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LEARN THE KEYS FROM OVER THE VIEL AUTHOR SHAKIRA AS CLEMENTINA ESPOSITO PROFESSOR IN WRITING EXCHANGE A WARM BUSINESS UTLIZING THE SPOKEN WORD
This episode is more than a conversation—it's an energetic transmission. Listeners will walk away with practical tools and spiritual insights to elevate their frequency and live with deeper purpose and presence. Whether you're navigating burnout, craving a more soulful rhythm, or ready to step into your next level of consciousness, this dialogue offers guidance grounded in ancient wisdom and modern practice. From reclaiming rest and reconnecting with nature, to cultivating rituals and rewiring your mindset, Shakira and Clementina illuminate a path toward inner peace, clarity, and expansion.
Tune in if you're ready to rise, recalibrate, and remember who you truly are.
In this soul-nourishing episode, Shakira Monet Johnson—author of the transformative guide Over the Veil: 21 Keys to Raise Your Frequency, and Founder of Maple & Monroe: A Global Social Impact Think-Do Tank—welcomes Clementina Espostio and a leading voice in modern mindfulness and movement.
Together, they explore sacred principles that elevate consciousness and support spiritual alignment: knowing thyself, the revolutionary power of rest, the healing energies of water and nature, the high vibrations of gratitude and grace, the magic of rituals, the wisdom of silence, and the transformative force of mindset.
Infused with grounded insight and divine inspiration, this episode is a guide for anyone ready to live with intention, reclaim their energy, and rise into the Golden Age.
Tune in to align your frequency, anchor your truth, and embody your highest self.
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In this soulful opening to The Happy Spot, Jack Thomas and guests Shakira Johnson and Clementina Esposito explore how spiritual awakenings and radical honesty can lead to deeper happiness, leadership, and impact. They emphasize that true alignment in life and business comes from intentional choices rooted in clarity and self-awareness—especially in times of personal or societal transition. For those seeking happiness, the message is clear: when you understand your truth and boldly choose it, you unlock peace, purpose, and powerful transformation.
In this heartfelt segment of The Happy Spot, Shakira Johnson and Clementina Esposito dive into how spiritual awakenings profoundly shape not just personal growth but also business integrity and alignment. Clementina shares that her most transformative moments—including a traumatic accident—forced her to question inherited beliefs, confront inner truths, and align her work with deeper purpose and authenticity. Together, they remind happiness-seekers that true fulfillment begins when you listen to your soul, embrace change, and trust that even the most painful moments can lead to lasting clarity and peace.
In this deep and soul-stirring segment of The Happy Spot, Shakira Johnson and Clementina Esposito explore the transformative power of choice—how every decision we make shapes our reality and reveals whether we are aligned with growth or clinging to outdated patterns. Through personal stories of spiritual awakenings, emotional release, and courageous boundary-setting, they highlight that stepping into higher frequencies often means releasing relationships and identities that no longer serve us. For happiness-seekers, this episode is a powerful reminder: liberation begins with radical honesty, intentional choices, and the willingness to let go with grace.
In the final segment of The Happy Spot, Shakira Johnson and Clementina Esposito explore the power of truth as a sacred frequency—one that can liberate, heal, and elevate both personal lives and professional leadership. They emphasize that living authentically and standing in your truth isn’t always easy, especially when you've been conditioned to doubt yourself—but it's essential for clarity, alignment, and conscious choice-making. Jack Thomas closes by honoring their wisdom and announcing a collaboration to bring Over the Veil into The Happy Spot's global mission, calling on all listeners to make their choice and rise into higher frequency living.
00:00:38.760 --> 00:00:45.780 JACK THOMAS : Been fortunate growing up 4 generations.
00:00:46.620 --> 00:00:52.990 JACK THOMAS : New York City family business, intergenerational wealth.
00:00:53.740 --> 00:01:04.439 JACK THOMAS : As we look at the news today, we look at Donald trump. This isn't about to be about politics. It is about to be about humanity and human score.
00:01:05.200 --> 00:01:08.849 JACK THOMAS : So today we are fortunate and blessed. We have Shakira Johnson.
00:01:09.150 --> 00:01:17.520 JACK THOMAS : She is a social leader. He's on our 3rd show, New York City podcast. We're putting this worldwide.
00:01:18.400 --> 00:01:26.310 JACK THOMAS : I had the good blessing of meeting her at an evening both of us had gone to a political event. Neither one of us are political.
00:01:27.410 --> 00:01:42.549 JACK THOMAS : She was there representing and supporting other leaders, women strong, and I was there, supporting friends of mine that were there, supporting women, leaders, strong. And that's what the month of April in the happy spot.
00:01:42.730 --> 00:01:49.190 JACK THOMAS : If you think of April we have coming up April. We have Easter, we have
00:01:50.370 --> 00:01:59.470 JACK THOMAS : Judaic holiday, Passover, and let's not forget 4, 20 for everybody to celebrate Green. But there's a variety of different holidays that are going on.
00:01:59.770 --> 00:02:02.510 JACK THOMAS : It's the holiday of humanity and keeping score.
00:02:02.820 --> 00:02:11.030 JACK THOMAS : and at the happy spot we have partnered up with a company out of Europe to help corporations in America to track scorekeeping.
00:02:11.630 --> 00:02:23.070 JACK THOMAS : We follow a system written by a group called Global class. It's an international book. And the book focus on, how do we stay local focus, local and scale global.
00:02:23.250 --> 00:02:25.149 JACK THOMAS : Shakira Johnson gets it.
00:02:25.380 --> 00:02:29.829 JACK THOMAS : We have contracted and extended an offer with her company.
00:02:30.730 --> 00:02:37.889 JACK THOMAS : We are going to have 30 professionals that are employed at the happy spot and work through the training mechanisms she's created
00:02:38.050 --> 00:02:44.610 JACK THOMAS : on the same side. We have Clementina Louise Esposito. Clementina is an international
00:02:45.780 --> 00:02:49.809 JACK THOMAS : coach in writing. She is a college professor.
00:02:49.980 --> 00:02:54.190 JACK THOMAS : but the part about Clementina that we've gotten to know at the happy spot
00:02:54.330 --> 00:03:06.259 JACK THOMAS : is her comfort zone of being who she is as a woman, as a leader. No nonsense, if you want to know what she's thinking, she'll let you know, but she comes at it with warmth.
00:03:06.450 --> 00:03:32.099 JACK THOMAS : with generosity of kindness. And so we are fortunate. Clementina, representing Clementina collective, and looking at the book Shakira has written, and really, how do we help heal our society? I'm sitting in New York City today. I'm on 44th Street. I'm in Manhattan not too far where a young man decided to murder a CEO of an insurance company.
00:03:32.240 --> 00:03:55.349 JACK THOMAS : I can't tell you how many different people I speak to about vigilantism, and how uncomfortable it makes all of us. So we're not going to touch the topic. We're going to touch the topic that when we get really sad, we all call our mom our aunt, our big sister. But we're looking for leaders that are women in leadership, and I'm grateful. I'm going to step aside.
00:03:55.350 --> 00:04:19.659 JACK THOMAS : I'll come back later. But I'm turning the show today. Shakira. 3rd show helping us promote the world. If you ladies right, will just take over the universe and help the male egos that have kind of cloud the world. I really am grateful for the 2 of you. I'm going to duck out of here and turn the floor. Shakira, please lead us to sanity. Thank you so much.
00:04:21.370 --> 00:04:23.170 Shakira Monet - Maple & Monroe Social Impact Think Tank: Thank you so much, Jack.
00:04:23.280 --> 00:04:29.910 Shakira Monet - Maple & Monroe Social Impact Think Tank: It's such an honor to be here again, for, like you said, Show 3. Wow!
00:04:30.551 --> 00:04:42.349 Shakira Monet - Maple & Monroe Social Impact Think Tank: Really so happy and grateful for this opportunity. Thank you, Jack and Ann Shar to host again. The Happy spot. Jack, you're absolutely right.
00:04:43.490 --> 00:04:54.469 Shakira Monet - Maple & Monroe Social Impact Think Tank: We are definitely in the midst of a transition globally going from the masculine to the divine feminine. It will be one of
00:04:54.690 --> 00:04:59.229 Shakira Monet - Maple & Monroe Social Impact Think Tank: love, light, energy, joy, and peace.
00:05:00.220 --> 00:05:07.589 Shakira Monet - Maple & Monroe Social Impact Think Tank: Clementina, I'm so excited for this conversation, I feel like it is gonna be just
00:05:08.400 --> 00:05:14.859 Shakira Monet - Maple & Monroe Social Impact Think Tank: amazing and dynamic. We have so much to talk about. So we're just gonna hop right in.
00:05:21.970 --> 00:05:23.530 Clementina, Founder The Clementina Collective: I said, let's do it.
