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The Audience will learn about the times we are in and where Healthcare continues to be disrupted in our society both medically and through the media. We will also discuss memories of Reatha Grey
Phyllis Quinlan has been a co-host on Frank About Health and she comes back to help pay tribute to our friend Reatha Grey while we also discuss the disruptions in healthcare that continue to pervade us personally, professionally and through the media. It will be an overall discussion of what is going on and what can we do to keep grounded in advocating for our quality of life.
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In this emotionally resonant episode of Frank About Health, Frank R. Harrison and co-host Phyllis Quinlan pay tribute to the late Reatha Gray, celebrating her life, legacy, and mission to inspire personal change and health advocacy. Through heartfelt stories, they reflect on Reatha’s resilience, her fight against systemic healthcare disruption, and her impactful yet often unsung humanitarian work. Framing her journey as both a cautionary tale and a call to action, the episode uses Reatha’s life to explore the ongoing challenge of discerning fact from fiction in today’s rapidly evolving healthcare landscape.
In this segment of Frank About Health, Frank R. Harrison and Phyllis Quinlan unpack the growing chaos in U.S. healthcare policy, with a focus on Medicaid and Medicare disruptions. Quinlan warns healthcare advocates and providers about the alarming lack of reliable public resources, shifting regulations via executive orders, and widespread confusion that could disenfranchise vulnerable populations, including the elderly, disabled, and low-income communities. Amid these challenges, she emphasizes the need for healthcare professionals and consumers alike to stay informed through trusted organizations like the AMA and direct outreach to insurance providers, HR departments, and local representatives.
In this powerful segment of Frank About Health, Frank R. Harrison and Phyllis Quinlan continue their deep dive into healthcare disruption, emphasizing the vital role of self-advocacy, especially amid government defunding and misinformation. Quinlan urges listeners to make informed vaccination decisions by consulting with trusted healthcare professionals and understanding the real risks of preventable diseases like measles, diphtheria, and tetanus—especially as outbreaks resurface in under-vaccinated areas. They also raise alarm about the long-term impact of slashing medical research and public health infrastructure, warning that indiscriminate budget cuts—if done with an axe instead of a scalpel—threaten to reverse decades of progress in public safety and disease prevention.
In the final segment of Frank About Health, Frank R. Harrison and Phyllis Quinlan deliver a heartfelt wrap-up, urging listeners to reclaim control of their healthcare journey amid growing systemic instability. They emphasize three essential takeaways: stay connected with trusted local providers, think critically by cross-referencing diverse sources of information, and embrace emerging technologies like AI to navigate a rapidly changing healthcare environment. Above all, they call on individuals to protect their health and autonomy through informed action and civic engagement, reminding everyone that intuition and self-trust are vital tools in the fight for accessible and reliable care.
00:01:19.330 --> 00:01:24.540 Frank R. Harrison: I have to say, Phyllis. Here we are again 3 years later.
00:01:25.020 --> 00:01:28.980 Frank R. Harrison: but I can say the difference is as we've spoken on the phone.
00:01:29.300 --> 00:01:30.949 Frank R. Harrison: Retha's with us right now.
00:01:31.250 --> 00:01:32.059 Frank R. Harrison: Sure she is.
00:01:32.490 --> 00:01:32.980 Frank R. Harrison: Yes.
00:01:32.980 --> 00:01:36.550 Phyllis Quinlan: Where she is. It's just you know.
00:01:36.770 --> 00:01:44.319 Phyllis Quinlan: 2 of the nicest women I've ever had the pleasure of being associated with, and they're gone, and and I have to consider them guardian angels.
00:01:44.600 --> 00:01:46.419 Frank R. Harrison: Yes, they definitely are.
00:01:47.033 --> 00:01:55.510 Frank R. Harrison: Now for those of you out there. If you recall Phyllis Quinlan and I have worked together on Frank about health, she as my
00:01:55.670 --> 00:02:02.480 Frank R. Harrison: forever lovely co-host, even if we haven't done shows together we're still co-host together. That's the way I view her.
00:02:03.040 --> 00:02:03.555 Frank R. Harrison: And
00:02:04.210 --> 00:02:21.540 Frank R. Harrison: in this particular episode. It is called healthcare, Disruption, fact, or fiction, and we'll talk about why that title in a minute. But I have to 1st say that one of the things that we will discuss today is the passing of our dear friend Ritha Gray.
00:02:21.820 --> 00:02:51.300 Frank R. Harrison: Phyllis and I did the same kind of tribute with Ritha when Betty White had passed. But that's not the reason why we're celebrating Ritha just to do a commemorative retrospective tribute. It's because Ritha Gray represented a light in terms of showing people the way to make change for themselves, whether they were actors, whether they were in government, whether they were advocates like I always talk about like I did on Frank about health with Sam last week.
00:02:52.940 --> 00:02:56.059 Frank R. Harrison: And Ritha in particular, also
00:02:56.280 --> 00:03:06.450 Frank R. Harrison: dealt with the constant disruptions that existed in health care back in her day as well as what we are experiencing today in 2025.
00:03:06.680 --> 00:03:22.049 Frank R. Harrison: And another reason to really pay homage to that scene is because that was the very moment after I saw that scene when I heard the news that Ritha had a heart attack, and unfortunately only had a matter of weeks to live.
00:03:22.200 --> 00:03:25.940 Frank R. Harrison: But I'm also pointing out that that was a
00:03:26.510 --> 00:03:48.770 Frank R. Harrison: I like to use the word Aha! Moment, but that was a pivotal moment, because her passing was a message to all of us, how we take charge of our health and our life, and our vision of what it is to live in a high quality of life that's good enough for ourselves and our families. That's why I think that not only is it
00:03:49.010 --> 00:04:07.010 Frank R. Harrison: appropriate for us to show that scene as a tribute to Ritha, but also as a lesson for all of us, that, especially in the next hour, as we discuss about the healthcare disruptions that are going on in our society are things that we need to be aware of and to try to discern what's fact and what is fiction.
00:04:07.160 --> 00:04:32.960 Frank R. Harrison: So I would have to say that today is not only a tribute to Ritha, but it is Ritha allowing us, me and Phyllis to educate you all out there about the various disruptions that are going on in policy, in technology, in medicine, and in other areas of of health care that can sometimes be misrepresented by the media. But what I'm hoping is that Frank, about health will lead you in the right direction.
00:04:33.120 --> 00:04:42.690 Frank R. Harrison: So that being, said, Phyllis, I will issue my disclaimer, as I've always promised to do, because these are the facts
00:04:42.740 --> 00:05:00.480 Frank R. Harrison: and the views of Frank about health, or rather of our conversation, that we're going to have today. They're not the views of Talkradio, Dot, Nyc. Or of any other 3rd party media outlet. We are just giving you organic information
00:05:00.520 --> 00:05:19.100 Frank R. Harrison: that Phyllis Quinlan, a well-respected executive coach, health and wellness nurse in one of our New York City hospital systems, is going to provide you her experience and her wealth of knowledge from that experience, so that you can all learn and work with that information. And of course, me.
00:05:19.100 --> 00:05:44.539 Frank R. Harrison: who's now? This is the 135th episode of Frank about health. So all I have is history and consistency of the information that I've presented to all of you. So I hope you find this episode to be informative, and if you don't find it easy to believe, then just don't watch the show. I don't mind saying that anymore. I just want real people to watch this show, and we can all learn together.
