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EPISODE SUMMARY:
The Audience will learn where Frank has been and where he wants to take the show forward.
In this episode, Sam Liebowitz Executive Producer of Talkradio.nyc will have a conversation with Frank about where he has been the last 4 months and the challenges that he is overcoming as he continues to Advocate for Healthcare in 2025.
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Frank R. Harrison returns to Frank About Health with renewed purpose, transforming the show into a stronger platform for healthcare advocacy based on his personal and professional journey through illness, caregiving, and system navigation. In a powerful role reversal, Frank becomes the guest while producer Sam Liebowitz interviews him, diving into Frank’s evolution from addressing epilepsy stigma to confronting broader public health challenges like COVID-19 and Alzheimer's caregiving. Drawing on insights from past guests and his own lived experience, Frank emphasizes the critical need for emotional resilience, self-advocacy, and truth-telling in a healthcare system often clouded by misinformation and burnout.
In this deeply personal segment, Frank R. Harrison recounts a turbulent series of events—from the sudden withdrawal of key partnerships following political shifts, to the emotional and logistical burden of advocating for a cousin with late-stage Alzheimer's—all while grappling with the unexpected passing of his close friend and frequent guest, Reatha Gray. Amidst systemic frustrations and personal heartbreak, Frank illustrates the real-world challenges caregivers and healthcare advocates face when navigating institutional barriers and emotional burnout. Through it all, Frank finds renewed purpose and guidance in Ritha’s enduring influence, reigniting his mission to advance transparent, inclusive, and community-driven healthcare media.
Despite enduring another setback—the elimination of his paid caregiving role due to shifting regulations—Frank R. Harrison channeled loss into growth, leading to the unexpected formation of his new venture, Health-E Media. A timely reconnection with Fordham University introduced fresh opportunities, including his participation in an AI business case study exploring how podcast and healthcare content can be reimagined and scaled. With the spiritual influence of Reatha Gray still guiding him, Frank is now doubling down on his mission to deliver raw, transparent healthcare narratives that empower listeners to reclaim agency over their well-being.
As Frank About Health enters its 3.0 chapter, Frank R. Harrison plans to spotlight urgent, often underdiscussed topics like grief, narcissistic abuse, neurological disorders, and AI’s emerging role in healthcare—all grounded in personal experience and professional advocacy. His renewed mission is to transform the show into an educational, theme-driven platform, backed by his new venture, Health-E Media, and amplified through upcoming collaborations, local focus, and a planned digital portal to foster community engagement. With deeper discernment around guest selection and a commitment to authenticity, Frank is setting the stage to empower audiences with truthful, practical insight into modern health challenges.
00:00:51.350 --> 00:00:52.520 Frank R. Harrison: Do I start talking?
00:00:52.740 --> 00:00:53.470 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Yes.
00:00:54.230 --> 00:00:55.120 Frank R. Harrison: Okay.
00:00:55.670 --> 00:01:15.180 Frank R. Harrison: everybody welcome back to Frank about health. That is still the title of the show, even though I would say that for the purposes of today's episode. It is version 3.0. Why do I say that? Well, I 1st came to talkradio dot Nyc. Then known in 2016 as talking alternative broadcasting
00:01:15.330 --> 00:01:21.270 Frank R. Harrison: to provide you a whole stigma removal process on the illness known as epilepsy.
00:01:21.450 --> 00:01:39.450 Frank R. Harrison: Then, after the covid pandemic hit our shores in 2021. I came back to help advocate for people living with Covid, or having to prevent it, get their vaccine, so forth and so on. But it mushroomed into a 3 and a half year journey that allowed me to really find my footing as a healthcare advocate
00:01:39.840 --> 00:01:43.919 Frank R. Harrison: with a lot of challenges that you will learn more about today by my special guest.
00:01:44.050 --> 00:01:50.300 Frank R. Harrison: the conscious consultant, Sam Leibowitz, who was also the executive producer of Talkradio dot Nyc.
00:01:50.480 --> 00:02:16.739 Frank R. Harrison: We're now going to show how I've used those 2 iterations of Frank about health, and how I intend to make the show move forward, to be more forceful and more of a fighter program for a lot of people that continue to unfortunately be misinformed or don't realize the agency that they have when it comes to their health care but a lot to be said in such a way that it requires that for this particular episode
00:02:16.880 --> 00:02:18.670 Frank R. Harrison: I'm going to become the guest.
00:02:18.820 --> 00:02:21.239 Frank R. Harrison: and my guest is going to become the host.
00:02:21.440 --> 00:02:27.080 Frank R. Harrison: It's a little turnaround. But actually, I do remember the very 1st time I appeared on any
00:02:27.160 --> 00:02:38.540 Frank R. Harrison: talkradio dot Nyc. Production was by being a guest on the conscious consultant, and he welcomed me then as part of the family that, I'm happy to say, wow! Almost
00:02:38.600 --> 00:02:57.309 Frank R. Harrison: 9 years later I am still part of the family, and I want to come home, but I kind of need to be reintroduced and repurposed, and I just want to be for my audience out there that continue to listen even while I've been away. I just want to show you I'm back, and I'm going to be better. So that, all being said, Sam.
00:02:57.360 --> 00:03:10.740 Frank R. Harrison: I don't need to introduce you. You can talk all about yourself during the show, and that in itself will just inform everybody that not just this show and your show, but all of the other shows that are on the network, including those that have joined since I was last here.
00:03:11.010 --> 00:03:17.049 Frank R. Harrison: Talk radio is going to be even more powerful in the coming years. So I'm looking forward to our conversation
00:03:17.460 --> 00:03:33.320 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Wonderful wonderful, Frank. So I mean, I do want to get into sort of what what transpired between when you took your hiatus. And now. But before we get there, you know you talk about being a health advocate. What does being a health advocate mean to you?
00:03:34.920 --> 00:03:43.270 Frank R. Harrison: Well, I guess you could say there's 3 levels that I look at it at emotionally number one, which is why I do the show, so I can speak about it
00:03:43.720 --> 00:04:04.470 Frank R. Harrison: Legally, I have a certification in it from Cornell University, and I want to apply it wherever the demand is, and I have been in one case unfortunate to be using it. In the case of my cousin, which I know my audience knows the whole story on that, but on a profitable or business case. I'm actually a paid caregiver for my father.
00:04:04.570 --> 00:04:17.049 Frank R. Harrison: you know, who's been recovering from cancer. So there's the professional and the emotional component. And then, more importantly, the psychological and mental health and sense of ownership. I, as an epileptic individual.
00:04:17.390 --> 00:04:34.039 Frank R. Harrison: have always known what it's like to be marginalized or scapegoated, or less than I'm very smart, so I'm able to detect those individuals or institutions that do that, and I work within it. But it is exhausting.
00:04:34.180 --> 00:04:37.649 Frank R. Harrison: So when I say advocate, I mean fighter.
00:04:37.770 --> 00:04:39.680 Frank R. Harrison: I mean, let's get to the truth.
00:04:39.950 --> 00:04:42.100 Frank R. Harrison: Let's stop the Bs.
00:04:42.663 --> 00:04:43.530 Frank R. Harrison: You know
00:04:43.530 --> 00:04:44.260 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Right.
00:04:44.260 --> 00:04:54.679 Frank R. Harrison: As you notice, I didn't issue a disclaimer, because I'm going to say everything. That's a matter of fact, you know. But I think what I'm also noticing is that
00:04:55.340 --> 00:05:04.760 Frank R. Harrison: I I look at the last show that I did. I was kind of sundowning it, as is a term I used on the actual show, but it was for the holidays.
00:05:05.390 --> 00:05:11.309 Frank R. Harrison: It was also dark outside. We didn't have daylight savings time yet, and I was anticipating coming back in 6 weeks.
00:05:11.890 --> 00:05:19.030 Frank R. Harrison: and then literally, within a week or 2 after that last show, everything that I had been working with
00:05:19.650 --> 00:05:27.550 Frank R. Harrison: was falling apart piece by piece by piece, and I didn't know. I mean I got the paranoid side of me saying.
