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In this episode, we explore how love, compassion, playfulness, visualization, meditation, and stillness can be healing spiritual practices that gird resiliency.
The Hard Skills is hosted by TalkRadio.nyc, a global live Podcasting Station focused on Empowering, Inspiring, Uplifting, and Educating our audiences and importantly, offsetting the fear and negativity that is so common in traditional programming. In this episode, I introduce Linda Marsanico, one of the newer hosts on this platform. She hosts The A Train to Sedona podcast and we'll be exploring resiliency through the lens of various spiritual practices.
Linda Marsanico initially trained as a social psychologist, but transitioned to writing, speaking, and coaching about love, compassion, playfulness, visualization, meditation, and stillness as a road to a joy-filled life. She encourages clients to develop the
muscle of meditation and mantra as a support for a disciplined mind. She is a spiritual coach who considers the mind,body, spirit of a person. Linda sees herself as a healer, through various modalities, including Reiki, Vortex (R) and Integrated Energy (R). Her podcast is named after her recently published book, The A Train to Sedona, in which she shares her journey toward love, compassion, and enlightenment and we’ll hear more about that today.
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Dr. Mira Brancu opens this episode of The Hard Skills by introducing Linda Marsanico, a fellow TalkRadio.NYC host, who transitioned from social psychology to spiritual coaching, focusing on love and compassion as paths to a joy-filled life. Their conversation explores the intersection of psychology, leadership, and spirituality, emphasizing resilience, personal growth, and the importance of choosing love over fear in navigating life’s challenges. Linda shares her journey of integrating metaphysical practices like Reiki with psychological principles, advocating for self-awareness, behavioral change, and intentional energy management as tools for leaders and high-achievers to cultivate deeper personal and professional fulfillment.
Dr. Mira Brancu and Dr. Linda Marsanico dive deeper into the power of energy management, emphasizing how leaders often waste energy on unproductive pursuits that drain their well-being. Linda shares practical strategies, such as short meditations, mantras, and mindfulness techniques, to help high-achievers stay focused, present, and resilient. They highlight how genuine listening fosters connection, self-love is foundational to personal growth, and addressing inner voids prevents unhealthy coping mechanisms—offering leaders a roadmap to more balanced and impactful lives.
Dr. Mira Brancu and Dr. Linda Marsanico explore the dangers of fear-driven leadership and the growing societal trend of authoritarianism, emphasizing that resilience stems from choosing love and compassion over fear. Linda shares how personal growth requires self-reflection, continuous learning, and reframing challenges as opportunities for development, rather than reacting with blame or negativity. They highlight the importance of self-talk, recognizing triggers, and embracing setbacks as stepping stones, ultimately reinforcing that leadership—and personal fulfillment—comes from intentional inner work and a commitment to positive impact.
Dr. Mira Brancu and Dr. Linda Marsanico conclude their conversation by sharing practical strategies for strengthening resilience through spiritual practices, including meditation, mantras, and intentional breathing. Linda emphasizes the importance of disciplined thinking, staying present, and fostering self-compassion, while also encouraging leaders to find meaningful work that aligns with their passions. The episode closes with a call to action for high-achievers to integrate these small yet powerful changes into their daily lives, reinforcing that true leadership and personal fulfillment come from self-awareness, balance, and intentional growth.
00:00:52.230 --> 00:01:11.200 Mira Brancu: Welcome back to the hard skills show where we take a deep dive into the most challenging soft skills required to navigate leadership, uncertainty, complexities and change today and into the future. I'm your host, Dr. Mira Branku, psychologist, leadership consultant and founder of Towerscope.
00:01:11.440 --> 00:01:21.730 Mira Brancu: In today's episode. I'm excited to introduce Linda Marcannico as one of the newer show. Hosts on talk radio dot Nyc. For those of you who don't know
00:01:21.930 --> 00:01:42.370 Mira Brancu: my show. The hard skills is hosted by talkradio, dot Nyc, and so is Linda's and Talkradio dot. Nyc is a global live podcasting station that offers something different from the mainstream. Media. It's focused on empowering, inspiring, uplifting, and educating our audiences and importantly
00:01:42.710 --> 00:01:47.720 Mira Brancu: offsetting the fear and negativity that is so common in traditional programming
00:01:47.830 --> 00:02:06.359 Mira Brancu: as an alternative to typical talk, radio, we focus on content. That helps you feel better about yourself and the world around you. While also educating you on the topics that you're interested in. Now I had one of our other hosts, Frank R. Harrison, host of Frank, about health on the show last year, so now I get to introduce Linda.
00:02:06.550 --> 00:02:20.900 Mira Brancu: and we try to cross, collaborate whenever possible. When I saw the connection between her work and mine, I thought this could really be interesting. The 1st immediate thought was resiliency.
00:02:21.494 --> 00:02:26.360 Mira Brancu: We come at it from different ways, and whichever road you take towards
00:02:26.850 --> 00:02:51.690 Mira Brancu: girding your resiliency right now, it's more important than ever before, but as she and I were talking before the show even started, I started thinking, oh, my goodness, we might have more in common than I realized. So 1st let me introduce to you Linda Marcannico, which I just love to say, your whole entire name, Linda Marcannico. It just sounds beautiful. She is the host of the A. Train to Sedona.
00:02:51.800 --> 00:03:08.750 Mira Brancu: Linda, initially trained as a social psychologist, but transitioned to writing, speaking, and coaching about spirituality and about love and compassion as a road to a joy-filled life.
00:03:09.140 --> 00:03:28.999 Mira Brancu: Now Linda herself sees herself as a healer through, and she uses various modalities to get there, including reiki and vortex integrated energy. Her Podcast is named right after her book, The A train to Sedona. She's got the book. She's got the Podcast and she shares her journey in that book.
00:03:29.404 --> 00:03:35.939 Mira Brancu: Into this space. And we're going to hear more about that today. So welcome and great to have you on the show. Linda.
00:03:46.600 --> 00:03:51.409 Linda Marsanico: Thank you so much, Mira, for a wonderful introduction. I'm so happy to be with you.
00:03:51.410 --> 00:04:16.719 Mira Brancu: Yeah, me, too. And so so, Linda, I would love to work our way backwards first.st For a second I was thinking about you know how you made this transition from social psychologist into what you do now, which is, I mean, you call yourself a spiritual coach, but you do a lot of kind of healing work, and I will just say
00:04:16.930 --> 00:04:37.819 Mira Brancu: that when I think about spirituality, because I'm I come at this from, you know, a very heady, researchy background and training. So to me, even though I talk about soft skills. Sometimes I think spirituality is the most squishy, soft skill I could possibly imagine. And with psychology.
00:04:38.040 --> 00:04:42.279 Mira Brancu: you know, we have a lot of listeners who are obviously interested in psychology
00:04:42.520 --> 00:05:11.620 Mira Brancu: just because we're talking about, you know, soft skills and things like that. And there are lots of different types of psychologists and sub specialties. So I'm a clinical psychologist by training, I respecialize in organizational development and team development psychology, right? And those are just 2 flavors. Clinical psychology is more focused on mental health intervention and treatment. Organizational
00:05:11.750 --> 00:05:27.120 Mira Brancu: psychology is more focused on kind of workplace dynamics, employee engagement. You know, teamwork. You know how to drive positive outcomes, healthy work environments, things like that.
00:05:27.250 --> 00:05:40.790 Mira Brancu: You also have cognitive psychology and they end up in lots of very researchy experiences. Educational psychologists who focus on education. Social psychology, I think, is probably what people don't realize is probably
00:05:41.170 --> 00:05:49.240 Mira Brancu: one of the most interesting spaces to be in, because everybody wants to know
00:05:49.510 --> 00:06:11.749 Mira Brancu: what is happening in this group, what is happening socially, what is happening in society. Why do we have in groups and out groups all of that is social psychology, and well, beyond that. So I would love to hear kind of like the the whole sort of transition. How did you get into social psychology? But then, how did you move beyond that into the work that you do now?
00:06:12.490 --> 00:06:18.099 Linda Marsanico: I'd like to start in the year of 2,001.
