EPISODE SUMMARY:
This week, on The Conscious Consultant Hour, Sam is pleased to welcome Speaker, Bestselling author, and Business & Executive Coach, Jayne Warrilow.
Jayne is the founder of Sacred Changemakers, a podcast and community that brings together people who want to reimagine business and make a bigger impact. She plays at the intersection between soul, business, and technology.
Jayne is one of the world’s most exclusive business coaches, and her clients are by invitation and referral only. She has worked with CEOs and senior executive teams around the world, and despite working with millionaires and celebrities, her true passion is inspiring coaches, consultants, and changemakers to become and do the extraordinary in life and business.
Her clients are true changemakers with a track record of success. They are individuals looking to raise their consciousness to play even bigger and make a positive difference in our world by building a business that inspires the human soul.
Jayne and Sam will be discussing all about how to redefine success and leadership to go beyond profit.
Tune in and share your questions and comments about the intersection of consciousness, business, and leadership on our YouTube livestream or on our Facebook page.
https://sacredchangemakers.com/
00:00:25.630 --> 00:00:49.989 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Good afternoon, my conscious co-creators. Good morning. Good evening. Wherever you're tuning in from welcome to the conscious consultant hour awakening humanity as always, I am very, very pleased that you are all here with me today. We've got a wonderful, wonderful show in store for you, with an excellent guest
00:00:50.040 --> 00:00:58.240 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: really excited about having her on the show. But first, st of course, we have my blog post from a couple of years ago. Again, I'm just
00:00:58.510 --> 00:01:11.179 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: going through these in order. So no, this isn't Cherry picked. This isn't preplanned. It just happens to be what comes next, and I think it's a pretty good one for today, and what we're going to be talking about.
00:01:11.750 --> 00:01:17.280 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And today's blog post is entitled, Our spiritual practice
00:01:17.510 --> 00:01:22.409 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: is meant to improve this world, not escape it.
00:01:23.370 --> 00:01:28.000 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Many spiritual seekers look to elevate their abilities.
00:01:28.440 --> 00:01:31.020 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: to touch spirit on a higher level.
00:01:31.620 --> 00:01:35.399 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and open themselves up to a greater awareness.
00:01:35.930 --> 00:01:40.820 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Yet there is a danger in doing this too quickly
00:01:41.410 --> 00:01:49.929 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: when we strive to be in communion with spirit too quickly, it can lead to undesirable consequences.
00:01:50.900 --> 00:01:58.160 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Monks who meditate for decades may only achieve moderate levels of this kind of spiritual development.
00:01:58.550 --> 00:02:05.670 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: They practice and practice every day to center themselves and discipline themselves in preparation.
00:02:06.310 --> 00:02:13.880 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: For to truly hold these higher energies. It takes a lot more than just to be open to them.
00:02:14.750 --> 00:02:23.499 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: It takes being centered and grounded enough through the years of practice to keep them from lifting us up too far.
00:02:24.030 --> 00:02:29.779 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: When we attain a high level of connection and immersion in spirit.
00:02:30.130 --> 00:02:34.329 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: we can lose our ability to function in our day-to-day life
00:02:34.890 --> 00:02:42.640 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: we can, we can become so ungrounded that we can no longer take care of ourselves or our family.
00:02:43.140 --> 00:02:46.959 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: which can lead to many unpleasant side effects
00:02:47.560 --> 00:02:51.870 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: rushing into the world of spiritual phenomenon
00:02:51.910 --> 00:02:59.300 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: can be a tricky path for those who are not trained well or ready for the resulting expansion.
00:02:59.910 --> 00:03:03.509 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: It might seem counterintuitive to go slow.
00:03:03.960 --> 00:03:11.009 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: After all, don't we want to go as high as we can as fast as we can?
00:03:12.260 --> 00:03:20.669 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: The challenge is that going too fast with this kind of endeavor can truly destabilize us.
00:03:21.060 --> 00:03:25.699 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: It can overwhelm our nervous system as well as our Psyche.
00:03:26.340 --> 00:03:32.890 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and to those around us we may seem as if we have had a psychic split.
00:03:33.520 --> 00:03:39.000 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: for we are actually looking at the whole situation as if in a mirror.
00:03:39.720 --> 00:03:47.469 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: The purpose of spiritual evolution is not to ascend and leave this world behind.
00:03:48.290 --> 00:03:56.400 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: It is to descend these high energies and bring them into this world to improve it.
00:03:57.460 --> 00:04:03.310 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: By doing so, we actually raise all those around us.
00:04:04.040 --> 00:04:08.230 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and the entire world ascends with us.
00:04:08.950 --> 00:04:21.230 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: There is such a misconception going around in many spiritual communities and practices that we are to escape this world by going into the world of spirit.
00:04:22.190 --> 00:04:24.939 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: When we turn that concept around
00:04:25.010 --> 00:04:31.510 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and make our purpose to bring that spiritual energy into this world
00:04:32.010 --> 00:04:36.180 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: we have a completely different experience and approach.
00:04:36.970 --> 00:04:42.760 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: We are no longer looking to escape this world, but to improve it.
00:04:43.510 --> 00:04:49.619 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Life is not about rising up our energy so much that we cannot function.
00:04:50.150 --> 00:04:56.990 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: It is about functioning so well that we can bring these energies into our day-to-day life.
00:04:58.050 --> 00:05:00.800 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: The world is not something to escape.
00:05:01.290 --> 00:05:06.010 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: It is something to cherish and love with all our heart.
00:05:07.470 --> 00:05:15.169 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: to bring our true spiritual nature to serve this world is the ultimate spiritual practice.
00:05:16.740 --> 00:05:23.360 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: How much better off would this world be if we all adopted this perspective?
00:05:24.140 --> 00:05:27.100 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: It might not be the way you were taught.
00:05:27.800 --> 00:05:30.469 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: yet it makes so much more sense.
00:05:30.890 --> 00:05:36.589 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and it creates a more grounded approach to all of our spiritual practices.
00:05:37.780 --> 00:05:43.270 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Are you using your spiritual practice to escape this world, or to improve it.
00:05:44.540 --> 00:05:48.420 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: So I wrote this blog post a couple of years ago.
00:05:50.740 --> 00:05:55.479 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: For a couple of reasons, and I I think initially.
00:05:55.730 --> 00:06:02.730 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: it was my wife, who was a therapist, had a client who had experienced a Kundalini awakening.