00:05:27.690 --> 00:05:31.390 Frank R. Harrison: what's happening. They don't want me to move forward with
00:05:31.690 --> 00:05:43.390 Frank R. Harrison: this project or that partnership, or my plans for 2025 or I could internalize it, focus on what the opportunity is.
00:05:43.660 --> 00:05:50.249 Frank R. Harrison: And I did see some opportunities from it, and I started pivoting. But then it required more time
00:05:50.570 --> 00:05:58.010 Frank R. Harrison: away from the show, so I can repackage and repurpose my original intentions. So it was a push-pull
00:05:58.160 --> 00:06:12.400 Frank R. Harrison: thing going on, and I felt a little bit out of control. If it wasn't for your support, especially for the support of Ritha Gray, which is, I guess, something we'll cover later on in the show, but it was also for the support of
00:06:12.630 --> 00:06:33.440 Frank R. Harrison: I mean, I have a therapist, I mean living your life with epilepsy. You kind of need one, you know, but at the same time I was also able to rely on a lot of the individuals that were previous guests on Frank about health, and communicate to them about what was going on, and get guidance and direction. And I'm giving a special shout out to Emily Schulman, your right hand
00:06:33.600 --> 00:06:36.489 Frank R. Harrison: wing woman, whatever you want to call her, I mean.
00:06:36.650 --> 00:06:52.000 Frank R. Harrison: even just recently I was at the lawyer meeting that I needed to have a year ago, but she really was on top of the game in helping us advocate for the documentary project that I can't believe has been 15 months ago when we started production, but.
00:06:52.240 --> 00:06:57.030 Frank R. Harrison: thanks to her and, thanks to my lawyer, this will see the light of day. By the summertime
00:06:57.710 --> 00:06:58.280 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Wonderful.
00:06:58.280 --> 00:07:03.670 Frank R. Harrison: Way it was. It was a push pull situation going on, not planned.
00:07:03.920 --> 00:07:16.879 Frank R. Harrison: but it was repositioning me, for I, you know friends have said, you're being repositioned for greatness. I want to see the proof of that, because I am burnt out. You can only imagine how burned out anyone goes through this
00:07:17.110 --> 00:07:23.449 Frank R. Harrison: or or when they're going through such changes unexpected during holiday time.
00:07:23.560 --> 00:07:30.060 Frank R. Harrison: ripping up your initial plans, and then you're having to reposition everything and still have your wits about you.
00:07:30.060 --> 00:07:45.309 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Right. So I'm curious. We'll get into what some of those changes are. What were some of those rugs that got pulled out from underneath you. But I'm curious, because you mentioned that, like former guests on the show gave you a lot of support. So I'm curious
00:07:45.500 --> 00:08:13.350 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: on your show over the 3 and a half years you've been doing it like what topics or what things did you learn that really supported you through this very challenging time? Because that could be of interest to the listeners of what they can do to support themselves through a challenging time. So what I don't know kinds of practices, what modalities, what what kinds of things were you exposed to because of your show that really supported you and served you during that time?
00:08:13.850 --> 00:08:19.369 Frank R. Harrison: That's a beautiful question, because already 7 names came up when you, when you asked me it
00:08:19.370 --> 00:08:21.029 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: At a time, one at a time.
00:08:21.030 --> 00:08:22.900 Frank R. Harrison: Callie Alpert was number one
00:08:23.570 --> 00:08:30.629 Frank R. Harrison: She was on my show last summer. I believe. I think it was the last show before my summer hiatus, and she talked about interviewing.
00:08:30.850 --> 00:08:51.470 Frank R. Harrison: and I literally went on an interview with her, and we started agreeing to work together. But because of my putting off things we were going to start in March. We're now going to start in May. So I felt that she became a coach. Evan messman, another major person that I already was doing nutrition counseling with him, to begin with.
00:08:51.600 --> 00:08:53.759 Frank R. Harrison: but he was always
00:08:53.910 --> 00:09:04.350 Frank R. Harrison: focusing on my neurological pathways, and how much agency I really have. But I couldn't see it, because I guess you probably know from doing a show. You're always
00:09:04.670 --> 00:09:18.070 Frank R. Harrison: feeding information outward, not just to your guests, but to your audience, that in some ways you're actually losing sight of yourself in the moment I mean, I finish a show and I'll watch it back. And I go. Did I really ask that question.
00:09:18.190 --> 00:09:42.410 Frank R. Harrison: I guess I guess sometimes you know the part of your brain that is, that is, on autopilot after after a number of episodes that you've done it just knows how to carry the game on autopilot for you while you're still trying to monitor. Are we ready for a break yet? Is the volume working so forth, and so on. So the 3rd one was Maury Zelkovich.
00:09:42.670 --> 00:09:44.350 Frank R. Harrison: for the morey method.
00:09:44.530 --> 00:09:49.509 Frank R. Harrison: I had a conversation with him about AI the day I found out Ritha Gray
00:09:49.830 --> 00:09:52.229 Frank R. Harrison: had been had a stroke and a heart attack.
00:09:52.350 --> 00:10:03.459 Frank R. Harrison: The very moment that we were watching the documentary together. I get in a text message from her husband, saying, she's in the hospital on a respirator
00:10:03.920 --> 00:10:10.980 Frank R. Harrison: the very moment I'm watching the scene in the documentary which I know you've had a chance to see now where she and Betty Whiter
00:10:11.070 --> 00:10:37.079 Frank R. Harrison: are clicking on big jugs of wine together, and they're saying we're going to live forever. And I get that text right at that very moment, so I could tell you what I learned from that is ownership of your intuition ownership. That's a conscious awakening. That was an awakening moment that there's some connection I had with Ritha going back 12 years that allowed me to feel, just by watching a scene
00:10:37.400 --> 00:10:39.019 Frank R. Harrison: that something was happening.
00:10:39.500 --> 00:10:45.709 Frank R. Harrison: So I have become, I would say, and I and I hope it comes across in my future episodes of frank about health.
00:10:45.990 --> 00:10:55.759 Frank R. Harrison: I'm more in tune with how I feel about the moment, or even the person. So I'm going to be more discriminatory, not discriminatory is not the right word, not in this day and age, discerning
00:10:55.760 --> 00:10:56.940 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Discerning.
00:10:56.940 --> 00:11:00.169 Frank R. Harrison: Discerning about who comes on the show
00:11:00.170 --> 00:11:00.560 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Good.
00:11:00.560 --> 00:11:08.819 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: I mean 95% of the time. They've been great people, Phyllis Quinlan, another person. She was my co-host for over 40 episodes
00:11:09.050 --> 00:11:20.600 Frank R. Harrison: I'm I'm right now grappling about having her come back next week or the week after, when she has time. I want to do a Ritha gray tribute episode with her, just like Ritha myself. And Phyllis did a Betty white tribute episode. So
00:11:21.503 --> 00:11:43.660 Frank R. Harrison: I have to. I have to get a hold of her. So that's part of the disadvantage of not having been part of the network. For the last 4 months. I haven't been doing the prep, you know, to be able to get episode summaries out to call the right people to book shows in advance. I mean, I'll be honest with you. I don't have any shows prepared for the next 11 weeks. I'm going to probably be spending a very busy weekend
00:11:44.130 --> 00:11:58.379 Frank R. Harrison: pre-booking everybody. I mean the worst case scenario. I'll do a show by by myself, and maybe I'll work out a clip montage based on a current topic. I won't do an old episode. It won't be a rerun. I'll be live and in person, but
00:11:58.590 --> 00:12:06.939 Frank R. Harrison: in particular, like if I want to talk about Alzheimer's disease, which I really do. I also spent the 4 months putting my cousin in a nursing home
00:12:07.110 --> 00:12:07.770 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: I know.
00:12:08.290 --> 00:12:30.059 Frank R. Harrison: And that's not even my legal right. I'm not next of kin. I'm a cousin. So there were lawyers involved. There was family squabbles involved, and not to mention the fact that the only status I held was healthcare proxy at Nyu Langone. Health because of my certificate at Cornell University. That kind of goes back to the advocate question you asked me, but
00:12:30.480 --> 00:12:49.180 Frank R. Harrison: it burnt me out. I would even forget my own name. I mean, I would sleep for 15 h. It really took a lot out of me. So that would be another reason why I relied on the individuals that have been on Frank about health to prop me up and say, Well, what's really happening here? You know?
