EPISODE SUMMARY:
This week, on The Conscious Consultant Hour, Sam is pleased to welcome Founder, Marty Katz.
Marty is the creator of the Mindful Clarity program, which is a meditation consulting practice for executive level managers who seek to provide their team and organizations with the best leadership they can offer. They are managers who seek to develop ideas, strategies, programs and tactics to generate enhanced productivity and satisfaction.
The basis of the Mindful Clarity program are the Vedas, an ancient body of work that informs the Buddhist and Hindu traditions.
Marty has been a student of meditation for many years and have studied with teachers steeped in the wisdom of the Far East.
Through his studies, Marty has learned a range of meditation techniques, including breathing, mental focusing and mantras, which contain vibrational frequencies that move us into a meditative state.
His Mindful Clarity program synthesizes many techniques and is designed to make the process of meditation easy, uplifting, centering and deeply satisfying, especially for those without any meditation experience.
Marty has worked with executives of large and enterprise level organizations to support their efforts in achieving their leadership goals.
Tune in and share your questions and comments about meditation on our YouTube livestream or on our Facebook page.
00:00:45.190 --> 00:00:57.079 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Good afternoon, my conscious co-creators. Good morning. Good evening. Wherever you're tuning in from welcome to the conscious consultant hour awakening humanity.
00:00:57.630 --> 00:01:01.500 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Very, very pleased that you are all here with me today.
00:01:01.990 --> 00:01:06.560 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Another wonderful show in store for you, with wonderful guest
00:01:07.710 --> 00:01:10.540 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: him on soon. But first, st of course, we have
00:01:10.640 --> 00:01:12.929 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: my blog posts that we always start off
00:01:13.690 --> 00:01:21.050 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: our shows with a different blog post every week, and this week my blog post is entitled
00:01:22.400 --> 00:01:25.380 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: to increase our joy in life.
00:01:26.010 --> 00:01:28.710 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: we merely have to be more present.
00:01:29.440 --> 00:01:35.790 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Oh, we often set an intention for more joy.
00:01:36.420 --> 00:01:43.500 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and we want to enhance and increase those good feeling moments more of them more frequently.
00:01:44.340 --> 00:01:49.400 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Yet when we do, we are only looking at one side of our life.
00:01:50.760 --> 00:01:53.880 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: What we are focusing on is increasing the
00:01:53.990 --> 00:01:57.939 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: quantity of the experiences we desire.
00:01:59.390 --> 00:02:04.830 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: There is one way to look at our lives. That is one way to look at our lives
00:02:05.070 --> 00:02:08.000 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: if we are willing to take another approach.
00:02:08.150 --> 00:02:17.770 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: There is another way to improve the joy in our lives, but it is about quality, not quantity.
00:02:18.310 --> 00:02:24.510 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Instead of looking at how we can get more of those beautiful feeling experiences
00:02:24.840 --> 00:02:30.449 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: we can look at how to get more out of the experiences. We already have
00:02:31.560 --> 00:02:35.279 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: to suck more of the marrow out of life.
00:02:35.990 --> 00:02:38.070 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: So how do we do that?
00:02:38.780 --> 00:02:42.270 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: By seeking to be even more present
00:02:42.300 --> 00:02:46.230 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: to every moment in our lives?
00:02:47.390 --> 00:02:52.960 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Through greater presence we feel more, we feel more intensely.
00:02:53.440 --> 00:02:56.439 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Our emotions take us to greater heights
00:02:58.650 --> 00:03:04.380 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: when we are truly present to joy that is already in our lives.
00:03:04.420 --> 00:03:11.269 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: We amplify that joy, as we practice being in the moment more deeply.
00:03:11.720 --> 00:03:24.919 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Time almost slows down, that used to go by in an instant, now lasts hours or longer.
00:03:25.730 --> 00:03:30.790 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and there is a challenge to cultivating this level of presence.
00:03:31.290 --> 00:03:35.479 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: not just in the actual practice of how to do it.
00:03:36.680 --> 00:03:42.100 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: The real challenge is that when we achieve this level of presence.
00:03:42.140 --> 00:03:46.550 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: we are not just present to all the wonderful moments of life.
00:03:47.620 --> 00:03:50.820 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: We are also present to all the painful.
00:03:50.950 --> 00:03:53.880 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: tragic moments of life as well.
00:03:54.990 --> 00:03:59.919 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Those moments may feel excruciating when we are going through them.
00:04:00.630 --> 00:04:03.620 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: which is why we shy away from them.
00:04:04.280 --> 00:04:08.670 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Yet even in the painful moments of life there is a gift
00:04:10.060 --> 00:04:16.279 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: being present to those challenging times, teaches us a huge lesson
00:04:17.610 --> 00:04:22.609 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: that when we are present to the most difficult times in our lives.
00:04:22.940 --> 00:04:29.040 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: It is so much easier than to be present to the wonderful moments in our lives.