00:05:45.400 --> 00:05:50.479 Frank R. Harrison: So that being said, Thank you, Phyllis, for coming back to rank about health.
00:05:50.480 --> 00:05:55.290 Phyllis Quinlan: But that being well, said, my friend, and it's a joy to be back. It's been a while.
00:05:55.500 --> 00:05:56.069 Frank R. Harrison: Thanks. Bill.
00:05:56.070 --> 00:06:15.510 Phyllis Quinlan: Well, I just have to say there was a piece of me, you know. No one ever wanted Betty to pass. She was everyone's grandmother, and we all grew up with her. She was a part of a comedic tribe, you know, Carol Burnett, Lucille Ball, Betty White, you know. I mean that that whole genre of
00:06:15.570 --> 00:06:32.259 Phyllis Quinlan: really sincerely funny women. And I can remember growing up and watching her on shows like password, let alone golden girls or any of the other programs, but knowing that she was 99, pushing 100, you you somewhat were prepared to say goodbye.
00:06:32.410 --> 00:06:32.980 Phyllis Quinlan: You know.
00:06:32.980 --> 00:06:33.590 Frank R. Harrison: Exactly.
00:06:33.590 --> 00:06:35.370 Phyllis Quinlan: I was not prepared for Rithu.
00:06:35.370 --> 00:06:35.990 Frank R. Harrison: No.
00:06:36.450 --> 00:06:47.019 Phyllis Quinlan: I read your email and I read it and I read it, and I couldn't believe it. And then I did this Internet search because I thought you have to be
00:06:47.360 --> 00:07:08.929 Phyllis Quinlan: mistaken like this is, this is just a bad dream or a bad rumor, and I just feel, even though, hand to God. I did not know this woman as well as you did. She was not a part of my life as she was for you, but for the short period of time we worked together and collaborated together. It was. It was her dignity.
00:07:09.100 --> 00:07:26.380 Phyllis Quinlan: her professionalism, her caring heart was palpable, and I felt it, and her talent, and I felt it, and I just feel the loss of this amazing woman so acutely and so suddenly and so young.
00:07:27.820 --> 00:07:30.460 Frank R. Harrison: Yes, I was 75 years young, but still.
00:07:30.460 --> 00:07:32.970 Phyllis Quinlan: 25 years young. But yeah.
00:07:32.970 --> 00:07:36.230 Frank R. Harrison: I thought she was gonna be here till till Betty.
00:07:36.230 --> 00:07:58.289 Phyllis Quinlan: I thought she was going to give Betty a run for her money. Do you know what I mean? I just did not see this coming, and it's good to know she didn't suffer. It's good to know her family was with her, and and those are the those kinds and the tribute that she she received. You know it takes the edge off the grief, but I still feel the loss.
00:07:58.770 --> 00:08:02.506 Frank R. Harrison: Yes, and I think that what was unique to me
00:08:03.180 --> 00:08:09.999 Frank R. Harrison: which can help you. I mean, however you might be feeling, the loss is that I literally
00:08:10.420 --> 00:08:16.140 Frank R. Harrison: got the message that she was ill after seeing that scene, which is from the documentary.
00:08:16.870 --> 00:08:20.750 Frank R. Harrison: And then I was in touch with her husband.
00:08:20.970 --> 00:08:25.440 Frank R. Harrison: and I was in touch with her cousin, and I was in touch with her manager.
00:08:25.580 --> 00:08:30.350 Frank R. Harrison: and we were all experiencing her transition because
00:08:31.280 --> 00:08:36.210 Frank R. Harrison: the stroke and the heart attack led to her being on devices to keep her alive.
00:08:36.470 --> 00:08:37.240 Frank R. Harrison: But when.
00:08:37.240 --> 00:08:37.870 Phyllis Quinlan: Not, want.
00:08:37.870 --> 00:08:47.950 Frank R. Harrison: Her advance directive indicated. If you can't, by the 31st of December 2024, if you can't do anything I want to be removed. She asked for that to happen.
00:08:48.400 --> 00:08:54.959 Frank R. Harrison: And when she had transitioned, I'm here in New York. She was obviously in the West Coast.
00:08:55.200 --> 00:09:08.590 Frank R. Harrison: I felt it at 8 0. 1. I was eating dinner I dropped the sandwich, and I said to my parents, who were around me, she just passed, and I got the call. Half an hour later, confirming time of death. 8, 0, 1.
00:09:08.590 --> 00:09:09.340 Phyllis Quinlan: Yeah.
00:09:09.340 --> 00:09:25.780 Frank R. Harrison: I felt her going through me, and I felt her through me when I went to the West coast to issue my eulogy and memorial tribute, and I just remember her telling me what to say and what to do even when I came home, you know. So I guess the difference here is that
00:09:26.140 --> 00:09:31.780 Frank R. Harrison: if she was going through me during her transition, then this is how she wanted to go.
00:09:32.230 --> 00:09:33.939 Frank R. Harrison: so that takes away the grief.
00:09:34.190 --> 00:09:46.409 Phyllis Quinlan: Yeah, it does. And then, you know, when your own personal sense of loss, you know, starts to subside, you know. And you you start to realize as with Betty.
00:09:47.710 --> 00:09:57.589 Phyllis Quinlan: Aretha's was a life well led, and she she was far from one dimensional. She she was engaged in life to the fullest to the end.
00:09:57.690 --> 00:10:10.559 Phyllis Quinlan: and she's the the legacy that she is leaving behind. And it's just incredible, and and I'll work all my life to try to even match it. But I just.
00:10:10.810 --> 00:10:16.500 Phyllis Quinlan: you know, envision her sitting with Betty, laughing, their butts off, and and
00:10:16.500 --> 00:10:22.569 Phyllis Quinlan: and just poking each other and drinking huge glasses of wine exactly.
00:10:22.570 --> 00:10:24.319 Phyllis Quinlan: Choose to remember them both. Yep.
00:10:24.320 --> 00:10:25.390 Frank R. Harrison: Exactly.
00:10:25.680 --> 00:10:55.029 Frank R. Harrison: Wow. So I think that okay, Ritha, this is how we want to pay tribute to you because you're with us right now. Okay, you know. I mean, one can say that when like when Betty passed, I mean, you had tribute shows and and a lot of press, and whatever I mean, and rightfully so in this case she's still getting it, even while she has passed, as if she's still working with us. I know her show retirement house misses her terribly. It's unfortunate they've.
00:10:55.030 --> 00:11:12.730 Phyllis Quinlan: You know I just she's such a joy, I mean here she is, you know, at her grand age, and on Tiktok, and doing all those things because she wanted to bring joy in a sense of engagement to elders who, she felt was isolated, and, you know, similar to Betty. She she did
00:11:12.820 --> 00:11:38.459 Phyllis Quinlan: the universe's work, Betty, with her, her desire to help animals. And then, Ritha, you know I don't know if too many people realize that Ritha left the business in 1991 to return in 2,007. But between 1991 and 2,007, she was around the Globe doing missionary work, and I don't think people really know that. And and it just speaks to her talent.
00:11:38.460 --> 00:11:59.870 Phyllis Quinlan: because how many people you know get to a place on the West coast, and and you know, hope to God it's going to be there on Monday. But she had the courage of her convictions and and a calling, a humanistic calling to walk away from. You know the career she was having, and then do the universe's work. And then.
