sub
00:54:14.590 --> 00:54:28.790 Shervon Laurice: perceptual, so that you're not necessarily feeling it, but it does give you an almost an elevated sense of focus clarity.
00:54:31.070 --> 00:54:39.450 Shervon Laurice: Ability to see your way forward through something that might have felt murky beforehand.
00:54:39.730 --> 00:54:44.250 Shervon Laurice: So those 2 are are my favorites.
00:54:44.250 --> 00:55:00.679 Frank R. Harrison: So if you were to ever come and do a podcast on that, let's say here on talkradio dot Nyc, do you already have a vision of what that could look like, or probably even a podcast, related to your practice. I mean, I don't know what kind of podcast, vision you might have.
00:55:01.690 --> 00:55:09.370 Shervon Laurice: So for my podcast vision. So what what we do on so my practice is called restore tranquillity.
00:55:09.390 --> 00:55:27.819 Shervon Laurice: And we have created several podcast episodes on my channel called Restore tranquillity on Youtube. And there we have talked about the benefits of psychedelics on mental health as well as cannabis, in particular.
00:55:27.820 --> 00:55:39.689 Shervon Laurice: for ailments of all kinds, mental health as well. We have a cannabis coaching program that my employee runs, and
00:55:39.750 --> 00:55:46.279 Shervon Laurice: it's it's been this space where we can give people more options.
00:55:46.885 --> 00:56:07.329 Shervon Laurice: information that they can then themselves go research or reach out and contact us and get further information. And so that that's some of the what we talk about on those episodes we also talk about, you know, just mental health in general, and then helping people to kind of get through what we're living through
00:56:07.690 --> 00:56:10.870 Shervon Laurice: now. We did say earlier in the show that people.
00:56:10.870 --> 00:56:19.040 Frank R. Harrison: Not been taught to self-regulate. So would you say that cannabis or other type of psychedelics have become the substitute to help
00:56:19.240 --> 00:56:21.190 Frank R. Harrison: with self-regulation.
00:56:22.020 --> 00:56:32.330 Shervon Laurice: I wouldn't say the substitute, I would say, though it is psychedelics and cannabis in general are tools
00:56:32.640 --> 00:56:33.560 Shervon Laurice: tools. Okay?
00:56:33.560 --> 00:56:41.799 Shervon Laurice: Because we have seen where people, at least here in our modern culture in the States, will use those substances
00:56:42.770 --> 00:56:50.110 Shervon Laurice: in not the right setting and in not the right mindset, and they have what they call a bad trip.
00:56:52.130 --> 00:56:52.890 Frank R. Harrison: Exactly.
00:56:52.890 --> 00:57:06.460 Shervon Laurice: Our. The way I was trained to work with these medicines is kind of this old school model of meeting with someone and 1st assessing, if they're even a good candidate for this kind of medicine work?
00:57:06.690 --> 00:57:15.409 Shervon Laurice: If so, then talking them through what to expect, like the preparation process.
00:57:15.510 --> 00:57:17.930 Frank R. Harrison: How do you prepare yourself?
00:57:18.090 --> 00:57:24.360 Shervon Laurice: For said experience, and then the key is intention.
00:57:24.610 --> 00:57:40.239 Shervon Laurice: Intentionality is the key to everything in my mind, including what we were talking about earlier in regulating our central nervous system. Right? We all breathe. If we're not breathing, we're dead right.
00:57:40.240 --> 00:57:40.870 Frank R. Harrison: Exactly.
00:57:40.870 --> 00:57:48.940 Shervon Laurice: But when you intentionally focus on your breathing and you can shift
00:57:49.090 --> 00:57:59.950 Shervon Laurice: how you're breathing, you can then shift your central nervous system right? So it's the same with these medicines. What is your intention
00:58:00.100 --> 00:58:04.359 Shervon Laurice: in that moment in ingesting that medicine?
00:58:04.930 --> 00:58:08.650 Shervon Laurice: Right? What are you looking to get out of this process.
00:58:09.010 --> 00:58:14.409 Shervon Laurice: What are you looking, or to shift within you?