00:05:24.930 --> 00:05:29.829 Clementina, Founder The Clementina Collective: I'm here for the I'm here for the shift. I'm ready for the dynamic conversation.
00:05:34.610 --> 00:05:36.070 Shakira Monet - Maple & Monroe Social Impact Think Tank: Mentina, are you there?
00:05:36.070 --> 00:05:37.429 Clementina, Founder The Clementina Collective: Yeah. Can you hear me?
00:05:37.430 --> 00:05:48.760 Shakira Monet - Maple & Monroe Social Impact Think Tank: I can. Okay, you were frozen, but you're not now. I'm so excited. Why don't you go ahead and introduce yourself and let the listeners know who you are about your collective, and why you started it.
00:05:49.270 --> 00:05:56.009 Clementina, Founder The Clementina Collective: So I'm Clementina Esposito. I'm the founder of the Clementina Collective, where no one writes alone.
00:05:56.200 --> 00:06:02.570 Clementina, Founder The Clementina Collective: Everyone values the power of a well-told story, and ugly truths turn out beautiful. In the end
00:06:02.790 --> 00:06:04.779 Clementina, Founder The Clementina Collective: I decided to start it
00:06:04.920 --> 00:06:14.050 Clementina, Founder The Clementina Collective: because I left Academia. I was a professor pretty much since I graduated college, and I left
00:06:14.280 --> 00:06:39.089 Clementina, Founder The Clementina Collective: after my 1st son was born. I took a 1 year leave 17 years ago, and I never went back. I decided that I wanted to start my own writing business, where I could do what I felt like was the most powerful thing I was doing in my classroom during office hours which was connecting with my students on a human level and helping them solve
00:06:39.280 --> 00:06:45.280 Clementina, Founder The Clementina Collective: the problems in their lives which we're mostly them through writing.
00:06:45.410 --> 00:07:00.509 Clementina, Founder The Clementina Collective: So I realized that without academic constraints I could probably do more good. So I hung out my shingle, and what I had no idea about what I was most surprised by was that
00:07:03.790 --> 00:07:10.360 Clementina, Founder The Clementina Collective: I didn't know I was asking for a spiritual awakening when I did that but
00:07:10.510 --> 00:07:16.420 Clementina, Founder The Clementina Collective: but I got one, but I got one anyway. So so yeah.
00:07:16.950 --> 00:07:19.680 Shakira Monet - Maple & Monroe Social Impact Think Tank: And and I'm thinking life has never been the same.
00:07:20.280 --> 00:07:24.620 Clementina, Founder The Clementina Collective: No, no, and no, and and that's good.
00:07:26.190 --> 00:07:43.000 Shakira Monet - Maple & Monroe Social Impact Think Tank: So in the other 2 episodes that I was on, I talked a bit about my spiritual awakening, and for those of you who want to learn more, I would invite you to listen to those. But, Clementina, why don't you tell us about yours and what it looked like
00:07:43.290 --> 00:07:49.269 Shakira Monet - Maple & Monroe Social Impact Think Tank: before you went into it when you went in it, and then, after you came out.
00:07:50.990 --> 00:07:53.645 Clementina, Founder The Clementina Collective: Oh, well, I don't know that I'm I'm out.
00:07:53.940 --> 00:07:58.849 Shakira Monet - Maple & Monroe Social Impact Think Tank: You know what? And as I was saying it, I was like, I don't think you're even ever did out.
00:07:58.850 --> 00:07:59.300 Clementina, Founder The Clementina Collective: It's all.
00:07:59.720 --> 00:08:00.389 Shakira Monet - Maple & Monroe Social Impact Think Tank: Can you just?
00:08:00.390 --> 00:08:02.620 Shakira Monet - Maple & Monroe Social Impact Think Tank: It evolves this. It evolves.
00:08:02.620 --> 00:08:08.649 Clementina, Founder The Clementina Collective: I know what you mean. I know what you mean, I mean, you know, and there's always right. There's always a you know. I mean.
00:08:08.770 --> 00:08:24.390 Clementina, Founder The Clementina Collective: there's always a selfish motivation behind things we do. And I think it's important that we also be honest about that. So you know, I wanted it all. I wanted to be able to have time with my children. I wanted to be able to work, you know, and I missed.
00:08:24.580 --> 00:08:33.350 Clementina, Founder The Clementina Collective: you know, sort of like the life of the mind, even though I really enjoyed being a mother and really becoming. It was probably the 1st time in my life that I
00:08:34.270 --> 00:08:48.820 Clementina, Founder The Clementina Collective: became really still and present, and wasn't like striving and ambitious, and all the things you know. And so I thought, all right. Well, I'll do this thing, and I'll be able to create my own time, and I'll be able to.
00:08:49.293 --> 00:08:52.809 Clementina, Founder The Clementina Collective: You know. And I, what I didn't realize is that you know
00:08:52.910 --> 00:09:07.430 Clementina, Founder The Clementina Collective: much like I would have to guide my writers through, you know, to be a writer, and to have a writing business requires a tremendous amount of authenticity and alignment.
00:09:07.904 --> 00:09:19.920 Clementina, Founder The Clementina Collective: And so, as you said, I mean we. I had the pleasure of reading your book before the show, and you asked me which keys resonated most with me, and I chose choice
00:09:20.210 --> 00:09:31.830 Clementina, Founder The Clementina Collective: and truth, and I think part of that was because, you know, when you in the part about choice, you say, you know, we we all have to take responsibility for our lives
00:09:32.200 --> 00:09:38.790 Clementina, Founder The Clementina Collective: right? And we have to take radical responsibility. And we have to realize that everything in our lives is there? Because we made it there.
00:09:39.330 --> 00:09:42.230 Clementina, Founder The Clementina Collective: And right? And that's.
00:09:42.230 --> 00:09:43.570 Shakira Monet - Maple & Monroe Social Impact Think Tank: Some of it. The good.
00:09:43.970 --> 00:09:44.740 Clementina, Founder The Clementina Collective: Yeah.
00:09:44.740 --> 00:09:45.660 Shakira Monet - Maple & Monroe Social Impact Think Tank: And.
00:09:45.660 --> 00:09:46.180 Clementina, Founder The Clementina Collective: Yeah.
00:09:46.180 --> 00:10:03.489 Shakira Monet - Maple & Monroe Social Impact Think Tank: The ugly. We are actively choosing it. And because source just is and doesn't really operate in the sense of polarity. In the same way we do our duality. It's like whatever you want. You can have
00:10:03.720 --> 00:10:09.000 Shakira Monet - Maple & Monroe Social Impact Think Tank: whatever you want. You can have. Whatever your choices dictate is what you have.
00:10:09.670 --> 00:10:19.480 Clementina, Founder The Clementina Collective: Yeah, and you don't, you know. And then then that gets us all into, you know. But you might not know. You might not think you know what you want, you know, but you might not know what that entails, or what that's going to cost you
00:10:19.965 --> 00:10:27.680 Clementina, Founder The Clementina Collective: and so I think you know. It was a process of you know, having to be, you know, having to move with
00:10:27.960 --> 00:10:50.679 Clementina, Founder The Clementina Collective: radical honesty in my life and say, like, you know what relationships weren't working. Who was I breaking bread with? That was not in alignment with my highest good? We see these neat little memes in the personal development space like, oh, you're the sum of the 5 people you hang around with.
00:10:51.060 --> 00:10:52.689 Clementina, Founder The Clementina Collective: But what does that really mean?
00:10:52.870 --> 00:11:01.929 Clementina, Founder The Clementina Collective: You know? What? What does that really mean? And so when you really start to dig deep into these questions, you know, you're going to find answers. You might not like them.
00:11:02.160 --> 00:11:23.350 Clementina, Founder The Clementina Collective: But you're going to find answers. And then, you know, if you really want the life you say you want, and if what's really important, what you say is important to you is really important to you. You're going to have to make some hard choices right? And so, you know, I think I think that that is.
00:11:23.670 --> 00:11:28.089 Clementina, Founder The Clementina Collective: and and they're very connected, I think choice and truth, because
00:11:29.720 --> 00:11:38.329 Clementina, Founder The Clementina Collective: you know, every person has an individual truth. And this happens all the time, you know when I work with people who are writing personal stories or
00:11:38.440 --> 00:11:48.939 Clementina, Founder The Clementina Collective: recovering from traumatic childhoods, you know they'll say, well, my sister said it was different, or I'm worried about what this person is going to think, or you know.
00:11:50.865 --> 00:11:54.770 Clementina, Founder The Clementina Collective: And you know, everybody's truth is different.
00:11:56.870 --> 00:12:12.159 Shakira Monet - Maple & Monroe Social Impact Think Tank: And that is the power of choice, and when we come back from commercial break we'll talk more about choice, and we'll talk more about truth. But you know you hit on so many things. One I want to just come back to is.