00:12:00.030 --> 00:12:07.469 Phyllis Quinlan: as the universe would say, thank you very much, and here's your career back, and you know she was more popular than ever, so.
00:12:07.470 --> 00:12:08.190 Frank R. Harrison: Absolutely.
00:12:08.190 --> 00:12:11.099 Phyllis Quinlan: It's quite a lesson, quite a life lesson.
00:12:11.620 --> 00:12:20.320 Frank R. Harrison: Absolutely. And you know it's kind of funny what I had learned about her missionary work. It was when she appeared on Frank about health, my last show before the holiday season.
00:12:20.570 --> 00:12:44.989 Frank R. Harrison: I'd known the woman almost 12 years by that point, and that's the 1st time I found that out, so I guess we all have our own hidden talents and hidden missions, and you need to retain it for your own self-preservation, but at the same time give out to the population at large what you can like, you say, do the universe's work, but still keep a part of yourself discreet, because that's where you get your fuel
00:12:44.990 --> 00:12:51.579 Frank R. Harrison: to continue to recharge and continue to give your best quality. Work out there to our fellow humanity.
00:12:51.580 --> 00:12:55.150 Phyllis Quinlan: Think what she was really trying to do was she had.
00:12:56.330 --> 00:13:19.319 Phyllis Quinlan: Her life was in in compartments, she had her family life, and you know her marriage and her child and and her friends, and then she had her professional life, you know, in show business. And then she had this piece, but she didn't really blend them. In other words, she didn't use her celebrity as part of what she was doing with her missionary work. That was something
00:13:19.320 --> 00:13:41.660 Phyllis Quinlan: very private, very personal, and very committed, because, you know, that was almost 18 years. She was away from the business, and you know, and and doing that kind of work in a very selfless way, and I'm sure it fed her soul in more ways than we can even imagine. But it was good that she came back so we could enjoy her up to the end.
00:13:41.960 --> 00:13:54.090 Frank R. Harrison: Absolutely all right, ladies and gentlemen, we're up to our 1st break, though. This whole conversation that Phyllis and I just had about Retha is actually a primer for the rest of the show.
00:13:54.190 --> 00:14:05.490 Frank R. Harrison: We just talked about a wonderful woman that went through a healthcare disruption. It disrupted the lives of various people in her life, whether it's positive or negative or neutral.
00:14:05.610 --> 00:14:28.800 Frank R. Harrison: but it serves as a foundation for how we're going to spend the next 45 min of the show, mentioning that there is disruption in healthcare continually on a chaotic daily basis, and we want to spend the next 45 min with Ritha's example, putting it all in perspective so that each of us can leave at 6 o'clock and really map out
00:14:29.110 --> 00:14:51.210 Frank R. Harrison: what it is we can do to continue preserving our existing healthcare resources, as well as our opportunities to manifest with new technologies as well as new medicines, and possibly new cures without the noise which we also want to muddle through. So, ladies and gentlemen, please stay tuned for our next segment right here on Talkradio, dot Nyc.
00:14:51.210 --> 00:15:00.619 Frank R. Harrison: And on our Facebook Linkedin Youtube and twitch channels right here on Frank about health, when we will be right back. Stay tuned.
00:16:41.980 --> 00:16:44.820 Frank R. Harrison: Hey, everybody, and welcome back. So, Phyllis.
00:16:45.170 --> 00:17:05.989 Frank R. Harrison: we were talking on the phone as well as even before the show began, about all the noise that is going on every single day in the media about what we have today and what we might lose tomorrow. Everyone knows about my cousin being in a nursing home. And today's news about Medicaid being cut short.
00:17:06.329 --> 00:17:27.090 Frank R. Harrison: I can't even begin to see how that's going to impact. I mean, I can't begin to imagine how that's going to impact my cousin in her new residence. That being said so, why don't you start off this segment to talk about the disruptions in health care that are affecting our policies, and whatever resources we currently have that are at risk of being taken away.
00:17:27.420 --> 00:17:47.259 Phyllis Quinlan: So I just want to, you know, preface my words by saying I'm not an expert in any of this, and quite honestly, I don't think there are any experts out there, and and the reason for that is that the the message and the information is changing constantly. You know, in the past. We could, you know.
00:17:48.370 --> 00:17:59.120 Phyllis Quinlan: pretty much offer resources, and I know we have put some links in the chat and everything. But the information is changing, and and for the 1st time
00:17:59.580 --> 00:18:01.319 Phyllis Quinlan: places to go get
00:18:01.810 --> 00:18:24.950 Phyllis Quinlan: reliable information, not just hearsay, information or rumor information. Many of those sites have been wiped clean, so it's very, very hard. You know. The the Department of Health Sites have been wiped, the Cdc Center for Disease Center Control. Rather, those sites. Information has been taken down. Linkages have been have been undone.
00:18:25.180 --> 00:18:38.000 Phyllis Quinlan: So it's very hard to get reliable information on what's going on. So you have to be number one. You know we're going to talk about a few things, but you have to be very self reliant
00:18:38.310 --> 00:18:50.380 Phyllis Quinlan: about who you're getting your information from and where you're cross-checking that. So you know sometimes that'll have to be conversations with your physician sometimes. That'll have to be conversations with your insurance company.
00:18:50.400 --> 00:19:11.529 Phyllis Quinlan: and then, of course, trying to find the most reliable things. I know that in response to some of the information being taken down from the center from Disease Control and other such sites that offer resources. The American Medical Association is putting that information on their site. So that is one of the sites, I would say.
00:19:11.860 --> 00:19:26.430 Phyllis Quinlan: Keep in mind from checking from time to time if you have questions, because I know they're doing their best to backfill information that is no longer available on the government sites that we used to use day in and day out. That's that's number one.
00:19:26.750 --> 00:19:27.300 Frank R. Harrison: Hmm.
00:19:27.300 --> 00:19:32.900 Phyllis Quinlan: So where else to begin? Let's just say, you know,
00:19:33.550 --> 00:19:42.870 Phyllis Quinlan: you're going to have to check with your private insurance companies as to what is covered and what is not covered, because usually private insurance companies will mimic
00:19:43.170 --> 00:20:00.260 Phyllis Quinlan: or very much have parallel coverage to Medicare and Medicaid. It shouldn't. Usually private companies will not go below that, but sometimes they go above that, and of course that comes at a price. If you are employed, it's important again to find out what are your benefits
00:20:00.260 --> 00:20:16.410 Phyllis Quinlan: and what has changed? And are some of the government benefits that are that come with Medicare or Medicaid are some of those benefits going to affect your coverage. So again, if you are employed and you have insurance through your employer.
00:20:16.460 --> 00:20:22.310 Phyllis Quinlan: that's probably your human resource department is probably your most reliable sources to checking information.
00:20:22.700 --> 00:20:44.440 Phyllis Quinlan: If you are on Medicare, and everyone is entitled to enroll in Medicare at age 65, you should enroll in Medicare, or at least start the enrollment process. They recommend 3 to 4 months before you are turning 65. So now how to do that?
00:20:44.950 --> 00:21:12.920 Phyllis Quinlan: That's a very good question. How do we do that? Because some of the ways that we've been able to enroll in these things are starting to change. So again, do you have to show up in person? Is it something you can do online? Is it something you can do to schedule an appointment with a representative so that you can enroll and answer all the questions and do what you need to do with someone over the phone.