00:06:02.800 --> 00:06:19.490 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and was having a very difficult time just functioning in the world. From this deep spiritual experience, and they were very ungrounded. They had a lot of challenges in relationships and holding down a job. And just.
00:06:19.570 --> 00:06:22.730 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: you know, being able to support themselves and everything else.
00:06:24.080 --> 00:06:31.139 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and it sort of brought up this whole idea because, you know, many years ago.
00:06:31.680 --> 00:06:34.790 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: when I was studying with different spiritual teachers.
00:06:36.570 --> 00:06:57.209 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and one in particular who was all about spiritual ascension. And I just remember he was like, you know, I'm just looking to like, like get out of this world not come back again, not reincarnate, I want to, you know. Go back and and and you know, re emerge back into source consciousness
00:06:59.330 --> 00:07:06.770 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and and and there's kind of this, this spiritual judgmentalness
00:07:07.070 --> 00:07:11.059 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: around the physical world and physical life.
00:07:12.200 --> 00:07:20.319 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: That this is something bad in some way, like like like the physicality of life is what causes all our suffering
00:07:22.160 --> 00:07:33.310 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and and what I've come to know for myself. And again, this is all my own personal perspective and opinion, and maybe this doesn't resonate for you.
00:07:34.470 --> 00:07:42.749 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: But for me there's so much beauty in this world, there's there's so many possibilities there's so much to
00:07:43.030 --> 00:07:52.640 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: see and do and connect with different people. It just to me feels like this world has so many possibilities
00:07:53.870 --> 00:07:59.780 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: that I've come to realize that. No, it's it's not about escaping this world.
00:08:00.620 --> 00:08:05.109 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: It's about bringing more of ourselves into life.
00:08:05.160 --> 00:08:09.870 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: so that we can show up in a way that that
00:08:10.190 --> 00:08:12.519 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: that we bring heaven on earth
00:08:12.650 --> 00:08:20.670 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: that we, we make other people's lives better. We make our own life better, that we, we live in a way that
00:08:20.960 --> 00:08:29.560 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: serves ourselves and serves everyone to me that just feels
00:08:29.800 --> 00:08:32.229 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: much more true in my heart
00:08:32.549 --> 00:08:35.400 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: that we're not here to escape this world.
00:08:35.750 --> 00:08:50.819 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: even though, of course, there are times when things can be overwhelming when it can feel like you know, the whole world is is going to hell in a handbasket, and you know things aren't going the way we in our human conscious mind think they should go.
00:08:52.260 --> 00:08:55.189 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And yeah, it can be challenging, and it can be tough.
00:08:58.090 --> 00:09:02.360 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: But I don't know. It just feels to me like we're here for a reason.
00:09:03.200 --> 00:09:06.990 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and that reason is not to get away from this world.
00:09:09.340 --> 00:09:16.140 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: The the former owner of this radio station became a Theravadam Buddhist monk, and
00:09:16.490 --> 00:09:24.670 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: dedicated the rest of his life to meditating in the forest and really focusing on his spiritual practice.
00:09:25.460 --> 00:09:29.190 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And I'm sure he'll get tremendous benefit from that.
00:09:30.320 --> 00:09:35.679 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And he does come out of the forest, and he does interact with people at certain times.
00:09:37.410 --> 00:09:42.660 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: But to me in this world. It just feels to me like we need more people
00:09:43.200 --> 00:09:47.620 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: who can develop the spiritual practice and have that internal
00:09:47.970 --> 00:10:01.780 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: world of a monk, but be living in the cities be living in society, be living where we're connecting and and interacting with other human beings that like that is where
00:10:02.680 --> 00:10:04.980 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: our real purpose lies.
00:10:06.590 --> 00:10:15.120 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And so I just really, you know, this blog post poured out of me because I just really felt
00:10:16.390 --> 00:10:20.480 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: the need to give a different perspective
00:10:21.530 --> 00:10:26.879 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: to to offer to people who, you know.
00:10:26.910 --> 00:10:36.580 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: have a spiritual path, who have a spiritual heart in that they want to, you know, connect more
00:10:37.080 --> 00:10:44.370 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: with those energies, those high frequency energies that go beyond our rational understanding. I get it.
00:10:44.670 --> 00:10:46.159 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: I love it, too.
00:10:46.520 --> 00:10:54.349 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: you know. That's why my my logo back here is an homage to Doctor Strange, because he's the one superhero who was a magician.
00:10:58.870 --> 00:11:05.070 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: But maybe if we stopped trying to escape this world
00:11:07.780 --> 00:11:11.409 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and started to see this world as a gift.
00:11:13.450 --> 00:11:18.320 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and see what can we do to truly contribute to the world to make it better
00:11:18.840 --> 00:11:23.469 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and see the beauty that exists all around us?
00:11:24.410 --> 00:11:27.650 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Maybe then we wouldn't feel the need to escape.
00:11:28.560 --> 00:11:34.289 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Maybe then we could just appreciate and have gratitude
00:11:34.440 --> 00:11:37.059 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: for all that life brings us.
00:11:37.250 --> 00:11:39.280 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And in the end isn't that
00:11:39.810 --> 00:11:44.480 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: of real spiritual practice learning to be grateful for all of it?
00:11:44.680 --> 00:11:50.569 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: The wanted, the unwanted, the desired, the undesired experiences of life.
00:11:52.190 --> 00:11:57.990 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: What would life be like if we could have the internal space to hold all of that
00:11:59.040 --> 00:12:00.939 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: with a sense of gratitude.
00:12:02.040 --> 00:12:10.640 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: So that's my blog post. It's entitled. Our Spiritual practice is meant to improve this world, not escape it.
00:12:11.140 --> 00:12:17.550 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And of course you can always find my blog@talkradio.nyc slash.
00:12:17.610 --> 00:12:25.129 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: blog, or on my personally branded website, The consciousconsultant.com.
00:12:26.560 --> 00:12:37.959 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And so now it is my pleasure to welcome to the show speaker, bestselling author and business and executive coach, Jane Warillo
00:12:38.720 --> 00:12:47.950 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Jane is the founder of sacred change makers, a podcast and community that brings together people who want to reimagine business and make a bigger impact.
00:12:47.970 --> 00:12:52.889 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: She plays at the intersection between soul business and technology.
00:12:53.220 --> 00:13:00.529 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Jane is one of the world's most exclusive business coaches, and her clients are by invitation and referral only.