00:12:49.666 --> 00:12:53.610 Frank R. Harrison: There are other names that I thought of George Ann Dow. She hasn't been on the
00:12:53.610 --> 00:12:54.360 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Work in a couple
00:12:54.360 --> 00:12:57.870 Frank R. Harrison: Years, but I remember when she came on the show and prayed
00:12:58.000 --> 00:13:03.900 Frank R. Harrison: for my friend Solange Pilisota, and her husband's heart surgery that was going on. So I started praying.
00:13:03.900 --> 00:13:04.500 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Don't know
00:13:04.500 --> 00:13:10.170 Frank R. Harrison: And thinking. I even watched the episode. So I would look at the catalog sometimes for inspiration.
00:13:10.340 --> 00:13:14.054 Frank R. Harrison: You know. I see we're about to take a break, so I guess
00:13:14.560 --> 00:13:17.280 Frank R. Harrison: Is there any part of that question I left out, or would you
00:13:17.280 --> 00:13:31.139 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: I think you you kind of bled through into like the next couple of questions. But how about when we, when we come back from break. Why don't we just start to go through sort of chronologically.
00:13:31.210 --> 00:13:51.400 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: What were all the challenges that started to hit you? You already mentioned some of them involving Ritha. But but like what were the things, one by one, that started to get you to realize that 2025 was not going to look like anything like what you thought it was going to look like. And and from my perspective, it's kind of like
00:13:51.490 --> 00:14:07.760 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: everything being washed away. So you're starting off with a blank canvas. And so you can recreate Frank about health in in whatever way that you want to, without any preconceptions or notions. So why don't we do that when we get back from the break? Okay.
00:14:07.760 --> 00:14:09.800 Frank R. Harrison: Absolutely look forward to it.
00:14:09.830 --> 00:14:26.470 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: All right. You're listening to Frank. You're listening to Frank about health here on Talkradio dot Nyc. Your normal host is Frank Harrison. I am stepping in this week to interview Frank, and my name is Sam Lebowitz, the conscious consultant, and we'll be right back
00:14:26.760 --> 00:14:28.190 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: to continue this show
00:14:28.450 --> 00:14:29.850 Frank R. Harrison: Alright! Seeing a few
00:16:12.220 --> 00:16:15.000 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And welcome back to Frank about health.
00:16:15.570 --> 00:16:22.739 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: We're here this time interviewing your normal host, Frank Harrison, about
00:16:23.050 --> 00:16:43.949 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: what's been going on since, he went on, hiatus last year, and this new iteration of Frank about health. So, Frank, let's let's start talking about it. You mentioned earlier that you felt like one thing after another started getting taken away from you. Take us through us, through it chronologically.
00:16:44.110 --> 00:16:45.020 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Sure. What?
00:16:45.020 --> 00:16:55.840 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: What are the things that started to happen that made you realize, oh, my God, like this is not what I expected. Things are shifting and changing. 2025 is going to be completely different than I thought.
00:16:56.780 --> 00:17:01.909 Frank R. Harrison: Well, 1st and foremost, without getting political. I know this is not the place to do that.
00:17:02.100 --> 00:17:10.050 Frank R. Harrison: The day after election day my heart was palpitating a mile a minute when I woke up and found out that you know who won the Presidency.
00:17:10.260 --> 00:17:24.080 Frank R. Harrison: Now that wasn't the problem so much, because I would assume a lot of individuals would be panicked for various reasons. However, that very same day, 4 h later, I receive a phone call
00:17:24.230 --> 00:17:29.489 Frank R. Harrison: from my strategic partner at the time which I'm leaving nameless for now. But you know who that is.
00:17:29.940 --> 00:17:47.299 Frank R. Harrison: telling me that they've decided to disinvite myself and my business partner, Jose Dennis, from coming down to their executive retreat in January to present the documentary that we painstakingly worked on myself, Emily and Jessica.
00:17:47.570 --> 00:17:54.579 Frank R. Harrison: and not only that they funded the project. So it blew my mind that the reason why they were
00:17:54.700 --> 00:18:01.420 Frank R. Harrison: it can feel rejecting. But the reason why they were disinviting us was because
00:18:01.600 --> 00:18:10.070 Frank R. Harrison: we were from a blue state, and we represented healthcare ideas that they no longer subscribe to. Given the
00:18:10.240 --> 00:18:12.270 Frank R. Harrison: pending administration.
00:18:14.250 --> 00:18:34.820 Frank R. Harrison: I mean the face I'm showing you now is probably what I was feeling. It blew my mind because it wasn't even a loss to me. Personally it wasn't a loss to the show. It wasn't a loss to the documentary. It still was planning to come out in multiple formats, not just for Hilton
00:18:34.830 --> 00:18:35.990 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Oops!
00:18:35.990 --> 00:18:44.720 Frank R. Harrison: But also for a burgeoning partnership that I had started to create over the summer which I have now legalized.
00:18:45.320 --> 00:18:49.330 Frank R. Harrison: Thanks to Emily's support. By the way, it's called Health
00:18:49.430 --> 00:18:52.889 Frank R. Harrison: E media, and it's going to be an Llc.
00:18:53.090 --> 00:18:53.870 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Okay.
00:18:53.870 --> 00:19:00.059 Frank R. Harrison: Wholly owned by my corporate parent, which I think you remember when we 1st met medcash solutions incorporated
00:19:00.220 --> 00:19:01.640 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Yes.
00:19:01.760 --> 00:19:05.020 Frank R. Harrison: So, therefore it's an intellectual property company.
00:19:05.210 --> 00:19:11.430 Frank R. Harrison: where all of the content of the documentary, all of my episodes of frank about health.
00:19:11.680 --> 00:19:34.200 Frank R. Harrison: any other future projects that I choose to develop with talkradio Dot, Nyc. Or on social media with Brand yourself. You know that they were involved in this in this campaign as well. We'll be ready for licensing. We'll be ready for circulation and revenue production revenue sharing with all of the individuals that have ever been on frank about health.
00:19:34.750 --> 00:19:47.490 Frank R. Harrison: Select episodes can be copywritten. So residuals or royalties, or whatever the terminology is for podcasting can be collected, and at the same time I would have finally created the value
00:19:48.160 --> 00:19:52.080 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: That medcash intended to do back in 2013 when I launched it
00:19:52.180 --> 00:19:53.070 Frank R. Harrison: Now
00:19:53.340 --> 00:19:59.709 Frank R. Harrison: I think I had discussed with you back when we 1st met that it was a financial payment solution for healthcare
00:19:59.860 --> 00:20:00.360 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: You're right
00:20:00.360 --> 00:20:19.319 Frank R. Harrison: No more, no more. I mean, we have mobile apps. We have AI, we have the world of technology at our feet. However, I was very creative at the time to make the acronym cash very capitalized, because I meant community action for social healthcare. That is always been my vision
00:20:19.500 --> 00:20:45.030 Frank R. Harrison: to foster community and communication and advocacy, and a network of individuals who want the truth and transparency so that they're not lost in the system and part of the panic, I would say internally, for the reason of the election results is, you know, thank God, I'm in New York, a blue State where that same election kept everything that was put in place.
00:20:45.260 --> 00:20:47.889 Frank R. Harrison: at least for the next 10 years in this State.
00:20:48.260 --> 00:20:54.790 Frank R. Harrison: So I have not lost a lot of the benefits that other States are losing all right. But
00:20:54.990 --> 00:20:57.079 Frank R. Harrison: that's great for me personally.
00:20:57.250 --> 00:21:07.140 Frank R. Harrison: But what about the fact that I now have a documentary and content that was going to go nationally and now is subject to being regional.
00:21:07.830 --> 00:21:16.889 Frank R. Harrison: Healthcare is not regional. It's universal, it's universal in concept, it's ubiquitous. You can't segment something like healthcare
00:21:17.000 --> 00:21:19.320 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: So I felt I was being censored
00:21:19.580 --> 00:21:35.290 Frank R. Harrison: Or or I don't know if the word is marginalized in this case, but I felt like I could only say about certain I was dead against it. But either way again, that was just my reactions, and I was still bouncing back because it was still early November. And I decided.