00:12:12.500 --> 00:12:14.699 Shakira Monet - Maple & Monroe Social Impact Think Tank: do you even know what you want?
00:12:15.060 --> 00:12:28.329 Shakira Monet - Maple & Monroe Social Impact Think Tank: Do you even know what you want? Right? Because if you're unclear, then your choices reflect that because they're random and ratchet. To quote a mentor of mine right?
00:12:28.600 --> 00:12:36.150 Shakira Monet - Maple & Monroe Social Impact Think Tank: However, when we are focused and intentional in operating and purpose, and our choices align with that
00:12:37.094 --> 00:12:53.169 Shakira Monet - Maple & Monroe Social Impact Think Tank: during my second spiritual awakening. After the 1st time, when I was in my early twenties, and I had a spiritual awakening, and it was so intense that I literally said, God stop! Because it was just
00:12:54.070 --> 00:13:00.500 Shakira Monet - Maple & Monroe Social Impact Think Tank: what a doozy at that time, right? But the second time, and I'm so grateful that I had. Another time
00:13:01.330 --> 00:13:06.150 Shakira Monet - Maple & Monroe Social Impact Think Tank: I was walking outside, and Source said.
00:13:06.410 --> 00:13:09.000 Shakira Monet - Maple & Monroe Social Impact Think Tank: What do you want, whatever you want will give you.
00:13:09.850 --> 00:13:11.650 Shakira Monet - Maple & Monroe Social Impact Think Tank: And I had no answer.
00:13:11.860 --> 00:13:23.640 Shakira Monet - Maple & Monroe Social Impact Think Tank: I didn't even know how to answer. What did I, in fact, want? I knew that I was frustrated, and I didn't like how things were. But I didn't really have an answer to that.
00:13:24.750 --> 00:13:41.479 Shakira Monet - Maple & Monroe Social Impact Think Tank: Clementine. When we get back. I want to also talk about how this impacted you, not only personally, but professionally, what it meant for your business, because what I'm thinking is that because of this spiritual awakening, and those questions that you asked yourself and answered
00:13:41.540 --> 00:14:03.510 Shakira Monet - Maple & Monroe Social Impact Think Tank: and made some tough choices, is how you even ended up with the work that you're doing and being able to make and create such an impact locally, regionally and globally. So we will go to commercial break. And when we come back we will talk more about choice and truth and how it impacts us in our lives. Thank you.
00:15:47.880 --> 00:15:56.580 Shakira Monet - Maple & Monroe Social Impact Think Tank: Hello, everybody, and welcome back to the happy spot. I am your host for today today. Shakira Monet Johnson.
00:15:56.710 --> 00:16:04.450 Shakira Monet - Maple & Monroe Social Impact Think Tank: founder of Maple and Monroe. A global social impact. Think and do, tank and author of Over the veil
00:16:04.570 --> 00:16:10.110 Shakira Monet - Maple & Monroe Social Impact Think Tank: 21 keys to raise your frequency and thrive in the Golden Age.
00:16:10.370 --> 00:16:31.909 Shakira Monet - Maple & Monroe Social Impact Think Tank: Today I have Guest Clementina, who is founder of the Clementina Collective, and before the break we were just talking about her spiritual awakening, some of the tower moments that came from it, and then moving into how that impacted her from business. So, Clementina, welcome back
00:16:32.710 --> 00:16:40.479 Shakira Monet - Maple & Monroe Social Impact Think Tank: before the break. We talked some about your spiritual awakening, but share how it really impacted your business
00:16:41.820 --> 00:16:43.040 Shakira Monet - Maple & Monroe Social Impact Think Tank: or career.
00:16:44.410 --> 00:16:59.910 Clementina, Founder The Clementina Collective: Yeah, I think you know business career life. I think it's all you know. I think you know, when you get really really authentic and you get aligned with your purpose. You know it becomes harder and harder to make these neat little categories right? But
00:17:03.270 --> 00:17:04.700 Clementina, Founder The Clementina Collective: I mean.
00:17:06.130 --> 00:17:14.339 Clementina, Founder The Clementina Collective: I don't think I think you're absolutely right. I know for a certain I wouldn't be able to come to
00:17:14.480 --> 00:17:27.499 Clementina, Founder The Clementina Collective: my clients, works with the amount of compassion, empathy, understanding, knowledge and guidance that I do.
00:17:27.839 --> 00:17:56.400 Clementina, Founder The Clementina Collective: Had I not been through, you know, had I not, you know, had I not been walking the talk, you know, and and doing it myself. I mean, there are all kinds of books that people write, you know, even even books like yours that I call, you know, business books right? It's a 21 keys, and there's a there's a story at the beginning which gives us a glimpse into you know who you are and how you think.
00:17:58.350 --> 00:18:21.549 Clementina, Founder The Clementina Collective: but it's the essence. It's already a distilled. It's distilled wisdom for easy consumption for your readers, which is awesome, which is what you want from a good leader, right? And you know we don't always get a glimpse into. You know the messy.
00:18:22.890 --> 00:18:29.970 Clementina, Founder The Clementina Collective: the messy ways that you get that wisdom. But when right? And and you said in your book that
00:18:30.970 --> 00:18:42.409 Clementina, Founder The Clementina Collective: right? You said, and you're you know you say this thing that's so profound and like yes, yes, right. But how did you? You know? And you say that you you know you were gifted with a download
00:18:43.137 --> 00:18:48.282 Clementina, Founder The Clementina Collective: you know about it, which is great. I mean, when that happens. That's amazing.
00:18:48.780 --> 00:19:03.179 Clementina, Founder The Clementina Collective: you know, a kind of transmission from source. And and that's wonderful. But just knowing you even as recently as I do. You know, I can see in the way that you speak in the way that you are that you know you have.
00:19:03.430 --> 00:19:13.329 Clementina, Founder The Clementina Collective: You have won these hard truths also. Right? But when you're going through it and writing a lot of times, writing books brings up a very messy process for people of
00:19:13.590 --> 00:19:16.093 Clementina, Founder The Clementina Collective: you know, trying to
00:19:17.700 --> 00:19:29.719 Clementina, Founder The Clementina Collective: you know, find find. Their voice, you know, is the common, you know, way to say it, and I don't think I think everyone's voice is inside them. I don't think it's something we have to go
00:19:29.920 --> 00:19:33.509 Clementina, Founder The Clementina Collective: looking forward to find, but I do think that over time.
00:19:34.135 --> 00:19:39.390 Clementina, Founder The Clementina Collective: We have constraints put upon us. You know that we have to remove.
00:19:39.750 --> 00:19:45.070 Clementina, Founder The Clementina Collective: and we have to do the work to remove and, you know, subtract.
00:19:45.280 --> 00:20:00.989 Clementina, Founder The Clementina Collective: you know, and and, as you say in your book a lot of times that involves people and places. So how? How it affected my businesses, I mean, I wouldn't. I wouldn't be worth my salt if I wasn't in alignment, and if I wasn't in integrity with myself.
00:20:01.774 --> 00:20:20.980 Clementina, Founder The Clementina Collective: And so this spiritual awakening, this one. It was also my second also happened in my twenties, and I, too, am grateful for a second one, because the second time around you're like, oh, I know what this is the 1st time I was like. Oh, God, I'm gonna die!
00:20:20.980 --> 00:20:23.240 Shakira Monet - Maple & Monroe Social Impact Think Tank: I was like, what is
00:20:24.130 --> 00:20:41.699 Shakira Monet - Maple & Monroe Social Impact Think Tank: to me and stop it right now, because I'm trying to party and bullshit. Okay, like, I don't even know what's going on, but I'm just not really here for it. And then you get the kind of mundane, profane world. And you're like, oh, this is
00:20:42.020 --> 00:20:49.909 Shakira Monet - Maple & Monroe Social Impact Think Tank: very painful and very dense and very difficult, and like all of the things, so the second time around it very much feels like.
00:20:50.050 --> 00:20:57.250 Shakira Monet - Maple & Monroe Social Impact Think Tank: Oh, I'm glad to be done with that. It's almost like you did it. So you don't miss any of it. But at the same time.
00:20:57.550 --> 00:21:10.029 Shakira Monet - Maple & Monroe Social Impact Think Tank: like you said this, I'm not. I'm not going back. I'm not asking for this to go away. It's such a gift, Clementina. Let's go back for a moment to your 1st awakening in your twenties. What did that look like.
00:21:11.015 --> 00:21:21.964 Clementina, Founder The Clementina Collective: Well, I was in a freak accident. So that just kind of, you know, plummeted me into a a hell I was not prepared for. And
00:21:22.975 --> 00:21:40.794 Clementina, Founder The Clementina Collective: you know, in that hell I had only myself. So. You know it was very. It was very clarifying, and I think pain medications helped, you know. Bring on, you know, all kinds of you know, altered States.