00:58:14.870 --> 00:58:32.799 Shervon Laurice: So the intention is so key we don't go any farther. If we can't get an intention, then we don't do a journey experience right. Once a person has an intention, and sometimes people have 2 or 3 intentions for a journey experience, and that's fine. Then we have the experience.
00:58:33.300 --> 00:58:36.159 Shervon Laurice: Then I as the trained facilitator.
00:58:36.680 --> 00:58:43.190 Shervon Laurice: I'm there to walk people through that experience, so that if there are hard points.
00:58:44.450 --> 00:58:47.740 Shervon Laurice: I can help you through to the other side.
00:58:48.590 --> 00:58:54.979 Shervon Laurice: And then, after that journey experience, it's all about integration, and that's what gets lost.
00:58:55.120 --> 00:59:24.979 Shervon Laurice: That's also what gets lost in recreational use of any of these substances. People take them without intention, and then they never integrate their experience. Integration is key because you get to talk about the experience with someone who's trained, or at least journal about it, and then figure out what you learned from that experience. What you got out of that experience, what feels like. It's more accessible to you now in your life.
00:59:24.980 --> 00:59:37.530 Shervon Laurice: And what do you feel like you can do away with right? What can you shift in your life to step into in your life in a way that you've never thought about before.
00:59:37.540 --> 00:59:39.769 Shervon Laurice: And if you're problem solving.
00:59:40.130 --> 00:59:41.420 Shervon Laurice: Then what?
00:59:41.740 --> 00:59:47.860 Shervon Laurice: What can you bring to that problem that will help you solve it and move forward.
00:59:48.200 --> 00:59:49.300 Shervon Laurice: So, ladies and.
00:59:49.300 --> 00:59:56.210 Frank R. Harrison: Gentlemen are about to end the show, but she wrapped up a 360 degree. Approach
00:59:56.980 --> 01:00:00.228 Frank R. Harrison: Travonne. I'm sorry, I said she. Just like that.
01:00:01.300 --> 01:00:17.589 Frank R. Harrison: You wrapped up a 360 degree approach to how we can all build mental resilience, which is, look at your intention. Listen to your gut focus on your central nervous system. At the same time
01:00:18.200 --> 01:00:24.169 Frank R. Harrison: we all learned not to self-regulate, so that which should be in a goal for all of us
01:00:24.310 --> 01:00:43.779 Frank R. Harrison: that will help us be in this holistic view that you have presented. I showed the website earlier. Please look at Siobhan Laurice on her website, I would highly recommend that you go, actually reach out to her, ask questions at the same time, possibly even have a session with her.
01:00:43.870 --> 01:01:01.850 Frank R. Harrison: I am already convinced of what I need to do, which is, continue Frank, about health, because next week's guest with my co-host, Phyllis Quinlan is going to be Dr. Marshall Runji, who is going to talk about the great American health disruption that has gone on
01:01:02.020 --> 01:01:21.259 Frank R. Harrison: since the beginning of the year, actually since, even beforehand, but more amplified as we talked about earlier. And we're going to talk about his new book being released may 5, th which is going to be something that we can learn from interpret and readjust, especially after today's episode of Frank about health with Siobhan.
01:01:21.410 --> 01:01:36.269 Frank R. Harrison: So I'm hoping that I've done my part since the beginning of the month to be more therapeutic in nature, and be more of an advocate for all of you out there who are still fragmented in your thinking or judgment based on all the stressors that are out there.
01:01:36.480 --> 01:01:59.040 Frank R. Harrison: It's in your hands. We all need to learn how to get it in our hands and practice it daily for better quality of life going forward. Thank you, Siobhan, for being on today's episode of Frank about health. It was truly a therapy session for me, and at the same time I hope for my listeners and viewers out there as well, and for you as well. Back there, Jesse. Thanks again for for producing the show.
01:01:59.546 --> 01:02:05.963 Frank R. Harrison: I know we're probably a little bit over, but I just want to thank everybody. Please stay tuned
01:02:06.760 --> 01:02:14.460 Frank R. Harrison: for the next episode of Frank about health next week, and have a wonderful weekend and happy Easter. Take care, bye.
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