00:21:35.400 --> 00:21:41.809 Frank R. Harrison: have Ritha Gray be on my final show before I repurpose this documentary to get to the right hands
00:21:41.810 --> 00:21:42.740 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Okay.
00:21:42.740 --> 00:21:47.330 Frank R. Harrison: And it was perfect show, because she had just won a tribute award
00:21:47.720 --> 00:21:57.510 Frank R. Harrison: for being humanitarian of the year out in La. I found out a lot about her that night that she had been a missionary. She traveled to 3rd World countries and fed homeless people
00:21:58.040 --> 00:22:03.869 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: I'd known the woman 12 years. That's the 1st time I found that out either way. She also
00:22:04.130 --> 00:22:07.740 Frank R. Harrison: I mean that that would be the second thing in the timeline question.
00:22:07.950 --> 00:22:08.530 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Right.
00:22:08.530 --> 00:22:13.959 Frank R. Harrison: I literally not only felt that it made sense to have her on that show.
00:22:14.320 --> 00:22:18.900 Frank R. Harrison: but already just something about her made me feel that
00:22:20.080 --> 00:22:23.669 Frank R. Harrison: I'm going to come back from the 6 week hiatus
00:22:23.960 --> 00:22:31.699 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: With a lot of her influence and momentum and guidance, because we would have weekly conversations just about anything. All right now.
00:22:32.060 --> 00:22:35.440 Frank R. Harrison: The irony was after Thanksgiving she called me.
00:22:35.560 --> 00:22:53.690 Frank R. Harrison: and she says to me, Frank, I may have just gotten a part in a Bradley Cooper Film. It films in Chicago. Are you going to Chicago next week? And I said, Well, I was thinking about it. But why are you going to be there, and she said, Yes, book your ticket. I'll meet you at the Hilton Club in Chicago, and
00:22:54.030 --> 00:23:01.700 Frank R. Harrison: we'll hang out, I mean, because I was on it was holiday time. It was hiatus. It was. I wasn't going to be doing any shows. I booked my ticket.
00:23:02.100 --> 00:23:12.260 Frank R. Harrison: Jose comes with me, too. We're we're all going out there. She never calls me. She doesn't show up. But she did say to me, If you don't hear from me, that means I didn't get the part.
00:23:12.380 --> 00:23:14.460 Frank R. Harrison: But enjoy yourself, anyway.
00:23:14.980 --> 00:23:21.239 Frank R. Harrison: You know, I went out there, spent 2 days, came home, that's all I really wanted to do. Anyway, it was a nice little break.
00:23:21.360 --> 00:23:26.079 Frank R. Harrison: and I at that time was looking forward to speak to her when I got back.
00:23:26.440 --> 00:23:28.779 Frank R. Harrison: But the 3rd thing that happened
00:23:28.990 --> 00:23:33.520 Frank R. Harrison: was my cousin, who now has Alzheimer's Stage 3
00:23:34.290 --> 00:23:49.259 Frank R. Harrison: as determined by Columbia Presbyterian Hospital. They have the, in my view, the number one renowned Alzheimer's Research Institute. I didn't know one that even one existed. But the bottom line is is that she started
00:23:50.190 --> 00:23:55.289 Frank R. Harrison: losing total control. I can't say on air what she was doing, so
00:23:55.900 --> 00:24:01.450 Frank R. Harrison: I'm getting calls from her family. I need to put her in a home. That's not my place to do that.
00:24:01.680 --> 00:24:09.570 Frank R. Harrison: So the only way I can work within the system is work with the doctor to have her sent in an emergency
00:24:09.850 --> 00:24:17.540 Frank R. Harrison: room situation based on wandering, which was happening and putting herself in harm's way which had happened.
00:24:17.890 --> 00:24:21.289 Frank R. Harrison: And so my mother next of kin, who's her aunt.
00:24:21.430 --> 00:24:26.570 Frank R. Harrison: calls 911. We send her to the ambulance, and then now she's no longer allowed to return to the community.
00:24:27.280 --> 00:24:35.350 Frank R. Harrison: So we find that because of the Hospice care she'd been pre-approved, for they found one bed in a facility near Washington heights.
00:24:35.710 --> 00:24:38.709 Frank R. Harrison: We got her there, and then we find out
00:24:39.240 --> 00:24:44.979 Frank R. Harrison: that she is being neglected. We're talking. One flew over the cuckoo's nest, but worse
00:24:45.250 --> 00:24:46.480 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Oh, okay.
00:24:46.480 --> 00:24:48.239 Frank R. Harrison: And now I have no power.
00:24:49.260 --> 00:24:50.030 Frank R. Harrison: Cs can't do that.
00:24:50.030 --> 00:24:53.319 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Wait. I have a question because you talked about Hospice care
00:24:54.150 --> 00:25:01.410 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: so so is that Hospice for something else or for the Alzheimer's, I mean? Why was she in hospice care
00:25:01.670 --> 00:25:04.159 Frank R. Harrison: Mjhs. Are you familiar with that
00:25:04.160 --> 00:25:04.490 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: No.
00:25:04.490 --> 00:25:14.640 Frank R. Harrison: Metropolitan Jewish Hospice Service. They're in New York City area, and they have both in-home care which is what we tried to get her involved with.
00:25:15.050 --> 00:25:19.400 Frank R. Harrison: And in institutionalized care
00:25:19.610 --> 00:25:20.030 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: -
00:25:20.030 --> 00:25:27.650 Frank R. Harrison: So this one facility, which I will rename keep nameless. The 1st initials in the name are Mjhs.
00:25:28.160 --> 00:25:33.960 Frank R. Harrison: So it it had the availability for her, while everyone else had 5 year waiting lists, 3 month, waiting lists. Whatever
00:25:33.960 --> 00:25:34.570 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Okay.
00:25:34.570 --> 00:25:42.419 Frank R. Harrison: And because she was no longer allowed to return to the community, and Columbia was not about to retain her. It's not like she had upcoming surgeries, or anything like that.
00:25:42.420 --> 00:25:42.740 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Right.
00:25:42.740 --> 00:25:49.240 Frank R. Harrison: So. And this is all happening while I'm attending Ritha Gray's memorial service and delivering a eulogy
00:25:49.550 --> 00:25:51.169 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Right? Well, yeah.
00:25:51.420 --> 00:25:54.029 Frank R. Harrison: My head is split in 5 different directions. If
00:25:54.030 --> 00:25:55.240 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: You mean a man
00:25:55.600 --> 00:25:56.790 Frank R. Harrison: Either way
00:25:57.090 --> 00:26:02.759 Frank R. Harrison: the thing that kept me at peace through all that which is where I started talking about Ritha's influence.
00:26:03.280 --> 00:26:05.829 Frank R. Harrison: I heard Ritha's voice. Go through me.
00:26:05.960 --> 00:26:12.540 Frank R. Harrison: Frank. No, you need to go and attend my memorial, my tribute to life, because I'm expecting you to make me look good.
00:26:12.680 --> 00:26:14.360 Frank R. Harrison: This is how she would speak
00:26:14.770 --> 00:26:16.389 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And literally
00:26:17.160 --> 00:26:27.909 Frank R. Harrison: I would look at the pictures that I created that were used as a slideshow in my speech. I'm looking at one of the pictures, and I'm talking to her. I actually feel like I'm talking to her.
00:26:27.910 --> 00:26:29.210 Frank R. Harrison: you know, and
00:26:29.210 --> 00:26:39.860 Frank R. Harrison: and I even notice, and I do this a lot like when I do Frank about health I'll write the list of topics, but I won't even look at it. I'll talk about one thing, and by the time the show is over. I've talked about all of it, and more
00:26:39.860 --> 00:26:42.420 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: So wait a minute. When did she pass? She passed
00:26:42.850 --> 00:26:48.389 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: when you came back from Chicago, or she came, or when you were in Chicago? When did she pass
00:26:48.600 --> 00:26:55.710 Frank R. Harrison: Okay, well, the the all right. So December 5, th I came back, and December.
