This week, on The Conscious Consultant Hour, Sam is pleased to welcome CEO and Executive Coach, LeeAnn Mallorie.
LeeAnn helps forward-thinking, driven women get better results and impact more people without burning out. She teaches them how to access the wisdom of their bodies, recover their native superpowers, and trust their intuition.
As the founder of Guts & Grace and Leading in Motion, LeeAnn has supported leaders in organizations of all sizes, from a wide range of industries.
Her latest book is Guts & Grace: A Woman's Guide to Full-Bodied Leadership.
LeeAnn learned the hard way how we sabotage our own success—and she spent a decade uncovering the transformative, life-changing insights that she now shares with women leaders.
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Sam Liebowitz opens The Conscious Consultant Hour by reflecting on the magic of life and how true transformation happens when we surrender control and allow for serendipity. He shares insights on how rigid expectations can stifle the surprises that the universe has in store, urging listeners to embrace the unknown with an open heart. His guest, LeeAnn Mallorie, an executive coach and author, joins the conversation, sharing her unexpected journey from a small-town upbringing to guiding high-powered women in leadership, emphasizing the power of intuition, embodiment, and resilience in creating meaningful impact.
LeeAnn Mallorie shares how her journey into embodiment and leadership transformation led her to create Guts and Grace, a program designed to help women leaders reclaim their power beyond societal limitations. She explains how integrating somatic practices, sacred sexuality, and even plant medicine deepened her understanding of leadership and transformation, guiding women to access their full potential without burnout. As conversations around trauma, feminine leadership, and embodiment become more mainstream, she highlights the importance of balancing peak experiences with daily practices to create lasting personal and professional change.
LeeAnn Mallorie explores the diverse ways female leaders engage with embodiment work, from high-achieving professionals initially resistant to somatic practices to spiritually attuned women struggling to integrate their intuitive side into corporate spaces. She highlights how burnout, personal crises, or a desire for deeper impact often serve as catalysts for transformation, pushing women to embrace a more holistic and embodied leadership approach. As societal and workplace pressures intensify, she emphasizes the growing importance of integrating body awareness, emotional intelligence, and self-trust to navigate leadership with resilience and authenticity.
LeeAnn Mallorie’s book, Guts and Grace, is designed for women leaders who are either burned out from the demands of leadership or seeking to integrate their deeper spiritual and self-care practices into their professional lives. She emphasizes the balance between resilience and purpose, guiding women toward an embodied leadership style that is both sustainable and impactful. In discussing the rapid evolution of technology, she encourages leaders to remain grounded and conscious of how these advancements shape human interaction, while also exploring innovative ways to build more collaborative, feminine-driven business models.
00:00:45.310 --> 00:00:55.969 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Good afternoon, my conscious co-creators. Welcome to another edition of the conscious Consultant hour awakening humanity.
00:00:56.490 --> 00:01:04.890 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Very, very pleased that you are all here with me today. We have a wonderful show in store for you, as we always do.
00:01:05.180 --> 00:01:11.829 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and and this one is is going to be especially good. We have a wonderful guest. I think you'll really really like her.
00:01:12.528 --> 00:01:20.609 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: But of course, before we get to introducing my guest first, st of course, we have my blog post from a couple of years ago, just taking them in order.
00:01:20.970 --> 00:01:25.790 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And this one actually kind of a nice one. I think my guest will like this one.
00:01:25.900 --> 00:01:30.500 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: The title of this blog post is the magic of life
00:01:31.040 --> 00:01:33.609 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: happens when we least expect it.
00:01:35.240 --> 00:01:37.590 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: We all have a desire to control.
00:01:38.240 --> 00:01:40.839 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: to control our lives and our futures.
00:01:41.270 --> 00:01:46.649 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: The thought of being out of control usually terrifies us.
00:01:47.620 --> 00:01:58.460 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Anything we can, anything can feel better than losing control. So we grab onto it and hold the things we can tightly
00:01:58.860 --> 00:02:03.670 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: for. At least we can have some sense of control that way.
00:02:04.500 --> 00:02:11.990 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: It comforts us to control our diets, our exercise, our daily routines.
00:02:12.370 --> 00:02:21.670 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: In fact, we might become so attached to our routines that we cannot allow anything to change them.
00:02:21.800 --> 00:02:29.180 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: We make the routine more important than what it is that we really want to achieve.
00:02:30.020 --> 00:02:31.660 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: which is to be happy.
00:02:32.240 --> 00:02:41.950 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: to infuse our lives with joy and fun, living life, living life for the adventure and the pure pleasure of it.
00:02:42.570 --> 00:02:51.480 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Yet we often do not realize that by holding on so tightly to control, we leave little room for magic.
00:02:52.140 --> 00:03:00.819 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: for life cannot bring us the serendipitous connections when there is no space for us to receive them.
00:03:01.970 --> 00:03:14.330 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: It is only when we loosen our grip on controlling our lives, that life has a chance to get in and bring us something beyond our imagination.
00:03:14.870 --> 00:03:20.590 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: When we try to force magic to happen. It never does.
00:03:21.150 --> 00:03:30.529 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: grabbing and holding ourselves so tightly to what we have planned out for ourselves, squeezes the very juice out of life.
00:03:31.910 --> 00:03:41.820 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: We do this by holding our expectations so firmly that nothing can come to us outside of our expectations.
00:03:43.100 --> 00:03:49.059 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Yet the real magic happens when we least expect it.
00:03:49.490 --> 00:03:57.019 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: for it is only when we allow ourselves to get lost, that we can find something unexpected.
00:03:57.280 --> 00:04:05.680 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: It is only when we step forward without any idea of what we are getting ourselves into that
00:04:05.950 --> 00:04:09.000 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: life can truly surprise us.
00:04:09.500 --> 00:04:15.769 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: We might be walking a different route to our home one day when we suddenly meet the love of our life.
00:04:16.029 --> 00:04:25.499 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: or perhaps we travel to a foreign land where we don't speak the language, only to discover a connection to somebody you would have never met otherwise.
00:04:26.250 --> 00:04:36.170 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: In so many ways we learn the most about ourselves and about life when we least expect it.
00:04:37.410 --> 00:04:44.459 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: for any expectation narrows down possibilities and constricts opportunities
00:04:45.140 --> 00:04:55.379 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: when we are open, receptive, and fluid, then life can present us with a myriad of surprising options that we never imagined
00:04:56.220 --> 00:05:01.639 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: being willing to drop. Our expectation is a great place to start
00:05:02.100 --> 00:05:09.889 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: allowing ourselves to get lost, both figuratively and literally, can surely help
00:05:10.710 --> 00:05:16.749 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: lightening our grip and releasing our expectations will surely bring us closer.
00:05:17.460 --> 00:05:26.299 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: closer to those moments when life can open our eyes and bless us with something truly miraculous.
00:05:28.040 --> 00:05:29.040 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: So
00:05:36.500 --> 00:05:41.849 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: this this post I wrote a couple of years ago.
00:05:43.168 --> 00:05:45.660 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Kind of came to me.
00:05:46.340 --> 00:05:56.120 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: After after a ceremony, where, at the beginning of the ceremony, we do intentions, and
00:05:56.340 --> 00:06:01.469 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: when when I talk about intention. I often say, you know, hold your intention lightly.
00:06:03.570 --> 00:06:08.559 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and I was just noticing in that ceremony. Had certain people
00:06:09.330 --> 00:06:18.726 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: were really trying to control things like they were really trying with their intention to like. It's got to go this way and look like this, and I want that and that
00:06:20.990 --> 00:06:28.249 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and I. And when I feel that coming from people, and I see that, and I hear that
00:06:28.560 --> 00:06:34.429 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: I often try to help people to kind of open up a little bit
00:06:34.690 --> 00:06:39.259 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: to not be so concerned about controlling every little thing.