00:06:18.730 --> 00:06:27.610 Linda Marsanico: Just before 9 11 I was interested in joining a spiritual group. I was searching for meaning something deeper.
00:06:28.060 --> 00:06:30.160 Linda Marsanico: And then 9, 11 happened.
00:06:30.700 --> 00:06:39.319 Linda Marsanico: and being a New Yorker looking over the river and seeing smoke, and it was awful for all of us. Life changed immediately.
00:06:39.920 --> 00:06:59.239 Linda Marsanico: so I felt bereft, and I joined one of the oldest co-ops in the country and the world. I believe the park slope food Co-OP, because I wanted to be part of something bigger than I was and something collaborative. And it's like the United Nations of Diversity.
00:06:59.400 --> 00:07:03.469 Linda Marsanico: So I joined the Co-OP, and then I joined the spiritual group.
00:07:05.190 --> 00:07:10.129 Linda Marsanico: We met for meditation every week, and mostly women. Some men
00:07:10.380 --> 00:07:20.099 Linda Marsanico: began to talk about things. Me with my Phd. I knew nothing about their conversations, and I've joked. It was like I was speaking Russian. They were speaking Chinese.
00:07:21.100 --> 00:07:31.540 Linda Marsanico: I voraciously read the metaphysical literature. The work of Greg Braden, David Hawkins, Wayne, Dyer, Matsuri, Moto, and it goes on.
00:07:31.700 --> 00:07:40.299 Linda Marsanico: Neil, Donald Walsh and I was going to the Meditations and getting Reiki from the clairvoyant healer.
00:07:40.480 --> 00:07:42.879 Linda Marsanico: and I was feeling very loving
00:07:43.240 --> 00:07:46.649 Linda Marsanico: and compassionate, and I wanted to share that
00:07:46.780 --> 00:07:54.359 Linda Marsanico: experience. So I wrote the book, and this is going back the book. I started in 2,010.
00:07:54.550 --> 00:07:59.050 Mira Brancu: And for various reasons which we could go into, it wouldn't get published.
00:07:59.420 --> 00:08:00.930 Linda Marsanico: Prior to
00:08:01.300 --> 00:08:22.890 Linda Marsanico: the spiritual group. I was a social psychologist, and I wanted to get licensed. So I went into Postgraduate Center, a very lovely place to learn about theories. I spent 3 years, got a certificate to work with children, families, and adolescents. So I was working in psychotherapy.
00:08:23.860 --> 00:08:33.320 Linda Marsanico: But the work in the group was informing me, and I wanted to bring metaphysics. Reiki
00:08:33.429 --> 00:08:39.520 Linda Marsanico: integrated energy, a vortex energy into the sessions, and
00:08:40.480 --> 00:08:56.270 Linda Marsanico: the scope of practice in New York State is kind of narrow mental health. Psychotherapy doesn't include reiki and metaphysicism. So I kind of made a metamorphosis into coaching
00:08:57.390 --> 00:09:03.250 Linda Marsanico: and became very interactive and directive, and
00:09:03.760 --> 00:09:16.780 Linda Marsanico: and I said to my clients, my major goal for you is to love yourself, I said. I learned all these theories to put a label on you, but I want my goal for you is to love yourself. And then we had other goals.
00:09:17.710 --> 00:09:23.989 Linda Marsanico: and it built from there, and I found myself working more holistically.
00:09:24.320 --> 00:09:29.190 Linda Marsanico: and it it just resonated with me. It's it's my style.
00:09:30.620 --> 00:09:37.730 Mira Brancu: Yeah, that that's amazing. Well, 1st of all, it sounds like it was an absolutely transformative experience.
00:09:38.685 --> 00:09:45.430 Mira Brancu: And that usually we find these moments
00:09:46.490 --> 00:09:51.070 Mira Brancu: in crisis, right when when we are faced with
00:09:51.430 --> 00:09:54.240 Mira Brancu: questioning the meaning of life, the
00:09:54.700 --> 00:09:58.860 Mira Brancu: all our existential questions, why am I here? Why did this happen?
00:09:59.310 --> 00:10:06.779 Mira Brancu: Did this happen to us? You know, here all of those questions, and it really forces you to
00:10:07.858 --> 00:10:11.070 Mira Brancu: take perspective, you know, and to think
00:10:11.490 --> 00:10:13.990 Mira Brancu: what what is important to me right now.
00:10:14.470 --> 00:10:19.149 Mira Brancu: And it sounds like for you. You were already kind of there.
00:10:19.320 --> 00:10:26.649 Mira Brancu: And then 9, 11 happened, and it sort of catalyzed what you were seeking, and you found it. Is that right?
00:10:26.810 --> 00:10:30.530 Linda Marsanico: I would say, yes, yes, you really put the nail on the head.
00:10:30.530 --> 00:10:39.140 Mira Brancu: That's amazing. So I'm curious. If you're willing to share. What were you seeking right around that time
00:10:39.240 --> 00:10:42.080 Mira Brancu: that this filled so well for you?
00:10:44.090 --> 00:10:51.180 Linda Marsanico: I was seeking, as I said, greater meaning through interaction through community.
00:10:52.130 --> 00:11:02.970 Linda Marsanico: The Co-OP provided that and the group did. There was a lot that we had in common. It was the beginning of really love and compassion for me as the focus.
00:11:03.090 --> 00:11:05.140 Linda Marsanico: choosing love over fear.
00:11:05.140 --> 00:11:05.830 Mira Brancu: Hmm.
00:11:07.380 --> 00:11:10.000 Linda Marsanico: And when I wrote the book
00:11:10.540 --> 00:11:17.560 Linda Marsanico: my 1st editor said, You have to have a blog, and I said, I don't want to have a blog. It's too much work.
00:11:19.040 --> 00:11:20.630 Linda Marsanico: So I presented the
00:11:20.920 --> 00:11:28.360 Linda Marsanico: book rejection after rejection, and I said, She's right, and I developed the blog, and I thought.
00:11:28.510 --> 00:11:35.729 Linda Marsanico: Well, what will be the focus? It's a spiritual website. But how shall I focus? Took me 6 months.
00:11:36.290 --> 00:11:38.770 Linda Marsanico: Finally I said.
00:11:38.890 --> 00:11:45.409 Linda Marsanico: it's going to focus on love and compassion, because when we are loving and compassionate, we're spiritual.
00:11:45.850 --> 00:11:46.540 Mira Brancu: Hmm.
00:11:47.070 --> 00:11:57.320 Mira Brancu: and that, I think, is the connection I don't think I ever made, and I think the reason is probably that in our society. We confuse spirituality and religion.
00:11:57.320 --> 00:11:57.850 Linda Marsanico: Yes.
00:11:57.850 --> 00:12:04.260 Mira Brancu: And and when we confuse that sometimes we lose sight
00:12:04.410 --> 00:12:16.119 Mira Brancu: of the purpose of spirituality, which is a deeper connection to the sort of higher order of why we're here, and what our purpose is, and what feeds us as humans.
00:12:17.040 --> 00:12:18.190 Linda Marsanico: Absolutely.
00:12:18.520 --> 00:12:27.220 Mira Brancu: Yeah, and and so love over over fear. That speaks to me, you know.
00:12:28.160 --> 00:12:35.169 Mira Brancu: compassion at a time when we're seeing less and less ability to demonstrate compassion that speaks to me.
00:12:35.940 --> 00:12:52.210 Mira Brancu: and the goal of loving yourself obviously speaks to me because you and I were talking before the show, and we were talking about supporting women, and I support women in leadership. You support women in all walks of life and in all their stages.
00:12:53.247 --> 00:12:57.090 Mira Brancu: You know the the unlearning
00:12:57.400 --> 00:13:12.040 Mira Brancu: of messages about not loving ourselves and only loving others or being here for others needs, and letting go of loving ourselves are, you know, things that I think we're both
00:13:12.250 --> 00:13:22.130 Mira Brancu: really passionate about. All of this speaks to me. So I guess you're you're defining me as a spiritual person which I never thought of myself to be.