00:21:13.240 --> 00:21:23.049 Phyllis Quinlan: same thing with social security. Do you have to go down to the Social Security Department now in person, do you? And what and what documentations do you have to bring?
00:21:23.470 --> 00:21:35.269 Phyllis Quinlan: You know. Can you do it over the phone? Can you make an appointment to do that over the phone? These are all things that we did have access to in the past. And now we're all changing.
00:21:35.390 --> 00:21:40.029 Phyllis Quinlan: Here's the tormenting piece, Frank, that concerns me is that.
00:21:40.030 --> 00:21:40.790 Frank R. Harrison: I'm ready.
00:21:40.790 --> 00:21:42.140 Phyllis Quinlan: Last week.
00:21:42.850 --> 00:21:58.359 Phyllis Quinlan: you know you could. You know they were saying that they were limiting access to social security information and and being able to access your social security. And then, of course, there was a major uproar from citizens about what about disabled elders or elders that
00:21:58.640 --> 00:22:18.969 Phyllis Quinlan: can't go down and don't drive, and you know whatever. And then, of course, now they rolled it back. And here's the dilemma, and this is what I want to caution your leaders about and and and is that you have to stay on top of the information because the information and the disinformation are getting blended. And
00:22:18.970 --> 00:22:33.379 Phyllis Quinlan: one week it's 1 thing, and then the next week it's something else, and nothing will confuse you more than that kind of information. Yes, no slap, hug, slap, hug back and forth, back and forth.
00:22:33.690 --> 00:22:48.029 Phyllis Quinlan: and I don't understand the professionalism or the reasoning behind this other than to disenfranchise people. I'm sorry, but that's what I feel I feel the confusion is to frustrate and disenfranchise. And have you not
00:22:48.520 --> 00:23:04.200 Phyllis Quinlan: enroll in things that you are entitled to enroll into? So again, you know, do we have to seek a little legal counsel from our, you know, a friendly attorney that you might have access to for family business.
00:23:04.550 --> 00:23:24.090 Phyllis Quinlan: We're just going to have to get as much counsel as possible as to what's current for today. So what's happening on April 10th may not be exactly what's happening on April 15, th and so on. And this is really really problematic. As I understand it, the big changes now to Medicare
00:23:24.330 --> 00:23:30.940 Phyllis Quinlan: have to do with part D, which is the part D covers the medications.
00:23:30.990 --> 00:23:57.269 Phyllis Quinlan: and that the deductible pieces, you know, have changed, and some insurance companies are are upping, that some insurance companies are lessening that. But again, you have to speak to, you know, or have to find out exactly what the current information is, because it looks like it's the changes to programs are not following the tried and true methodology. In other words.
00:23:57.270 --> 00:24:02.520 Phyllis Quinlan: it should be a proposal or a bill that goes through the Senate and the house.
00:24:02.520 --> 00:24:08.990 Phyllis Quinlan: and then everybody's informed as to what the changes are, and it's signed into policy.
00:24:09.780 --> 00:24:14.650 Phyllis Quinlan: What's happening now is things are changing on a daily basis with executive orders.
00:24:15.220 --> 00:24:19.339 Phyllis Quinlan: so it bypasses the Senate, it bypasses the House of Representatives.
00:24:19.780 --> 00:24:29.959 Phyllis Quinlan: and all of a sudden, in 24 h something is not what. It was 24 h ago. I can't fathom it.
00:24:30.330 --> 00:24:38.529 Phyllis Quinlan: I can't fathom it, especially when all of us, you know, at a certain age, have paid into these programs all along. So.
00:24:38.890 --> 00:24:59.119 Phyllis Quinlan: you know, stay in touch with your your representatives, your political representatives try to find out as much as you possibly can from them as to where you stand again. The American Medical Association is trying to do a very good job of keeping reliable information that used to be available on government sites that was taken down available
00:24:59.570 --> 00:25:06.379 Phyllis Quinlan: to the American public. So that is, that's really my best guidance. In that case.
00:25:06.810 --> 00:25:07.370 Frank R. Harrison: Hmm.
00:25:07.370 --> 00:25:26.009 Phyllis Quinlan: What's happening with Medicaid is something very different. And as I shared with you before the program, I'm just learning that the House of Representatives and the Senate have just passed a bill that cuts Medicaid by 880 billion dollars by the end of 10 years.
00:25:26.260 --> 00:25:40.030 Phyllis Quinlan: And what's what's concerning here is that the comment that the Speaker of the House made was in reference to lazy people sitting on couches should get up and and do something for themselves instead of playing video games.
00:25:40.640 --> 00:25:55.960 Phyllis Quinlan: And I don't think there's a full appreciation by the American public of how many indigent people and people who cannot, by virtue of physical or mental disabilities or
00:25:56.220 --> 00:26:05.930 Phyllis Quinlan: developmental disabilities are reliant upon Medicaid. So 2 thirds of the nursing home population in this country is covered by Medicaid.
00:26:06.500 --> 00:26:10.400 Phyllis Quinlan: so I'm not sure what they're looking to do
00:26:10.830 --> 00:26:16.048 Phyllis Quinlan: here. I don't know what's happening. 2 thirds of
00:26:16.720 --> 00:26:31.130 Phyllis Quinlan: children are covered by. I don't mean to say, two-thirds. Children are covered by Medicaid. You know disabled people are covered by Medicaid. Those with mental and developmental challenges are covered by Medicaid
00:26:31.710 --> 00:26:37.049 Phyllis Quinlan: and I can tell you. I don't know too many hospitals that aren't
00:26:37.320 --> 00:26:44.989 Phyllis Quinlan: having a large portion of their reimbursement covered by Medicaid. So that said.
00:26:46.170 --> 00:26:56.839 Phyllis Quinlan: I think that we're going to find many rural hospitals and health care systems in dire jeopardy, for you know, and really at risk for closing
00:26:57.270 --> 00:27:10.450 Phyllis Quinlan: one service after another before the hospital itself closes because they're not going to be able to be able. They're not going to get payment for services. And of course that's just a recipe for bankruptcy, and having to close.
00:27:10.450 --> 00:27:11.050 Frank R. Harrison: Hmm.
00:27:11.250 --> 00:27:37.929 Phyllis Quinlan: So again. I am not the living expert in this, but I do understand some, and part of this. I know the concerns that are being voiced in healthcare and healthcare administrative circles, you know. As to you know, we thought we have a budget for 2025 meaning a healthcare organization might have a budget for 2025 only to never see this coming, so to speak, and have to scramble for
00:27:37.930 --> 00:27:49.339 Phyllis Quinlan: you know, what are we going to do if this happens? And what are we going to do if that happens? So it's really putting a great burden onto hospitals
00:27:49.840 --> 00:28:14.980 Phyllis Quinlan: that have been servicing everyone. Hospitals don't turn away people they present to the emergency department. And you know, we, we have the ability to stabilize them. We can admit them. We can transfer them, or we can discharge them. That's our 3 options, but we can't just turn them away and say, if you're not insured or you have Medicaid, and that's not going to give me enough reimburse. We can't, we can't not treat.