00:21:41.350 --> 00:21:42.380 Clementina, Founder The Clementina Collective: and
00:21:44.080 --> 00:22:11.410 Clementina, Founder The Clementina Collective: yeah, I realized I had to question a lot of you know my beliefs. And you talk about this in your book, too. It was. It was really the 1st one was all about. And again. This is another kind of of truth, but it's not under the label of truth in your book. It's it's like I had to start questioning things, I believe, like so, for example, you know, I was like, Oh, my God! You know I was having these conversations with God, and I realized that
00:22:11.773 --> 00:22:14.999 Clementina, Founder The Clementina Collective: I believed in a punishing God, and I hadn't chosen that
00:22:16.066 --> 00:22:23.030 Clementina, Founder The Clementina Collective: that somehow I believed in a punishing God, and I believed that I was being punished. So
00:22:23.160 --> 00:22:36.589 Clementina, Founder The Clementina Collective: I could only start to heal when I started to work with that belief which is actually not what I believe. You know. That was a belief that was passed on to me through Catholicism and.
00:22:36.590 --> 00:22:37.240 Shakira Monet - Maple & Monroe Social Impact Think Tank: Right.
00:22:37.240 --> 00:22:53.279 Clementina, Founder The Clementina Collective: Right. And I was like, I actually don't believe that right. I was like I really. And and it was amazing that you know, overturning some of these beliefs. While I was in a position where I was trying to heal.
00:22:53.410 --> 00:23:14.430 Clementina, Founder The Clementina Collective: I realized that, you know. And that's also when I started to realize that you know my whole life existed between, and everyone's does right. It's between your ears, right? It's so much about your your mindset and your thoughts and and and your beliefs that influence things you don't even realize are influencing.
00:23:15.020 --> 00:23:30.249 Clementina, Founder The Clementina Collective: But I was. I was naive in the sense that when I when I got through, when I fully recovered and left the relationship that I was in, and actually, once I healed my belief, I realized that
00:23:30.793 --> 00:23:35.130 Clementina, Founder The Clementina Collective: you know. Call it God call it intuition, call it whatever you want.
00:23:35.410 --> 00:23:40.320 Clementina, Founder The Clementina Collective: Some source was whispering to me.
00:23:40.470 --> 00:23:52.319 Clementina, Founder The Clementina Collective: and I was not listening. Right. I was not listening. I was, you know. I was not listening. I was. I didn't know how to leave things. I didn't know how to leave.
00:23:52.320 --> 00:23:57.610 Shakira Monet - Maple & Monroe Social Impact Think Tank: And when you don't listen, be prepared for the biggest face plant
00:24:00.680 --> 00:24:01.760 Clementina, Founder The Clementina Collective: Yeah, so.
00:24:01.760 --> 00:24:05.439 Shakira Monet - Maple & Monroe Social Impact Think Tank: Splashing. Be just, be prepared. It is.
00:24:05.440 --> 00:24:05.830 Clementina, Founder The Clementina Collective: Yes.
00:24:05.830 --> 00:24:06.840 Shakira Monet - Maple & Monroe Social Impact Think Tank: Brutal.
00:24:07.120 --> 00:24:10.550 Clementina, Founder The Clementina Collective: Yeah, so leaving. So you know, becoming
00:24:12.027 --> 00:24:15.209 Clementina, Founder The Clementina Collective: You know, I was in an unhealthy relationship
00:24:15.360 --> 00:24:20.830 Clementina, Founder The Clementina Collective: when the accident happened, and the accident made it very, very clear.
00:24:21.550 --> 00:24:33.550 Clementina, Founder The Clementina Collective: You know, I couldn't delude myself anymore. So healing from the relationship, I mean healing from the accident, you know, meant eventually leaving the relationship.
00:24:33.690 --> 00:24:36.659 Clementina, Founder The Clementina Collective: And you know, when I got through that
00:24:36.860 --> 00:24:40.650 Clementina, Founder The Clementina Collective: when I got through the healing I was foolish enough to think like
00:24:41.030 --> 00:24:56.179 Clementina, Founder The Clementina Collective: I mean, I felt profoundly changed, and, as you said before, you know, life was never the same, and even I was so young, and I found really for the rest of my life after I I had things, you know, ways of thinking and being that other people didn't have.
00:24:56.440 --> 00:25:07.369 Clementina, Founder The Clementina Collective: and without dropping the story. And I didn't really know how to say it like I just said it without dropping. You know the gory details which you didn't always want to do.
00:25:09.410 --> 00:25:25.829 Clementina, Founder The Clementina Collective: I you know I people. I felt like people looked at me sort of strangely like, how how is she? Freakishly non-judgmental? How you know! How does she have so much compassion in it, like looking on the surface. You know you could make a lot of assumptions.
00:25:26.179 --> 00:25:40.139 Clementina, Founder The Clementina Collective: About. You know who I was, not knowing. You know what I had been through, and I foolishly thought, like, Okay, well, I got done with that early. Now I'm going to go on with my productive life, you know.
00:25:40.140 --> 00:25:41.260 Shakira Monet - Maple & Monroe Social Impact Think Tank: Surprise.
00:25:42.380 --> 00:25:55.030 Clementina, Founder The Clementina Collective: Yeah. And so by now I you know, I maybe I'm swinging a little bit the other way, like, Yeah, I don't know if this really ever ends, you know. I think you get these reprieves, you know, every once in a while it's like.
00:25:55.940 --> 00:25:56.979 Shakira Monet - Maple & Monroe Social Impact Think Tank: Yeah. And then
00:25:56.980 --> 00:26:10.899 Shakira Monet - Maple & Monroe Social Impact Think Tank: it revs up. No, you're you're so right, it doesn't end. And that's really even. You talk so much about the book, and you know you're I shared it with you, and I'm so grateful that you read it. But
00:26:11.300 --> 00:26:20.249 Shakira Monet - Maple & Monroe Social Impact Think Tank: one of the things that it talks about in really going over the veil. And what we mean by going over the veil is really
00:26:20.660 --> 00:26:23.800 Shakira Monet - Maple & Monroe Social Impact Think Tank: going over the veils of these
00:26:24.270 --> 00:26:53.730 Shakira Monet - Maple & Monroe Social Impact Think Tank: blockages and beliefs and things that are actually lowering your frequency, these habits, these beliefs, these actions, and really ascending into a higher level of consciousness and thought, process and being. And so, but what it explains in the book is that it doesn't really end. It just transforms over time, you know, and to your you know, the the beginning part can be very intense, because it's like
00:26:53.940 --> 00:27:07.669 Shakira Monet - Maple & Monroe Social Impact Think Tank: things keep being revealed to you and you and you're you're coming, I say, moving from belief to knowing at this point. I don't really believe things. I know them to be true. There are just some things I know to be true. Because
00:27:08.280 --> 00:27:19.679 Shakira Monet - Maple & Monroe Social Impact Think Tank: of the download, and also my understanding of truth, which we'll get into more after the break, just what that even really means. Right. But that being said
00:27:20.520 --> 00:27:40.120 Shakira Monet - Maple & Monroe Social Impact Think Tank: just in understanding that it's ever evolving, and it's almost like you enter a portal or a gate. And then there's that right. It changes you in profound ways over time, and there are ripples. But what I will say is that the longer you're on the other side of it.
00:27:40.210 --> 00:27:52.089 Shakira Monet - Maple & Monroe Social Impact Think Tank: the the more you're able to ride that wave, if that makes sense and understand. And also you have such a much more profound
00:27:53.220 --> 00:27:59.000 Shakira Monet - Maple & Monroe Social Impact Think Tank: love of self and trust of source that
00:27:59.490 --> 00:28:29.080 Shakira Monet - Maple & Monroe Social Impact Think Tank: you know, no matter what everything is okay. At this point in the journey I'm really in a place of everything, always works out for me, and no matter what I'm going to be good, you know I'm really in a good place with that, whereas before, I don't necessarily always feel that way. But you're much more trusting down the road of yourself and source, that no matter what, everything will be okay, and that alone, that mindset alone
00:28:29.260 --> 00:28:31.472 Shakira Monet - Maple & Monroe Social Impact Think Tank: creates the transformation.
00:28:32.670 --> 00:28:56.230 Shakira Monet - Maple & Monroe Social Impact Think Tank: to really just be able to better flow with life, understand life. And in some of the other podcasts we talked more about non duality and and things of that nature. But as you also raise your frequency higher, you move into a space of non duality which really is the Godhead. Just understanding things just are. There really isn't necessarily even a
00:28:56.860 --> 00:29:07.790 Shakira Monet - Maple & Monroe Social Impact Think Tank: good and a bad, in a low density form of polarity on the 3D. Yes, but as you move up to 5 d. That kind of slips away, and in 12 d. It doesn't even exist.