00:06:39.580 --> 00:06:43.910 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: but to opening up to the magic of life. And what can happen?
00:06:48.230 --> 00:07:02.540 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And I find that when we can be a little open, when we can hmm give some space
00:07:03.300 --> 00:07:05.359 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: for magic to happen.
00:07:06.620 --> 00:07:16.780 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: that then we can get surprised with something that's so far beyond what our imagination ever predicted, that that
00:07:16.930 --> 00:07:22.810 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: that it's truly magical. And to me like that's where the real magic of life happens.
00:07:24.830 --> 00:07:35.959 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: you know so so often. It's so challenging to to be open
00:07:37.410 --> 00:07:40.900 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: to, to, to live in the unknown.
00:07:43.060 --> 00:07:56.099 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and and especially these days, where life is changing faster than we've ever imagined. And and and we don't know what tomorrow is gonna bring. And we don't know what things are. Gonna look like
00:07:56.730 --> 00:08:02.090 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: a year from now, a month from now, a week from now. God knows what's gonna happen.
00:08:04.500 --> 00:08:13.249 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and we have no control over that. It's not within our control. The universe is a far larger, far more complicated place
00:08:13.780 --> 00:08:19.140 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: than we can possibly wrap our our rational minds around.
00:08:21.550 --> 00:08:36.069 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: So learning to be okay, not being in control, to be okay in the unknown is a skill that
00:08:36.710 --> 00:08:44.890 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: will serve us tremendously if we learn to truly embrace it and and and develop it
00:08:47.910 --> 00:08:50.040 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: because you just never know.
00:08:50.310 --> 00:08:54.250 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: There's so many times where my wife and I have gone to
00:08:54.390 --> 00:09:19.050 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: some place, some some new place we had never been to before, and we. We walk around just just getting lost. And and we get so surprised by the things we find. I remember one example of this was when we went down to Bermuda for for a you know, a long weekend, or maybe a week, you know, trip out of the city.
00:09:19.670 --> 00:09:25.920 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And and there was this rail trail. It was like used to be a railroad that went from one end of the island to the other.
00:09:26.680 --> 00:09:30.500 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Now, abandoned wasn't used anymore. And we were like, let's just walk in
00:09:30.610 --> 00:09:43.820 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and we're walking it, walking it, walking it, and literally going from one end of the island of to the other end. And and if you've never been to Bermuda, it's not a very large island, it didn't, you know. Maybe 40 min we were walking on it.
00:09:44.180 --> 00:09:46.459 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and and then we we kind of get
00:09:46.640 --> 00:09:53.969 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: close to the end of the trail, not quite the end. And then all of a sudden, we start smelling something that just smells amazing.
00:09:54.830 --> 00:09:57.870 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And we find this like little
00:09:58.390 --> 00:10:07.199 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: out of the way, out of nowhere. Kind of not restaurant even. It was more like a takeout place where this woman made these curry pies
00:10:07.440 --> 00:10:20.149 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: that were just so delicious. Oh, my God! And and totally unexpected, and in the kind of place that if you didn't know it was there you would never find it.
00:10:20.580 --> 00:10:27.039 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and obviously very local. The woman looked like, you know. I'm sure she was a native. She lived there her whole life.
00:10:28.250 --> 00:10:40.119 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and it was just a magical moment stumbling across that especially, you know, we'd been walking for for quite a while. It had been a while since we'd had breakfast, and and the pies were just so delicious
00:10:40.140 --> 00:11:01.919 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and so much so, that when we went back to Bermuda a couple of years later I was like, we got to find that place again, and we went down the same trail, and I was able to find it again. But really the things like that those little moments when you can't even imagine you can't even expect what could be there.
00:11:04.120 --> 00:11:18.019 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: It just is one that that to me. That's the real magic of life. That's where, when we just let go amazing, amazing things can come to us.
00:11:18.740 --> 00:11:27.589 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: So that's my blog post for today it is entitled The Magic of Life happens when we least expect it.
00:11:27.700 --> 00:11:39.159 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Of course you can always find my blog at theconsciousconsultant.com, and of course, at the talk radio website, talkradio dot Nyc slash blog.
00:11:39.700 --> 00:11:47.340 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And now it is my extreme pleasure to welcome to the show CEO and executive Coach Leanne, Mallory
00:11:48.050 --> 00:12:03.000 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Leanne helps forward-thinking. Driven women get better results and impact more people without burning out. She teaches them how to access the wisdom of their bodies, recover their native superpowers, and trust their intuition
00:12:03.050 --> 00:12:20.659 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: as the founder of guts and grace and leading emotion. Leanne has supported leaders and organizations of all sizes from a wide range of industries. Her latest book is entitled Guts and Grace, a Woman's Guide to full Bodied Leadership.
00:12:20.950 --> 00:12:36.950 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Leanne learned the hard way how we sabotage our own success, and she spent a decade uncovering the transformative, life-changing insights that she now shares with women leaders. Welcome to the conscious, consultant hour. Leanne.
00:12:36.950 --> 00:12:42.309 LeeAnn Mallorie: Thank you, Sam. It's wonderful to be here, and it was a pleasure to get to listen to your blog post just now.
00:12:42.733 --> 00:12:47.760 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Thank you, thank you so much. The the
00:12:47.900 --> 00:12:57.299 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: I wanted to. I always like to kind of start off with sort of like, how did you get from here to there just to give our audience a little bit of background? So I'm just
00:12:57.470 --> 00:13:06.860 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: curious. Did you imagine yourself, when you were younger, that you would eventually be a CEO and a coach to high powered female executives.
00:13:07.690 --> 00:13:20.519 LeeAnn Mallorie: No, not necessarily. It's funny. I I mean, everything you just shared about magic has been a huge part of my path, and I'm sure we'll get into it as this unfolds. But actually grew up in a steel mill town in Western Pennsylvania. And so
00:13:20.910 --> 00:13:46.719 LeeAnn Mallorie: thing that I do now was not really on the menu in terms of what I mean. You know, either you were a teacher, or maybe you worked in the mill, or like, if you went, you know, climbed, you'd be a doctor or a lawyer, and that was kind of like it. My mom actually ran a baton twirling practice or organization, which was essentially our family business. So when I was 14, I was teaching kids how to twirl baton, and I had this sort of very body body.
00:13:46.720 --> 00:14:14.629 LeeAnn Mallorie: I consider myself an athlete. I was into a lot of different things that were either dance, oriented or movement oriented, and also doing this very specific, you know, kind of physical practice with working with a baton. So it really wasn't at all on my radar that one could even do or have a job like what I have now. So there's a bit more story in terms of how it unfolds. If we have time, I'm happy to share. But just to say like, No, it for sure wasn't what I thought I could be when I, when I grew up.
00:14:14.670 --> 00:14:26.560 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Yeah, yes. So so what did you do like like after college, or like beginning, how did you start off? Where did you? You know, sort of place your feet on the business world to begin with.
00:14:26.560 --> 00:14:33.960 LeeAnn Mallorie: Yeah, I actually, I, my dad's dad was an architect. So I went to college thinking I was gonna major in architecture.