00:13:23.030 --> 00:13:26.630 Mira Brancu: Isn't that funny? So so tell me more now.
00:13:29.060 --> 00:13:33.520 Mira Brancu: Tell me more about the love over fear.
00:13:35.440 --> 00:13:42.490 Linda Marsanico: In the 3rd dimension we have the ego, and the ego is fear-based.
00:13:42.810 --> 00:13:50.919 Linda Marsanico: Now in spirituality. When you think of other, the other aspect of life is beyond the body, and the 3rd dimension.
00:13:51.380 --> 00:13:56.700 Linda Marsanico: It's all about love. Love is all there is now
00:13:57.200 --> 00:14:01.520 Linda Marsanico: in that explanation. You have love, and you have fear.
00:14:01.660 --> 00:14:11.510 Linda Marsanico: Fear includes all those emotions that we experience in functioning in life all the time we write books about all the feelings.
00:14:12.240 --> 00:14:14.619 Linda Marsanico: but spiritually it's love or fear.
00:14:14.740 --> 00:14:22.290 Linda Marsanico: And when we go into fear as is so prominent today, we pick up the energy of the angst of the planet.
00:14:22.570 --> 00:14:26.870 Linda Marsanico: We go into it, and we feel it, and I see it with my clients. I see it with myself.
00:14:27.140 --> 00:14:34.790 Linda Marsanico: So to choose love is to say, well, I'm going to kind of hang out in a different place. I'm going to be positive. It's not
00:14:34.910 --> 00:14:36.780 Linda Marsanico: that I'm going to ignore
00:14:37.110 --> 00:14:41.640 Linda Marsanico: what my issues are, what I need to work on. But I'm not going to dwell
00:14:42.020 --> 00:14:53.030 Linda Marsanico: on the politics or the problems of what's going on. So, for example, I recently wrote that when I'm feeling afraid, and often I do with the situation in this country.
00:14:53.630 --> 00:14:57.190 Linda Marsanico: I note that I'm feeling afraid.
00:14:57.790 --> 00:15:02.459 Linda Marsanico: I feel the hormones, and I step back.
00:15:03.130 --> 00:15:13.350 Linda Marsanico: and I surround myself with loving energy. It could be an ascended master. It could be love, it could be nature. Whatever you want to surround yourself with could be violet light.
00:15:14.450 --> 00:15:18.399 Linda Marsanico: and I hang out there, and I do that when I'm afraid.
00:15:18.710 --> 00:15:21.850 Linda Marsanico: rather than dwell and create more negativity
00:15:22.100 --> 00:15:24.930 Linda Marsanico: for myself and others, because we're all connected.
00:15:25.700 --> 00:15:35.109 Linda Marsanico: and we feel, you know, the butterfly effect that the butterfly in the Ukraine flips its flutters its wings, and we feel it in Texas.
00:15:36.480 --> 00:15:37.270 Mira Brancu: Yeah,
00:15:39.690 --> 00:15:50.630 Mira Brancu: as you're talking about what it could look like when you're reading the news. You're experiencing the fear. And then you're sort of taking, you know, a step back from it.
00:15:51.750 --> 00:15:56.049 Mira Brancu: I want to separate out for for people the difference between.
00:15:56.350 --> 00:15:58.610 Linda Marsanico: Avoidance and engagement
00:15:59.080 --> 00:16:03.230 Mira Brancu: Because often, when we fear
00:16:03.830 --> 00:16:12.840 Mira Brancu: right. And this is again coming from a clinical psychology perspective with anxiety. Right? The treatment for anxiety is, address the avoidance, the thing that you're avoiding right.
00:16:12.840 --> 00:16:13.470 Linda Marsanico: Thank you.
00:16:13.470 --> 00:16:17.200 Mira Brancu: And avoidance is the thing that holds you in fear.
00:16:17.390 --> 00:16:19.249 Linda Marsanico: Yeah, it holds. It holds the fear.
00:16:20.425 --> 00:16:21.300 Mira Brancu: And
00:16:22.000 --> 00:16:28.559 Mira Brancu: so I would love to hear more about how you think about, even if I'm taking a step back from
00:16:29.180 --> 00:16:38.390 Mira Brancu: you know the situation in order to re-experience. Love. It's actually it's not necessarily like avoiding life, right? Or what's happening.
00:16:38.390 --> 00:16:38.800 Linda Marsanico: Correct.
00:16:38.800 --> 00:16:43.009 Mira Brancu: How is it? How do you see it? As still staying, engaged.
00:16:44.500 --> 00:17:08.249 Linda Marsanico: I have a friend who has turned off all of her news programs. She doesn't want to know anything. I look at the news to get a sense of what's happening, and then I turn it off. I don't have a television, but I have 1st thing in the morning. If I open up my phone. I hear what the President is doing. I hear what the stock market is doing, but I don't want to do that 1st thing, but I can check and hear
00:17:08.550 --> 00:17:18.130 Linda Marsanico: a synopsis of the news. But I don't stay there if I feel afraid I
00:17:18.410 --> 00:17:25.919 Linda Marsanico: perform that ritual that I just told you about, but if I'm afraid with other things, there's other work for me to do.
00:17:26.250 --> 00:17:36.739 Linda Marsanico: I may need to grieve using Kubler-ross's grieving stages. I may need to journal. I may need to talk to my psychologist about it. I may
00:17:37.250 --> 00:17:39.279 Linda Marsanico: reach out to a friend.
00:17:39.880 --> 00:17:41.970 Linda Marsanico: Issues are not to be avoided.
00:17:42.470 --> 00:17:50.919 Linda Marsanico: They need to be dealt with in a strategic way. There's a time. So I have a 4 stage model. When I work with clients. One is.
00:17:52.100 --> 00:17:53.549 Linda Marsanico: know what you're thinking.
00:17:54.060 --> 00:18:00.429 Linda Marsanico: and if you don't like what the thoughts are, don't fight with them, replace them with kind thoughts.
00:18:00.800 --> 00:18:09.510 Linda Marsanico: and then 2 is, know what your habitual behavioral response is, and if that doesn't satisfy you, let's plan to change the way you react.
00:18:09.960 --> 00:18:16.480 Linda Marsanico: Then I look at the childhood of the person not to dwell, but to understand the influences
00:18:16.840 --> 00:18:24.554 Linda Marsanico: we work on mantra meditation, and we let go of what doesn't serve us. That's the 4 stage model and
00:18:26.590 --> 00:18:32.970 Linda Marsanico: we work because life is so challenging, and is always presenting us with challenges.
00:18:33.830 --> 00:18:35.990 Linda Marsanico: So there's always work to do.
00:18:36.220 --> 00:18:45.429 Mira Brancu: I can. So here the clear integration, Linda, between psychological principles
00:18:45.920 --> 00:18:56.280 Mira Brancu: of you know, behavior change, thought patterns, reframing kind of behavioral, you know stuff and the sort of complementary
00:18:56.500 --> 00:19:01.480 Mira Brancu: addition of the higher order themes
00:19:01.720 --> 00:19:07.219 Mira Brancu: that we don't often infuse in therapy, which is like meaning making.
00:19:07.700 --> 00:19:08.730 Mira Brancu: And
00:19:09.940 --> 00:19:16.619 Mira Brancu: You know. How am I like loving myself? And how am I caring for myself? And how am I?
00:19:17.980 --> 00:19:24.079 Mira Brancu: You know, using other practices, other supplementary practices
00:19:24.210 --> 00:19:28.270 Mira Brancu: to also heal, recover, repair, repair.
00:19:28.270 --> 00:19:28.870 Linda Marsanico: Yes.
00:19:28.870 --> 00:19:29.850 Mira Brancu: Calm.
00:19:30.320 --> 00:19:37.210 Mira Brancu: you know, focus all of these things right? And and I think a lot of times therapy stays in the head.
00:19:38.190 --> 00:19:51.400 Mira Brancu: Right? And so like I do hear the holistic like, get back into your body. What else? What else does your body need? What's missing in addition to kind of like reframing
00:19:51.570 --> 00:19:55.549 Mira Brancu: some habit, changing all of the head stuff right?