00:13:00.650 --> 00:13:17.600 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: She has worked with Ceos and senior executive teams from around the world, and despite working with millionaires and celebrities, her true passion is inspiring. Coaches, consultants, and change makers to become and do the extraordinary in life and business.
00:13:18.350 --> 00:13:21.049 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Welcome to the conscious consultant hour. Jane.
00:13:21.270 --> 00:13:27.769 Jayne Warrilow: Oh, Sam, thank you so much for having me. That blog post was so in alignment with my work. I can't wait for our conversation.
00:13:27.770 --> 00:13:44.950 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Me, too. Me, too. It's so funny because I really don't cherry pick these blog posts, yet they always seem to be so apropos for for the guests that I have on. So we just have a couple of minutes before we go to our 1st break. But, Jane, I would love to know, like.
00:13:46.120 --> 00:14:05.489 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: what sort of brought you to this world of working with sacred change makers like? Have you always had a very spiritual side to yourself? Have you always been good at having a foot in both the business world and in the spiritual world? Or is this, or did something happen
00:14:05.870 --> 00:14:13.020 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: later on in life. That kind of caused an awakening. And you were like, Okay, I got to change the way I'm living.
00:14:13.750 --> 00:14:20.520 Jayne Warrilow: Yes, so it's a yes and a yes to what you just said. I think my life has been a series of awakenings.
00:14:20.520 --> 00:14:45.520 Jayne Warrilow: But yes, I've always been on a spiritual path, but that was my personal life, my business life, my strategy, you know, my Mba. All of those things was very separate, until really I had an illness following the birth of my son Jacob, and a terminal diagnosis which put me in a place where I literally had to heal myself and put together
00:14:45.520 --> 00:14:48.330 Jayne Warrilow: a fringe medicine team to help me heal.
00:14:48.330 --> 00:15:12.880 Jayne Warrilow: This was back in the early 2 thousands, and when I came back to business and leadership work after healing myself, and I hadn't realized I'd been on a very spiritual journey. I was bedridden for 4 years. Numerous surgeries. Nothing worked. And so that was my 1st big awakening, that integrated consciousness and spirituality and a sacred approach, if you like, to my business and leadership, coaching practice.
00:15:12.880 --> 00:15:23.939 Jayne Warrilow: And then another incident, another awakening in 2,019, when my daughter gave birth to my 1st granddaughter. I was there at the birth.
00:15:24.030 --> 00:15:51.649 Jayne Warrilow: and during that birth. Yes, I had Grandma tears. She was my 1st granddaughter. I was holding this little soul, and she's also Hispanic and female, and it plunged me into a little bit of a dark night of the soul, reflecting back on what is now 30 years as a business and executive coach, working globally, and to look at. What kind of world am I bringing this granddaughter into?
00:15:51.650 --> 00:16:05.330 Jayne Warrilow: This is not the world I want her to be in. I look back on my career. Yes, I've been incredibly successful. I've exited a number of consultancies. I've done really well financially. But is that enough for me?
00:16:05.420 --> 00:16:17.600 Jayne Warrilow: Changed a lot of lives. But I've also made a lot of people a lot of money, and I realized I needed to go beyond profit. And that was the origin and the beginning of Sacred change. Makers.
00:16:17.750 --> 00:16:42.590 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Wonderful, wonderful, so beautiful, so beautiful and succinct. Thank you so much. She's a real professional, you know. This is my kind of guest, all right. So we're going to take our 1st break when we come back. So let's talk about that transition and that change. And what was that like for you, and the challenges around that, and the surprises around that, and and what had a shift and change within you to really bring that into being.
00:16:42.590 --> 00:17:04.569 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: So everyone, please stay tuned. You're listening to the conscious consultant hour awakening humanity. We do this every Thursday 12 noon to one Pm. Eastern time right here on Talkradio, Dot, Nyc. And all over social media on Youtube and Facebook and Twitter and Linkedin and Twitch, and we'll be right back with our guest, Jane Warrelo in just a moment.
00:19:20.650 --> 00:19:30.700 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And welcome back to the conscious consultant hour awakening humanity. We're speaking this hour with Jane Warlow. Am I pronouncing that right? I'm probably not pronouncing that right.
00:19:30.998 --> 00:19:33.089 Jayne Warrilow: In the English it would be warillow.
00:19:33.090 --> 00:19:33.650 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Tomorrow.
00:19:34.620 --> 00:19:37.610 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And where are you from? Initially, I can tell they have a bit.
00:19:37.610 --> 00:19:47.899 Jayne Warrilow: Yes, I'm originally from England, from the North West, a little town called Blackpool that Americans don't understand, but it's probably the wrong side of the tracks.
00:19:47.900 --> 00:19:48.700 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Ha! Ha! Ha!
00:19:49.389 --> 00:19:50.080 Jayne Warrilow: Maybe.
00:19:50.080 --> 00:19:52.969 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: We we? I think that's a phrase Americans do know.
00:19:52.970 --> 00:19:55.670 Jayne Warrilow: That's right.
00:19:55.940 --> 00:19:58.039 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: So so, Jane, you had this
00:19:58.700 --> 00:20:03.000 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: epiphany when you were holding your granddaughter. What kind of world
00:20:03.270 --> 00:20:15.989 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: are you bringing her into? Are we going to leave her, you know, when older, and and I unfortunately do not have children, and but I have nieces and nephews, and I do do think about this.
00:20:17.090 --> 00:20:20.890 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and I'm just curious. If you have a perspective around.
00:20:21.860 --> 00:20:30.565 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: why so much in business is so short-sighted like I kind of see, like
00:20:31.520 --> 00:20:39.259 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: so much in business seems so extractive and so unsustainable
00:20:39.340 --> 00:20:45.619 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and so short-sighted. And and I'm curious, like, what is it that that
00:20:45.890 --> 00:20:48.309 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: has gotten so many of these
00:20:48.520 --> 00:21:00.079 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: people? Because it's not just one individual at the top of a giant corporation. It takes many layers of people to all buy into that system. Why is the system in business, so
00:21:00.550 --> 00:21:03.569 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: not conscious, I guess, is the way to put it.