00:14:34.300 --> 00:14:44.709 LeeAnn Mallorie: I was really good at science. I was really good at math. I was also really good at the more kind of squishy stuff and art and literature and things like this. And when I graduated I had this
00:14:44.850 --> 00:15:10.669 LeeAnn Mallorie: sense that what I what I thought I wanted wasn't really what it was going to be. So I spent about a year, maybe a little less than a year in architecture, fell in love with human psychology and studying really, like social psychology, personality, psychology and developmental psychology. But I got into a network of people who were doing intergroup dialogue work, who were doing intercultural international leadership work more just as.
00:15:10.670 --> 00:15:11.390 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: I'm amazing.
00:15:11.390 --> 00:15:18.090 LeeAnn Mallorie: That was on the side, and when I graduated I thought if I could do this for a living, this would make me really happy.
00:15:18.090 --> 00:15:18.610 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Hmm.
00:15:18.610 --> 00:15:29.300 LeeAnn Mallorie: And I went abroad for a year, and on my way, coming back from being abroad, someone who was connected to that inner group dialogue community at the University of Michigan, sent a job
00:15:29.530 --> 00:15:42.020 LeeAnn Mallorie: offer that was working with a boutique firm in San Francisco, and it was a not a really not an intercultural leadership role, but it was a really deep, transformational leadership organization. It was very boutique.
00:15:42.020 --> 00:15:42.760 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: It was the kind of.
00:15:42.760 --> 00:15:49.510 LeeAnn Mallorie: Place where you know, a CEO would tell their friend that it was a little bit like an underground railroad for leadership and transformation.
00:15:49.910 --> 00:15:59.499 LeeAnn Mallorie: and I got to work there at a very like kind of came in at a very intro level position, but climbed fairly quickly, became an executive coach. At 26.
00:15:59.500 --> 00:16:02.420 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Wow! That's really young to be an executive coach.
00:16:02.420 --> 00:16:27.350 LeeAnn Mallorie: It was. It was. I was kind of like I had no business doing it, but I was really like I was both smart, and I really got what made people tick, and I was really good at that. And I would say to my client, when we meet for the 1st time. I'm not the expert in your business, but I understand your ego. What makes you tick? I understand what it takes to actually transform. And so I would just give the disclaimer that we weren't going to work on their strategy. We were going to work on their self
00:16:27.480 --> 00:16:37.329 LeeAnn Mallorie: over time. I did that for 10 years I became a really good strategist as well, just by nature, of actually being with them in the work. And and I think frankly, intuition.
00:16:37.510 --> 00:16:37.920 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Thanks.
00:16:37.920 --> 00:16:40.749 LeeAnn Mallorie: About really just leveraging my people skills to be able to
00:16:41.250 --> 00:16:50.230 LeeAnn Mallorie: support leaders and teams who were at odds with each other, who were having trouble growing who were having team breakdowns, mostly working on the soft stuff, quote unquote, right?
00:16:50.230 --> 00:16:50.990 LeeAnn Mallorie: Actually with
00:16:50.990 --> 00:16:59.960 LeeAnn Mallorie: making or breaking their businesses. And I got to see at that time, underneath the hood of what makes very senior level leaders Tick and I
00:17:00.820 --> 00:17:08.350 LeeAnn Mallorie: coach often the only woman on the team, the only person of color on the team, because I was usually coaching the more junior people on the team. Frankly.
00:17:08.359 --> 00:17:08.919 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Yeah.
00:17:08.920 --> 00:17:10.853 LeeAnn Mallorie: At that point in time.
00:17:11.349 --> 00:17:30.770 LeeAnn Mallorie: So many years ago. Now it was often the case that the folks who were a little bit more junior on the team. Unfortunately, were not the white men so really gave me insight into what's challenging about being in that type of position, being the only on an executive team, for example. And that's actually how the body of work of guts and grace was born.
00:17:30.770 --> 00:17:55.400 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Oh, beautiful, beautiful! Okay, let's hold it there for a moment. We need to take a break when we come back. I would just love to hear about like. When did you decide to jump ship and actually start to do your own thing after having like such an amazing opportunity? That that's I have to say. There are very few people I know who've been able to become an executive coach at such a young age. So you know that we got someone special here.
00:17:55.450 --> 00:18:14.099 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: So everyone, please stay tuned. You're listening to the conscious consultant hour awakening humanity. We do this every Thursday 12 noon to one Pm. Eastern time right here on Talkradio, dot Nyc. And all over social media, and we'll be right back with our guest, Leanne Mallory, in just a moment.
00:20:00.070 --> 00:20:18.609 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And welcome back to the conscious, consultant hour awakening humanity. Our guest this hour is Leanne Mallory, creator of guts and grace, and leading in motion. So, Leanne, you had been working at this company. You've been doing executive coaching for quite a while.
00:20:19.110 --> 00:20:23.529 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: What made you decide to kind of jump ship and start your own business.
00:20:24.270 --> 00:20:39.479 LeeAnn Mallorie: You know the story changes a little, depending upon who's asking and what mood I'm in, which anyone who's left a job to do something else. I'll tell a couple aspects. I'll tell you versions of it. So one version is, as I mentioned, I was really
00:20:41.320 --> 00:21:05.249 LeeAnn Mallorie: delighting in a way, in learning both the inner workings of what's true for for leaders, for leadership teams, but also for women in particular, who may be the only on their executive team, and around that time I also began training at the Strozzi Institute and Body Leadership School, which I think at the time was not so well known. Now, somatics, embodiment is getting a lot more traction. So
00:21:05.250 --> 00:21:05.940 LeeAnn Mallorie: yeah, and then.
00:21:05.940 --> 00:21:31.770 LeeAnn Mallorie: and learning from them, teaching for them for quite a long time now. But it was new to me at the time, and really working with martial arts based, and other even movement and dance based and body leadership practices. What I found was that my women clients results were just going off the charts, and it was like we had added some kind of interesting X factor to their transformation that really made a difference for them both in their
00:21:31.770 --> 00:21:38.200 LeeAnn Mallorie: well-being. Right? So they were burning out less. They were able to stay in the game more, but also in their influence and their impact.
00:21:38.200 --> 00:21:49.350 LeeAnn Mallorie: And through kind of a synchronistic and like slow organic process, it really led me to develop the tools that have now become what I teach in the body of work, of guts and grace.
00:21:50.130 --> 00:22:07.690 LeeAnn Mallorie: At the same time I was also exploring other kinds of work. So I was actually doing a bit of exploration and sacred sexuality. I was doing other beginning to kind of just barely start to scratch the surface of some of my work with plant medicine, some things that were a little bit more on the fringes of what one.
00:22:07.690 --> 00:22:08.029 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: I could do.
00:22:08.030 --> 00:22:36.599 LeeAnn Mallorie: In the context of leadership, and the tension of my expansion, I would say, created some friction with the organization that I was working for. And at some point it became clear that I wasn't going to be able to keep expanding in those arenas that were much different than what we're doing. And I wouldn't say that that work was traditional leadership. It was actually very deep. It was very transformational, but it still kind of lived in a certain type of a box, and I realized that I couldn't live in that type of a box. I think that's also true for many of us who leave a job, or who are
00:22:37.200 --> 00:22:54.349 LeeAnn Mallorie: into a different kind of role. So we decided to part ways. And at that time what was clear to me was that the body of work, of guts and grace had a life force of its own, like. Yes, I kind of created it, but also it was kind of creating me and like telling me. Here's what you need to do next. So.
00:22:54.350 --> 00:22:55.929 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Was kind of created through you.