00:19:56.580 --> 00:19:59.720 Linda Marsanico: And I also exercise myself, and I
00:19:59.950 --> 00:20:02.800 Linda Marsanico: encourage my clients to do that because
00:20:03.280 --> 00:20:09.169 Linda Marsanico: we need to have a healthy body. If we don't have health, it really overshadows our our presence.
00:20:09.460 --> 00:20:18.485 Mira Brancu: Yeah, absolutely. Some of the things that I heard around engagement is
00:20:19.530 --> 00:20:25.429 Mira Brancu: There are lots of little actions you can take. You don't have to.
00:20:25.620 --> 00:20:32.000 Mira Brancu: You don't have to take the same action in the same way, and it doesn't have to be a big action to make a big impact.
00:20:32.000 --> 00:20:32.750 Linda Marsanico: Right.
00:20:32.750 --> 00:20:35.880 Mira Brancu: So. I heard things like.
00:20:36.390 --> 00:20:43.930 Mira Brancu: And and you know I talk about this in just how to stay present
00:20:44.310 --> 00:20:50.690 Mira Brancu: and be there for your team or your organization as a leader, and the 1st thing is
00:20:51.680 --> 00:20:53.659 Mira Brancu: slow down enough to process
00:20:54.370 --> 00:21:04.119 Mira Brancu: how you feel about it first, st you really can't be there for other people. If you haven't processed the effect that it's having on you, and how you feel about it.
00:21:04.550 --> 00:21:07.649 Mira Brancu: And what you want to do with that right? So
00:21:08.120 --> 00:21:13.919 Mira Brancu: some people don't think that's an action. It is an action to slow down and just reflect.
00:21:15.130 --> 00:21:19.300 Linda Marsanico: It's a very important action which many people do not engage in.
00:21:19.480 --> 00:21:26.259 Linda Marsanico: They go right into reacting in anger or in whatever is on their mind. But to step back
00:21:26.470 --> 00:21:32.690 Linda Marsanico: allows us to decide. It gives us mastery. How do I wish to respond to this.
00:21:33.500 --> 00:21:34.160 Mira Brancu: Yes.
00:21:34.510 --> 00:21:36.040 Linda Marsanico: And we have a repertoire.
00:21:37.120 --> 00:21:38.410 Mira Brancu: Right do that.
00:21:38.670 --> 00:21:42.900 Mira Brancu: That's right. That's right. There are days, when
00:21:43.020 --> 00:21:48.499 Mira Brancu: I so so the practice that I'm I'm kind of using, and I think I can connect it to the
00:21:49.023 --> 00:21:59.629 Mira Brancu: you know. How am I loving on others? Right? Or how am I demonstrating some compassion or how am I sort of like using? The time is.
00:21:59.890 --> 00:22:01.999 Mira Brancu: I try very hard.
00:22:02.180 --> 00:22:05.880 Mira Brancu: If I'm going to read the news and it gets me agitated.
00:22:06.500 --> 00:22:09.270 Mira Brancu: I try very hard to do one thing about it.
00:22:09.270 --> 00:22:09.780 Linda Marsanico: Hmm.
00:22:09.780 --> 00:22:16.109 Mira Brancu: I don't leave it there right. I don't let it sit there in me. I do something, and some days
00:22:16.230 --> 00:22:20.169 Mira Brancu: I feel like the only thing I could do is
00:22:20.750 --> 00:22:23.150 Mira Brancu: share a couple of feelings online.
00:22:23.620 --> 00:22:31.399 Mira Brancu: And I think that's plenty like, I think people resonate with, Wow, she's got a lot of feelings there. And that's okay, you know. Other times
00:22:31.890 --> 00:22:35.139 Mira Brancu: I will contact some of my, you know, colleagues or friends
00:22:35.280 --> 00:22:45.849 Mira Brancu: and send them, you know. Some piece of information or some action that they could take or whatever other days. I decide I need rest.
00:22:46.320 --> 00:22:52.860 Mira Brancu: And I'm just gonna watch a mindless show right? Other times. I'm going to
00:22:52.990 --> 00:22:56.790 Mira Brancu: spend a little bit more time with, you know my husband walking around the block
00:22:56.950 --> 00:23:03.130 Mira Brancu: right? So there's but each one of these helps me sort of like, do something with the energy.
00:23:03.420 --> 00:23:06.120 Mira Brancu: And I'm curious because you do a lot of energy work.
00:23:06.480 --> 00:23:15.850 Mira Brancu: I'd love to hear kind of like how you use that to sort of recognize when
00:23:16.460 --> 00:23:28.400 Mira Brancu: people have some something that they need to to recognize about their energy or do something with their energy, or you know, I know you do a lot of energy work. Reiki is is a little bit of that. Would love to hear more about that.
00:23:28.400 --> 00:23:33.039 Linda Marsanico: Yes, I think taking action is a very important step.
00:23:34.190 --> 00:23:37.429 Linda Marsanico: Now there are times when I'm doing.
00:23:37.680 --> 00:23:41.890 Linda Marsanico: I do a lot of work on zoom, and my client is
00:23:42.010 --> 00:23:51.839 Linda Marsanico: really having a hard time, and we have an agreement, and they know that I am a Reiki person. I do vortex. They know all that. I'll start sending them energy.
00:23:52.100 --> 00:24:03.810 Linda Marsanico: I'll intend I'll do the the necessary preparation and send it to them if I feel that they're being
00:24:04.550 --> 00:24:12.049 Linda Marsanico: very negative. There are times. If I know someone very well, I'll say that's incorrect thinking.
00:24:12.340 --> 00:24:22.450 Linda Marsanico: Now, that's a very bold response. Only for a person who has a lot of resilience, and knows me very well. You're incorrectly thinking.
00:24:22.680 --> 00:24:27.779 Linda Marsanico: Have you considered it this way? How do you know it's that way? I'll have a dialogue about that
00:24:29.470 --> 00:24:32.419 Linda Marsanico: I might encourage them
00:24:32.600 --> 00:24:42.449 Linda Marsanico: to exercise, to to reach out to friends. There are a number of ways depending upon the situation and the strengths of the client.
00:24:42.710 --> 00:24:46.460 Linda Marsanico: But energy is is precious.
00:24:47.680 --> 00:24:48.190 Mira Brancu: Yes.
00:24:48.190 --> 00:24:59.980 Linda Marsanico: It's for us in the body. It's finite. You talked about resting a moment ago. I take naps during the day. A 20 min nap is like a power nap, and I remember one.
00:25:00.160 --> 00:25:06.700 Linda Marsanico: a male client. About 15 years ago I
00:25:07.140 --> 00:25:15.990 Linda Marsanico: discussed a meditation or visualization, and I said, Well, tell me. What was your experience with that? He said. It was like a power nap.
00:25:16.500 --> 00:25:17.090 Mira Brancu: Hmm.
00:25:17.340 --> 00:25:23.380 Linda Marsanico: Now, that's in the middle of a day, in the middle of a workday. Take a power nap, whether it's a meditation or actually
00:25:24.090 --> 00:25:25.369 Linda Marsanico: being on the couch.
00:25:25.630 --> 00:25:31.149 Mira Brancu: Amazing, amazing, Linda. I just realized we got so into it so fast
00:25:31.290 --> 00:25:45.839 Mira Brancu: that I'm way past our ad break. So we are going to get into this ad break. You are listening to the hard skills with me, Dr. Mira Branco and our guest today, Dr. Linda Sanico, the a train to Sedona is her podcast and her book. We'll be right back in just a moment.
00:27:28.630 --> 00:27:37.759 Mira Brancu: Welcome welcome back to the hard skills with me, Dr. Mira Branco and our guest today, Dr. Linda Marcannico of the A train to sedona podcast and book.
00:27:38.327 --> 00:27:56.649 Mira Brancu: We have a little segment here before our next ad break. But I really want to keep going with this energy work because as much as I don't talk about spirituality. Energy is something that I do focus on a lot, because, like you said.