00:29:07.960 --> 00:29:15.669 Shakira Monet - Maple & Monroe Social Impact Think Tank: So we're going to go to Commercial break. And then I'm going to read a passage from key number 9, which is choice.
00:29:15.850 --> 00:29:19.629 Shakira Monet - Maple & Monroe Social Impact Think Tank: And then we're going to talk a little bit about that. Thank you, and stay tuned.
00:30:55.010 --> 00:31:02.350 Shakira Monet - Maple & Monroe Social Impact Think Tank: Hello, everyone, and welcome back to the happy spot. I am your host for today. Shakira Johnson.
00:31:02.470 --> 00:31:30.390 Shakira Monet - Maple & Monroe Social Impact Think Tank: founder of Maple and Monroe global social impact, think and do, tank and author of Over the veil 21 keys to raise your frequency and thrive in the Golden Age. Today's guest is Clementina Esposito, founder of the Clementina Collective. And we've been chatting about spiritual awakenings, choice truth, non duality, and everything in between welcome back Clementina.
00:31:35.560 --> 00:31:36.950 Clementina, Founder The Clementina Collective: Thank you. Thank you.
00:31:38.300 --> 00:31:46.049 Shakira Monet - Maple & Monroe Social Impact Think Tank: So. Let me tell a a quick story about how this book even came to be
00:31:46.530 --> 00:31:48.929 Shakira Monet - Maple & Monroe Social Impact Think Tank: Clementina. You mentioned that
00:31:49.590 --> 00:31:54.590 Shakira Monet - Maple & Monroe Social Impact Think Tank: it was a download, and I and I do say that, and and that is the truth. In that
00:31:54.720 --> 00:32:09.900 Shakira Monet - Maple & Monroe Social Impact Think Tank: I was walking. I had intentionally made the choice to walk to my meeting to meet with the coo of an organization that was my client, and I said, I'm going to walk. While I was walking there. Very clearly.
00:32:10.190 --> 00:32:20.369 Shakira Monet - Maple & Monroe Social Impact Think Tank: spirit said. When you get there, write a list of all the things that you've done in your journey over the veil all right, like, write a list, just write a list of all the things that you've done.
00:32:20.940 --> 00:32:32.799 Shakira Monet - Maple & Monroe Social Impact Think Tank: And I said, Okay, no problem. I'll do it. I get to the meeting. The meeting is great. It's so great that once my client is ready to leave, I'm folding up my laptop, and I'm about to walk out.
00:32:33.100 --> 00:32:54.569 Shakira Monet - Maple & Monroe Social Impact Think Tank: The client goes to the door, comes back and says, You know what I'm having a hard time sleeping. Is there anything that you can help me out with? And I was like, oh, the list. So I said, Oh, let me, you know, get back to you. So he leaves. I open up my laptop, and literally this list. These keys just
00:32:54.570 --> 00:33:12.529 Shakira Monet - Maple & Monroe Social Impact Think Tank: blow out. They just come. I'm just. There's no draft, there's no nothing. It just comes out literally as I'm like doing. The last key. The barista of the coffee shop says, You know, we're closing, and that's it. I close it down. It's done
00:33:14.330 --> 00:33:39.855 Shakira Monet - Maple & Monroe Social Impact Think Tank: later on. Originally I thought that it was going to be a list that I just shared with my clients and confidence something that, for example, that Coo says, oh, well, you know I need help with this, or and I would just send them the list just to support people privately. And then, when one day when I was having tea with a friend of mine who is a leader.
00:33:41.100 --> 00:33:43.529 Shakira Monet - Maple & Monroe Social Impact Think Tank: She said. No, that's not a list. It's a book.
00:33:43.710 --> 00:33:45.350 Shakira Monet - Maple & Monroe Social Impact Think Tank: You have to make it a book.
00:33:45.540 --> 00:33:49.639 Shakira Monet - Maple & Monroe Social Impact Think Tank: And then the process of changing it from a list to a book
00:33:50.620 --> 00:33:53.391 Shakira Monet - Maple & Monroe Social Impact Think Tank: that's a doozy that I'm sure that you understand.
00:33:53.700 --> 00:33:58.430 Clementina, Founder The Clementina Collective: I do understand. I do understand. I understand it, and it's doozy.
00:33:58.430 --> 00:34:03.040 Shakira Monet - Maple & Monroe Social Impact Think Tank: And it was so much, really, though, about just me.
00:34:03.360 --> 00:34:21.369 Shakira Monet - Maple & Monroe Social Impact Think Tank: about me and my discipline and my choices and those things. It was such a. The book created its own personal discovery for myself, and having to write it and flesh out that list and go through the entire process.
00:34:22.520 --> 00:34:25.790 Clementina, Founder The Clementina Collective: Well, that's the best. When that happens. I mean, that's the best
00:34:26.219 --> 00:34:39.499 Clementina, Founder The Clementina Collective: you know. A lot of people want to have everything figured out. But if there is no process of discovery, you know the reader feels that process of discovery, you know, and that's important. I think it's an important under talked about quality, of a book.
00:34:40.560 --> 00:34:59.880 Shakira Monet - Maple & Monroe Social Impact Think Tank: You know you're spot on. But in the process I've been feeling frustrated or like, I'm not moving fast enough, or things of that nature. But as the time passes, things that actually develop the book in so much more profound, beautiful ways even I've been. I've gotten
00:35:00.060 --> 00:35:06.800 Shakira Monet - Maple & Monroe Social Impact Think Tank: additional downloads that are now in the book, since you know the the initial transmission. And so
00:35:07.060 --> 00:35:32.790 Shakira Monet - Maple & Monroe Social Impact Think Tank: you know even this art, you know, if you're watching, you can see this art that's behind me. But the art in the book is art that I created almost a year later, after kind of that initial download. That was such a point of frustration. You know, I ended up lost in the woods, spoiler, alert, like, I ended up literally lost in the woods, in the mountains by myself
00:35:32.850 --> 00:35:36.645 Shakira Monet - Maple & Monroe Social Impact Think Tank: on my way to like a reception. And
00:35:37.400 --> 00:35:48.209 Shakira Monet - Maple & Monroe Social Impact Think Tank: Once I, because of this, that experience of me being lost in the woods by myself and that whole thing. It ended up creating this art, but it came out of the
00:35:48.640 --> 00:35:58.839 Shakira Monet - Maple & Monroe Social Impact Think Tank: the kind of push and pull in the black and the white of the whole experience of me just getting to, which was just to be, you know, a lovely ladies night
00:35:58.960 --> 00:36:23.269 Shakira Monet - Maple & Monroe Social Impact Think Tank: that created that, and having that conversation with my art director, she was like, well, you have to put the art in the book like you have. You have to put the story in the book, and you have to do that. So you're right over time. The development of it actually has added color and flavor and nuance to it, and elevated it from really what was just meant to be a list
00:36:23.340 --> 00:36:31.219 Shakira Monet - Maple & Monroe Social Impact Think Tank: for my leader clients and friends to something that's now I'm very clear meant to impact the world.
00:36:31.740 --> 00:36:37.629 Shakira Monet - Maple & Monroe Social Impact Think Tank: So let's talk about choice, which is key 9 at least. In this version it's key 9.
00:36:38.770 --> 00:36:46.240 Shakira Monet - Maple & Monroe Social Impact Think Tank: Every choice you make pulls you towards or away from an infinite amount of timelines.
00:36:47.370 --> 00:36:58.099 Shakira Monet - Maple & Monroe Social Impact Think Tank: We live in a holographic reality, co-created by you, source and the group consciousness. Yet your free will governs which timeline you experience.
00:36:58.830 --> 00:37:10.329 Shakira Monet - Maple & Monroe Social Impact Think Tank: however, illusions of powerlessness perpetuate mental slavery, causing people to relinquish their power to structures, and others.
00:37:11.310 --> 00:37:12.670 Shakira Monet - Maple & Monroe Social Impact Think Tank: Look at your life.
00:37:12.810 --> 00:37:18.520 Shakira Monet - Maple & Monroe Social Impact Think Tank: except that you made the choices that shaped it to be what it is good, bad, or indifferent.
00:37:19.010 --> 00:37:28.179 Shakira Monet - Maple & Monroe Social Impact Think Tank: purge, negative emotions, extending grace to yourself and others. As you realize you created from your present state
00:37:30.220 --> 00:37:36.999 Shakira Monet - Maple & Monroe Social Impact Think Tank: for those seeking a different outcome. Examine your choices, big and small, and start choosing differently.
00:37:37.730 --> 00:37:43.770 Shakira Monet - Maple & Monroe Social Impact Think Tank: It can help to begin at the end goal reverse engineering. The steps required.
00:37:43.880 --> 00:38:00.249 Shakira Monet - Maple & Monroe Social Impact Think Tank: Soon you'll face tough decisions that become defining moments, if not mindful. These moments can become roadblocks. As you realize, certain people, places, and behaviors must be released for your next timeline.