00:26:56.080 --> 00:27:01.189 Frank R. Harrison: I think it was Christmas. The day after Christmas, September
00:27:01.190 --> 00:27:01.540 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Basically
00:27:01.540 --> 00:27:02.670 Frank R. Harrison: December 26.th
00:27:03.381 --> 00:27:09.269 Frank R. Harrison: I had a 1 on one meeting with Maury, showing him the documentary
00:27:10.460 --> 00:27:35.299 Frank R. Harrison: It's me feeling guilty that I hadn't reached out to her because of all the stuff going on with my cousin. I'm trying to figure out why she's not responding to my merry Christmas messages, or whatever. I'm watching this moment with Ritha and Betty White, and I'm finding out what's happening that she's attached to a respirator after a stroke, and whatever. And between that and December 31st New Year's Eve, 2 years to the day that Betty White died
00:27:35.300 --> 00:27:36.400 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Hmm.
00:27:36.400 --> 00:27:40.540 Frank R. Harrison: I literally felt her pass on. At 8 0. 1 Pm. That night
00:27:40.790 --> 00:27:43.990 Frank R. Harrison: I was eating a sandwich. I dropped it.
00:27:44.150 --> 00:27:50.382 Frank R. Harrison: and my! I think it was my parents, and Jose came to visit Joey. Rather. And
00:27:51.120 --> 00:27:52.859 Frank R. Harrison: he goes. What's wrong? I go.
00:27:53.350 --> 00:27:54.690 Frank R. Harrison: Ritha just died
00:27:55.410 --> 00:27:59.939 Frank R. Harrison: at 8 30 that evening. Her cousin calls me, and tells me time of death. 8, 0. 1
00:28:00.120 --> 00:28:01.140 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Hmm.
00:28:01.140 --> 00:28:06.830 Frank R. Harrison: So. Another thing I'm saying is that from the time she was on the show through the time of her death.
00:28:06.980 --> 00:28:13.833 Frank R. Harrison: infused with all my confusion about Hilton, and not to mention what's going on with
00:28:17.320 --> 00:28:19.729 Frank R. Harrison: There was something else I was talking. Oh, my cousin.
00:28:19.900 --> 00:28:20.949 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Your cousin right
00:28:21.710 --> 00:28:25.960 Frank R. Harrison: I feel Ritha's presence directing me through all of that chaos.
00:28:27.110 --> 00:28:31.810 Frank R. Harrison: And then so when she passed on on the 31, st
00:28:32.040 --> 00:28:39.360 Frank R. Harrison: and I'm spending the month of January, speaking to her husband, who's the control of the services and
00:28:39.460 --> 00:28:44.710 Frank R. Harrison: in control of, you know, having her cremated and all this stuff. And then her manager.
00:28:44.850 --> 00:28:48.959 Frank R. Harrison: Because I'm talking about, you know the 10 episodes of Frank about health.
00:28:49.160 --> 00:28:55.990 Frank R. Harrison: Her stature in society, I mean, is the estate going to be looking for payment on the production that she just did.
00:28:56.250 --> 00:28:59.219 Frank R. Harrison: They were like, no, no, that's that, was Ritha.
00:28:59.710 --> 00:29:01.740 Frank R. Harrison: Feel that it was her gift to you
00:29:01.950 --> 00:29:05.529 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Just do her justice, though, if obviously money is made
00:29:06.160 --> 00:29:16.149 Frank R. Harrison: The estate is gonna want money. So I even worked that into my lawyer meeting this past Wednesday, and they've got her covered. So I'm just trying to do right by everybody that's done right by me.
00:29:16.150 --> 00:29:16.680 Frank R. Harrison: Gotcha.
00:29:16.680 --> 00:29:25.299 Frank R. Harrison: The thing with Ritha is that if it wasn't, for I guess you could say my connection with her. I feel that she's here with me right now. I, honest to God, feel that way.
00:29:25.500 --> 00:29:28.739 Frank R. Harrison: But the thing is is that if it wasn't for that
00:29:28.900 --> 00:29:32.949 Frank R. Harrison: I probably would not have returned back to the show. I probably would have just
00:29:33.410 --> 00:29:38.679 Frank R. Harrison: I don't know burnt out, I mean I would not do that to you. I probably would have
00:29:38.920 --> 00:29:51.889 Frank R. Harrison: you know. Come back 6 months from now. Who knows? The point is that's not going to happen. I'm coming back based on the fact that you reached out to me literally. When I had just finished talking about her with a friend of mine on the West Coast.
00:29:52.020 --> 00:29:58.599 Frank R. Harrison: You literally reached out to me that very second, and I and we had our meeting, which you know about, obviously.
00:29:58.760 --> 00:30:12.800 Frank R. Harrison: And I said, That's it. I have to come back. This is Ritha's way of saying, and come back. That's that's that's what's guiding me right now to be honest with you, because, while I always credit myself as being as prepared as as possible, I do have my limitations.
00:30:15.010 --> 00:30:25.349 Frank R. Harrison: It was. It's Ritha Gray's spirit that has kept me afloat in all of this, because I would have buckled under. But yet the opportunities that grew during this time
00:30:25.650 --> 00:30:28.010 Frank R. Harrison: I feel Ritha had a hand on it.
00:30:28.180 --> 00:30:40.790 Frank R. Harrison: because while Hilton is still slightly involved, I mean, I can always do a show there if I want to. But I'm no longer going to be banking on distribution opportunities, or whatever I had talked with you about. Yet
00:30:41.110 --> 00:30:44.690 Frank R. Harrison: Fordham University contacted me. That's where I got my Mba. Fordham Gabellion
00:30:44.690 --> 00:30:47.970 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Why don't we hold it there? Because we gotta take a break? So sorry.
00:30:47.970 --> 00:31:01.670 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: So we can use the segment. We'll close the chapter on the challenges that happened. And then, next segment, let's talk about what opened up for you and what opportunities got created that, you know, potentially moving forward can really serve okay.
00:31:01.810 --> 00:31:03.079 Frank R. Harrison: You got it? Thanks again
00:31:03.080 --> 00:31:09.320 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: All right. You're listening to Frank about health. We'll be right back with your host, Frank Harrison, in just a moment.
00:32:40.760 --> 00:33:05.509 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: So, frank. We talked last segment about sort of the challenges that that happened during this hiatus that you took from from the thing kind of unraveling with the potential sponsor the problems with with your cousin and having to put her in Hospice Aretha Gray passing. Was there any other challenges that happened before we start getting into the opportunities
00:33:07.990 --> 00:33:13.870 Frank R. Harrison: Well believe it or not. Thanks to the current administration, my caregiving job
00:33:13.980 --> 00:33:16.599 Frank R. Harrison: with my father was eliminated
00:33:16.750 --> 00:33:17.740 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Hmm.
00:33:17.740 --> 00:33:23.110 Frank R. Harrison: It's like you could no longer be a caregiver for a parent or a child of your own.
00:33:23.340 --> 00:33:49.759 Frank R. Harrison: That was a covid era law put into place, at least in New York. I can't speak for the Federal Government, but the point is at least in New York State. As I said, Kathy Hochul, our governor, has done a lot of protections where the program still exists. They call it the Cdpap program, but it has to be a friend, a cousin, a sibling. It can't be parent or child anymore, and that is not my professional role. Anyway.
00:33:49.880 --> 00:33:50.230 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: It was
00:33:50.230 --> 00:34:15.329 Frank R. Harrison: Supplementing a lot of necessary income, but the opportunity from that was that Jose Dennis, who is my partner in all of this, was also my partner in caregiving for my father that they made him being that he's not genetically related to my father. They made him a 7 day a week, primary care attendant for nutrition, counseling which my father sorely needs with a lot more money. And guess what I get to apply for unemployment insurance. So
00:34:15.770 --> 00:34:24.529 Frank R. Harrison: ironically. From a financial standpoint. I'm actually cashing in on the chaos that's being created. But I'm not looking at life that way.