00:27:57.300 --> 00:28:05.010 Mira Brancu: we only have so much, so many reserves, and sometimes people. A lot of times people put their energy into things
00:28:05.150 --> 00:28:16.210 Mira Brancu: that don't make them feel good, that steal away from who they are, what they want to be, how they want to show up all the things. So I would love to hear more from you about how you
00:28:16.330 --> 00:28:21.890 Mira Brancu: sort of all of the different ways that you explore energy work with people.
00:28:22.260 --> 00:28:26.089 Mira Brancu: and kind of the most common things that come up
00:28:26.320 --> 00:28:30.420 Mira Brancu: for you when you're kind of starting to explore that.
00:28:34.100 --> 00:28:35.430 Mira Brancu: Oh, and you're on mute again,
00:28:38.870 --> 00:28:51.729 Linda Marsanico: I'm so involved in energy not thinking about my speaking. Some of my clients come in, and they've never meditated, and I suggest a 2 to 3 min meditation.
00:28:52.800 --> 00:28:55.710 Linda Marsanico: Some clients are not ready to meditate.
00:28:56.420 --> 00:29:00.610 Linda Marsanico: There are 2 in their mind
00:29:00.820 --> 00:29:06.000 Linda Marsanico: in an intellectual way, in a concrete way, and I suggest a mantra.
00:29:06.730 --> 00:29:11.839 Linda Marsanico: because a mantra and my favorite prefix is, I am.
00:29:12.340 --> 00:29:29.590 Linda Marsanico: It's very powerful in the spiritual community, and you can attach something very constructive. I am loved, and some clients will say, but I don't feel loved, I said, well, you could fake it until you make it, or you could develop. I am working on feeling loved.
00:29:29.590 --> 00:29:30.180 Mira Brancu: Hmm.
00:29:30.180 --> 00:29:37.330 Linda Marsanico: And a mantra could be. Om. It could be. I am. My preference is the I am.
00:29:37.990 --> 00:29:43.409 Linda Marsanico: and it serves to focus the mind when thoughts come in that we don't want.
00:29:43.570 --> 00:29:46.639 Linda Marsanico: So if something happens to me and and something
00:29:46.790 --> 00:30:05.539 Linda Marsanico: is just rolling around in my mind, I'll use a mantra again and again, so that eventually the only thing on my mind is the mantra, and that relaxes everything blood, pressure, pulse, you know. If you can keep your mind focused and not
00:30:05.780 --> 00:30:06.940 Linda Marsanico: out of control.
00:30:08.910 --> 00:30:17.350 Linda Marsanico: So a lot of clients do meditate. Sometimes we'll meditate during a session, although a lot of times clients want to talk to me.
00:30:17.470 --> 00:30:21.289 Linda Marsanico: They just want, you know, a lot of us don't have anyone to listen to us.
00:30:22.010 --> 00:30:29.490 Linda Marsanico: And that's a big part of Freud said. Really listening is, he said. The relationship is the most important thing.
00:30:29.630 --> 00:30:36.550 Linda Marsanico: I think listening feels like feeling loved if it's like acceptance. And with all the
00:30:37.030 --> 00:30:40.989 Linda Marsanico: technology and the phones and the texting
00:30:41.140 --> 00:30:46.409 Linda Marsanico: people don't communicate so much anymore. I think a lot of people are isolated.
00:30:47.610 --> 00:30:52.049 Linda Marsanico: I think millennials and the Gen. X's.
00:30:52.230 --> 00:30:57.360 Linda Marsanico: The younger ones who have grown up with practically a phone in in their hand.
00:30:58.080 --> 00:31:04.350 Linda Marsanico: And they really need to develop skills that allow them to interact.
00:31:04.720 --> 00:31:07.149 Linda Marsanico: We need that we're social beings.
00:31:08.060 --> 00:31:11.429 Linda Marsanico: So I do encourage interaction.
00:31:11.790 --> 00:31:17.140 Linda Marsanico: What else for energy? I might say, if you're feeling afraid.
00:31:18.100 --> 00:31:21.969 Linda Marsanico: just surround yourself with violet light, it's a very powerful energy.
00:31:22.470 --> 00:31:30.170 Linda Marsanico: And in my sheet for higher vibration living which I have on my website, which I'll talk about later.
00:31:30.480 --> 00:31:37.380 Linda Marsanico: It has 7 exercises to bring vibration to a higher degree and to bring the focus to the present moment.
00:31:37.840 --> 00:31:47.259 Linda Marsanico: So if I'm feeling, or my clients are feeling preoccupied, distracted, worried.
00:31:47.700 --> 00:31:50.840 Linda Marsanico: Getting into the present moment is like the mantra.
00:31:51.510 --> 00:31:56.529 Linda Marsanico: So I get into the present moment, and it's very effective.
00:31:58.510 --> 00:32:05.049 Mira Brancu: Yeah, I love all of these. Listening feels like feeling loved.
00:32:05.180 --> 00:32:06.210 Mira Brancu: I just.
00:32:07.870 --> 00:32:09.804 Mira Brancu: Totally adore that
00:32:10.830 --> 00:32:17.350 Mira Brancu: And you're right, you know, when, when we don't feel.
00:32:17.640 --> 00:32:21.329 Mira Brancu: listen to, we might replace it with all kinds of other things, too.
00:32:21.330 --> 00:32:22.559 Linda Marsanico: Oh, yes, that is.
00:32:22.560 --> 00:32:27.760 Mira Brancu: Are not actually long term helpful to us, or healthy for us.
00:32:27.760 --> 00:32:30.330 Linda Marsanico: Absolutely and.
00:32:30.330 --> 00:32:31.639 Mira Brancu: And yeah, go ahead.
00:32:31.640 --> 00:32:41.799 Linda Marsanico: Spending too much drinking, too much eating too much just being very off balance.
00:32:42.730 --> 00:32:48.129 Linda Marsanico: To try to feel, to replace that emptiness.
00:32:48.550 --> 00:32:58.569 Linda Marsanico: and the only way to to heal that void. And I say this, I think of the void which is big today. I think of it as being on a bell curve.
00:32:59.190 --> 00:33:03.090 Linda Marsanico: Roughly, 80% of us void
00:33:03.200 --> 00:33:06.510 Linda Marsanico: right? And then you have the tails, no void and all void.
00:33:06.640 --> 00:33:11.880 Linda Marsanico: And so the only way to heal it is to really look within
00:33:12.020 --> 00:33:18.770 Linda Marsanico: and work on those issues, to feel full, to feel. So. That's why my 1st goal for everyone.
00:33:18.770 --> 00:33:19.110 Mira Brancu: Okay.
00:33:19.110 --> 00:33:21.610 Linda Marsanico: Is for them to love themselves.
00:33:22.090 --> 00:33:28.989 Mira Brancu: Yeah, that makes a lot of sense. I have a million thoughts going on my mind, but I know our engineer is yelling at me to go
00:33:28.990 --> 00:33:29.780 Mira Brancu: back to my admin.
00:33:29.780 --> 00:33:47.940 Mira Brancu: So we are going back to the ad break. You're listening to me, Dr. Mira Branco, on the hard skills with my guest today, Dr. Linda Marsenico of the A. Train to Sedona, Podcast, also on Talkradionyc as well as book author of the A train to Sedona. And we'll be right back in just a moment.
00:35:19.280 --> 00:35:27.859 Mira Brancu: Welcome welcome back to the hard skills with me, Dr. Mira Branco and our guest today, Dr. Linda Marcannico of the A train to sedona. Podcast
00:35:28.638 --> 00:35:36.010 Mira Brancu: okay. So we were talking about listening, feeling like feeling loved.
00:35:36.510 --> 00:35:37.640 Mira Brancu: And
00:35:37.830 --> 00:35:48.019 Mira Brancu: how many people right now feel more isolated than ever before? I often feel like we are hyper connected.
00:35:48.200 --> 00:35:51.199 Mira Brancu: and yet in a sea of disconnection.