00:28:15.150 --> 00:28:43.659 Phyllis Quinlan: you know. Healthcare is not just the business of the business. The health care is delivered by people who are among the most generous people on the planet that are clinic, you know, or clinicians that have paid hundreds of thousands of dollars for their education are dedicated to the service of mankind, and really are going to have some a lot of moral dilemmas and outrage, you know. So that's a piece there.
00:28:43.770 --> 00:29:01.380 Phyllis Quinlan: There are some concerns among the healthcare community about ice walking in and taking patients out of hospitals, and that's that's real. So there are those hospitals around the country that are starting to put out protocols and algorithms that if a representative of ice shows up.
00:29:01.510 --> 00:29:13.220 Phyllis Quinlan: here's what you need to do. But ice cannot just walk in and demand that you disconnect a patient from a medication Iv. Or something, and so they can take them out of the hospital.
00:29:13.510 --> 00:29:27.879 Phyllis Quinlan: It there were rumors that they could do that, that they were allowed to do that. As my understanding is, they are not that we are to ask for their identification, that we are to notify administration.
00:29:28.090 --> 00:29:35.580 Phyllis Quinlan: And then let administration security and the hospital lawyers decide what's going to happen. But you cannot
00:29:37.620 --> 00:29:47.039 Phyllis Quinlan: disconnect somebody from treatment. That might be life sustaining. So you know, we're gonna we're gonna let the administrators and the legal eagles, you know. Talk about that.
00:29:47.940 --> 00:30:02.769 Frank R. Harrison: Well, we're about to take our second break. But before we do, I just have to say, based on everything that you just beautifully presented. The one thing that I see happening is this executive order process oversteps the checks and balances of our Congressional.
00:30:02.770 --> 00:30:07.629 Phyllis Quinlan: Exactly right, and that's what's so disconcerting because it can happen overnight.
00:30:08.750 --> 00:30:17.529 Frank R. Harrison: That makes anyone. You myself really rely more on our local government than the Federal Government at this stage. Is that a fair assessment.
00:30:17.530 --> 00:30:39.180 Phyllis Quinlan: Oh, well, I can't. I'm not going to push back on that. I think part of the thinking here is to let the States drive their own machines. And I'm not saying that's not okay. But if we're paying Federal taxes and have federal programs, then it. You know, there's just so much the local infrastructure is capable of running.
00:30:39.320 --> 00:30:51.719 Phyllis Quinlan: So you know, you would like to see the checks and balances and the discussions and the arguments. And and you know the win-win come out in a bill, but that's just does not seem to be the process right now.
00:30:52.070 --> 00:30:56.259 Frank R. Harrison: So there you have it, everybody, fact or fiction.
00:30:56.370 --> 00:31:04.799 Frank R. Harrison: the policies and resources you currently have. Are they changing because they're supposed to, or because somebody out there wants it to.
00:31:05.020 --> 00:31:20.019 Frank R. Harrison: That's up for you to decide, ladies and gentlemen, when we return we're going to talk about another healthcare disruption, but actually can lead to opportunities as well, depending on who you are. And that's in the area of AI and technology. So please stay tuned. We'll be back in a few.
00:32:51.570 --> 00:33:18.670 Frank R. Harrison: Hey, everybody, and welcome back. Now, Phyllis, that was an excellent overview of everything that I have already personally experienced in terms of the changes within both Medicaid and Medicare. I'm not going to spend any part of this show talking about my personal experience, because I'm just saying that I think I'm 1 of the best barometers to see the impact that is being created with our new leadership, which in itself just makes me want to rely on our own self advocacy.
00:33:18.670 --> 00:33:38.349 Frank R. Harrison: whatever we are doing, whether we're a professional nurse like yourself, or whether I'm just hosting a health podcast, but I am really looking to create impact and awareness, just like what I told Sam last week, especially when when you have self awareness. That's at least a good head start in all of this chaos that you seem to be experiencing.
00:33:38.360 --> 00:33:39.000 Frank R. Harrison: However.
00:33:39.000 --> 00:34:07.140 Phyllis Quinlan: I'd like to add one more thing before we shift topics. I'd just like to add, just talk a little bit about the issue of vaccines, and I'm not here to influence anybody's decision to get vaccinated themselves or to allow their child to be vaccinated. That's a very personal choice to make, and hopefully you make it with information and your physician and reliable information. But I do want to raise awareness that
00:34:07.140 --> 00:34:16.960 Phyllis Quinlan: everybody should be. If you're choosing not to vaccinate. Please do a deeper dive into making yourself aware of the signs and symptoms of the
00:34:16.989 --> 00:34:41.020 Phyllis Quinlan: the diseases that we have vaccines for. So right now we're having a tremendous measles outbreak. And I think it's you know, everybody knows that we're talking about measles, outbreaks in now Texas, New Mexico, Oklahoma, that whole area, and children becoming sick. And I think what's been reported is 2 children have died or passed from measles.
00:34:41.600 --> 00:34:46.779 Phyllis Quinlan: Again. I'm not here to influence your decision. I just want you to understand
00:34:47.210 --> 00:35:11.889 Phyllis Quinlan: and and make these make make yourself informed about the consequences of measles, because everybody thinks it can be a benign, you know, disease, and it can have some serious consequences. So you know, please make these decisions, not from a sense of politics, but from a sense of real information from reliable sources like your physicians and your healthcare practitioners.
00:35:12.030 --> 00:35:30.290 Phyllis Quinlan: You know we're we're seeing things now with, you know. Measles is the 1st thing to come along. And here's what's going to happen. The next thing to come along is going to be mumps and rubella, because the vaccination that we have for measles is a 3 part vaccination. It covers mumps, rubella
00:35:30.290 --> 00:35:43.410 Phyllis Quinlan: and measles. Okay, it's called an Mmr. So if your child has measles or is exposed to measles, or at risk, because they're not vaccinated. They're also at risk for mumps. They're also at risk for Rubella.
00:35:43.540 --> 00:35:50.319 Phyllis Quinlan: If your child, you know, we've we've had several children in the New York area admitted for diphtheria.
00:35:50.470 --> 00:36:02.199 Phyllis Quinlan: All right. So when that happens, it's not just diphtheria diphtheria. The vaccination for diphtheria is something called a dpt. Okay, it's diphtheria, pertussis and tetanus.
00:36:02.400 --> 00:36:05.640 Phyllis Quinlan: We don't individually vaccinate for individual
00:36:05.790 --> 00:36:09.920 Phyllis Quinlan: bacterial infections. It's it's a group vaccination
00:36:10.730 --> 00:36:22.190 Phyllis Quinlan: so that if if there's an exposure or an outbreak of diphtheria. You can think that, you know you're definitely at risk for an outbreak of pertussis otherwise known as whooping cough.
00:36:22.550 --> 00:36:39.120 Phyllis Quinlan: and there's nothing more agonizing than trying to see a child or an adult, for that matter, gasping for breath and coughing at the same time. And if you've ever tried to cough and breathe at the same time. You know, it's physically impossible. So
00:36:39.120 --> 00:36:52.580 Phyllis Quinlan: you know, it's not just an infection that you will get over. It is really struggling to breathe, and the work of breathing is really hard. So again, make these decisions with information.
00:36:53.255 --> 00:36:55.280 Phyllis Quinlan: Tetanus is deadly.