00:21:05.060 --> 00:21:31.090 Jayne Warrilow: Well, I think over the years you know the way that we talk about, and the way that we think about capitalism and consumerism has kind of grown in a way that it's almost like the pendulum has swung too far. I mean, if we go back to the 19 fifties before we started to look at things like efficiency in business before we really started to, you know, before
00:21:31.090 --> 00:21:42.939 Jayne Warrilow: manufacturing started to break down into component parts and start to treat humans like machines. I think that there was a lot more of value driven business as I would see it.
00:21:42.940 --> 00:22:02.220 Jayne Warrilow: But I think also it's got something to do with the pursuit of power, right, which I think is kind of endemic for most of us, as humans is, we look to kind of ascend to gain more power, more control over our lives. And I think that spilled over into consumerism and the economy.
00:22:02.220 --> 00:22:20.120 Jayne Warrilow: And of course, power is where the money is in the Consumerist society. And you know, when you start to look at, how do you make an organization or a business more efficient? It's a different question to how do you optimize or make it more even more effective?
00:22:20.170 --> 00:22:35.439 Jayne Warrilow: Right? And so efficiency is where it all began, I think, looking to really lower costs and higher profits. And then, as we started to realize, we have stakeholders in organizational life.
00:22:35.440 --> 00:22:55.049 Jayne Warrilow: then it's almost like when I say the pendulum swung too far. It's almost like everything is about profit in organizational life. So at the end of the day, if something isn't going to make profit, it's not going to get done. If something's going to lower profit, it's seen as a cost center. So again, it's not an attractive thing.
00:22:55.050 --> 00:23:24.620 Jayne Warrilow: But if somebody can come up with a way to actually squeeze the cost to the lowest point, and really get more and more people into the organization or the business, selling more products or services, then we have more profit. At the end of the day we also have more power over our industry. We can start to lead in a way. Now, what that's done is it's meant that profit has almost become the god of industry. We've put it on a pedestal
00:23:24.760 --> 00:23:28.010 Jayne Warrilow: to the extent that we've almost.
00:23:28.150 --> 00:23:54.770 Jayne Warrilow: And I'll say almost we've almost forgotten everything else that matters in business. We can have forgotten our origin story, our passion. Why, we created the organization in the 1st place, and change, as we know. And technology, as we know, is helping that efficiency model. Which means that I believe that we've we've kind of moved into this space somewhat unwittingly.
00:23:55.040 --> 00:24:18.560 Jayne Warrilow: Or I hope that's what we've done. And now it's almost like we didn't realize the extent of what we were creating and how we were extracting from the planet, how we were using. I mean, just the title Human Resources says an awful lot about how much humanity there is in organizational life. To the extent that I would say today
00:24:18.560 --> 00:24:41.800 Jayne Warrilow: we've lost our soul. We've just forgotten. It's not that it's wrong. Please let me be clear about that. It's not wrong. Money makes the world go round. It's still important, and I think it will be while consumerism still reigns in the way it does. So I'm not negating profit. I'm not saying it's wrong. I'm just saying it's a very limited view of the value that business can bring to society.
00:24:42.310 --> 00:24:49.110 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: So it you with sacred changemakers. You're about sort of bringing the the
00:24:49.500 --> 00:24:58.899 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: the sacred back into business. I imagine there must be some resistance initially like when you 1st had this idea, and you 1st kind of
00:24:58.930 --> 00:25:09.609 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: changed your brand and your identity around this, did you hit a lot of resistance, or just a little bit of resistance, like what was that transition process like.
00:25:09.990 --> 00:25:34.320 Jayne Warrilow: You know, it's really interesting. I've resisted this for an awfully long time. So let me be really honest with this. I thought if I started talking about spirituality and the sacred, particularly upfront before people really knew me. Very well. Then, you know, I couldn't talk about that in my marketing, because it would undervalue my authority right? Because it's almost like in organizational life and in leadership.
00:25:34.320 --> 00:25:57.799 Jayne Warrilow: We have the polarities like you're either a for profit organization or you're a not for profit. You're either spiritual or you're strategic and tactical like. It's like, never the twain shall meet. So yes, you're right. I had a lot of resistance. And when I 1st had this idea for sacred changemakers, I remember going to a mastermind group that I was in with really top thought leaders, and without
00:25:58.050 --> 00:26:26.319 Jayne Warrilow: fail everybody said, we love the word change makers, but there's no way you can use the word sacred in it right? It's going to turn everybody off. And here's the interesting thing, Sam, because that was that kind of reinforced my view. And every time I was on my computer and I was typing sacred changemakers. And this is no word of a lie. The spell check would change it to scared change makers.
00:26:26.320 --> 00:26:35.109 Jayne Warrilow: And I was like, Okay, this is where my fear is, and therefore this is where I need to go, because this is not just what I want.
00:26:35.110 --> 00:27:01.670 Jayne Warrilow: This is what's necessary today, and that's the shift I think that sacred changemakers bring. So to embody that myself, I needed to lead. And I'm very passionate about this integration. And so I was like, Okay, so sacred changemakers. I started talking to a few clients. Now, my clients work in iconic organizations globally, and I remember talking to a senior Executive.
00:27:01.940 --> 00:27:05.540 Jayne Warrilow: I'm not going to say the organization it was from, but everybody knows the name.
00:27:05.560 --> 00:27:13.580 Jayne Warrilow: and what's interesting is when I open the conversation with senior execs. What happens is
00:27:13.770 --> 00:27:26.110 Jayne Warrilow: they just go. This is exactly what we need. You're right. We've lost our soul, and we don't want to forget profit. But we do want to expand into.
00:27:26.110 --> 00:27:50.899 Jayne Warrilow: You know the the expansive nature of what you're discussing here at sacred change makers, which is kind of 3 major themes. It's inspiring change, but not just change regenerative change. It's becoming resonant as a leader. So when you were talking about your blog post today, we talk about the full spectrum of vibration from the highest
00:27:50.920 --> 00:28:05.039 Jayne Warrilow: frequencies down to the lowest, because you need to know them all. They're all very important in the modern world, and then designing business as a force for good, so becoming more conscious in the way that you approach business. And
00:28:05.100 --> 00:28:23.630 Jayne Warrilow: I've been really shocked. That kind of under the radar. This is like a hidden impulse for many senior executives, and particularly for coaches and consultants and trainers and facilitators. This is the work we want to be doing. Why?
00:28:23.630 --> 00:28:35.370 Jayne Warrilow: Well, because this matters, this is legacy work. It's full of meaning, and it enables every individual that touches an organization, whether an employee, a customer or client
00:28:35.380 --> 00:28:45.640 Jayne Warrilow: to actually feel a different presence that comes from the internal culture, but also from the products and the offers and the services within the marketplace.