00:38:00.680 --> 00:38:10.259 Shakira Monet - Maple & Monroe Social Impact Think Tank: proceed with courage, releasing what no longer serves you from a place of gratitude. If you feel stuck or lost, speak to source and say, help
00:38:11.180 --> 00:38:12.140 Shakira Monet - Maple & Monroe Social Impact Think Tank: hell
00:38:13.400 --> 00:38:21.769 Shakira Monet - Maple & Monroe Social Impact Think Tank: and share your request, even if you don't know what help you need. Acknowledging. Your confusion is a powerful start.
00:38:21.890 --> 00:38:29.669 Shakira Monet - Maple & Monroe Social Impact Think Tank: because we have free will. Source won't stop us from self sabotaging or harming the collective
00:38:29.870 --> 00:38:35.110 Shakira Monet - Maple & Monroe Social Impact Think Tank: operate with wisdom, remembering each choice ripples outward.
00:38:35.300 --> 00:38:37.980 Shakira Monet - Maple & Monroe Social Impact Think Tank: that is, from the 1st section of choice.
00:38:38.570 --> 00:39:00.749 Shakira Monet - Maple & Monroe Social Impact Think Tank: We do, in fact, live in a free world reality, a free choice reality that is our free will. That is the thing that we do have in this experience, and because of that, that means that we can have hate or love. We can have passion and pleasure. We can have misery and everything in between
00:39:01.290 --> 00:39:02.480 Shakira Monet - Maple & Monroe Social Impact Think Tank: Clementina
00:39:02.640 --> 00:39:11.809 Shakira Monet - Maple & Monroe Social Impact Think Tank: you selected choice as one of the keys that really stood out to you? Why did you select it and share what stood out to you about it?
00:39:13.670 --> 00:39:21.020 Clementina, Founder The Clementina Collective: Yeah, I I chose it because well.
00:39:21.350 --> 00:39:36.670 Clementina, Founder The Clementina Collective: I had really hard choices to make, you know, and I think you know, before the break when we were. I'm going to come back around to answering that before the break when you were talking about, you know, the second time around, you know, I even started thinking, you know, there's a mastery.
00:39:36.940 --> 00:39:49.900 Clementina, Founder The Clementina Collective: you know, that comes with living. And when you start to realize that you know some of these components that you talk about both, you know, from daily habits, but also how we
00:39:50.420 --> 00:39:53.360 Clementina, Founder The Clementina Collective: how we engage with a spiritual awakening.
00:39:53.984 --> 00:40:16.159 Clementina, Founder The Clementina Collective: You know, I see people that I can recognize are on on a similar journey, but maybe farther along on the path than myself, and I watch them confront things even preemptively, or create rituals that you know, sort of make space and time
00:40:16.340 --> 00:40:26.089 Clementina, Founder The Clementina Collective: an intention around, you know. What do I have to let go of? That isn't serving me or so on and so forth, you know, in in my case, you know, it was really easy. I was.
00:40:26.896 --> 00:40:31.273 Clementina, Founder The Clementina Collective: You know, I'm I'm finishing my own book and
00:40:32.100 --> 00:40:37.780 Clementina, Founder The Clementina Collective: you know some of the the things that came up for me while I was writing. It were things that I had to.
00:40:37.940 --> 00:40:47.619 Clementina, Founder The Clementina Collective: you know, confront my family about. It was as if you know, they had a perception of my life that
00:40:47.760 --> 00:40:49.599 Clementina, Founder The Clementina Collective: wasn't true at all to me.
00:40:50.270 --> 00:40:58.610 Clementina, Founder The Clementina Collective: And you know standing up for myself. You know, meant the possibility that they wouldn't.
00:41:00.750 --> 00:41:03.070 Clementina, Founder The Clementina Collective: You know. Go along with it.
00:41:03.290 --> 00:41:11.049 Clementina, Founder The Clementina Collective: which is what happened, and I had to be, you know, courageous, as you say, and strong and and you know, let people go
00:41:11.603 --> 00:41:20.529 Clementina, Founder The Clementina Collective: but you know. So you know, and that's the thing a lot of people don't talk about, you know, with spiritual awakenings is, you know, you.
00:41:20.530 --> 00:41:42.909 Clementina, Founder The Clementina Collective: you lose people, and when you raise your frequency you lose people, and it, you know, in the most, when I'm the most well rested. And you know, when my frequency is highest, when I'm able to care for myself as much as I know that I need care. You know, I can look at things. It's just. It's just energies don't match anymore. It just
00:41:43.580 --> 00:41:54.292 Clementina, Founder The Clementina Collective: and right, and things just fall away. Things can just fall away, and and through the process of do of doing doing it. You know I have. I have
00:41:54.980 --> 00:42:21.089 Clementina, Founder The Clementina Collective: you know, discovered more grace around it. So I think that that's the reason why choice resonated with me so much is, I really think that's a big key that people don't really always understand. And when we were talking earlier, you know, I can see the arc. Maybe it's because it's part of what I need to do when I create books with people is you know, what's the arc of this transformation?
00:42:21.357 --> 00:42:28.319 Clementina, Founder The Clementina Collective: You know. But when we look at our lives, and we think that things are just happening to us. We're still in the victim consciousness and to.
00:42:28.340 --> 00:42:43.940 Clementina, Founder The Clementina Collective: you know, to transcend that we have to take radical responsibility, and we have to make hard choices, and we have to realize, and I will never forget the moment that I finally had a therapist that I was talking to, and I said.
00:42:43.980 --> 00:42:44.860 Clementina, Founder The Clementina Collective: You know.
00:42:46.120 --> 00:42:49.500 Clementina, Founder The Clementina Collective: But do I really have to give this up to get that.
00:42:51.180 --> 00:42:56.349 Clementina, Founder The Clementina Collective: really? And and he and I remember he was very clear and very, very.
00:42:56.350 --> 00:42:58.100 Shakira Monet - Maple & Monroe Social Impact Think Tank: I don't have my cake in either.
00:42:58.100 --> 00:43:08.229 Clementina, Founder The Clementina Collective: You know. Can I write? And he said, I can promise you that you know the book that you want to write, and the leader that you want to be in the world.
00:43:08.490 --> 00:43:10.820 Clementina, Founder The Clementina Collective: You cannot be. If you stay here.
00:43:11.700 --> 00:43:18.189 Clementina, Founder The Clementina Collective: you cannot, you cannot. These these 2 things don't go together. And it was harboring. It was crushing.
00:43:18.830 --> 00:43:21.330 Clementina, Founder The Clementina Collective: You know it was crushing
00:43:21.950 --> 00:43:48.439 Clementina, Founder The Clementina Collective: and especially when you know and my gosh! I know I already know I'm not. I don't claim to be, you know, the most like evolved as if I've reached some final state. I have a lot more evolving, you know, to do, but I can just like I can see people who are ahead on the path. You know. There are also people who refuse to get on the path, or who, you know, don't want to.
00:43:48.440 --> 00:43:49.790 Shakira Monet - Maple & Monroe Social Impact Think Tank: And that's their choice.
00:43:49.790 --> 00:43:51.609 Clementina, Founder The Clementina Collective: And that's their choice.
00:43:51.610 --> 00:43:52.190 Shakira Monet - Maple & Monroe Social Impact Think Tank: Cheers.
00:43:52.190 --> 00:43:57.589 Shakira Monet - Maple & Monroe Social Impact Think Tank: That's your choice absolutely on the path. Have to have grace for them.
00:43:57.590 --> 00:43:59.270 Shakira Monet - Maple & Monroe Social Impact Think Tank: Yes, so.
00:44:00.130 --> 00:44:17.080 Clementina, Founder The Clementina Collective: So I think choice stood out to me, because not only can I relate to it from my from my place, but I can see that a lot of people have a hard time with that one, you know they don't. They don't see that they still don't want to see that everything in their life
00:44:17.350 --> 00:44:22.772 Clementina, Founder The Clementina Collective: is has been their choice, and that they have choices, you know, to make
00:44:23.520 --> 00:44:30.279 Clementina, Founder The Clementina Collective: where they can make a choice. That is not, that would take them from one way of being
00:44:30.630 --> 00:44:33.109 Clementina, Founder The Clementina Collective: to another. You know way of being.
00:44:33.600 --> 00:44:37.340 Shakira Monet - Maple & Monroe Social Impact Think Tank: Absolutely. They're choosing the pain.
00:44:37.900 --> 00:44:39.300 Clementina, Founder The Clementina Collective: Yes, yes.
00:44:39.300 --> 00:44:45.459 Shakira Monet - Maple & Monroe Social Impact Think Tank: Using the pain. I mean you. You mentioned it. A couple of breaks back where you talked about
00:44:45.750 --> 00:44:57.350 Shakira Monet - Maple & Monroe Social Impact Think Tank: how a part of the current conditioning of this experience that we're having is that things must be painful and they must be hard, and they must be difficult. There's like this.