00:36:55.280 --> 00:37:25.139 Phyllis Quinlan: I just want to say that out loud, anybody can Google Tetanus. One of the reasons, you know, but tetanus can cause muscle spasms and different types of trouble with your respiratory muscles, and you can. You can certainly be struggling to breathe with tetanus. It can cause neurological damage as well. So please. Again, if you're you know I'm not here to influence your decision. I respect your decision to vaccinate or not vaccinate.
00:37:25.140 --> 00:37:33.839 Phyllis Quinlan: but I'd like you to do it with information that is, that is really reliable, and that, you understand childhood diseases are not.
00:37:34.000 --> 00:37:36.819 Phyllis Quinlan: The reason why we develop these vaccines
00:37:37.050 --> 00:38:03.409 Phyllis Quinlan: was because of the serious consequences of this in a time when polio should be, you know, eradicated from the face of the planet. Smallpox should be eradicated from the face of the planet. The thought of having some child's mobility taken away by a vaccine. Preventable disease is heartbreaking, absolutely heartbreaking, because there's no cure for polio.
00:38:03.530 --> 00:38:10.180 Phyllis Quinlan: you know. If you get it more than likely you are going to have some residual effect that will be life changing.
00:38:10.360 --> 00:38:15.319 Phyllis Quinlan: So these are things now for those of us that are older, you know.
00:38:15.330 --> 00:38:36.860 Phyllis Quinlan: You know, if you're what your feeling is about vaccinations. But I am part of a scientific community. Everything we do in nursing and in the healthcare professions is evidence-based. You know I personally have made the decision to take the vaccines that are offered to me. I've had the
00:38:36.860 --> 00:38:56.250 Phyllis Quinlan: probably 8 doses of the covid vaccine. I get the pneumonia vaccine, and I get the flu vaccine every year, and I'm fortunate I've never had a reaction to it. I understand other people do. But I do think that these are things that we have to take seriously
00:38:56.260 --> 00:39:21.910 Phyllis Quinlan: and realize that there are consequences for not having those things. And again, when we talk about disruption. If hospitals are closing because of lack of reimbursement and access to proper health care, should you get sick from a vaccine preventable disease or a vaccine diminishing disease, you know. Again, there's a ripple effect here. It's not so black and white.
00:39:22.000 --> 00:39:25.269 Phyllis Quinlan: So please be thoughtful in your decisions.
00:39:25.853 --> 00:39:31.189 Phyllis Quinlan: And I guess that's really all I want to, you know. Share at this point on that.
00:39:31.450 --> 00:39:49.509 Frank R. Harrison: It's beautiful, because it literally goes into the next topic, which is about healthcare technologies. And one of the things that we learned during Covid was the Mrna vaccine, which is a technology. It's not getting injected with an actual disease like Covid. It's getting in
00:39:49.690 --> 00:40:16.559 Frank R. Harrison: vaccinated with the genetic markers or the genetic codes that help to reconfigure the illness within your bloodstream, and therefore create immunity to prevent getting the disease or spreading it to others, and that in itself. During what did they call it? Operation warp, speed back in 2020 that literally managed to start the downward trend of all the deaths that we were experiencing, especially here in the New York area.
00:40:16.610 --> 00:40:41.520 Frank R. Harrison: if you recall that wonderful time that we had with the pandemic. But the thing is is that as we were watching the advent of Mrna vaccines, and then watching how our lives were turned into technologically accessible ways of living and communicating Zoom, for example, or even just doing your shopping and your banking and living your life all
00:40:41.520 --> 00:40:51.540 Frank R. Harrison: with your trusty phone. And and whatever it just showed that the technology as a disruption, was helping to find solutions
00:40:51.560 --> 00:41:00.820 Frank R. Harrison: faster, more expedient, even to the point where I had remembered they were talking about Mrna vaccines or Mrna genetically
00:41:00.900 --> 00:41:15.839 Frank R. Harrison: produced serums, I guess, is the right word to find cures for things like cancer and whatever. So it's kind of ironic how, when technology, especially in the area of vaccines is a plus for humanity.
00:41:16.490 --> 00:41:34.710 Frank R. Harrison: It's pushed back for some reason the resistance to progress, which is what it appears to me. I guess those that are resisting it. Don't look at it as progress. But can you give a discussion as to why, when there are improvements through technology, especially in the area of vaccines
00:41:34.990 --> 00:41:38.500 Frank R. Harrison: that there's such pushback. Is it all about economics or.
00:41:38.500 --> 00:41:51.160 Phyllis Quinlan: So I know I honestly don't have a clear cut reason. For that. I don't have evidence-based, you know, references to to support.
00:41:51.300 --> 00:42:01.449 Phyllis Quinlan: You know why people are pushing back. I don't know if enough studies have done that. Some of it is political, some of it's religious. Some of this is just personal belief.
00:42:01.840 --> 00:42:24.890 Phyllis Quinlan: you know, again, these are individual decisions to make, but you know, you want to make them with the best information possible. I do know that there was some some information out there about vitamin A and measles, and while vitamin A can be helpful in treating a case of measles, what we're finding is a lot of cases of vitamin, a overdosing
00:42:24.890 --> 00:42:36.359 Phyllis Quinlan: or vitamin, a toxicity, because people are taking mega doses of vitamin a as opposed to allowing themselves to get if they are exposed, allowing themselves to get the disease measles.
00:42:36.360 --> 00:42:42.330 Phyllis Quinlan: and then saying, Well, I'll just treat it with vitamin a as if vitamin a is the end all, and cure all for
00:42:42.330 --> 00:43:03.949 Phyllis Quinlan: this bacterial infection. And it's not. The thing to understand is that when you overdose on vaccines, more than likely you're going to put your liver at risk. Not on vaccines. Excuse me on, vitamins. You're going to put your liver at risk, because everything goes through the liver, and it's excreted through the kidneys. So you know again, your liver can just do so much.
00:43:03.950 --> 00:43:15.309 Phyllis Quinlan: and if it's a child's liver, it can just do so much less, you know. So you know the you you want to make sure that you know you're not looking at the signs and symptoms of vitamin a
00:43:15.310 --> 00:43:22.939 Phyllis Quinlan: toxicity, and saying, Well, they're just sick from measles. They may be sick from the vitamin. A. So you may want to seek some medical
00:43:23.470 --> 00:43:42.130 Phyllis Quinlan: evaluation of that, because if you are benevolently giving your child mega doses of vitamin A, and it's actually causing harm. I can't think of anything more heartbreaking. So again. I'm not pushing back on the decision. I'm just saying do it with a sense of proportion. Do it with a sense of information. Understand that
00:43:42.130 --> 00:43:54.619 Phyllis Quinlan: the body has a lot of ripple effects you push here, it pulls there. You know that there isn't 1 universal answer for anything. I wish that medicine and nursing was cut and dry. It is not.
00:43:54.930 --> 00:44:20.479 Phyllis Quinlan: it is not, you know. We do the best we can with what we have, and and yes, it is. It is evidence-based and stuff. But that's the important piece. I think one of the biggest disruptions going forward is the lack of funding we're going to have for research. I cannot for the life of me, Frank, understand what is the benefit of pulling research for cancer.
00:44:20.820 --> 00:44:28.279 Phyllis Quinlan: Why would you defund research for cancer and diseases that we are so close to getting our arms around.