00:22:55.930 --> 00:22:57.319 LeeAnn Mallorie: A 100% and
00:22:57.830 --> 00:23:14.800 LeeAnn Mallorie: and guiding me as well. There's something about maybe someone who has a methodology. It's like I developed it. But actually, it's teaching me. And so what it taught me was that it wanted to be a year long transformational program. It taught me that it wanted to be working
00:23:14.920 --> 00:23:25.040 LeeAnn Mallorie: primarily or really, specifically with women. There have been a few men who've come through the guts and grace curriculum and the tools work fine for anyone of any gender but that at that time
00:23:25.290 --> 00:23:40.539 LeeAnn Mallorie: it's like the the access to power through a female body in the workplace at that time, 15 years ago had a certain kind of shape that was allowed. And then there's like all this other range again, of what
00:23:41.080 --> 00:24:08.449 LeeAnn Mallorie: could be, what might be really, where our power lies. That wasn't so much on the menu. And so it got me excited to really focus on that work. It's taken a while to have. That be the primary thing that I do. I also did some consulting, did work with executive teams and leadership teams, built custom programs, all the stuff that we do as consultants. But guts and grace again, sort of slowly, organically, really came to the fore as what's needed. And I think what's interesting is, in a way the world is catching up.
00:24:09.090 --> 00:24:10.669 LeeAnn Mallorie: Volume is more on the table now.
00:24:10.670 --> 00:24:11.470 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Yes, yes.
00:24:11.470 --> 00:24:16.100 LeeAnn Mallorie: People to transform themselves. People are talking more about trauma, and how it may be showing up in the workplace.
00:24:16.100 --> 00:24:16.530 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Yes.
00:24:16.530 --> 00:24:25.310 LeeAnn Mallorie: I think the feminine as an expression or a different kind of leadership, is more part of the Zeitgeist now, let's say, than it was 1020 years ago. So.
00:24:25.310 --> 00:24:26.070 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Absolutely.
00:24:26.342 --> 00:24:33.150 LeeAnn Mallorie: It's almost like I've been slowly riding a wave where things are really coming to coming to a head or coming to fruition. Now, more.
00:24:33.150 --> 00:24:36.550 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Yeah, it. It's interesting. You mentioned a couple of things that
00:24:36.980 --> 00:24:49.049 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: you know, even just 5, 10 years ago. You didn't hear that much about in the general conversation, and now are much more out there, such as plant medicine work, sacred sexuality. You know Tantric types of
00:24:49.050 --> 00:25:09.730 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: endeavors, and it's interesting to hear that this all informed you sort of on your journey, and kind of supported you in going to this real route of embodiment, and that's something that I know from the psychedelic space is talked about quite a bit that sometimes people get caught up in the
00:25:09.730 --> 00:25:26.509 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: peak experience, you know, in the, in, in either the experience of medicine or going to some weekend, boot, camp, or workshop. But really the real work is afterwards is sort of embodying those insights, those feelings, those principles?
00:25:27.580 --> 00:25:33.829 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: how did you come to really make embodiment like such a core element of the work that you do.
00:25:34.612 --> 00:25:40.969 LeeAnn Mallorie: I love this question, everything about it. 1st of all, I love a good peak experience. I have an absolute experience.
00:25:41.120 --> 00:25:49.899 LeeAnn Mallorie: high junkie in the ways that one can be. And you know, even these days I sometimes get bored in things that would blow people's minds because.
00:25:49.900 --> 00:25:50.520 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: I mean.
00:25:50.520 --> 00:25:54.030 LeeAnn Mallorie: Really putting myself in these situations that stretch me, that expand me.
00:25:54.030 --> 00:25:54.680 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And.
00:25:54.680 --> 00:25:57.419 LeeAnn Mallorie: Lots of stories that I could tell and
00:25:59.310 --> 00:26:23.560 LeeAnn Mallorie: my work and guts and Grace really is this other side of the coin that's like the the depth of daily practice, the pristineness in a way of the path of integration and the path of mastery, not like mastery trying to get it right, but like I'm willing to come back to the same thing over and over again, I'm willing to feel myself in the same way, over and over again. I'm willing to be
00:26:23.560 --> 00:26:34.889 LeeAnn Mallorie: taking a tiny baby step over and over again until I actually become a different human. Because when we expand through a peak experience. You can't unsee what you've seen so like. Insight
00:26:34.890 --> 00:27:01.059 LeeAnn Mallorie: has longevity. If I have, if I sit in a medicine ceremony, or I, you know, go climb Mount Kilimandaro, and it's like I see the world in a different way. I see the world in a different way. But the truth is, the body, like the mind moves fast, the body moves slowly. It takes time for literally us cellularly to catch up. It takes time for the contractions in our musculature to catch up. So like earlier, when you were talking about magic reading, your podcast or your.
00:27:01.790 --> 00:27:02.600 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Blog, posted.
00:27:02.600 --> 00:27:06.389 LeeAnn Mallorie: Blog post. I was like, Oh, yeah, like part of
00:27:06.590 --> 00:27:19.879 LeeAnn Mallorie: what I do. What we do inside of guts and grace is what is the actual, like slow form, surrender of the contractions in our musculature that make more flow possible, so that I can experience.
00:27:19.880 --> 00:27:20.810 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Experience, Magic.
00:27:21.120 --> 00:27:48.830 LeeAnn Mallorie: What is the unraveling of an old habit that I had before I went to the Plant medicine ceremony, for example, that I know I need to change. And now it's even more clear, and I feel like something that was blocking me. Changing. It got released in that ceremony. But actually, now either I have a void, or I just have an old habit I don't know what to do with, so there's a slow walking ourselves back to wholeness. There's a walking ourselves back to more of an integrated state. And I say back because I don't. I
00:27:48.830 --> 00:27:56.519 LeeAnn Mallorie: I personally believe, and many of my teachers would say as well that you know our natural state. What we're born. What we come in with is
00:27:56.730 --> 00:28:14.470 LeeAnn Mallorie: access to all of this is the ability to surrender is our wholeness in these ways, but we so much gets glommed on through our traumatic experiences, through our just daily experience, through our inculturation, through the workplace, culture, etc. Etc. So it does take both.
00:28:15.046 --> 00:28:21.950 LeeAnn Mallorie: I also facilitate retreats, experiences. I take people, wild rides and journeys, but I also I don't.
00:28:22.070 --> 00:28:23.280 LeeAnn Mallorie: I I.
00:28:23.580 --> 00:28:27.749 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Don't underestimate the power of just like a simple daily practice, or something.
00:28:28.260 --> 00:28:30.179 LeeAnn Mallorie: Habit that actually helps us evolve.
00:28:30.480 --> 00:28:32.796 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely.
00:28:34.630 --> 00:28:38.259 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Just a quick question before we go to break. Do you find that
00:28:39.430 --> 00:29:06.430 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: talking to female leaders which is really your your core group of people that you work with talking to female leaders about these kinds of things is this something that they're just naturally open to? Is this something that they're more open to now than they were in the past? Or is this something that when you start talking about this, that they, their initial reaction is the eyes glaze over, and you have to do a little work to get them to really drop into it.
00:29:06.900 --> 00:29:13.579 LeeAnn Mallorie: Well, let's come back to this more after break, because female leaders are a pretty diverse group, right?
00:29:14.190 --> 00:29:17.765 LeeAnn Mallorie: Say, all of the above. And I'd love to talk a bit more.
00:29:18.040 --> 00:29:31.889 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Absolutely absolutely okay. All of the above. All right, everybody. We're going to take a quick break, and when we come back we're going to dive in a little bit more of like what is guts and grace? What is the work that Leanne does, and what are the kinds of
00:29:32.880 --> 00:29:43.979 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: experiences she's had working with female leaders. So I'm sure you're going to be interested to hear her answers. So everyone, please stay tuned. You're listening to the conscious consultant hour
00:29:44.310 --> 00:29:49.999 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: awakening humanity, and we'll be right back with our guest, Leanne Mallory. In just a moment.