00:44:57.350 --> 00:45:19.760 Shakira Monet - Maple & Monroe Social Impact Think Tank: and it's almost like the the more painful it is. Somehow it's the better. Or there, you know, there's hazing. There's all these different things that you know. It's like we feel like. If it's not this way, then people almost don't value it right like, if they get it easy, it's almost like they don't even value it, or something like that. So you know, there's a conditioning.
00:45:20.540 --> 00:45:30.960 Shakira Monet - Maple & Monroe Social Impact Think Tank: Hear that people want to feel like things have to be hard, and they have to be painful, and it has to be difficult and to the point that if it's not, they will create it.
00:45:31.140 --> 00:45:32.520 Clementina, Founder The Clementina Collective: Yes, absolutely.
00:45:32.520 --> 00:45:35.670 Shakira Monet - Maple & Monroe Social Impact Think Tank: It will create the pain absolutely.
00:45:35.930 --> 00:45:41.716 Shakira Monet - Maple & Monroe Social Impact Think Tank: They will sabotage things, they will make them hard, you know. I often tell.
00:45:42.270 --> 00:45:58.509 Shakira Monet - Maple & Monroe Social Impact Think Tank: You know, my my children. I say, you know, we don't have to make things hard, right like when I'm working with people and things. I say, we don't have to make things hard. We can take the easy path. We don't have to make it hard, and I say there's more than enough hard things
00:45:59.030 --> 00:46:22.199 Shakira Monet - Maple & Monroe Social Impact Think Tank: choices down the road that we don't have to make this hard right? And so that's the thing that choice that people want things to be almost tumultuous to the point, that again. If things just start going too good. Some people feel like it's boring. They don't know what to do, and then they start doing things to just ruin it and create that chaos. There's an addiction to those frequencies.
00:46:22.560 --> 00:46:24.570 Clementina, Founder The Clementina Collective: There is an addiction.
00:46:24.750 --> 00:46:25.260 Shakira Monet - Maple & Monroe Social Impact Think Tank: Those 3.
00:46:25.260 --> 00:46:26.769 Clementina, Founder The Clementina Collective: It's also, yeah.
00:46:26.770 --> 00:46:31.980 Shakira Monet - Maple & Monroe Social Impact Think Tank: Anger, and and for some of us you kind of spoke to your family
00:46:32.420 --> 00:46:38.180 Shakira Monet - Maple & Monroe Social Impact Think Tank: for some of us. It's so embedded in our DNA. It's so coded ancestrally
00:46:38.410 --> 00:46:48.489 Shakira Monet - Maple & Monroe Social Impact Think Tank: for generations that we literally feel addicted to these emotions and frequencies of pain, anger, hurt jealousy.
00:46:48.490 --> 00:46:49.629 Clementina, Founder The Clementina Collective: We've always done it.
00:46:51.300 --> 00:46:53.200 Shakira Monet - Maple & Monroe Social Impact Think Tank: And that if you
00:46:53.350 --> 00:47:16.180 Shakira Monet - Maple & Monroe Social Impact Think Tank: don't have it, then you almost feel like you're missing it, and you have to create it, or you kind of alluded to it is that well, if you're this, you know, free child, going around smiling with joy. And all these things and your family is not operating in that frequency. It's like you're doing something wrong. And they could even, you know, to pull you back down into frequency.
00:47:16.180 --> 00:47:17.759 Clementina, Founder The Clementina Collective: Yeah, that's a real.
00:47:18.490 --> 00:47:23.230 Clementina, Founder The Clementina Collective: It's the crabs in the bucket, right? No, if you, if you put a bunch of crabs in the bucket
00:47:23.360 --> 00:47:27.320 Clementina, Founder The Clementina Collective: and one crab tries to get out. The other crabs will
00:47:27.900 --> 00:47:50.159 Clementina, Founder The Clementina Collective: bring it back in. I mean, it's a real phenomenon, right? But it they use that a lot of times to explain these family dynamics right where, you know, it's kind of like it's like corporate, too. Right like this is the way we've always done it. And we we don't even realize that. You know, we have choices and we can decide. And you know, it's
00:47:50.390 --> 00:47:59.760 Clementina, Founder The Clementina Collective: yeah. It's it's, you know. Their their addiction is involved. You know, habit, just conditioning. Yeah.
00:48:00.140 --> 00:48:13.389 Shakira Monet - Maple & Monroe Social Impact Think Tank: And you mentioned this, too, and then we'll go to break. You mentioned just the power of the people around you, and and letting them go and letting that go. It's the people, places, things and ideas.
00:48:13.650 --> 00:48:23.980 Shakira Monet - Maple & Monroe Social Impact Think Tank: the choice of letting them go to go to higher and and being okay with it. In the beginning it was painful to have to let people go. Now. I.
00:48:24.720 --> 00:48:25.980 Clementina, Founder The Clementina Collective: Yeah, you're like.
00:48:25.980 --> 00:48:34.730 Shakira Monet - Maple & Monroe Social Impact Think Tank: Now, it's like, we're no longer in alignment. You know, we have creative differences. It's okay.
00:48:35.030 --> 00:48:36.450 Clementina, Founder The Clementina Collective: It is, okay. Right?
00:48:36.450 --> 00:48:48.569 Shakira Monet - Maple & Monroe Social Impact Think Tank: It's so it's okay. It's for the best. In the end. It's for the best. I'm no longer afraid of letting people go right. And that's that's a part. Non-attachment.
00:48:48.570 --> 00:48:49.300 Clementina, Founder The Clementina Collective: Not a test.
00:48:49.300 --> 00:48:56.190 Shakira Monet - Maple & Monroe Social Impact Think Tank: About a mastery in life, non-attachment, no attachment to anything, but it creates
00:48:56.340 --> 00:49:05.529 Shakira Monet - Maple & Monroe Social Impact Think Tank: blessings and abundance all around. So we're going to take our commercial break now, and when we come back we will talk about truth.
00:49:05.690 --> 00:49:06.710 Shakira Monet - Maple & Monroe Social Impact Think Tank: Stay tuned.
00:50:45.490 --> 00:50:55.180 Shakira Monet - Maple & Monroe Social Impact Think Tank: Hello, and welcome back to the happy spot. I am your guest host, Shakira Johnson, author of Over the Veil, and I have the divine
00:50:55.410 --> 00:51:04.220 Shakira Monet - Maple & Monroe Social Impact Think Tank: Clementina, if you could see her. She is divine in this shade of orange yellow. It's very beautiful, very radiant.
00:51:04.510 --> 00:51:09.499 Shakira Monet - Maple & Monroe Social Impact Think Tank: I have her with me today. Welcome back, and thank you so much for being here.
00:51:09.500 --> 00:51:11.160 Clementina, Founder The Clementina Collective: Thank you. Shakira.
00:51:12.330 --> 00:51:19.100 Shakira Monet - Maple & Monroe Social Impact Think Tank: So one of the other keys that you said really resonated with you was Key 10, which is truth.
00:51:20.020 --> 00:51:29.429 Shakira Monet - Maple & Monroe Social Impact Think Tank: And when we think about truth. Many of the things that you think you know or believe may be factually inaccurate or incomplete.
00:51:29.640 --> 00:51:36.999 Shakira Monet - Maple & Monroe Social Impact Think Tank: Often these mistruths are intentional, used to mislead, manipulate, or prevent ascension.
00:51:37.180 --> 00:51:43.979 Shakira Monet - Maple & Monroe Social Impact Think Tank: Other times they may arise from ignorance, false memories, or incompetence.
00:51:44.680 --> 00:51:53.430 Shakira Monet - Maple & Monroe Social Impact Think Tank: Any external source of information other than direct download is at best a narrative or perception of truth.
00:51:53.750 --> 00:51:58.559 Shakira Monet - Maple & Monroe Social Impact Think Tank: Even downloads need time to be fully processed and decoded
00:51:59.270 --> 00:52:10.869 Shakira Monet - Maple & Monroe Social Impact Think Tank: in our current reality. Master communicators and wordsmiths are employed to shape narratives and build false histories leading to widespread belief in lies.
00:52:11.150 --> 00:52:19.669 Shakira Monet - Maple & Monroe Social Impact Think Tank: If you are not an eyewitness, it is best to focus on larger themes of stories or retellings, instead of taking every detail as fact.
00:52:20.110 --> 00:52:25.540 Shakira Monet - Maple & Monroe Social Impact Think Tank: Dogmatic conflicts over details often cause confusion and division.