00:44:28.440 --> 00:44:37.450 Phyllis Quinlan: You know, if if you were diagnosed with cancer as early as 25 years ago, you know your prognosis was
00:44:37.450 --> 00:45:01.420 Phyllis Quinlan: not what it is today. I mean, we through the research, we have found out so much that we can do with cancer and other diseases that in the past have really, you know, caused death or severe harm. We now have the ability to do some therapies that can can turn around Sickle cell. Why would you want to stop that research?
00:45:01.540 --> 00:45:06.030 Phyllis Quinlan: It makes no sense to me. But
00:45:07.190 --> 00:45:23.110 Phyllis Quinlan: but but again, the the lack of research going forward in some very, very important areas will prove to be a disruptor in the future. You know we will not have. We will be behind the 8 ball, and quite honestly.
00:45:23.590 --> 00:45:32.859 Phyllis Quinlan: the health of the United States will fall behind that of other industrial countries on the planet. We will just not be as healthy as we were.
00:45:33.610 --> 00:45:41.369 Frank R. Harrison: It just sounds again like for them to cut the budget, therefore cut the research, and therefore cut the excess
00:45:41.560 --> 00:45:47.680 Frank R. Harrison: for the vitamins, the vaccines, the nutrition, the whatever it is, is just.
00:45:47.850 --> 00:45:55.530 Frank R. Harrison: you know, an act of not looking at humanity as anything but a commodity. That's what it appears to me.
00:45:55.530 --> 00:46:01.099 Phyllis Quinlan: Yeah. So I I don't know if I would go that far. But you know I don't think there's anybody
00:46:01.250 --> 00:46:07.580 Phyllis Quinlan: that isn't going to say that you know certain things in the Government could certainly use
00:46:07.720 --> 00:46:22.789 Phyllis Quinlan: a deeper dive in, is there? Are there efficiencies? Are there inefficiencies? Are we funding things that could be considered a little on the ridiculous side? Or are we funding things that are really going to shift and improve the life of people on this planet.
00:46:22.930 --> 00:46:28.419 Phyllis Quinlan: But those kinds of deep dives need to be done with a scalpel and not an axe.
00:46:29.598 --> 00:46:31.670 Frank R. Harrison: I love that analogy.
00:46:31.670 --> 00:46:34.319 Phyllis Quinlan: People's lives are at stake here.
00:46:34.320 --> 00:46:35.040 Frank R. Harrison: Exactly.
00:46:35.040 --> 00:46:46.949 Phyllis Quinlan: This is. This is not good, you know. People's lives are at stake, and we're not saying that, you know there might be some waste over here, and some oversight needed over there.
00:46:47.660 --> 00:46:56.090 Phyllis Quinlan: But they're doing away with the funding, for, you know, food and drugs administration. So the people who let us know about
00:46:56.210 --> 00:47:11.330 Phyllis Quinlan: bird flu and and eggs, and or there's a recall of a meat product or a recall of a fowl product or a recall of something else. These people are not that safety net is being
00:47:11.630 --> 00:47:35.599 Phyllis Quinlan: really slashed left and right, so that we are going to be exposed to things that we had a safety wall or a firewall, if you will here to keep us safe. So the indiscriminate just shutting down of things that were put in place to keep us safe without doing due diligence. I just don't understand what people are thinking.
00:47:36.840 --> 00:47:39.830 Frank R. Harrison: So there you have it again, fact or fiction.
00:47:40.180 --> 00:47:51.520 Frank R. Harrison: When you return from the break we will wrap up with future thoughts takeaways, and just overall. From the information you've gathered on today's episode with me and Phyllis of Frank about health.
00:47:51.770 --> 00:47:54.710 Frank R. Harrison: Let's take what we presented as fact
00:47:54.830 --> 00:48:00.269 Frank R. Harrison: and make it your nonfiction story going forward with your health care. We'll be back in a few.
00:49:36.610 --> 00:49:53.959 Frank R. Harrison: Hey, everybody, and welcome back now over the last 45 min, and I know I went a little over in the last Segment. Everything Phyllis was saying needed to be said, so I apologize back there to the engineer that we went over. We had to. All right. Information is power that being said.
00:49:54.395 --> 00:50:05.930 Frank R. Harrison: I think that this is the best time for you and me, Phyllis, to just take all of what was said, and and forgetting the title of today's episode, fact or fiction. The fact is, you you provided facts.
00:50:06.030 --> 00:50:14.890 Frank R. Harrison: It's just with all the noise that you have made clear is out there in the media, and whatever we don't know what to believe, we don't know what's true and what's not.
00:50:14.890 --> 00:50:17.290 Phyllis Quinlan: And that's the most dangerous thing, Frank.
00:50:17.290 --> 00:50:29.080 Frank R. Harrison: Correct, correct. And that's why what I'm hoping is that all the listeners on today's show realize that Frank about health has been there. To be frank and transparent, and open about what is real.
00:50:29.210 --> 00:50:45.060 Frank R. Harrison: and at the same time for everyone to own it within yourself, like we mentioned earlier about Ritha how she owned within herself her knowledge of being, you know, out there as a missionary for others that were homeless and helpless and vulnerable.
00:50:45.530 --> 00:51:09.789 Frank R. Harrison: You don't announce that out loud like you announce a new product on television. But the thing is is that that's the one lesson that I would say, Ritha provided in her own life experience that when it comes to our own health care, that is our story to manage. Nobody needs to know about that, not the political systems out there. Not the media, not not well, your doctors need to know. Obviously. So they can work with you, but
00:51:09.940 --> 00:51:31.359 Frank R. Harrison: your own brain, your own knowledge and information, and it can't be allowing all the noise to distract. So that being said, what I really think one Major Takeaway, is to understand that healthcare disruption is part of today's culture. It's unfortunate how it became that way. But if you remain local.
00:51:31.520 --> 00:51:39.580 Frank R. Harrison: if you remain true to your local doctors, your local government. Even if it's just your city government, at least for the moment
00:51:39.690 --> 00:52:03.839 Frank R. Harrison: you can start to reframe and regroup and use your existing resources like your Medicaid, like your Medicare, or your private insurance, or whatever other financial resources you have, and to continue to get vaccines and to embrace new technologies for new solutions and new cures. And even if the bigger government at large is trying to cut funding and cut access and cut resources.
00:52:03.840 --> 00:52:20.399 Frank R. Harrison: you hold on to the resources you have, and build from there and become what I said on last week's episode of Frank about health, almost like a fighter, not just an advocate, a health fighter to educate and model, after all of those vulnerable people out there
00:52:20.450 --> 00:52:24.800 Frank R. Harrison: to get them the cures and solutions that they need. Now the big
00:52:25.020 --> 00:52:29.439 Frank R. Harrison: disruptor of all is artificial intelligence. But the irony
00:52:29.810 --> 00:52:51.500 Frank R. Harrison: is that since it takes an individual user to explore it and to explore its efficacy rather than to determine if all the noise out there is that it's not to be trusted. It's going to take away your job. It's going to do whatever. Well, that might be true in certain industries, but from my knowledge of AI over the last few months in particular, is that when it comes to healthcare it is accurate.