00:28:45.650 --> 00:28:59.919 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Right? Right? Because it affects. You know not just how you show up in the office or in the workplace. It affects. What kinds of markets, what kinds of products you create, how you create them, where you create them. All of that stuff.
00:29:00.060 --> 00:29:01.080 Jayne Warrilow: Thank you.
00:29:01.170 --> 00:29:09.110 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Beautiful, beautiful. Okay, we. We need to take our next break when we come back. I would like to just talk about okay. So
00:29:09.240 --> 00:29:12.720 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: you found that there was some buy-in here? Where did it go from there?
00:29:12.820 --> 00:29:24.450 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And and sort of what you kind of see the trajectory going? Because I was actually kind of surprised to hear you say that so many senior executives are actually open to the idea. So that gives me some hope.
00:29:25.610 --> 00:29:36.929 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: So everyone, please stay tuned. You're listening to the conscious consultant hour awakening humanity, and we will be right back with our guest. Jane Warlow, in just a moment.
00:31:45.040 --> 00:31:46.480 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And welcome back.
00:31:47.420 --> 00:31:50.380 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: So, Jane, when you
00:31:50.650 --> 00:32:03.679 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: started to work with these senior executives in a different way, and and sort of approaching it from more the sense of the sacred they were actually open to it. It sounds like you were kind of surprised about that.
00:32:03.880 --> 00:32:26.110 Jayne Warrilow: Yeah, I really was. I really was. Because if you think about the veneer of business, this is not the language that we use. And if you think about the word sacred in itself, that's kind of confined to organized religion in a way. So one of the things I knew that I needed to do was kind of reclaim that word back into just kind of modern life
00:32:26.110 --> 00:32:42.449 Jayne Warrilow: and detach it from organised religion. Because when I ask leaders a question which is just very simply this, you know, if you were to consider your life or your leadership as sacred, what would be different?
00:32:42.760 --> 00:32:58.769 Jayne Warrilow: The most incredible responses come out from people. And, to be quite frank, that's where it started, because I was just kind of dipping my toe in the water to see how people would do. And this has been my work. Not just since I started sacred changemakers
00:32:58.770 --> 00:33:14.270 Jayne Warrilow: for my clients. They've known about my spiritual path because my body of work of resonance started in 2,004 when I was talking about energetic frequencies. I was mapping consciousness against leadership and business. I just wasn't marketing it.
00:33:14.990 --> 00:33:25.880 Jayne Warrilow: Right, you see. So I was attracting the clients with their issues, and then we would go in. I would go in me and my teams, and we would do the what it felt like, the real work.
00:33:25.910 --> 00:33:42.750 Jayne Warrilow: the real work of human change. Because people forget that organizations are relational. We're made up of a you know, a number of human people. And yes, we've got growing technology coming in as well. But the technology doesn't work without the humans, either.
00:33:42.750 --> 00:33:43.330 Jayne Warrilow: Right?
00:33:43.330 --> 00:34:07.159 Jayne Warrilow: So it's this human aspect of business and organizational life that I've been doing through a resonance lens. And then I brought in the sacred lens, you know, really, around 2014, 15. So I'd been playing in this sandbox. I just hadn't gone all out and got onto my soapbox if you like.
00:34:07.160 --> 00:34:11.460 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And so, since you've kind of came out of the closet, so to speak.
00:34:11.460 --> 00:34:12.295 Jayne Warrilow: Yeah.
00:34:13.139 --> 00:34:17.989 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Have you found much more acceptance? Have you found any resistance in general?
00:34:17.989 --> 00:34:30.979 Jayne Warrilow: Oh, yes, of course, of course I live in the Midwest, right? And so I launched this when I was in California. So that'll tell you something. Yes, you know there's a
00:34:31.249 --> 00:34:38.489 Jayne Warrilow: there's a whole swathe of people who have no awareness really of this at all, I mean.
00:34:38.559 --> 00:35:02.769 Jayne Warrilow: But if you look at if you're if you're a leader and you're reading things like Harvard Business Review and things like that, you're starting to see things like spiritual intelligence coming through. So we're starting to have the conversations. But yes, we're pushing the membrane of what's possible for leaders and business right now. But also we're doing it. Because I think when I look out into the world today and I see the
00:35:02.789 --> 00:35:15.189 Jayne Warrilow: the multitude of challenges that we're facing. And I look at, how have we got to where we are today? It's a little bit like the 1st question you asked me. I think we've got here
00:35:15.189 --> 00:35:25.829 Jayne Warrilow: in a way that we weren't fully aware of the impact our business practices were having, say, on the climate, on biodiversity, on the planet, on the humans that are working within it.
00:35:25.829 --> 00:35:49.779 Jayne Warrilow: But now you look at, we've got the highest rates of suicide. We've got the quiet resignation where everybody's just going to work to get their paycheck because they just can't stand where they work. We've got people leaving jobs at a higher rate because they don't like the leaders that are above them. So you start to look at all these challenges, and that doesn't even go into the way we're extracting from the planet and killing species all in the name of profit.
00:35:50.249 --> 00:36:00.509 Jayne Warrilow: Right? So you start to look at all these things. And it all comes back to me, to this idea, that and the rise of AI also plays into this, which is.
00:36:00.609 --> 00:36:13.639 Jayne Warrilow: now we've got AI that can do is beginning to do these large language models are beginning to do some of the transactional things that humans do all right. And I'm not going to go into. Where is it going but
00:36:13.709 --> 00:36:25.049 Jayne Warrilow: what it's meant for me and for my community. And this is a conversation that's very alive is instead of worrying about the AI, we're thinking, yeah, but what does it mean to be human?
00:36:25.049 --> 00:36:48.749 Jayne Warrilow: What's different about humans to the machines, and that then starts to bring in a whole deeper conversation about, you know, we start to look at physicality emotions, intellect, you know intelligences. You know, you can look at how a gardener's multiple intelligences, from spiritual to emotional to social all of those things
00:36:48.749 --> 00:37:01.629 Jayne Warrilow: that we've known for years in leadership development, but we have no shared definition of what it means to be human. And yet here we are supposedly the most intelligent species on the planet.
00:37:01.760 --> 00:37:02.260 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Yeah.