00:52:25.650 --> 00:52:36.980 Shakira Monet - Maple & Monroe Social Impact Think Tank: meditate research, contemplate and test the information shared with you, so you can form your own understanding. When you think you know a thing, dig deeper
00:52:37.510 --> 00:52:46.449 Shakira Monet - Maple & Monroe Social Impact Think Tank: practice, critical thinking, and ask for truth to be revealed. Clementina, you selected truth as one of your favorite
00:52:46.590 --> 00:52:47.570 Shakira Monet - Maple & Monroe Social Impact Think Tank: peas
00:52:47.700 --> 00:52:56.949 Shakira Monet - Maple & Monroe Social Impact Think Tank: share. As we get ready to conclude our podcast why you selected that and how you feel like it can help those in business.
00:52:58.330 --> 00:53:03.570 Clementina, Founder The Clementina Collective: Yeah, I mean, I think I see it all the time in my work. One of the things I get to do is.
00:53:05.330 --> 00:53:08.140 Clementina, Founder The Clementina Collective: you know, gently
00:53:08.870 --> 00:53:29.890 Clementina, Founder The Clementina Collective: encourage people. To tell the truth, they don't think they're lying. They sometimes don't know they're lying, and I think the truth carries a frequency for me when I read the truth. When I hear the truth I can cry. I you know, maybe I laugh.
00:53:30.406 --> 00:53:35.759 Clementina, Founder The Clementina Collective: You know it carries a frequency, and you can't deny that the energy doesn't lie.
00:53:36.353 --> 00:53:47.259 Clementina, Founder The Clementina Collective: And I think that it can be hard. As I said, I'm not. There's lying. I'm not even going there, you know, but I'm talking about. Even
00:53:47.350 --> 00:54:06.210 Clementina, Founder The Clementina Collective: even a person who has no intent to lie can sometimes be lying to themselves or not telling the whole truth or trying to protect someone or and I don't think there's any. You know, we taught all these things that business leaders today are talking about authenticity and vulnerability, and
00:54:06.320 --> 00:54:29.719 Clementina, Founder The Clementina Collective: you know that are so important, and none of those are possible without knowing your truth. And and I love your suggestions for finding the truth because they're varied, and it's a wide net. And those are all you know. Tactics I imply and encourage my people to use when they're trying to find their truth, you know.
00:54:29.720 --> 00:54:38.990 Clementina, Founder The Clementina Collective: And again, I think writing is a great place to work it out, you know, and and try to discover it. And you know.
00:54:39.414 --> 00:54:48.760 Clementina, Founder The Clementina Collective: There's as you said, it's important to fact check to research, to meditate to. But it's also important. You know. People will
00:54:49.210 --> 00:54:52.159 Clementina, Founder The Clementina Collective: try to take you away from your own truth.
00:54:52.330 --> 00:54:52.890 Shakira Monet - Maple & Monroe Social Impact Think Tank: No.
00:54:52.890 --> 00:55:14.669 Clementina, Founder The Clementina Collective: And the world will take you away from your own truth. And so it's really, really and without that, what do you have? I mean talk about choices, you know. How do you make a choice when you're not acting? In truth, you know, when you don't know your own truth, and I would have to say. I don't think there's anything really more important than
00:55:15.431 --> 00:55:27.488 Clementina, Founder The Clementina Collective: being able to stand in your truth, you know, and and from there be able to recognize that someone else who is actually, I have 2 sons. They're very different.
00:55:28.960 --> 00:55:35.150 Clementina, Founder The Clementina Collective: sometimes, you know, we're all right there, and everybody's perception is different.
00:55:35.290 --> 00:55:46.630 Clementina, Founder The Clementina Collective: you know, slightly different, and I can respect that. You know. Each of them filters every single scenario through their little self, and their little selves are different.
00:55:47.096 --> 00:56:09.310 Clementina, Founder The Clementina Collective: Right? And so that doesn't mean one of them is lying. It means but from that I can see where you know how they see the world where their values are, where their hurts have been, where you know where they want to make the world a better place. You know I can see so much from that, and everybody has a right to their own truth. And
00:56:09.860 --> 00:56:27.179 Clementina, Founder The Clementina Collective: you know, for some of us, especially if we come from places where we were gaslit or emotionally manipulated, or, you know, told our truth didn't matter. You know. It can take a lot of practice, and it can feel like a really scary thing.
00:56:27.800 --> 00:56:29.800 Clementina, Founder The Clementina Collective: To stand in our truth.
00:56:29.990 --> 00:56:43.609 Clementina, Founder The Clementina Collective: So it's not a given, and it's so so important. So I want to thank you for encouraging people to to do all these these amazing things like, make good choices and find their truth.
00:56:44.320 --> 00:56:57.530 Shakira Monet - Maple & Monroe Social Impact Think Tank: Well, it's a blessing, and thank you so much for joining me in this conversation. Jack is back, and he is going to take us out, Clementina, really quick! Where can people find you? How can people find you.
00:56:57.970 --> 00:57:08.830 Clementina, Founder The Clementina Collective: At the Clementina Collective, and they can. All my info is there. They can search it up and email me, Clementina, at clementacollective.com.
00:57:09.410 --> 00:57:16.550 Shakira Monet - Maple & Monroe Social Impact Think Tank: And if anybody wants to learn more about over the veil you can visit overthevail.com, Jack, take us home.
00:57:17.540 --> 00:57:25.110 JACK THOMAS : Ladies, I'm so grateful you touch upon so many things that I had envisioned at the happy spot.
00:57:25.360 --> 00:57:29.540 JACK THOMAS : I'm sitting today at 44th Street and 9th Avenue in New York City.
00:57:29.700 --> 00:57:45.669 JACK THOMAS : and I remember as a kid driving with my dad on a truck, going into the places where you could buy tools and equipment on how to fix things with cars, and how I see the world today from a global perspective, is fixing the mind, the brain via truth.
00:57:45.830 --> 00:57:51.539 JACK THOMAS : And so I'm just going to read a little bit of some things that are where we are in the happy spot.
00:57:51.710 --> 00:57:53.790 JACK THOMAS : and it's the happy spot.
00:57:53.920 --> 00:57:58.979 JACK THOMAS : It's where your physical reality, honest, potential and soul's purpose, are one.
00:57:59.110 --> 00:58:03.060 JACK THOMAS : The future work of the future of work is happy.
00:58:03.460 --> 00:58:16.030 JACK THOMAS : We at the happy spot we help executives change employee behavior. So we made an announcement earlier, Shakira, we would like to contract 30 of your workbooks. We're going to be working with the happy spot.
00:58:16.230 --> 00:58:22.559 JACK THOMAS : We're measuring a human score. We're creating a benchmark. I've been working on this for about 14 years
00:58:23.150 --> 00:58:34.750 JACK THOMAS : and underwriting the happiness we are just grateful and blessed to have the exchange. The 2 of you did not know each other really prior till today, but you come from
00:58:34.870 --> 00:59:01.479 JACK THOMAS : 2 different vantage points of across the water. One's in Jersey. One's in New York, but as women, as leaders, you come globally and say the thing that we, as men, need to hear in our controlling dynamic and allowing women to lead. So we can learn from you so grateful to have you here, the vision for the happy spot. It's global behavior. Change one executive at a time.
00:59:01.540 --> 00:59:06.299 JACK THOMAS : And we're going to be rolling out and ask Onsar, he's my partner.
00:59:07.110 --> 00:59:24.110 JACK THOMAS : He is an international behaviorist, and there'll be further ongoing. So I just want to say, Thank you, ladies, for just being yourselves and and really resonating with your children, because it is the intergenerational oral wealth
00:59:24.380 --> 00:59:35.420 JACK THOMAS : that really is important for the group that I'm working with, and just hearing that. Thank you so much. We're going to turn one final piece, Shakira. If you have one
00:59:35.420 --> 00:59:36.030 JACK THOMAS : final thing that
00:59:36.030 --> 00:59:41.779 JACK THOMAS : you'd like to lead us with today, and we'll we'll move through the end of our show.
00:59:44.080 --> 00:59:46.960 Shakira Monet - Maple & Monroe Social Impact Think Tank: Really it's time for everyone to make a choice.
00:59:47.330 --> 00:59:55.660 Shakira Monet - Maple & Monroe Social Impact Think Tank: The time has come. We see in the world where we are. You cannot turn away. You cannot put your head in the sand and has reached
00:59:55.900 --> 01:00:20.890 Shakira Monet - Maple & Monroe Social Impact Think Tank: critical mass, and that is just really calling and pushing everyone to make their choice. You get your choice, but it is time to make it. I invite you to join me and Clementina and Jack and others over the veil, and you see the energy and the frequency that we are on, and we are happy to guide you on that process. So Namaste and
01:00:21.090 --> 01:00:22.459 Shakira Monet - Maple & Monroe Social Impact Think Tank: God bless you.
01:00:23.680 --> 01:00:24.620 JACK THOMAS : No mistake.
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