00:31:25.360 --> 00:31:39.039 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: So, Leanne, before we went to break, I asked you a question you're like, well, let's dive into that afterwards about you know how open. Are female leaders really to this, this kind of work, this embodiment work, this
00:31:39.280 --> 00:31:46.099 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: really more somatic, more more body focused approach. Whether this is something that that
00:31:46.770 --> 00:31:52.890 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: they have a hard time with. They're very easy with, and it sounds like there's a whole variety of answers to this question.
00:31:53.110 --> 00:31:54.060 LeeAnn Mallorie: Totally
00:31:54.459 --> 00:32:00.919 LeeAnn Mallorie: and you know, anything I say really can again be applied to anyone of any gender. But specifically, since I do tend to work
00:32:00.940 --> 00:32:22.130 LeeAnn Mallorie: a lot a lot these days with women leaders. My clients really run the gamut. I would say. I have people who come to me who are like super type A. I've never heard of plant medicine. I have no interest in anything to do with my body. I'm just burnt out, and I want to get ahead. And you know, I was actually just texting one of my clients this morning, like
00:32:22.130 --> 00:32:32.210 LeeAnn Mallorie: those folks can have a massive amount of transformation if they're willing to dive into this work, it's super fun, because it's just like
00:32:32.220 --> 00:32:48.030 LeeAnn Mallorie: anything is, you know, like, I feel my body. And it's like, Wow, that changes my life. So there's there's like a lot of low hanging fruit. If you're this particular archetype, right? The the hurdle to get over is that everything for someone who's like really still.
00:32:48.750 --> 00:33:06.049 LeeAnn Mallorie: still, who's fresh for someone who's built that way naturally, and or is still hanging on in a way to that archetype of leadership. Everything that we've been told that will help us get ahead. Is not that right? Is not surrender is not feeling is not having emotions, and it is
00:33:07.380 --> 00:33:27.799 LeeAnn Mallorie: true, in a way that many workplaces still reward a more old paradigm, maybe more patriarchal, more masculine, more certain kind of build, type of leadership, and especially if you're older or further along in your career, you've been in the workplace for longer. You've just seen again and again what works and what doesn't work. So there's something to actually dismantle. And you have to have.
00:33:28.130 --> 00:33:29.670 LeeAnn Mallorie: Let's say, enough
00:33:30.430 --> 00:33:51.569 LeeAnn Mallorie: of a reason to want to do that. So sometimes that's burnout. Sometimes. That's like my marriage ended because I was like living in this way, and it didn't work out anymore. So usually there has to be enough of a cost. If someone has this particular kind of build to want to open the door, to embodiment, to want to talk about some of the kinds of things that I support people with, or even spirituality. Go ahead.
00:33:51.570 --> 00:34:02.269 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: I was just going to say. Many times it's a health crisis. I've interviewed many people on who, you know, had a heart attack, had a stroke, came down with cancer, and like that was the big wake-up call for them.
00:34:02.390 --> 00:34:07.379 LeeAnn Mallorie: Totally and actually the original working title of the book Guts and Grace was, Wake up call, and it
00:34:07.790 --> 00:34:16.190 LeeAnn Mallorie: was because at the time when I originally, I actually wrote the original draft of the book almost 10 years ago. It was published not too long ago.
00:34:16.510 --> 00:34:44.789 LeeAnn Mallorie: But the original working title was, Wake up, call because it's like there's something that kicks us into our willingness to feel again our willingness to actually track the body and so on. Now, today it's interesting, because I would say, I have another archetype that tends to come my way, which is, I'm a Reiki teacher on the side, but I'm still working in corporate or like I do sit with ayahuasca, or I have these other experiences, but I don't know how to put my life together, because half of me that's not in the workplace
00:34:44.790 --> 00:35:11.539 LeeAnn Mallorie: is deeply spiritual, is very health. Conscious is teaching. Yoga is fill in the blank. So it used to be more like those people would whisper those things to me now. It's like they're they're chasing me down because they're like, have this split life of these 2 parts of me don't make sense together. How can I actually integrate this? Who I'm being as a leader. How can I trust that this is okay? And the thing that I see again and again, especially for folks with this kind of a build is that
00:35:11.590 --> 00:35:22.760 LeeAnn Mallorie: if you have this side of you, it is not an accident, and your your highest level of potential leadership impact contribution influence will have to include it.
00:35:22.920 --> 00:35:50.299 LeeAnn Mallorie: And so you're likely to hit a plateau if you're a woman or anyone in leadership, and you're not actually figuring out how to integrate that part of yourself. So usually when I talk to folks like that, either they're burned out or they plateaued, or they're like, there's something more for me, but I can't quite figure out how to be it or how to have it. Or maybe it's like, I'm not getting the attention that I would want even on the exact team. But I'm not taken seriously because I seem a little too different than them. So then, it's actually this, this almost like
00:35:50.623 --> 00:36:02.640 LeeAnn Mallorie: identity integration that actually does also often have to do with what's being embodied, how it's being expressed, the kind of presence that gets wheeled. How much do you trust yourself like. Maybe you listen to your body, but you don't.
00:36:02.640 --> 00:36:04.289 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Trust it. For example.
00:36:04.290 --> 00:36:18.839 LeeAnn Mallorie: That's really part of that path. So I wanted to come back to after break, because I think it's such a juicy question, and everyone in between. Right? We might be on one end of the other of those spectrums. We might be somewhere in between. There's just so much we've been told that we can't.
00:36:19.340 --> 00:36:19.800 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Right.
00:36:19.800 --> 00:36:25.230 LeeAnn Mallorie: Do and can't have. And I personally think that's part of the problem with our workplaces today. But.
00:36:25.230 --> 00:36:26.290 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:36:26.290 --> 00:36:28.000 LeeAnn Mallorie: You may agree or disagree.
00:36:28.170 --> 00:36:30.609 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: I'm I'm curious with the
00:36:31.160 --> 00:36:57.099 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: female leaders you work with in general. Are you seeing certain trends like? Is this type of work becoming more popular, or women more open to it, leader, female leaders more open to it than they were in the past, and and also given, like today's climate of sort of chaos. And there's a certain amount of pushback against sort of female leadership. Is there
00:36:57.360 --> 00:37:03.040 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: specific challenges that they're they're they're facing now more than before.
00:37:05.090 --> 00:37:07.670 LeeAnn Mallorie: So much in that question. Yeah.
00:37:07.670 --> 00:37:08.780 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: I asked a big question.
00:37:08.780 --> 00:37:12.850 LeeAnn Mallorie: Simple answer. Yes, I do think people are more open for sure.
00:37:13.160 --> 00:37:23.329 LeeAnn Mallorie: It's easier for me to talk about guts and grace, and what we do and embodied leadership. And people go like, Yeah, I've heard of that before, or like, I'm interested in that already. So for sure, like
00:37:23.500 --> 00:37:29.329 LeeAnn Mallorie: things are changing amongst women amongst leaders in general, that people are more open to this type of work.
00:37:31.270 --> 00:37:33.260 LeeAnn Mallorie: In terms of the current climate.
00:37:34.670 --> 00:37:37.060 LeeAnn Mallorie: I guess one thing that I can say is that
00:37:39.000 --> 00:37:43.909 LeeAnn Mallorie: in a way, it makes it both easier and harder to invite people into this type of work.
00:37:43.910 --> 00:37:44.600 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Hmm, yeah.