00:37:02.260 --> 00:37:17.950 Jayne Warrilow: And then I started to think about well, if we don't know what it means to be human, then actually, what does it mean to be human in business. What does it mean to lead? Again, we've got a variety of definitions of what it means to lead.
00:37:18.070 --> 00:37:35.299 Jayne Warrilow: But again, it's intent. It's kind of intentionally relational. So if you as a if you're not a good human, how can you be a good leader? So that's where, when I, my book beyond profit came out just about 10 days ago.
00:37:35.300 --> 00:38:00.280 Jayne Warrilow: and I'm already getting so much feedback and responses from the market where people are amazed. So to answer your question. I had somebody from the Us. Treasury in the DC. Who runs a team and has read my book, loves it and says, can't wait to start to implement some of these practices with my team, because, he said, I had no idea that this was possible in leadership.
00:38:00.430 --> 00:38:10.630 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Which brings me to really the expansive nature of the work which is really around the 8 dimensions of change, not just.
00:38:10.720 --> 00:38:14.690 Jayne Warrilow: Like a 1 dimensional change. So.
00:38:14.690 --> 00:38:21.150 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: I'm wondering if you can maybe give us a quick example of like a leader you worked with.
00:38:21.320 --> 00:38:37.200 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And and after they sort of shifted their consciousness or shifted their perspective. Maybe. What were some of the little things that they changed that made it more in alignment, with a more sacred way of viewing business.
00:38:38.360 --> 00:38:47.570 Jayne Warrilow: I think they'd always cared right. So let me say that. But they didn't think that that was allowed in that organisation. So there's 1 leader that I worked with in A.
00:38:47.960 --> 00:39:07.569 Jayne Warrilow: They were the head of Emea for a large mobile phone company in Europe, and I'll tell you now that the change that we did. I worked with them for 3 years. We did a full scale culture change through the organization, and the impact of that was an increase of 448 million.
00:39:07.650 --> 00:39:26.280 Jayne Warrilow: right? So there was a lot of people involved. Now, what did we do? We did. We did a blend of coaching and training and culture change. But we also did systemic change. But here's where it all started was talking. I was coaching this leader, one on one right at the very beginning, and
00:39:26.530 --> 00:39:42.830 Jayne Warrilow: and it was a woman. But it was a woman acting like a man, because that's what's needed when you're a senior executive in an organization, and she said, I really care about my team. But then, when we talked to the team, the team didn't know that she didn't think she cared at all.
00:39:42.930 --> 00:40:03.730 Jayne Warrilow: So then it was, well, what are we going to allow? What's the culture? What's the behaviors? What's the beliefs we're holding that are making you behave in this way, and she started to say, Well, I don't think that's allowed. I have to leave my emotions on the door when I walk in. That's what the CEO says. There's no space here for emotion.
00:40:03.930 --> 00:40:18.570 Jayne Warrilow: And I was thinking, Well, how do you run an organization when there's no space for emotion. Emotion is what derails most leaders. So it's like making space and then becoming intentional about those changes. So it started with her and her inner
00:40:18.660 --> 00:40:24.140 Jayne Warrilow: sense of reconnecting to what really mattered most to her. And what mattered most was people.
00:40:24.510 --> 00:40:42.520 Jayne Warrilow: But then, showing that through her leadership, showing she cared putting things in place where she was actually communicating that, and then allowing the team to. I mean silly little things, allowing the team to make mistakes. So many environments. They don't allow teams to make mistakes.
00:40:42.520 --> 00:40:43.030 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Yeah.
00:40:43.030 --> 00:40:44.899 Jayne Warrilow: And then what happens is.
00:40:44.940 --> 00:40:55.440 Jayne Warrilow: people get more contented at work. They find more meaning. We shifted some people out of roles that they weren't well fitted for. We put them in roles where they could really flourish.
00:40:55.470 --> 00:41:05.410 Jayne Warrilow: So you start to see the life energy in the team tick up. Then other departments started to say, What are you doing? Because that, like my team.
00:41:05.590 --> 00:41:06.400 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Oh!
00:41:06.400 --> 00:41:33.539 Jayne Warrilow: Need this. And so it started to go out. And that's where we really did. It was a fantastic organization in that they were really open to the changes. But these were very human. Soft skill changes that we did. And when you integrate that into the masculinity that's alive in many, many organizations, and you start to bring in some feminine energy and integrate it
00:41:33.760 --> 00:41:45.609 Jayne Warrilow: and start to show that you care. You care for you. Then the people inside the organization care for the clients. More. The marketing department start to put out a different, slightly nuanced.
00:41:45.610 --> 00:41:46.210 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Messaging.
00:41:46.210 --> 00:42:09.950 Jayne Warrilow: It attracts more people. There's more meaning in the organization. And today clients and customers are looking for more meaning. We've moved the marketplace beyond the transactions. So we started to see how this was impacting the bottom line, and it hit a point where it just really started to grow. And before we knew it. They were the leading company in Europe.
00:42:10.240 --> 00:42:10.790 Jayne Warrilow: and.
00:42:10.790 --> 00:42:14.529 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: What I'm hearing you say and correct me. If I'm wrong, is.
00:42:15.740 --> 00:42:19.330 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: it's almost more sort of the subtlety
00:42:19.450 --> 00:42:23.899 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: of showing up differently in the office.
00:42:24.370 --> 00:42:28.089 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: allowing people to just be human
00:42:28.110 --> 00:42:31.089 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and not expecting people to be robots
00:42:31.260 --> 00:42:41.740 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and and just creating an environment in a space where people can feel more alive and more engaged.
00:42:41.940 --> 00:42:47.349 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and then the the all the little details kind of worked out for themselves in a way.
00:42:47.760 --> 00:42:51.669 Jayne Warrilow: Well it is. And there's 1 other thing that I haven't mentioned which is purpose.
00:42:51.670 --> 00:42:52.180 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: No, he's not.
00:42:52.180 --> 00:42:59.920 Jayne Warrilow: Understanding that the organization has its goals and its strategies. And you know, but does it have?
00:42:59.920 --> 00:43:27.389 Jayne Warrilow: It's purpose? Why are people going to work. Why would people buy what you have right? These questions were deeper, and we worked a lot on purpose, because purpose is not just a marketing message, you know, so that you can greenwash out in the marketplace. It's literally something that needs to be embodied through the organization, and every individual needs to find a way to integrate their personal purpose into the organizational purpose.