00:35:52.200 --> 00:35:56.100 Mira Brancu: And you were talking about. You know how.
00:35:58.160 --> 00:36:02.649 Mira Brancu: It's important to sort of make sure that you're not misusing
00:36:03.290 --> 00:36:10.430 Mira Brancu: the way that you're engaging in the world, whether online or in person, in a way that
00:36:11.060 --> 00:36:16.229 Mira Brancu: it's replacing the emptiness with things that aren't loving for you.
00:36:16.960 --> 00:36:26.140 Mira Brancu: And that that reminded me of kind of where we started with the ego being fear based
00:36:26.400 --> 00:36:30.992 Mira Brancu: right? And how we see a lot of
00:36:32.160 --> 00:36:35.750 Mira Brancu: a lot of sort of an increase in.
00:36:35.950 --> 00:36:38.572 Mira Brancu: And I'm gonna get real real
00:36:39.800 --> 00:36:43.570 Mira Brancu: semi-political here. But we're seeing an increase in authoritarianism.
00:36:43.920 --> 00:36:55.160 Mira Brancu: And by by people who are filling their sort of ego emptiness.
00:36:55.980 --> 00:37:02.579 Mira Brancu: With fear, who are using fear-based methods, who are instilling fear
00:37:03.250 --> 00:37:16.440 Mira Brancu: in order to, in my opinion, get love in all of kind of the wrong ways. And when I think about resiliency at the individual level and societal level.
00:37:16.560 --> 00:37:21.490 Mira Brancu: it is all about not succumbing to that.
00:37:23.750 --> 00:37:36.880 Mira Brancu: You know, to to that kind of like fear based emptiness, but rather using, leaning into
00:37:37.310 --> 00:37:44.250 Mira Brancu: love and compassion, loving ourselves, but also loving others, having compassion for ourselves, and also having compassion for others.
00:37:44.360 --> 00:37:49.960 Mira Brancu: I think it's a really really hard skill to master.
00:37:50.180 --> 00:37:50.810 Linda Marsanico: White.
00:37:50.950 --> 00:37:52.010 Mira Brancu: Develop.
00:37:53.703 --> 00:37:54.990 Mira Brancu: I'm curious.
00:37:55.670 --> 00:38:01.359 Mira Brancu: What do you see? What? What does it actually take to develop this?
00:38:01.630 --> 00:38:10.019 Mira Brancu: How long does it take? How hard is it. I know that it's different for for everybody. But what do you? What do you see that it takes really.
00:38:12.090 --> 00:38:20.339 Linda Marsanico: It takes a lot of work, and we interrupt all the time.
00:38:21.420 --> 00:38:24.969 Linda Marsanico: And we have reactions to those interactions.
00:38:26.400 --> 00:38:33.760 Linda Marsanico: So in taking responsibility for myself, and having an intention to be on my path, I asked myself.
00:38:34.490 --> 00:38:43.569 Linda Marsanico: I don't like the way this feels. This person said this, and I feel this way, what does? Instead of blaming the other person? What does this say about me?
00:38:43.870 --> 00:38:45.470 Linda Marsanico: What can I learn?
00:38:45.680 --> 00:38:47.469 Linda Marsanico: Do I have to change something.
00:38:48.440 --> 00:38:51.039 Linda Marsanico: and I I go with them, because the journey
00:38:51.160 --> 00:38:56.160 Linda Marsanico: to love and compassion and eventually enlightenment, is a journey within.
00:39:00.290 --> 00:39:03.309 Linda Marsanico: And we have so many opportunities
00:39:04.230 --> 00:39:19.039 Linda Marsanico: when we're willing to look at them. And I feel now this is a spiritual perspective, that universe will continue to send the same situations to us, not to punish us, but to help us to grow.
00:39:19.430 --> 00:39:23.839 Linda Marsanico: and some people now, eventually we all get to the same place.
00:39:24.420 --> 00:39:29.730 Linda Marsanico: but some of us now are more evolved, and some of us
00:39:30.690 --> 00:39:44.309 Linda Marsanico: have a lot of. We all have a lot of work to do that my father used to say. You're in private practice. When do you get practice to get perfect, you know. So there's no, there's no end. There's only a beginning
00:39:44.440 --> 00:39:52.550 Linda Marsanico: and more plateaus and more learning, and I find that the issues become more nuanced and challenging.
00:39:52.660 --> 00:39:59.560 Linda Marsanico: so the more that I grow, the more is that is expected of me, and sometimes I fail.
00:40:00.200 --> 00:40:12.810 Linda Marsanico: and I pick myself up, dust myself off. There's a song that says that. And I start all over again. And the thing is, the self-talk is very important. And I say, Okay, I made a mistake. If I were
00:40:12.930 --> 00:40:23.239 Linda Marsanico: not speaking to myself correctly, I might say, oh, I made a mistake. I can't do anything right. I just feel miserable, but I can correct that
00:40:23.500 --> 00:40:25.319 Linda Marsanico: by saying I made a mistake.
00:40:25.790 --> 00:40:28.999 Linda Marsanico: I'm going to do it differently next time, and I'll learn from it.
00:40:29.760 --> 00:40:35.440 Linda Marsanico: There's a lot of very when I say that even I feel the difference in the energy.
00:40:36.200 --> 00:40:42.610 Linda Marsanico: You see, and the self-talk is so important, and we can learn to do that when we're willing to do it.
00:40:42.820 --> 00:40:46.770 Linda Marsanico: And for those who are not so pleasant.
00:40:47.040 --> 00:40:56.179 Linda Marsanico: They're here to teach us something. So the idea is, I remember working on the issue of my mother in counseling in spiritual circles, and I thought
00:40:56.610 --> 00:40:59.939 Linda Marsanico: I actually did it. I am
00:41:00.320 --> 00:41:02.829 Linda Marsanico: loving, and I've forgiven, and I'm
00:41:03.050 --> 00:41:14.199 Linda Marsanico: better. At this I go to a retreat and a woman triggers something about my mother, and I thought I have more work to do so. The idea is that I can see
00:41:15.270 --> 00:41:23.209 Linda Marsanico: my mother, whom I love dearly. I could see her as I joke warts and pimples, but I see the beauty around her.
00:41:23.320 --> 00:41:29.039 Linda Marsanico: and that's what we need to do to those who are hateful as hard as that is.
00:41:29.490 --> 00:41:34.359 Linda Marsanico: we are all. We are all children of the same Creator, and
00:41:34.950 --> 00:41:41.609 Linda Marsanico: rather than send hate, because, you know, if I send hate out there. I'm holding it against myself as well. You see
00:41:41.760 --> 00:41:43.600 Linda Marsanico: the poison I'm putting out.
00:41:44.250 --> 00:41:45.920 Linda Marsanico: I'm drinking myself.
00:41:46.810 --> 00:41:48.543 Mira Brancu: And I also think that
00:41:49.970 --> 00:41:54.429 Mira Brancu: You know why. Why perpetuate
00:41:54.860 --> 00:42:09.056 Mira Brancu: something that you already don't like? Right? Why, why would we want to do that. As you're talking. It's reminding me of this other podcast. That I've heard. And let me see if I could
00:42:09.640 --> 00:42:15.010 Mira Brancu: pull it out quickly on my phone here. I probably won't be able to find it fast enough. Let me see.
00:42:15.881 --> 00:42:18.969 Mira Brancu: Oh, yeah, a therapist can't say that
00:42:19.250 --> 00:42:22.050 Mira Brancu: is this, podcast. I don't know if you're familiar with it.
00:42:22.050 --> 00:42:24.090 Linda Marsanico: I don't know podcast. Is it.
00:42:24.090 --> 00:42:26.270 Mira Brancu: A therapist can't say that.
00:42:27.010 --> 00:42:33.340 Mira Brancu: And one of the episodes that I really loved, that you're reminding me of is about spirituality.