00:04:30.840 --> 00:04:35.489 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Presence is not based on whether we feel good or feel bad.
00:04:36.420 --> 00:04:42.039 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: It is a neutral practice that helps us to make the most out of our lives.
00:04:42.470 --> 00:04:51.889 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: no matter how long or how short life is, presence brings us to the place of peace.
00:04:52.470 --> 00:05:04.859 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Even in our darkest moments it is a quiet, powerful place to sit as life swirls around us.
00:05:05.770 --> 00:05:09.490 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: There were so many opportunities in life to feel good
00:05:09.970 --> 00:05:16.420 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: being present to them takes us to a deeper level with each of those moments.
00:05:17.040 --> 00:05:21.349 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: just as it does with all the unpleasant moments as well.
00:05:21.880 --> 00:05:24.500 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: We can't have it both ways.
00:05:25.450 --> 00:05:29.880 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Either we are present to the moments in our life or we are not.
00:05:31.220 --> 00:05:33.000 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: There is no in between.
00:05:33.910 --> 00:05:42.299 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: When we bring ourselves to the decision that we would rather truly be present all the moments in our lives.
00:05:43.030 --> 00:05:48.160 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: That is, the moment we feel more deeply, more fully
00:05:49.220 --> 00:05:51.750 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: what it means to be alive.
00:05:53.850 --> 00:05:57.389 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Is there a place in your life where you can be more present?
00:05:57.920 --> 00:06:01.449 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Can your bring yourself to be more present
00:06:01.480 --> 00:06:05.820 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: to all the bad alongside. All the good ones
00:06:06.800 --> 00:06:12.760 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: really don't like using bad and good, but I feel sometimes it's helpful
00:06:13.740 --> 00:06:16.000 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: to how we perceive things, and
00:06:17.470 --> 00:06:23.069 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: I wrote this blog post more for myself than anybody else.
00:06:25.950 --> 00:06:29.769 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: It's been a struggle over the years
00:06:30.700 --> 00:06:33.599 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: to really get comfortable with being uncomfortable.
00:06:36.140 --> 00:06:47.509 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and it's been a long challenge of mine to really be present to everything like being present to the good stuff. No problem with that.
00:06:48.350 --> 00:06:56.610 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: but being present in the stuff that hurts. That's painful, that's confusing. That's challenging.
00:06:58.310 --> 00:07:05.750 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: That's terrifying those moments. It ain't so easy to be present for me.
00:07:06.650 --> 00:07:08.720 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Maybe some of you can relate to that.
00:07:14.230 --> 00:07:20.169 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Yep, what I've learned over the years through my own personal practice is
00:07:21.500 --> 00:07:25.230 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: in order to truly be more present
00:07:26.420 --> 00:07:31.660 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: to those wonderful feeling times to just feeling glad to be alive.
00:07:31.780 --> 00:07:36.100 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: to feeling the sunshine on your back in a beautiful day, or
00:07:36.130 --> 00:07:40.290 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: or like today, even appreciate the rain when it falls on us
00:07:42.100 --> 00:07:47.940 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: to really be present and feel those moments.
00:07:50.350 --> 00:07:53.770 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: We have to be open to feeling everything.
00:07:55.580 --> 00:08:05.119 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Our nervous system doesn't really know the difference between being open to everything or being open to nothing.
00:08:05.480 --> 00:08:08.679 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: It's kind of the all or nothing.
00:08:09.430 --> 00:08:11.919 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Not that there aren't different levels to it.
00:08:12.910 --> 00:08:15.649 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: But there are different levels to being open
00:08:15.930 --> 00:08:22.700 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: to all the experiences of life, and when we shut down
00:08:23.290 --> 00:08:27.280 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: our connection to our feelings because we've been through trauma
00:08:27.550 --> 00:08:31.009 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and loss and anguish and pain.
00:08:31.880 --> 00:08:35.120 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: We actually don't feel the good stuff as much.
00:08:35.590 --> 00:08:37.909 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: We don't feel the joy as much
00:08:40.230 --> 00:08:44.320 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: when we numb ourselves. We numb ourselves to everything.
00:08:49.830 --> 00:08:51.560 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: So that's the challenge.
00:08:54.050 --> 00:09:01.780 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: If we really want to feel love and joy and excitement and wonder.
00:09:06.810 --> 00:09:09.670 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and we also have to be open
00:09:13.400 --> 00:09:17.050 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: to sorrow, to grief.
00:09:21.010 --> 00:09:21.980 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: to pain.
00:09:28.350 --> 00:09:36.990 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and being open to those feelings, can feel terrifying.
00:09:38.730 --> 00:09:45.379 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: can feel like we're going to drown in those feelings and never find our way out.
00:09:50.240 --> 00:09:57.390 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: I I once had a teacher, Brandon Bays, who said that
00:09:58.560 --> 00:10:02.090 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: there is no emotion so powerful
00:10:03.630 --> 00:10:11.529 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: that if we're not truly present to it for 7 days straight we cannot pass through.