00:43:27.390 --> 00:43:35.289 Jayne Warrilow: And so once you get that level of alignment, everybody knows that they matter that the work they do matters.
00:43:35.840 --> 00:43:43.559 Jayne Warrilow: the purchase they make matters beyond the transaction. That's what really makes a difference.
00:43:43.960 --> 00:44:01.250 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And also what I'm hearing you say is, it actually makes the organization a more effective organization than one that is unconscious. That doesn't have purpose, and that ends up leading to a more profitable business, which is ultimately what the business is about to begin with, anyway. But it's
00:44:01.770 --> 00:44:04.839 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: finding that path through a different route.
00:44:05.140 --> 00:44:15.220 Jayne Warrilow: Yes, and we're now seeing the data. We've had so many years of this now. And you know it's not just me doing this work. There's a lot of people. And the research shows that
00:44:15.230 --> 00:44:21.250 Jayne Warrilow: purpose-driven organizations outperform just normal organizations. 12 to one.
00:44:21.250 --> 00:44:22.579 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: 12 to one.
00:44:22.580 --> 00:44:25.029 Jayne Warrilow: Not 2 to 1, 12 to one.
00:44:25.030 --> 00:44:29.389 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: 12 to one. Wow, wow! Wonderful, wonderful.
00:44:29.580 --> 00:44:35.050 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Okay. It's a good point for us to take our last break of the show. I could talk to you for hours and hours.
00:44:36.216 --> 00:44:40.989 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: When we come back. Can we prognosticate a little bit.
00:44:41.650 --> 00:44:48.409 Jayne Warrilow: We can. I'd love to share the 8 dimensions of change as well with you, because that will give people a really good access point.
00:44:48.410 --> 00:44:57.950 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Yes. Well, I do want to talk a little bit more about your book beyond profit. What's the heart of it? What's the intention behind it. And and what do you hope people get from it? Okay.
00:44:57.950 --> 00:44:58.960 Jayne Warrilow: Yeah, perfect.
00:44:58.960 --> 00:45:12.189 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Wonderful. So everyone, please stay tuned. You're listening to the conscious consultant hour awakening humanity. Our guest this hour has been, Jane, and we'll be right back to wrap it all up in just a moment.
00:47:19.730 --> 00:47:39.399 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: So, Jane, as you mentioned your book beyond profit just recently came out. Unfortunately, I don't have a copy I can hold up. But can you just tell us, like, what is the purpose behind the book? What do you hope people get out of the book? And what, as you said, the 8 essentials that we can get. We don't have a lot of time, so we need to keep things tight.
00:47:40.350 --> 00:47:44.710 Jayne Warrilow: Yeah. So it really is about, it's an invitation, I think.
00:47:44.750 --> 00:48:12.130 Jayne Warrilow: to reimagine business and also to reimagine the way that we approach change, because change is a constant in all of our lives. And one of the things I noticed was that when I look back on my career I noticed that most of my kind of change initiatives had been in the I. Me. Mine conversations right in individual change. Now, what do I mean by that? I don't just mean working with individuals. I mean
00:48:12.130 --> 00:48:21.680 Jayne Warrilow: my leadership, my career, my team, my department, my organization. It's still me, my, I, me, mine right? And I realized that
00:48:21.740 --> 00:48:45.439 Jayne Warrilow: in a way, one of the 1st things I ask people as a coach when I'm working with a CEO or a senior exec is, you know, what do you want from this coaching? And I've realized that's a very limited question. Because in today's world, I think we also need to be asking what's necessary. What does the world need from you and your leadership right now? And that's a very big question.
00:48:45.440 --> 00:49:05.400 Jayne Warrilow: And this is where and I'll run through them very quickly, because I won't give a lot of time. But people get what they are. The 8 dimensions of change which I talk about a lot in this book is this idea of how can we expand, change to really think about it in a multiple perspective kind of way?
00:49:05.440 --> 00:49:11.850 Jayne Warrilow: Right? So we're not just walking through a narrow door of change. We're actually opening up a lot more possibility and potential.
00:49:11.960 --> 00:49:34.539 Jayne Warrilow: And what that is is, it's inner change to outer change right? So I need to do my own work within so that I can show up in a certain way like we've already talked about. And then so the being and the doing is very important on an individual level. But it's true. An organizational level, too, like the culture inside the organization can then serve their customers better. So inner to outer.
00:49:34.600 --> 00:49:56.960 Jayne Warrilow: Then we have upward change and downward change. This is about the levels of resonance or consciousness. Right? We need to be able to go to the higher frequencies. We need to be able to go to the lower frequencies to actually create in physical reality and through doing that. What we're really doing is what I call full spectrum resonance. But there's 9 levels. And here's the thing.
00:49:57.410 --> 00:50:07.660 Jayne Warrilow: Conflict arises when we don't realize that everybody lives in a very different world, right? 9 different worlds that we all live in. So we have to meet people where they are
00:50:07.670 --> 00:50:15.730 Jayne Warrilow: individual to collective change. I've already spoken about that like, what do I want? And what does the world need from me? It's.
00:50:15.730 --> 00:50:16.140 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Something that.
00:50:16.140 --> 00:50:27.169 Jayne Warrilow: Perspective, to start to think about that. And then short term change, because that's necessary in business. There are times when you've got to be really like, okay, we need to do this. And we need to do this now
00:50:27.190 --> 00:50:48.009 Jayne Warrilow: and then. There's long term change which we've often thought about. And we do learn this at coach training school. You know. What kind of am I going to be doing over a much longer time? So I might have a 5 year or a 10 year plan. And now I would suggest we need a legacy plan. We need to plant seeds that we will never see flourish in our lifetime.
00:50:48.070 --> 00:50:58.099 Jayne Warrilow: That is our legacy work that will continue long after we've gone, and the question I ask in the book is, what kind of an ancestor will you be?
00:50:58.270 --> 00:51:17.630 Jayne Warrilow: Literally, because that's where Phoebe, my granddaughter, took me is to this space. Of what kind of world am I leaving behind for her, and it took me beyond my lifetime to really think about. What will they say in the future, about our time in history, that we just killed everything.
00:51:17.760 --> 00:51:23.670 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: That we decimated the forest, that we had no humanity and organizational life, that we were just for profit.
00:51:24.170 --> 00:51:28.880 Jayne Warrilow: Or are we going to? Now? We know what will we do?