00:42:33.460 --> 00:42:37.550 Mira Brancu: and how the you know, origins of therapy
00:42:38.466 --> 00:42:51.420 Mira Brancu: came from partly mysticism within the Jewish community, right? There was a lot of Jewish therapists, Freud, you know, folks, and and when it was brought to the Us
00:42:51.700 --> 00:42:59.430 Mira Brancu: they started sort of doing a lot more sort of empiricism, and, you know, kind of like removing the mysticism from it.
00:43:00.040 --> 00:43:01.020 Mira Brancu: And
00:43:01.350 --> 00:43:11.079 Mira Brancu: yet, when you are kind of doing therapy, there's there's a lot of storytelling, and there's a lot of sort of embodiment, and there's a lot of
00:43:11.910 --> 00:43:12.630 Mira Brancu: like
00:43:13.550 --> 00:43:24.286 Mira Brancu: high order experiences around it, and I think you're bringing that back. You probably should should hear it out and see. But that's what I'm I'm
00:43:25.250 --> 00:43:35.616 Mira Brancu: picking up on as kind of what you're bringing to it, because you're saying you're using the same concepts as you know. Kind of a
00:43:36.620 --> 00:43:49.379 Mira Brancu: traditional Us. Therapist. Cbt, trained kind of behavioral. You know, therapy trained person would like reframing. You know your thoughts identifying when you're having
00:43:50.290 --> 00:44:02.979 Mira Brancu: you know thoughts that are, you know, creating cognitive fallacies or biases, or those kinds of things, and stopping yourself and recognizing. But you're adding another piece to it.
00:44:03.130 --> 00:44:08.470 Mira Brancu: that, I think, is often missing from
00:44:10.040 --> 00:44:16.449 Mira Brancu: Why would we do this right like? What is the what is the purpose of retraining myself
00:44:16.590 --> 00:44:19.649 Mira Brancu: right? And you're adding the well.
00:44:20.280 --> 00:44:27.849 Mira Brancu: if your goal is to bring more love into the world, or if your goal is compassion, or to be a better person or to love yourself.
00:44:28.260 --> 00:44:32.030 Mira Brancu: That's why you would do all of this stuff. That's why you would engage in this kind of work.
00:44:32.360 --> 00:44:37.060 Linda Marsanico: Absolutely. Yes, and our work is very special work.
00:44:37.540 --> 00:44:39.870 Linda Marsanico: I think it's very
00:44:40.480 --> 00:44:46.500 Linda Marsanico: gratifying. It brings me a lot of joy, and I wrote the book as a memoir. It's a memoir
00:44:46.940 --> 00:45:07.570 Linda Marsanico: to have my voice be heard, but to inspire other people's journey, to make it more efficient to make it more clear that this is one way you might consider doing it. One of my clients happened to pick it up, and she said, Linda, it's a guidebook, she said. It's a page, Turner, I said. Oh, I'm deeply touched.
00:45:08.210 --> 00:45:14.240 Linda Marsanico: So helping others, and making the world a better place is
00:45:14.570 --> 00:45:20.120 Linda Marsanico: a worthy goal, and of course, developing ourselves is the way to do that.
00:45:20.480 --> 00:45:21.320 Linda Marsanico: Basically.
00:45:21.320 --> 00:45:23.350 Mira Brancu: Absolutely, absolutely.
00:45:23.580 --> 00:45:48.090 Mira Brancu: So we're reaching another ad break. This is our last ad break. And when we come back I want to get into some of those practical tips you started sharing around girding resiliency. You started sharing around meditation and mantras and things like that. I'd love to hear a little bit more. You have a tip sheet. So that's what we're going to do when we come back from this ad break, you're listening to the hard skills, and we'll be right back in just a moment.
00:47:25.980 --> 00:47:52.758 Mira Brancu: Welcome. Welcome back to the hard skills with me. Dr. Mira Branku of the hard skills, and Dr. Linda Marcannico of the A train to Sedona, our sister. Podcast on our show through talkradio dot. Nyc, so we're we've been talking about all the different ways that you can gird resiliency through various spiritual practices. And
00:47:53.900 --> 00:47:59.029 Mira Brancu: I'd love to hear some tips from you, and I want to start with a couple that you already started with.
00:47:59.530 --> 00:48:04.600 Mira Brancu: Which was meditation and mantras. Meditation you mentioned
00:48:04.830 --> 00:48:15.889 Mira Brancu: can be a little bit harder for people who are in their head a lot, or feel like, you know, kind of. They have to move all the time. That's me. And I had learned
00:48:16.340 --> 00:48:20.119 Mira Brancu: that you don't have to number one. Meditate
00:48:20.605 --> 00:48:38.270 Mira Brancu: in the way that you like sometimes see on TV, like you sit there for 20 min trying to get deeper and deeper into. You know. Some kind of state you can meditate while you walk, and just focus on every step and every breath. Right and you know, I I thought that was
00:48:38.730 --> 00:48:59.680 Mira Brancu: you know, really helpful, and that it's not about judging how well or terrible you're meditating right? Because that's that's beside the point. The point is, you're noticing, and then you're letting it go, and you're noticing, and then you're letting it go. But an even easier one that you mentioned
00:49:00.040 --> 00:49:05.229 Mira Brancu: is Mantras, and I actually love mantras. I have shared on this show.
00:49:05.340 --> 00:49:09.120 Mira Brancu: I had a mantra for 10 years. Good enough is good enough
00:49:10.160 --> 00:49:13.220 Mira Brancu: is my way of beating out my perfectionism.
00:49:13.220 --> 00:49:13.750 Linda Marsanico: You're doing.
00:49:13.750 --> 00:49:18.350 Mira Brancu: Time I noticed it I'd say, good enough is good enough. Mira let it go.
00:49:18.680 --> 00:49:37.259 Mira Brancu: And yeah, it took 10 years, but like it, it worked every year it got better and better, and now I wish I was a little bit more perfectionistic again. It will never happen. I never want it back again. But you know, every once in a while I'm like boy that could have been better.
00:49:37.810 --> 00:49:39.540 Linda Marsanico: I share that as well. Mira.
00:49:39.540 --> 00:49:39.855 Mira Brancu: Just.
00:49:40.170 --> 00:49:47.189 Linda Marsanico: Want to be perfect, which is ridiculous. There's no sense of. There's no idea of perfection. Everyone has a different perspective on it.
00:49:47.410 --> 00:49:53.470 Linda Marsanico: and I used to say, Oh, I made a mistake and feel horrible so! And now
00:49:53.850 --> 00:50:04.520 Linda Marsanico: I am a member of toastmasters, and I was so distracted I became the toastmaster for the evening to be the toastmaster. There are so many things happening. You have to be like this.
00:50:04.800 --> 00:50:12.229 Linda Marsanico: I was terrible in front of people in front, and I'm so seasoned. And I said to myself.
00:50:13.090 --> 00:50:14.399 Linda Marsanico: you made a mistake.
00:50:14.580 --> 00:50:19.119 Linda Marsanico: Be focused the next time, and it was a big plateau for me to reach.
00:50:19.805 --> 00:50:20.490 Mira Brancu: Wow!
00:50:20.670 --> 00:50:22.809 Mira Brancu: Wow! That's huge. That's huge.
00:50:23.056 --> 00:50:23.550 Linda Marsanico: It was.
00:50:23.550 --> 00:50:33.140 Mira Brancu: So, yeah, tell us any other practical tips that people could start thinking about now, based on everything that we've talked about. They could
00:50:33.250 --> 00:50:39.070 Mira Brancu: sort of start thinking how to gird their resiliency, using spiritual practice.
00:50:40.040 --> 00:50:41.970 Linda Marsanico: Breathing is very important.
00:50:42.620 --> 00:50:46.960 Linda Marsanico: My favorite breathing technique is to breathe in 4.
00:50:47.640 --> 00:50:51.680 Linda Marsanico: Hold for 4, exhale for 8.
00:50:52.510 --> 00:50:55.909 Linda Marsanico: Now we could do it if you should wish to do it. I want to say that
00:50:56.730 --> 00:51:08.729 Linda Marsanico: appropriate breathing, like that oxygenates the cells, reduces blood pressure, reduces the pulse most importantly.