00:37:44.600 --> 00:38:08.300 LeeAnn Mallorie: Because, on one hand, we're many of us more raw, more burned out, more fractured, more stressed out, hurting more whatever like. Whatever, however, we react to stress and pressure. Frankly, whatever your politics are right, whether you're on the ride of our of what's happening in politically right now. But it's just a lot right. It's exciting whether you're on the other side of that coin. And you're like this is ruining my life in some way.
00:38:08.840 --> 00:38:38.429 LeeAnn Mallorie: Under a lot of pressure. There's a lot going on, and just the sheer pace and the chaos of it all asks a lot of our nervous systems. And most of us because of how we've sort of shut down our access to the wisdom of our bodies because we haven't practiced working with our bodies in a really grounded way over time. Many of us are very afraid right now, and so, if you're aware of that, I would say, you might be more open to this type of work. Or, again, on the other side of the coin, it's like.
00:38:38.540 --> 00:38:43.669 LeeAnn Mallorie: I don't wanna touch this type of work, because it's gonna it's gonna blow me open even more than I think I can handle right.
00:38:43.670 --> 00:38:44.130 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Right.
00:38:44.130 --> 00:39:04.620 LeeAnn Mallorie: Whole category of people, I would say, who are holding on, and to come back to what you shared earlier. Unfortunately, it's often a crisis of some kind that will have someone in that category be like, yeah, okay, I'm willing to do this now because I have to. So I'm often also like catching people on the other side of a health crisis, or a spiritual crisis, or a death, or a loss of someone. For example.
00:39:05.350 --> 00:39:22.189 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: I'm wondering are the women leaders who like are seeking you out and finding you? Do you find, like there are certain industries that they're working in that they're more likely to reach out to you like technology or healthcare or something. Or is it really just across the boards? All kinds of industries.
00:39:24.020 --> 00:39:26.790 LeeAnn Mallorie: I would say, certainly.
00:39:27.310 --> 00:39:33.140 LeeAnn Mallorie: certainly there's a certain kind of fallout in tech so. But but no, I would say,
00:39:35.240 --> 00:39:37.660 LeeAnn Mallorie: I have. I have a theory. I have a belief.
00:39:37.660 --> 00:39:38.220 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Even.
00:39:38.220 --> 00:39:44.850 LeeAnn Mallorie: Which is that in every kind of organization, in every industry there's a certain
00:39:45.250 --> 00:39:58.340 LeeAnn Mallorie: number of people and women who are kind of like the seeds for what the organization could become. And I I use the expression, forward thinking women leaders. It's the best that I have to be able to say quickly, but it's like.
00:40:00.470 --> 00:40:21.230 LeeAnn Mallorie: you know, the would say like, if you're aware of, like the imaginal cells in a butterfly where, like the cells that are in a caterpillar that make it turn into the butterfly once it actually goes into the cocoon. So I believe that there are just people. Maybe they're conscious consultants right? Who are kind of built that they're carrying the blueprint of the future, and they exist in every industry.
00:40:21.511 --> 00:40:46.920 LeeAnn Mallorie: They are. They are my tribe, I would say, the people who I'm why I love to serve are the people who are like, yeah, I kind of see what this could be. Maybe I'm able to voice that maybe I'm not. Maybe I need to grow into my full expression to be able to do that. Maybe my full expression is actually what moves the organization into that. So I've really steered away from saying my work is for someone in a particular industry, because as soon as I say that I'll meet someone else, and I'll be like, but you're exactly our tribe.
00:40:47.840 --> 00:41:12.869 LeeAnn Mallorie: Work will totally work for you. And you might. And actually, when I run programs. So when I, we're doing an event in Costa actually do 2 events in Costa Rica this year that are more like a summit of gathering women. I run weekend retreats and different things. And it's like, people are surprised because there are leadership training programs that are like for women in healthcare, for example. That's great. You're gonna get a certain thing from that, because we're working with
00:41:13.370 --> 00:41:15.319 LeeAnn Mallorie: the deeper layers, with embodiment.
00:41:15.320 --> 00:41:15.930 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Quitous like.
00:41:15.930 --> 00:41:30.179 LeeAnn Mallorie: With the soul with, who am I really being? You can be in a row of people from totally different industries, but be working on the same thing. I also really work with people at different ages and different stages in their career. So I actually like the cross pollination of.
00:41:30.180 --> 00:41:30.830 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Yeah.
00:41:31.000 --> 00:41:40.710 LeeAnn Mallorie: Learning from folks strategically, when we're when we're in a cohort like that. And we're also looking at our businesses or looking at what's happening with our organizations.
00:41:41.040 --> 00:42:06.599 LeeAnn Mallorie: What's happening in finance in the financial sector might really be interesting to someone in Tech, because maybe I wasn't thinking that way. And then we can also pull it across. So I think there's both a business case for being in a multi industry container for learning from people who are not just in your industry, in terms of innovation, in terms of being able to see bigger pictures or have new ideas. And then, again, because the work is so human centered that I'm.
00:42:06.600 --> 00:42:07.190 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Doing, good.
00:42:07.190 --> 00:42:10.410 LeeAnn Mallorie: Doesn't really matter what the industry is. It's more like if somebody
00:42:10.720 --> 00:42:13.139 LeeAnn Mallorie: is interested in disruption. If they're interested in
00:42:13.790 --> 00:42:17.099 LeeAnn Mallorie: and coming into their full self-expression. They will love this work.
00:42:17.100 --> 00:42:30.340 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: You know you didn't mention something that sparked a question in my mind about the difference in ages, and I imagine that maybe some of the younger female leaders might be more drawn to the work.
00:42:30.610 --> 00:42:44.479 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: though maybe some of the older female leaders, maybe they need it more, or they're feeling more burnt out. So I'm curious about that dynamic between the youngest female leaders you work with versus the older female leaders. You work with.
00:42:44.630 --> 00:42:47.630 LeeAnn Mallorie: Well, one thing I can say is that
00:42:50.320 --> 00:42:53.279 LeeAnn Mallorie: Our our younger women are struggling right now.
00:42:53.840 --> 00:42:54.310 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Oh!
00:42:54.310 --> 00:42:57.030 LeeAnn Mallorie: I don't mean that, universally sure. And if you're listening, that doesn't apply to.
00:42:57.030 --> 00:42:57.410 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: For you.
00:42:57.410 --> 00:43:15.917 LeeAnn Mallorie: I said that. But I think we can underestimate how challenging this time, and being a young leader or a young woman in the workplace is at this time I see a ton of burnout, a lot of pressure putting on ourselves or being put on by organizations. I think.
00:43:16.280 --> 00:43:28.109 LeeAnn Mallorie: I just have a lot of compassion for anybody who's in there, let's say, twenties or early thirties at this time, and it's kind of easy to like not see the cost of it on them like we wear it differently.
00:43:28.465 --> 00:43:44.450 LeeAnn Mallorie: So that that's only one part of an answer to your question. But I think for all of us who might be like, you know, they've got it easy. They're young, like things are taken care of like the the Psyches are different. The the moment is different. The pressures are different. You know, there's so much
00:43:44.980 --> 00:43:55.740 LeeAnn Mallorie: comparison. And being able to see what's out there and how plugged in we are. There's just a lot about that particular generation. I think that's true in terms of openness.
00:43:56.510 --> 00:44:01.910 LeeAnn Mallorie: I think I think it. It just depends. There's something that I tend to see, which is almost like
00:44:05.300 --> 00:44:12.449 LeeAnn Mallorie: how how close or how far you are! From a moment of things falling apart loss, I actually went through in my
00:44:13.180 --> 00:44:23.449 LeeAnn Mallorie: 20. I mean, this is kind of my wake up. Call right that like led me to write guts and grace, or to really begin to curate these tools. I went through a burnout episode in my twenties.