00:34:24.639 --> 00:34:46.609 Frank R. Harrison: I really think the substance is in taking those experiences in my case. I wouldn't call them traumas but a little bit of chaos, and trying to get the opportunity fleshed out of it, and, as I was saying before the break, it was Ritha Gray's spirit and feeling and energy that was making me see the glass more half full rather than the other way around
00:34:46.610 --> 00:35:02.830 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Great. Okay? So you had all these challenges happening. And then you start talking about. So so now, what has opened up? What? Now? That like sort of the the whiteboard got wiped clean from all the things that you thought were gonna happen.
00:35:03.270 --> 00:35:05.919 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: what opportunities presented themselves
00:35:06.780 --> 00:35:14.340 Frank R. Harrison: Well, I think I give credit to timing, and being in the moment, you know, like the power of now, right by Eckhart Tolle
00:35:14.830 --> 00:35:18.050 Frank R. Harrison: again the 31st Ritha Gray dies.
00:35:18.370 --> 00:35:32.509 Frank R. Harrison: On the 3rd of January I get a call, an email from Fordham Gabelli School of business. I'm an alumnus. Got my Mba there in 2,002 thanks to Sony music, by the way, because they really funded the whole educational experience there.
00:35:32.780 --> 00:35:36.899 Frank R. Harrison: And they said, We have seen your episodes of Frank about health.
00:35:37.190 --> 00:35:42.920 Frank R. Harrison: And we want you to talk about your podcast to our new introduction to AI class
00:35:43.180 --> 00:35:45.009 Frank R. Harrison: as an alumni speaker.
00:35:45.632 --> 00:35:51.370 Frank R. Harrison: Because we would like to see how AI as a tool can help
00:35:51.500 --> 00:36:03.800 Frank R. Harrison: repurpose documentaries in general or not documentaries, i'm, sorry podcasts in general. So they wanted me to speak from a marketing perspective, and they wanted me to speak from a healthcare perspective, too.
00:36:04.580 --> 00:36:10.240 Frank R. Harrison: Now, when I had gone to that 1st seminar which I think was the 13th of January.
00:36:10.940 --> 00:36:36.010 Frank R. Harrison: they had seen my experience at Sony music. They had seen the fact that when I was getting my Mba I had launched an entire media and entertainment club and got people employed at the time Aol. Time, Warner, ABC. Networks, showtime Viacom whatever, but and especially Sony, music and Sony Music international. They knew my alumni status that they allowed me to audit
00:36:36.530 --> 00:36:38.669 Frank R. Harrison: that introductory course
00:36:39.470 --> 00:36:47.869 Frank R. Harrison: because they felt that they can learn a lot from an alumnus and a real life business and see how AI fits into it.
00:36:48.260 --> 00:36:52.590 Frank R. Harrison: So I'm like, well, sure I'll sit in.
00:36:52.860 --> 00:36:58.999 Frank R. Harrison: But to make matters even more interesting, the professor says to me, Frank, why don't you introduce yourself? I did.
00:36:59.360 --> 00:37:02.820 Frank R. Harrison: and an individual walks up to me after the class.
00:37:03.280 --> 00:37:07.329 Frank R. Harrison: I'm gonna leave his name out. I I felt that for him. I need to get his permission.
00:37:07.330 --> 00:37:12.160 Frank R. Harrison: you know, walks up and said, Hey.
00:37:12.500 --> 00:37:19.689 Frank R. Harrison: I invested in Sony music. In fact, I'm an investor. I'm an AI investor. I'd like to know more about your business
00:37:19.810 --> 00:37:42.659 Frank R. Harrison: what what is it called? And I said, Well, I'm trying to get all my properties and products into an umbrella company that I call healthy media. But I'm still trying to negotiate. Is it going to be in an Llc. Is it going to be incorporated and believe it or not? Something else about Ritha, her cousin, was saying that. Why don't you name the company after her healthy media? By Ritha Gray, and I was actually considering it.
00:37:42.820 --> 00:37:43.670 Frank R. Harrison: But
00:37:44.420 --> 00:37:56.709 Frank R. Harrison: I don't want to mix apples and oranges and stuff like that. But the thing is is that it was that kind of inspiration where Ritha has her hand in it again. That made me have this conversation with the guy. And now.
00:37:56.860 --> 00:37:59.419 Frank R. Harrison: because of his influence in the program.
00:38:00.000 --> 00:38:05.040 Frank R. Harrison: healthy media is a case study for a group project in this class
00:38:05.040 --> 00:38:05.580 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Wow!
00:38:05.580 --> 00:38:30.530 Frank R. Harrison: They are looking at the documentary. They are looking at episodes of Frank about health. They're looking at the background of talkradio Dot, Nyc. They're looking at the caregiving work that me and Jose have done. They've even suggested that maybe what I should do is open up a nutrition show for him on talkradio dot nyc. Obviously I would give it to this network first, st but it's all future steps and possibilities. The point is.
00:38:31.090 --> 00:38:36.350 Frank R. Harrison: I'm being led by default to a situation that I wasn't planning on.
00:38:36.820 --> 00:38:42.260 Frank R. Harrison: And all of a sudden I'm seeing a future opening up, and
00:38:42.380 --> 00:38:45.389 Frank R. Harrison: I found myself saying, Thank you, Ritha.
00:38:45.510 --> 00:38:46.920 Frank R. Harrison: I know you're doing this.
00:38:47.170 --> 00:38:49.829 Frank R. Harrison: I don't know why this is happening, but I feel pulled.
00:38:50.320 --> 00:38:58.399 Frank R. Harrison: You know I wasn't talking to myself in public. But now that's what I was doing in my brief moments. Yet at the same time
00:38:59.090 --> 00:39:04.099 Frank R. Harrison: that same professor invites me to an alumni AI Academy event.
00:39:04.520 --> 00:39:07.249 Frank R. Harrison: which was, I think, on a Saturday in January.
00:39:07.460 --> 00:39:11.100 Frank R. Harrison: and I'm meeting all these old professors I haven't seen in 20 years.
00:39:11.220 --> 00:39:23.609 Frank R. Harrison: and some of them are saying, Frank, are you still at Sony. I go. Are you kidding me? Sony is no longer in Sony. It's in the old Metlife building, and it's not even Sony anymore. It's just a music and a film company, that's all it is.
00:39:23.870 --> 00:39:38.170 Frank R. Harrison: But they said, Well, what what are you doing here? Are you to be teaching here? And I go. No, not really. But I can say that there is a class I'm sitting in on where a group of students are actually analyzing my business for viability
00:39:38.310 --> 00:40:06.060 Frank R. Harrison: to see if investment capital can be raised to see how they can repurpose my content with AI technologies and actually generate significant revenue for the brand, whether it's healthy media or frank about health, or any of the individuals involved in the shows. So it's all a what if it's all possibilities? But again, with Ritha's inspirational guidance. I'm only looking at the possibilities instead of what happened.
00:40:07.070 --> 00:40:12.209 Frank R. Harrison: So it's opening up other opportunities like I have admitted to you earlier
00:40:12.760 --> 00:40:15.320 Frank R. Harrison: that I had been talking to a professional
00:40:15.730 --> 00:40:26.740 Frank R. Harrison: CEO, who has written a book, a very powerful book, that at this point I have an advanced copy of it. I don't think I will be promoting or featuring it, as I had hoped.
00:40:26.790 --> 00:40:46.480 Frank R. Harrison: but it'll be an influence for me on how I style future episodes of frank about health, because I need to be talking about the critical issues that are happening in our society today. I know I've done my part with epilepsy and covid and ways of being able to get the right doctors and treatments. But you know what? Not. Everybody's gonna have access to that information anymore.
00:40:46.660 --> 00:40:52.859 Frank R. Harrison: It's either gonna be cut out, censored, hidden, misrepresented. So I have to be more frank than ever.
00:40:53.050 --> 00:40:55.350 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Yeah. So I'm using that
00:40:55.720 --> 00:41:00.940 Frank R. Harrison: A book that I have as kind of like reference guide
00:41:01.080 --> 00:41:03.250 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: To format my own
00:41:05.050 --> 00:41:10.809 Frank R. Harrison: As as reliable content as I can. Now the thing is is that again I am not a doctor.