00:51:09.170 --> 00:51:14.709 Linda Marsanico: engages the parasympathetic nervous system to come and calm the sympathetic nervous system.
00:51:15.150 --> 00:51:22.790 Linda Marsanico: So I've said recently, it doesn't matter whether you're giving a presentation, a talk whether you're seeing the love of your life
00:51:23.350 --> 00:51:29.169 Linda Marsanico: breathe, we have that ability. It's just that we need to practice.
00:51:29.800 --> 00:51:43.830 Linda Marsanico: So 4, 4, 8 is one. There's 4 square breathing. Some people do 4, 4, and something else, and something else. I like the simplicity of 4, 4, 8. Some people like this, 4 by 4 by 4.
00:51:44.200 --> 00:51:49.050 Linda Marsanico: This is a major strategy, because
00:51:49.300 --> 00:51:57.539 Linda Marsanico: when I began the A train to Sedona broadcast the 1st time I I thought, Oh, my goodness! It was like trial by fire.
00:51:58.300 --> 00:52:13.289 Linda Marsanico: and I would breathe and breathe, and it would keep my anxiety, my stress level at a certain point, because I was breathing. My body was doing what I was making it do, and it helps so much.
00:52:13.960 --> 00:52:14.679 Linda Marsanico: Now the one.
00:52:14.680 --> 00:52:17.240 Mira Brancu: Or if that one I'm I'm just curious.
00:52:17.380 --> 00:52:26.399 Mira Brancu: is part of it. Also that you are paying attention to something other than all of your other thoughts
00:52:26.620 --> 00:52:28.020 Mira Brancu: is that sort of like.
00:52:28.020 --> 00:52:34.320 Linda Marsanico: It's all part of the same thing really having a disciplined mind.
00:52:35.100 --> 00:52:42.190 Linda Marsanico: I think that the fastest computer known to us is here.
00:52:42.970 --> 00:52:46.910 Linda Marsanico: Now, spiritually. This is the brain, and this is the mind.
00:52:47.680 --> 00:52:52.899 Linda Marsanico: So the brain is the receptor, and the mind is here in meditation. We 1st
00:52:53.860 --> 00:52:55.720 Linda Marsanico: get out of the thinking mind.
00:52:56.390 --> 00:53:00.660 Linda Marsanico: We start them to relax, and we go to a deeper place.
00:53:01.790 --> 00:53:07.749 Linda Marsanico: It's like being at the gym where you're you're repeating like a bicep.
00:53:08.090 --> 00:53:17.439 Linda Marsanico: But you can't do it just once or twice you do it so that the muscle develops. And with all of this it takes an intention and an attitude of responsibility.
00:53:19.860 --> 00:53:29.830 Linda Marsanico: So with the willingness, there's all these wonderful techniques. Staying in the present moment is so effective because
00:53:30.210 --> 00:53:39.269 Linda Marsanico: when we're stressed or distracted, I at times could have the mind. Just fly. It's going going, going, Linda.
00:53:40.310 --> 00:53:41.340 Linda Marsanico: step back
00:53:42.870 --> 00:53:49.519 Linda Marsanico: and get into the present moment, and I can use a mantra. I could breathe. But I need to focus
00:53:50.100 --> 00:53:52.719 Linda Marsanico: because I want a disciplined mind.
00:53:53.160 --> 00:53:56.537 Mira Brancu: Yeah, yeah, those are great. Those are great.
00:53:57.790 --> 00:54:07.070 Mira Brancu: how can people find out more about you? Because I know you have a lot of different ways of working with people. Where can they go? How can they find out more.
00:54:07.860 --> 00:54:11.680 Linda Marsanico: My website, Linda marcannico.com.
00:54:13.340 --> 00:54:17.350 Linda Marsanico: And on the website, yes, that's my
00:54:18.960 --> 00:54:28.219 Linda Marsanico: cheat sheet for high vibration living. You can download it for free on the landing page you can join my mailing list.
00:54:28.350 --> 00:54:32.289 Linda Marsanico: You can download it and have it for yourself.
00:54:32.410 --> 00:54:39.040 Linda Marsanico: because in these very unpredictable times we need all the skills in our toolkit
00:54:40.130 --> 00:54:47.900 Linda Marsanico: to be resilient. We can build up resilience. Some of us are born with it. I wasn't. And so I developed it.
00:54:49.090 --> 00:54:51.989 Linda Marsanico: You can also buy a copy of my book
00:54:52.120 --> 00:54:57.549 Linda Marsanico: on the website, lindamarsenico.com on. Buy the book page, which is on the far right.
00:54:58.520 --> 00:55:01.990 Linda Marsanico: and you can buy a signed copy
00:55:02.380 --> 00:55:04.750 Linda Marsanico: which I will mail to you personally.
00:55:05.220 --> 00:55:16.660 Linda Marsanico: or you can buy an unsigned copy from retail and bookstores. If you wanted to read the 1st 7 pages for free. You can go to amazon.com for that.
00:55:17.620 --> 00:55:27.149 Linda Marsanico: I also on one of the pages. I think the contact. Linda page I have a free meditation. The earth, sky, meditation, which is a meditation. That's it.
00:55:27.560 --> 00:55:52.040 Linda Marsanico: that I learned in Sedona, which is a beautiful mingling of Father sky, masculine energy from the sky, bringing it into the body and delving into the mother earth, and bringing the feminine energy up to commingle, because we can act from the feminine side, which is said to be here, the masculine side on the right, but rather in the middle.
00:55:52.610 --> 00:55:54.549 Linda Marsanico: So we want to act from here.
00:55:54.940 --> 00:55:57.359 Linda Marsanico: where we have all of our possibilities.
00:55:58.520 --> 00:55:59.340 Mira Brancu: Amazing.
00:55:59.490 --> 00:56:04.479 Mira Brancu: What is one thing out of all the things we talked about that you want people to take away from you today.
00:56:05.460 --> 00:56:07.130 Linda Marsanico: I think millennials
00:56:08.320 --> 00:56:15.859 Linda Marsanico: can get work that they like and even love. I think we've done a lot of prep work. I'm a baby boomer.
00:56:15.970 --> 00:56:23.189 Linda Marsanico: And so that's what I see for the millennials. And I see the millennials changing the economy and changing the workplace.
00:56:23.310 --> 00:56:33.590 Linda Marsanico: Get work that you like that you love, so you can jump out of bed in the morning to meet your colleagues, and I also want to say that compassion is an everyday experience.
00:56:34.130 --> 00:56:37.679 Linda Marsanico: and our spiritual journey is all about us.
00:56:39.240 --> 00:56:48.489 Mira Brancu: Beautiful, beautiful! Thank you so much, Linda. And audience, what did you take away? What's 1 small change that you can implement this week.
00:56:48.690 --> 00:56:50.640 Mira Brancu: based on what you learned from Linda.
00:56:50.770 --> 00:56:52.909 Mira Brancu: Share it with us on Linkedin
00:56:53.280 --> 00:57:07.809 Mira Brancu: and@talkradio.nyc. So we can cheer you on. We are also on Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, Twitch, apple spotify Amazon Podcasts all over the place. If today's episode resonated with you, share it with a colleague, leave a review.
00:57:08.140 --> 00:57:30.859 Mira Brancu: and if you're also looking for more personalized support or leadership or team coaching head to towerscope.com actually go towerscope.com to schedule a consultation. Thank you to talkradio dot Nyc. For hosting together. We'll navigate the complexities of leadership and emerge stronger on the other side. Thank you for joining me today, Linda Marcannico on this.
00:57:30.860 --> 00:57:33.190 Linda Marsanico: Thank you so much. Thank you so much for having me.
00:57:33.190 --> 00:57:41.960 Mira Brancu: Loved having you on. This is Dr. Mira Branco, signing off with Dr. Linda Marcannico up until next time. Stay steady, stay present.
00:57:42.070 --> 00:57:44.049 Mira Brancu: and keep building those hard skills.
00:57:44.330 --> 00:57:45.550 Mira Brancu: Bye, everybody.
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