00:44:24.226 --> 00:44:28.809 LeeAnn Mallorie: That set me on a path of looking for something different.
00:44:28.920 --> 00:44:35.330 LeeAnn Mallorie: And I think that can happen in a way at any age. So yeah, that's that's probably what.
00:44:35.330 --> 00:44:35.780 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Gotcha
00:44:36.860 --> 00:44:46.100 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: gotcha. Okay, we've been mentioning it, but we haven't really talked about it. So when we come back we just have a few minutes. I do want to talk about the book guts and grace like.
00:44:46.400 --> 00:44:54.519 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: What do you hope people get from it? And if we have time I'd love to hear your thoughts around how the changing in technology and the acceleration.
00:44:55.030 --> 00:44:59.239 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: if technological change is affecting female leaders. Okay.
00:45:01.320 --> 00:45:20.869 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: so everyone, please stay tuned. You're listening to the conscious consultant hour awakening humanity. We've been speaking this hour to Leanne Mallory, CEO, and executive coach and creator of guts and grace and author of guts and grace a Woman's guide to full bodied leadership, and we'll be right back to talk about guts and grace.
00:47:01.990 --> 00:47:07.040 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: So, Leanne, you wrote the book Guts and Grace, a Woman's Guide to full bodied leadership.
00:47:07.280 --> 00:47:12.900 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Who did you write the book for? And what do you hope they get out of the book?
00:47:13.660 --> 00:47:27.289 LeeAnn Mallorie: The the various archetypes we've been talking about, right? So the burned out type, a woman leader who's kind of hitting a wall maybe been through some kind of a crisis or had a breakdown, or just like, I can't do this. I have a lot of like, I can't do this anymore. People who show up on my doorstep.
00:47:28.420 --> 00:47:35.760 LeeAnn Mallorie: How do I? What do I do next? So I really wrote the book for those folks, and I think also for the folks who are
00:47:35.820 --> 00:48:02.000 LeeAnn Mallorie: maybe dabbling and or deep in other kinds of transformational work, really already open to things that are deeper spiritually, and or health wise, you know, self-care, wise body wise, and want to bring it more fully into an expression of their leadership that is sustainable, that makes sense that can actually be a type of leadership that impacts and has influence. And the way the book is actually
00:48:02.360 --> 00:48:15.049 LeeAnn Mallorie: divided, if you will. In fact, my publishers were like it really could be 2 books. The 1st half is basically resilience work. The second half is and purpose work, but both from an embodied lens. And what I said was, look.
00:48:15.460 --> 00:48:37.109 LeeAnn Mallorie: there's lots of books on each of those things. This book, if you make your way entirely through it, or if you come and do our guts and grace program. It really takes you. It weaves those 2 halves of the conversation together, because often in the workplace we're either majoring in going after what we want, being on purpose being able to make a difference, make an impact. But then we burn out
00:48:37.210 --> 00:49:06.000 LeeAnn Mallorie: or we're doing all of the self care work. But then we're like, if I take care of myself, I can't. Actually, I can never go back to the kind of influence or impact or drive that I used to have. And so, in a way, my decision to keep it as a single book to keep it out as well as a single program was to say, both sides of this coin are actually part of what it takes to become whole and integrated as a woman leader, and I'm insisting that you actually work with both. Now do people read the entire book? Not always.
00:49:07.250 --> 00:49:16.039 LeeAnn Mallorie: Is it okay to like, go to the like. The book is set up, and I say this in the introduction that you can just pick the chapter that speaks to you most, and then go through through it from there to front.
00:49:16.040 --> 00:49:16.410 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: To back.
00:49:16.410 --> 00:49:33.279 LeeAnn Mallorie: Almost like a circle. But it is an opportunity to consider that it's not like we can focus on one or the other of these things, and get all the way there in terms of coming back to whole and back to really grounded and well. But we actually have to navigate these 2 sides of the coin.
00:49:33.280 --> 00:49:34.640 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:49:35.040 --> 00:49:54.520 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: So I wanted to touch upon this for a moment, because because there's so much change going on. And in particular, around technology with artificial intelligence, with the technology and how it's being applied to business leaders, whether they're female or male.
00:49:54.940 --> 00:50:01.830 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: This is like a big deal that that we need to kind of grapple with. And I'm just curious.
00:50:01.940 --> 00:50:17.180 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: How do you see female leaders, either embracing or not embracing this change in this rapid change in technology that we're facing now because this is like the fastest change in technology that we've ever seen on the planet. Isn't it?
00:50:17.780 --> 00:50:20.368 LeeAnn Mallorie: It is. It's really an interesting
00:50:21.880 --> 00:50:26.590 LeeAnn Mallorie: Oh, it's an interesting hit box to open.
00:50:30.180 --> 00:50:36.429 LeeAnn Mallorie: I'm gonna answer your question a slightly different way, I mean, I'll answer. But then let me go go where I really feel called to go. So.
00:50:36.430 --> 00:50:36.940 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Okay.
00:50:36.940 --> 00:50:55.719 LeeAnn Mallorie: Embracing it again fairly, diversely, right? I tend to use less technology than most, not because I am not wanting to keep up with the times, but because I have a deep interest and awareness with the extent to which our technology trains us. If we're not paying attention
00:50:55.920 --> 00:51:07.689 LeeAnn Mallorie: some of the pace of what technology is doing, and some of the ways that it might have me forget to myself or not be in conscious practice of feeling myself is not what I want to be trained in right now. So I go.
00:51:08.190 --> 00:51:26.009 LeeAnn Mallorie: Many of my clients work in technology work with AI are very much embracing it, using it. For example, we're working on building an app right now. So using technology collaborating with technology to actually be more human or to go in the places that we want to go. I have a client who's working on a documentary called the Humanity Code.
00:51:26.010 --> 00:51:39.729 LeeAnn Mallorie: and it is about this conversation between humanity and technology. And how do we actually train our technology to be human in the ways we'd like to be right conscious in the ways we'd like it to be so. It's a very rich conversation.
00:51:40.363 --> 00:51:49.470 LeeAnn Mallorie: I also, as a person who teaches embodiment, have to be in relationship with this conversation because it
00:51:49.630 --> 00:51:55.770 LeeAnn Mallorie: is engaging with us in a way that, if not tracked consciously.
00:51:56.321 --> 00:52:01.240 LeeAnn Mallorie: can entice us out of our feeling. Selves can yes.
00:52:01.671 --> 00:52:22.169 LeeAnn Mallorie: into a pace that's actually faster than my body can handle. You know the Tiktok, for example, right? Even just watching something that's very short, very quickly, like it's programming my brain and my body to move in a certain way that may not help me heal from trauma, but might actually replicate trauma, for example, where he says, trauma is too much too fast, too soon. Right?
00:52:22.720 --> 00:52:41.249 LeeAnn Mallorie: That we're receiving from a at least social media or media perspective is kind of like that. So I think it's a really key question for humanity. Right now, how do we be in relationship with? And one of my favorite podcasts to listen to actually is the emerald with Josh year.
00:52:41.370 --> 00:52:42.489 LeeAnn Mallorie: That's on the top.
00:52:42.490 --> 00:52:43.550 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Part of the enrollment.