00:41:10.940 --> 00:41:23.859 Frank R. Harrison: so I would never claim to be. It would be wonderful to have one working with me, but then the closest I've had so far is Phyllis Quinlan, and I don't know. Maybe we can creatively come up with something to at least again.
00:41:24.290 --> 00:41:47.790 Frank R. Harrison: if I can't reach the audience that I had hoped to, I can at least reach my core audience with the very true issues of healthcare. That people should just know, you know, I mean, whether they use it or not is still their choice, but at least I've done my part to be as frank, transparent, open, and honest as possible. I know what it's like to be gaslit
00:41:47.910 --> 00:41:58.480 Frank R. Harrison: all right now everybody knows what it's like to be depending on. If you're dealing with a narcissist or whatever. But when you are dealing with a disability, especially a neurological one.
00:41:58.900 --> 00:42:07.720 Frank R. Harrison: You're a number one target for gaslighting because you're already perceived. As less than so people feel they can take advantage of you
00:42:08.110 --> 00:42:08.640 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: It's
00:42:08.640 --> 00:42:09.709 Frank R. Harrison: It's a very
00:42:10.800 --> 00:42:27.449 Frank R. Harrison: sad comment on the way people have been wired or programmed, you know, when we all, at this point in our society really do need each other, you know, if even you can't spend time or money to help out someone at least tell people the truth.
00:42:27.570 --> 00:42:32.010 Frank R. Harrison: That's it. Don't waste your time. Don't waste my time. If you can't tell me the damn truth. Sorry
00:42:32.010 --> 00:42:34.729 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: It sounds sounds like you need your own advocate.
00:42:35.200 --> 00:42:35.540 Frank R. Harrison: Yeah.
00:42:35.540 --> 00:42:41.309 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Being a health advocate for other people. It sounds like you could use an advocate for yourself
00:42:41.310 --> 00:42:45.579 Frank R. Harrison: Well, that's the thing like I've been saying all along. Ritha is my advocate. She's still
00:42:45.580 --> 00:42:50.250 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Yeah, she's your angel. She's the angel on your shoulder.
00:42:50.440 --> 00:43:03.960 Frank R. Harrison: And I will say also, thanks to you, and allowing me, with Linda Marsonico, to be on the a train to Sedona. That was a very moving therapeutic episode for me to do. I had only anticipated
00:43:04.120 --> 00:43:18.159 Frank R. Harrison: to talk, you know, based on her views, on her show about spirituality and things like that. I'd intended to try to relate my story on that level, but we really fleshed out about how I felt Ritha's
00:43:18.220 --> 00:43:35.280 Frank R. Harrison: guidance in all of what I'd been going through that that in itself, she said. Yep, she's your spiritual mentor. I think that was the word she used, so that would be another person to thank for being a guest on Frank about health. Oh, and Mira Branku! Absolutely you, too!
00:43:35.280 --> 00:43:37.529 Frank R. Harrison: Oh, Dorothy Martin Neville! Another one
00:43:37.530 --> 00:43:38.290 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Oh.
00:43:38.690 --> 00:43:55.829 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: yes, Dorothy is wonderful, all right. So so we're taking. We're going to go. Take the last break of the show. So when we come back. You know, we've kind of talked about the challenges, the opportunities. So let's talk about the intentions like, what is your intention with Frank about health for the future.
00:43:56.050 --> 00:44:07.650 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: How are these challenges and opportunities informing the choices you're going to make? And what can people expect from Frank about health in this coming year? Okay.
00:44:08.090 --> 00:44:23.190 Frank R. Harrison: But 1st I'm going to give a shout out to Jessica Serevin, who has definitely made the impossible possible by editing and re-editing that documentary, which you did for 9 or 10 months, whatever it was, so a shout out right there
00:44:23.310 --> 00:44:26.340 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And we'll probably need to do some more editing as well. Alright.
00:44:26.340 --> 00:44:27.206 Frank R. Harrison: Next week.
00:44:27.640 --> 00:44:34.629 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: So let's take our last break, and when we come back we'll we'll talk about Frank about health. 3.0
00:44:34.810 --> 00:44:35.870 Frank R. Harrison: Exactly.
00:46:12.650 --> 00:46:32.139 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: So so frank you you've had a lot of challenges all kind of hitting you around the same time. Something that that would be challenging for anyone in your situation, from from health and loss and and business and everything. You've had some opportunities open up with an Alma mater.
00:46:32.860 --> 00:46:46.460 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: So what's your intention for this new iteration of Frank about health, this Frank? About health 3.0. What can people expect in this coming year? Where do you want to take the show? What kinds of guests and information
00:46:46.930 --> 00:46:48.510 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: are you looking to cover
00:46:49.400 --> 00:47:09.169 Frank R. Harrison: Well, I could say that for the rest of April being that I'm already pivoting as a result of an expectation that I don't think is going to happen. I'm gonna have. I'm kind of blocking in my mind a 3 part retrospective. Now, that would be what is this? The 3? rd So 10, th 17, th 24, th
00:47:09.300 --> 00:47:16.800 Frank R. Harrison: I don't mean old episodes, not in any way, shape or form. What I mean is old valuable guests
00:47:17.050 --> 00:47:25.630 Frank R. Harrison: coming back to talk about themes that I really want to focus on during the remaining. I guess it's 8 weeks after that point.
00:47:26.029 --> 00:47:30.499 Frank R. Harrison: The themes that I definitely want to talk about are grief and loss, that is without
00:47:30.500 --> 00:47:31.290 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Question.
00:47:31.940 --> 00:47:40.769 Frank R. Harrison: I want to talk about narcissistic personality, disorder and all of its spectrums, because I think I was surrounded by it
00:47:41.090 --> 00:47:44.006 Frank R. Harrison: with Ritha keeping me afloat.
00:47:45.330 --> 00:47:51.430 Frank R. Harrison: I want to bring back if she's open to it, Mira Branku.
00:47:51.530 --> 00:47:56.310 Frank R. Harrison: because I remember when I saw her piece in the documentary.
00:47:56.460 --> 00:48:07.829 Frank R. Harrison: she had said that she would like to see Frank about health, have health care leaders, and that's what I was hoping for in this particular individual that I had been talking about.
00:48:08.150 --> 00:48:09.030 Frank R. Harrison: But
00:48:09.380 --> 00:48:20.129 Frank R. Harrison: I think what I've learned in all of this time, especially during our host meetings, is that when I was in those meetings I felt us all like a family collaborating together. So
00:48:20.350 --> 00:48:24.540 Frank R. Harrison: I would start with Mira. But maybe I would also work with other
00:48:24.870 --> 00:48:46.799 Frank R. Harrison: hosts like we're doing right now, you know, to talk about the same issues that affect us both in our retrospect, in our respective shows, you know. So I had just been on Linda's show, so I think it would be too soon to have her come on again. Maybe I would do that at the end of the 12 Week Cycle. I don't know, but I want to set the show to be in a webinar
00:48:46.910 --> 00:48:52.799 Frank R. Harrison: in an educational format, not a webinar format that that actually is a pre-recorded format, I believe.
00:48:52.950 --> 00:48:55.100 Frank R. Harrison: but I want it to be
00:48:55.450 --> 00:49:05.160 Frank R. Harrison: more guided towards education in the way that I feel. I've been forcibly educated the last 4 months. And now that I do have
00:49:06.150 --> 00:49:24.250 Frank R. Harrison: an actual student group working on the future vision of healthy media which will own the rights to the documentary as well as select episodes of Frank about health. So we have to have that legal conversation at some point in the near future. The thing is is that
00:49:24.550 --> 00:49:39.283 Frank R. Harrison: I'm looking to monetize this show. I mean, this is, after all, a business. At the same time I'm I'm not blind to that, but I want to keep the integrity of the advocacy voice alive. So I need to be selective in the show guests and show
00:49:41.375 --> 00:49:43.690 Frank R. Harrison: Themes that
00:49:43.810 --> 00:49:51.549 Frank R. Harrison: really provide that advocacy message, I would have to say the 1st 2 iterations were more of Hi.
00:49:51.730 --> 00:49:58.589 Frank R. Harrison: I've been, you know I've been misinformed throughout my life. Let me show you what I discovered, and let's see if I can help you.