00:51:29.010 --> 00:51:32.380 Jayne Warrilow: And that, I think, is a really important question.
00:51:32.690 --> 00:51:35.870 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Yeah, yeah, absolutely. Absolutely.
00:51:36.410 --> 00:51:40.949 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: So. Given your experience over the last few years.
00:51:41.570 --> 00:51:51.050 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Are you more hopeful than you were in the past, or are you still very concerned? Where do you kind of see
00:51:51.370 --> 00:51:55.240 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: the impact of what you're doing? Where do you see it? Leading.
00:51:56.380 --> 00:52:08.459 Jayne Warrilow: Yeah, I'm incredibly hopeful. I have an unwavering kind of trust and faith in the potential of humans. I mean, look what we've created in the world.
00:52:08.630 --> 00:52:32.640 Jayne Warrilow: I lived last October with the indigenous, not 3 different indigenous nations in the Amazon rainforest, and I saw how far we've come. It's incredible what we've created, what capitalism has kind of created in the modern world, the lives that we're born into here, and I know I stand on the shoulders of giants and everybody that came before.
00:52:32.900 --> 00:53:00.060 Jayne Warrilow: But here's something to really think about, which is, if I look around me now, just the fact that you and I are talking over technology at a great distance, Sam, how many people have been involved in just allowing this conversation to take place? I mean, I've got my Mac computer in front of me, a number of people built that, you know they innovated it. There's all these things around me that have all been built and created by humans.
00:53:00.170 --> 00:53:02.229 Jayne Warrilow: We're amazing.
00:53:02.260 --> 00:53:06.369 Jayne Warrilow: We can create this and we can create something differently, too.
00:53:06.550 --> 00:53:16.219 Jayne Warrilow: We just need a different intention. We need to learn how to integrate in the web of life, and not try and dominate it and stand apart from it.
00:53:16.240 --> 00:53:19.630 Jayne Warrilow: and that to me is essentially human.
00:53:19.750 --> 00:53:28.260 Jayne Warrilow: Knowing where we are knowing the part we can play, the value we can bring to life itself.
00:53:28.320 --> 00:53:32.170 Jayne Warrilow: not just society, but the whole world.
00:53:32.200 --> 00:53:34.879 Jayne Warrilow: We are incredible. So yes, I have
00:53:34.900 --> 00:53:56.710 Jayne Warrilow: an incredible amount of hope, and the thing is, there is an awful lot of incredibly good things happening in the world today and for the past decade. But media don't pick them up because what sells more negative news. But if you look, you can see the innovations. We're rising more people out of poverty than we ever had before.
00:53:56.760 --> 00:54:14.940 Jayne Warrilow: Right? So we're starting to really see that there is a sea change. We just don't know it yet, and there's a really really great quote, and I wish I could remember who said it. I need to go and look it up, and it says the future is already here. It's just not widely distributed yet.
00:54:16.360 --> 00:54:38.999 Jayne Warrilow: Right? So we've already got some incredible signs that this is the way we're moving, so much so that I will say this for your listeners to hear this is the future of business. There will be winners, there will be losers. Some people are still fighting for the old ways, and that's what we do. Other people are not. They're innovating for the new.
00:54:39.000 --> 00:54:51.009 Jayne Warrilow: So you've got to decide where you want to be. Which side of history you want to be on, and what kind of a future you want to live within? Because that's really the question that I'm bringing to the table.
00:54:51.090 --> 00:54:53.700 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Beautiful, beautiful, beautiful, beautiful.
00:54:54.560 --> 00:54:58.020 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: So we we've just got a couple of minutes left, if if there was
00:54:58.500 --> 00:55:15.749 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: for our listeners like if there's a listener, and and maybe they're they're struggling with their business, or or they're having a hard time in their workplace. What would be the one piece of advice you would give them to to help them to move the needle in the direction we're talking about this hour.
00:55:16.000 --> 00:55:16.620 Jayne Warrilow: Yeah.
00:55:16.780 --> 00:55:23.189 Jayne Warrilow: And it's very simple. Because I talk about big things. I talk about global change. I talk about changing the world all those things.
00:55:23.230 --> 00:55:49.939 Jayne Warrilow: But what you've to realize is that change happens on multi dimensional levels, and it doesn't have to be big. Every single person that's alive today matters. And so the change starts within just a 1% shift every day accumulates to massive change over time. And that could just be a simple act of kindness. It could be smiling just like my client that did so. Well show people you care.
00:55:50.060 --> 00:56:03.999 Jayne Warrilow: Really, you know, take care of the relationships in your life, and think about what it means for you. What does success mean for you? Not what the culture defines it to be, or your leader or manager tells you. It is
00:56:04.110 --> 00:56:23.319 Jayne Warrilow: what is it for you? Because if you can live into what matters most to you, then we'll already be building a much better world and society, and it will kind of trip over into business, not big changes, small changes of the things that matter most and who you're being
00:56:23.600 --> 00:56:29.640 Jayne Warrilow: really defines what you do and don't do in this world. So think about that. Who you're being and who you're becoming.
00:56:30.020 --> 00:56:42.099 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Yeah, absolutely absolutely speaking my language, Jane. It's been such a pleasure having you on the show. I literally could talk to you for hours hopefully. One day we'll we'll get an opportunity to do just that.
00:56:42.100 --> 00:56:42.585 Jayne Warrilow: Yeah.
00:56:43.070 --> 00:56:47.800 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Thank you for taking the time to come on my show. I really appreciate it. I wish you
00:56:47.840 --> 00:56:58.629 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: more and more success in the world, because I just know the more success you have, the more of a greater impact you have, the more you'll move the needle in the proper direction. I'll say.
00:56:58.950 --> 00:57:01.939 Jayne Warrilow: Thank you, Sam. It's been such a pleasure to talk to you.
00:57:01.940 --> 00:57:26.669 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Thank you. Thank you. And of course, thank you, my loyal listeners, who tune in every week and join the conversation. I so appreciate all of you. Without you there is no show. And please don't forget. If you did miss any part of today's show, you can always catch the replay on Talkradio, dot Nyc. Or on any of the podcasting platforms that you're already listening to like apple, spotify Pandora iheartradio.
00:57:26.920 --> 00:57:39.070 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Wherever you listen to podcasts, you can always find the conscious consultant hour. So thank you all for tuning in. I appreciate you all, and we will talk to you all next week. Take care.
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