00:52:51.600 --> 00:53:21.320 Frank R. Harrison: It is perfect, and you get resources much quicker. So I would highly recommend everyone out there to make friends with Chat Gpt to make friends with perplexity, which is, I know, a big search engine for healthcare issues and treatments and methodologies and research and stuff like that, or to even do what you can to just get the expediency that you are looking for, especially in what looks like from what we've discussed, Phyllis, to be a slower acting
00:53:21.660 --> 00:53:45.249 Frank R. Harrison: social system that we once called our government, I mean, I don't know what to call it anymore. I just call it chaos. You know the stock market itself. This has reflected that the past week, you know. So the thing that I'm hoping as another takeaway is that you and I talked about an upcoming book called the great American healthcare Disruption, written by
00:53:45.650 --> 00:54:06.840 Frank R. Harrison: the CEO of a medical system in Michigan, Dr. Marshall Runji, someone who I have had a chance to talk with and and read some of his material, and he is definitely one person who can speak to health care, disruption. And I know, Phyllis. We talked about seeing if he will be available to be on the show soon. I'm going to let
00:54:07.010 --> 00:54:19.159 Frank R. Harrison: Fate and the environment that we're dealing with determine that I'm not. I'm no longer going to push for what needs to be and what can't be. I think I've learned, especially after the last 4 months.
00:54:19.380 --> 00:54:30.929 Frank R. Harrison: I can only go with what I'm given, and if something's taken away it wasn't meant to be there, to begin with. True, you know, so it keeps me balanced a little bit shot get burnt out. But you know what
00:54:31.130 --> 00:54:55.710 Frank R. Harrison: this is a New Year, and I'm going to thrive in 25. But if it wasn't for you, Phyllis, and I've said it over and over again. I would probably not be as balanced as I as I've become over the last few weeks. Your support, especially when it came to my cousin, is priceless, you know. So, and we're now 3 min to ending. So I think, just in a nutshell. Phyllis, what.
00:54:55.710 --> 00:54:56.080 Phyllis Quinlan: Just say.
00:54:56.080 --> 00:55:08.219 Frank R. Harrison: There's 3 takeaways from this episode. Right? One is stay local and true to your doctors and family support systems and your medicines and stuff like that? 2
00:55:09.134 --> 00:55:11.430 Frank R. Harrison: trust your own judgment.
00:55:11.430 --> 00:55:11.990 Phyllis Quinlan: Hmm.
00:55:11.990 --> 00:55:29.759 Frank R. Harrison: Trust the knowledge that has worked for you in the past, regardless of what you hear today about what's no longer good for you, or what is good for you. And then I guess, 3. Everyone should learn to embrace AI technology when it comes to your healthcare. I think those are the 3 that I've come up with. Do you have anything else to add?
00:55:29.970 --> 00:55:58.240 Phyllis Quinlan: Well, you know, I guess it's echoing some of the things that you're saying, you know, if you have a healthcare support system, if you have a private physician, or you you know what we would call an internist, which would be a general physician, or you have a specialist, cardiologist, endocrinologist, whatever the case may be, you know, and you trust them. I put to you that these are the folks that will give you the most accurate current information on
00:55:58.490 --> 00:56:12.699 Phyllis Quinlan: medications, vaccines, research that's out there. Things that have been discontinued, you know. Just keep keep feeding, or, you know, supporting those kinds of relationships so that you can
00:56:13.370 --> 00:56:29.129 Phyllis Quinlan: get accurate information from people you trust as opposed to sources that you're not sure of whether there is, you know, an agenda behind those sources. Okay, that's number one, number 2.
00:56:29.800 --> 00:56:37.690 Phyllis Quinlan: Read everything you possibly can, and then, as you said, use your own determination as to what's right and real for you.
00:56:37.720 --> 00:57:01.539 Phyllis Quinlan: You know you can't just read one newspaper. You can't, just, you know, watch one TV news outlet you. You have to be able to try to get the perspectives for 360 degrees of information to the degree that you can, and then trust your gut. As to. We're all knowledgeable, intelligent people trust your gut as to what's right for you, and what's right for your family.
00:57:01.800 --> 00:57:08.650 Phyllis Quinlan: And the other piece is, please don't put your head in the sand. Politically, this is this is not a
00:57:08.980 --> 00:57:17.280 Phyllis Quinlan: this is not a a storm that will pass this. This is this is serious. And
00:57:17.730 --> 00:57:22.700 Phyllis Quinlan: and those who would influence your future
00:57:24.270 --> 00:57:43.419 Phyllis Quinlan: need to be held accountable. We voted them into office for certain reasons, you know, again, each to ourselves, but we cannot take for granted that our democracy is safe, we cannot take for granted our health is safe. We cannot take for granted our
00:57:43.570 --> 00:57:49.189 Phyllis Quinlan: vote is safe, so we have to stay on top of things and not
00:57:49.360 --> 00:58:00.120 Phyllis Quinlan: put our head in the sand and cross our fingers and hope it all works out in the end. We're going to have to lean in and take part.
00:58:00.640 --> 00:58:01.340 Frank R. Harrison: Correct.
00:58:01.470 --> 00:58:06.380 Frank R. Harrison: You and I are trying to continue sharing the care right? Yes, that's right.
00:58:06.380 --> 00:58:30.849 Frank R. Harrison: Well, so, ladies and gentlemen, again, Phyllis and I have been here for many, many episodes, including today, to pretty much say that when it comes also to your mental health there is nothing better than having gaslighting through the media or through the Internet, or through other individuals who really don't know what they're talking about, and to just sit
00:58:30.960 --> 00:58:38.819 Frank R. Harrison: listening to them and believing that what you're hearing is true. What is true is, as Phyllis said, is in your gut.
00:58:39.450 --> 00:59:05.639 Frank R. Harrison: That is exactly how I felt about Ritha when she passed. I knew she passed, because my gut told me she did. That is the biggest lesson she taught me, and Phyllis and I have been trying to teach you your own intuition, your gut, your health that is, number one across the board, and therefore, if you want to prevent disruption from taking away the access to healthcare that you're currently enjoying.
00:59:05.830 --> 00:59:09.665 Frank R. Harrison: I just was told, say it louder for the people in the back. Yes.
00:59:10.830 --> 00:59:24.880 Phyllis Quinlan: Health is number one without health. You've got nothing all right. So if you maintain your health over the next week, you'll get another fresh episode of Frank about health right here on talkradio dot Nyc. Phyllis. Thank you again.
00:59:25.000 --> 00:59:25.500 Frank R. Harrison: For b.
00:59:25.500 --> 00:59:26.060 Phyllis Quinlan: Always.
00:59:26.080 --> 00:59:26.700 Frank R. Harrison: I will!
00:59:27.045 --> 00:59:27.390 Phyllis Quinlan: Spring.
00:59:27.390 --> 00:59:42.749 Frank R. Harrison: And hope hopefully. We'll be here in a couple of weeks with a guest if that materializes. But the only promise is that I will be here next Thursday, so take care. Thank you again, Jesse, behind the scenes. Thank you, Sam.
00:59:42.750 --> 00:59:43.300 Phyllis Quinlan: Thank you. Jesse.
00:59:43.960 --> 01:00:07.600 Frank R. Harrison: Yes, and we will be available to download on, on Youtube and on Frank, about health is on apple podcasts now, and you can also continue to hear this episode again on on our other social media platforms, Facebook, Linkedin and Twitch. All right, everybody. Thank you again. We'll see you next week.
01:00:08.180 --> 01:00:08.700 Phyllis Quinlan: Night.
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