00:52:43.550 --> 00:53:04.520 LeeAnn Mallorie: There's 1 that's about us being a sorcerer's apprentice in the age of AI. And it's a lot about embodiment it's like, are we able to actually be grounded to feel ourselves as we interact with our technology? Can we leverage the rapid growth and pace of technology to become more human, to actually feel ourselves more versus let it take it take us out of ourselves, so we don't.
00:53:04.770 --> 00:53:17.400 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: On that note. I just heard that the CTO. Of Openai, a woman leader left to start her own AI company to make AI more human centric.
00:53:17.680 --> 00:53:29.000 LeeAnn Mallorie: That makes sense to me. I haven't heard the news yet, but I think there's there will be. You'll start to see this. Not tension. Right? But you're going to start to see the conversations already happening, like the conversation. Really
00:53:29.750 --> 00:53:36.430 LeeAnn Mallorie: pulling in these different directions of like go faster versus like, hold on! What are we collaborating like? Do we want to do.
00:53:36.430 --> 00:53:36.860 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Thank you. Buddy.
00:53:36.860 --> 00:53:39.540 LeeAnn Mallorie: What's happening. And it's really exciting. I think
00:53:40.030 --> 00:53:46.649 LeeAnn Mallorie: you look far enough back in history. I just went for the second time, actually, this fall to ancient Egypt, and
00:53:47.150 --> 00:54:11.330 LeeAnn Mallorie: sure technology at different times, much, much further back in history was thriving in different ways. Maybe not the same way we think about technology or the same kind of technology. But there have been phases of human evolution where technology was at a peak. And I think we're reemerging into one of those kinds of peaks. Now, does it exalt us, or does it destroy us? Is a really interesting question.
00:54:11.330 --> 00:54:11.730 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Gently.
00:54:11.730 --> 00:54:14.980 LeeAnn Mallorie: Any tracking at this time. I hope we do a good job.
00:54:14.980 --> 00:54:21.249 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Yeah, me, too. Me, too, for sure, for future generations. One last question,
00:54:23.590 --> 00:54:29.049 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: what are the challenges? You seem so grounded? You're really on top of things.
00:54:29.510 --> 00:54:40.690 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: What kinds of challenges are you facing these days like? What sort of things might keep you up at night, or what kinds of things make you say. Oh, I've got to up my game, or I've got to
00:54:41.000 --> 00:54:42.680 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: do some deeper work.
00:54:43.760 --> 00:54:44.990 LeeAnn Mallorie: Rest!
00:54:45.200 --> 00:54:48.359 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Rest. I've been in a study of.
00:54:48.510 --> 00:54:50.629 LeeAnn Mallorie: The next layer of.
00:54:51.000 --> 00:54:56.059 LeeAnn Mallorie: I'll say it this way, like unplugging from capitalism, unplugging from the patriarchy, I run a business so like.
00:54:56.060 --> 00:54:56.460 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Hmm.
00:54:56.460 --> 00:55:02.929 LeeAnn Mallorie: Not like, oh, I'm gonna go, not do business anymore, but actually like, how can I, as a business owner.
00:55:03.060 --> 00:55:13.980 LeeAnn Mallorie: be more restful, slower, less influenced by the historical roots of capitalism for the sake of.
00:55:14.740 --> 00:55:17.589 LeeAnn Mallorie: I think, for the sake of my own sanity.
00:55:18.210 --> 00:55:22.429 LeeAnn Mallorie: But also for the sake of being like learning how to be a model that we can
00:55:23.609 --> 00:55:34.519 LeeAnn Mallorie: perhaps still do business, but maybe maybe not like maybe not have to throw the baby out with the bath water, but not do it in a way that it creates as much harm or not doing a way that says harmful.
00:55:34.520 --> 00:55:34.930 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: That's correct.
00:55:34.930 --> 00:55:39.450 LeeAnn Mallorie: Bodies, for example. So I would say, I'm in my own deep study of that right now.
00:55:40.670 --> 00:55:41.130 LeeAnn Mallorie: An exact.
00:55:41.130 --> 00:55:48.510 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Because going slower is essential to be able to embody things more right because the nervous system, as you said before, takes time.
00:55:48.830 --> 00:55:52.790 LeeAnn Mallorie: It does, it does, and and frankly, I think the feminine takes time so.
00:55:52.790 --> 00:55:53.320 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And.
00:55:53.632 --> 00:56:05.210 LeeAnn Mallorie: Guts, and Grace at this moment is going through an interesting transformation as a business. The guidance I received through some ceremonial work last year was to make it a more collaborative business to not be the.
00:56:05.210 --> 00:56:05.670 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Name.
00:56:05.670 --> 00:56:12.119 LeeAnn Mallorie: Figurehead over the only person who owns or runs the business. So I've actually been in a process of inviting collaborators to come into business.
00:56:12.140 --> 00:56:13.590 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Okay. Wonderful.
00:56:13.590 --> 00:56:19.300 LeeAnn Mallorie: And just listening to what might be the
00:56:19.930 --> 00:56:25.070 LeeAnn Mallorie: way of innovating, of creating. That is even more.
00:56:25.270 --> 00:56:49.219 LeeAnn Mallorie: let's say, deeply guided by the feminine, whatever that means to whatever that may means to the audience. But I think there's a council model. There's a collaborative, collective model that has in many ways, and it almost like been in conflict with, you know, success in business. And I'm like, Yeah, I want to. I want to be part of hacking. What? How do we do that? Well, what does that actually look like now? So that's kind of my learning curve, and
00:56:50.570 --> 00:56:52.310 LeeAnn Mallorie: what I'm in a deep study of at the moment.
00:56:52.310 --> 00:57:11.069 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Beautiful, beautiful Leanne. Thank you so much. I could talk to you for hours. It's such a deep, rich conversation. If if our audience is interested, want to learn more about your work. How would they find you? Where can they find you online? And you know, how can they be exposed to your work?
00:57:11.320 --> 00:57:25.559 LeeAnn Mallorie: Yes, so gutsandgrace.com is our website. If you go to gutsandgrace.com backslash sign up, you can get a couple of embodied leadership practices that are curated by me that are audio guided, and then kind of a handbook on how to use them.
00:57:25.670 --> 00:57:42.729 LeeAnn Mallorie: I'm currently on Instagram at Leanne Mallory or Leanne Mallory, I believe, and Linkedin, I spend a lot of time as well. So Leanne Mallory on Linkedin. If you spell my name right with an ie. At the end of Mallory you will find me. I think I'm the only one that spells it that way. If you spell it wrong. You're going to find other people.
00:57:42.910 --> 00:57:43.410 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Yeah.
00:57:43.410 --> 00:57:44.889 LeeAnn Mallorie: And then.
00:57:45.170 --> 00:57:56.689 LeeAnn Mallorie: yeah, we're actually, we're working on an app. So if you sign up for our mailing list, I would say, you know, in some period of time, not too long from now you'll have other ways to participate. Do practice with us. Stuff like that. That's our our big problem.
00:57:56.690 --> 00:58:04.359 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Wonderful, wonderful. Well, thank you, Leanne. Thank you for taking time out of your schedule for coming on our show. Truly appreciate you.
00:58:04.360 --> 00:58:06.269 LeeAnn Mallorie: Thank you, Sam. It's been a pleasure to be here.
00:58:06.270 --> 00:58:32.550 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Yes, and of course, thank you, my loyal listeners, for tuning in each week without you there is no show, and don't forget if you did miss any part of today's show, you can always catch the replay on talkradio, dot Nyc and on all the major podcasting platforms, apple spotify Pandora Iheartradio. Wherever you listen to Podcasts the conscious consultant hour is there. Thank you. All for tuning in. Take care. We will talk to you all next week.
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