00:49:58.710 --> 00:50:06.289 Frank R. Harrison: But enough of that, especially now, when all of us are probably grappling with what? What is truthful, and what's not?
00:50:06.650 --> 00:50:28.149 Frank R. Harrison: You know it's really scary what I what I see on the news every day. I'm just very grateful that I live in New York State. I think we are way above it, and we were the state that managed the country during the Covid pandemic. So I give a lot of loyalty to where it all began for me. I mean, I was born and raised in this city, but at the same time I'm going to be more local.
00:50:28.360 --> 00:50:34.949 Frank R. Harrison: I mean, I was doing a lot of trips and doing shows and play. No, no, I need to stick on message
00:50:35.090 --> 00:50:37.800 Frank R. Harrison: and then get all the bells and whistles when they're earned.
00:50:37.980 --> 00:50:44.189 Frank R. Harrison: not not forcibly make them happen or be gaslit into believing they're going to happen so quickly.
00:50:44.590 --> 00:50:48.469 Frank R. Harrison: Right? You know I have to. I have to allow myself to stop that naive, the tech.
00:50:48.750 --> 00:50:50.670 Frank R. Harrison: I think, being grounded
00:50:50.790 --> 00:51:05.980 Frank R. Harrison: in this in this Fordham experience. They're they're almost like going back to school, but not so much. You know. I have my business as my priority, and I have school to keep me grounded, and then I have, by the end of the week, Thursday, the night that Grey's anatomy airs
00:51:06.020 --> 00:51:21.829 Frank R. Harrison: I get to do Frank about health. So I think what the audience can expect, especially over the next 12 weeks, is a repurposing, a little bit of a retrospective. But a little bit of this is where we're going now, and we're not talking specifically about epilepsy, or specifically about Covid.
00:51:21.880 --> 00:51:27.229 Frank R. Harrison: But we're going to talk about those things that are life changing, economically, challenging
00:51:27.490 --> 00:51:45.809 Frank R. Harrison: with AI. I'm going to be very much involved in that, especially because it is going to come up with cures. It's going to come up with new diagnoses. It's going to come up with new ways of medicational development. I could tell you my father's cancer medication was genetically programmed for him. You cannot get it over the counter
00:51:45.980 --> 00:51:46.600 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Yeah.
00:51:46.600 --> 00:51:55.240 Frank R. Harrison: So he's gonna be 94, and he's still alive, and he's still. He's still with his capacities. Thank God! After what I've seen with my cousin, you know, so
00:51:55.240 --> 00:51:55.560 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Yeah.
00:51:55.560 --> 00:52:05.169 Frank R. Harrison: I think that's again in answer to your earlier question, why, I take the word advocacy very seriously. I'm going to use this as my
00:52:05.880 --> 00:52:07.429 Frank R. Harrison: my ability to vent
00:52:07.730 --> 00:52:33.129 Frank R. Harrison: and educate, but at the same time to bring everybody together. That really wants the truth. If you don't want the truth, then don't watch the show. It's as simple as that, you know, and then I would hope to be honest with you in the summertime, when I come back for my next set of 12. I would like to launch a nutrition program with Jose Dennis. He's going to be very much involved in doing the next
00:52:33.600 --> 00:52:38.500 Frank R. Harrison: 6 to 9 months of nutrition programming for my father. I'm going to videotape it.
00:52:39.098 --> 00:52:50.299 Frank R. Harrison: He can provide nutrition for people with suffering from dementia nutrition for people living with cancer nutrition for people who want to prevent diabetes, but
00:52:50.430 --> 00:53:07.279 Frank R. Harrison: his expertise is that of a cook. He and I, together work with an expert nutritionist who's been guiding us for our relative needs. I've lost 30 pounds in all of this, you know, but I don't know how much of that is depression, or how much of it is actually eating healthy, well, hopefully.
00:53:07.280 --> 00:53:09.180 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: It's coming from eating healthy.
00:53:09.400 --> 00:53:10.579 Frank R. Harrison: More. So eating healthy. Yeah.
00:53:10.580 --> 00:53:11.350 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Yeah.
00:53:11.350 --> 00:53:13.279 Frank R. Harrison: It means having no appetite.
00:53:13.280 --> 00:53:39.409 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Yeah. So it sounds like you're frank about health will be focusing on things like mental wellness, physical wellness, latest developments in the health industry. What are the trends, and what do people need to know about in this new world that we're living in, that that they may not hear about in other places?
00:53:39.410 --> 00:54:02.640 Frank R. Harrison: Correct, correct. And I figure you, you know all the metrics on our Youtube channel as well as on our Facebook Channel, and I know, I saw the email from Jessica today about about talkradio dot Nyc shorts. I definitely want that information to go as viral as possible in the markets that talk radio Nyc reaches. I don't want to be
00:54:02.640 --> 00:54:17.999 Frank R. Harrison: limiting people that are in red States or not believing in healthcare. They should feel free to find it themselves if they so choose. I want people to be in touch with their own mind and body and health and wellness, but I'm not going to force feed or
00:54:18.000 --> 00:54:40.410 Frank R. Harrison: try to make someone see things my way, like I didn't think Hilton was going to be a way of force feeding people, but they were the ones that created the essential worker hotel. So this 180 degree spin just didn't make sense to me. So I'm not disassociating from them. But I'm segmenting my relationship with them to be appropriate when they need to be involved.
00:54:41.490 --> 00:54:56.479 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Wonderful, wonderful so if you were to make your wish list of guests that you would want to have on your show this coming year. What kinds of guests would you like to have on besides your old guests? What kinds of new guests
00:54:57.550 --> 00:55:17.219 Frank R. Harrison: Well, definitely, I'm thinking. I already said, nutrition oriented guests definitely neurological Alzheimer's well, just say neurological guests. I do want healthcare leaders like I said, what Mira's brand? Who's comment was on my documentary.
00:55:17.780 --> 00:55:25.309 Frank R. Harrison: I I don't think I want people who have an illness that just want to tout about it. I
00:55:25.310 --> 00:55:31.006 Frank R. Harrison: I think that done that already. I've had enough of that. You know. I would like to just
00:55:31.850 --> 00:55:39.869 Frank R. Harrison: really work with professionals that know what they're writing about. If they have a book, know what they are practicing, if they have a practice
00:55:40.290 --> 00:55:55.640 Frank R. Harrison: and just be direct with me from the start. I'm not just going to take them on, because oh, well, I've heard great things about you. No, I'd like to know what you do and what can we do together during your appearance on the show. So I'm going to be more like, I said, discerning
00:55:55.640 --> 00:56:09.650 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Wonderful wonderful. I have a couple of people I can connect you with after the show all right. So we just got a minute left. What would you like the listeners to know about the future, of Frank? About health? Before we close out the show
00:56:10.200 --> 00:56:15.520 Frank R. Harrison: The future of Frank about health is going to be a thematic display
00:56:15.790 --> 00:56:44.640 Frank R. Harrison: of what other opportunities that healthy media will provide to you. Going forward there will be the introduction of a portal healthymedia.com where there'll be catalog of frank about health, probably even catalog of some of the other health-oriented shows on this network. Talkradio dot Nyc. I will finally feature and stream that documentary and I will create a social network for people to continue to engage together and communicate about all health care, related topics.
00:56:44.640 --> 00:56:59.010 Frank R. Harrison: When Brand yourself comes back to work with me around May or June, I think, is their target date. They're going to be encompassing everything that's happening with this show and the documentary and other related media. And we're going to create a healthy
00:56:59.590 --> 00:57:01.960 Frank R. Harrison: e-media platform.
00:57:02.290 --> 00:57:05.199 Frank R. Harrison: I hope you join us in 2025 for the ride
00:57:05.730 --> 00:57:20.299 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Wonderful, wonderful. Thank you all for tuning in today. Make sure you catch all the wonderful shows here on Talkradio. Dot, Nyc. And Frank will be back next week. Thursdays 5 pm. Eastern time with Frank about health.
00:57:20.480 --> 00:57:21.629 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Yes, take care, everyone
00:57:22.260 --> 00:57:24.569 Frank R. Harrison: Bye, and thanks again, Sam, for everything
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