00:10:12.700 --> 00:10:18.380 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And she was talking about, you know, loss of a child loss of a loved one, you know, really
00:10:18.520 --> 00:10:20.679 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: powerful emotions.
00:10:21.840 --> 00:10:29.320 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And when she said, being present to it for 7 days, she didn't mean like, Oh, I'm being present to it a little bit today and a little bit tomorrow. No, she she meant
00:10:29.480 --> 00:10:33.369 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: like, pull down the window shades, unplug the phone
00:10:33.970 --> 00:10:37.260 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: turn, get rid of the TV like, just
00:10:37.390 --> 00:10:42.260 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: don't be present to any distractions anything other than what you're feeling.
00:10:46.500 --> 00:10:53.690 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and I kind of it took me a while to really get it, but then I related to it.
00:10:54.260 --> 00:11:04.009 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: being brought up Jewish like we're we have this tradition that you know. When someone in the immediate family dies, we sit, Shiva, we, we.
00:11:04.050 --> 00:11:09.480 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: we, we cover the mirrors. We don't play music. You're supposed to not sit on anything comfortable.
00:11:09.890 --> 00:11:21.189 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and the idea is to just really be present to the grief for the 7 days. And then at the end of the 7 days, you know. That's it. You remember them once a year, but then you're supposed to move forward. And
00:11:22.160 --> 00:11:24.900 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: so I just I really wonder.
00:11:26.090 --> 00:11:34.189 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And I do believe that when we can really sit and truly be present to something for a week.
00:11:35.360 --> 00:11:37.460 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: we really can get through it.
00:11:38.990 --> 00:11:43.299 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: So while it's tremendously scary to get lost
00:11:43.470 --> 00:11:46.850 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: in some of these truly uncomfortable feelings.
00:11:50.190 --> 00:11:53.930 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: when we can open up to it when we can
00:11:54.260 --> 00:12:03.349 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: find our way through it, whether it's by ourselves, or with the help of a professional, or through whatever practices we use.
00:12:04.520 --> 00:12:16.579 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: What's on the other side getting through those uncomfortable feelings is more space to feel everything.
00:12:18.470 --> 00:12:33.010 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and then, perhaps maybe even just seeing a flower in the park can bring us to moments of exquisite
00:12:33.500 --> 00:12:40.410 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: ecstasy that even the little things can be big.
00:12:43.170 --> 00:12:46.239 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: So that's my blog post.
00:12:46.520 --> 00:12:54.000 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: It's entitled again to increase our joy in life. We merely have to be more present to all of life.
00:12:54.510 --> 00:12:59.540 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and you can always find my blog on theconsciousconsultant.com
00:12:59.650 --> 00:13:10.820 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: as well as on. Of course, the talk radio website@talkradio.nyc slash blog wonderful! Well, now
00:13:10.920 --> 00:13:15.009 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: it is my extreme pleasure to welcome to the show
00:13:15.090 --> 00:13:21.369 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Mr. Marty Katz Marty is the creator of the mindful clarity program.
00:13:21.620 --> 00:13:31.990 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: which is a meditation consulting practice for executive level managers who seek to provide their team and organizations with the best leadership they can offer.
00:13:32.120 --> 00:13:40.770 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: They are managers who seek to develop ideas, strategies, programs, and tactics to generate enhanced productivity and satisfaction.
00:13:41.040 --> 00:13:49.699 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: The basis of the mindful clarity program are the Vedas, an ancient body of work that informs the Buddhist and Hindu traditions.
00:13:49.950 --> 00:13:57.699 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Marty has been a student of meditation for many years, and has studied with teachers steeped in the wisdom of the Far East.
00:13:57.990 --> 00:14:11.589 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Through his studies he has learned a range of meditation techniques, including breathing mental focusing mantras which are contain vibrational frequencies that move us into a meditative state.
00:14:12.250 --> 00:14:20.869 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Marty has worked with executives and large enterprise level organizations to support their efforts in achieving their leadership. Goals
00:14:21.160 --> 00:14:23.649 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: welcome to the conscious consultant hour. Marty.
00:14:24.390 --> 00:14:27.469 Marty Katz: Thank you very much, and thank you for your kind words of introduction.
00:14:27.470 --> 00:14:32.520 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Oh, you're quite welcome. You're quite welcome. It's always a pleasure to bring somebody on
00:14:32.610 --> 00:14:38.950 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: who is both very grounded in sort of the 3D. World, but can also
00:14:38.990 --> 00:14:46.359 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: understands the value of bringing people to a deeper place within themselves.
00:14:47.980 --> 00:15:09.910 Marty Katz: Yes, that's absolutely the idea. I mean, the idea is that we're all involved in our everyday work and our everyday activities. And yet there's another world that exists that can be tapped into with the proper application of effort and focus focus intention to find other things that can be very useful for us as we proceed in our lives, to develop the best
00:15:09.960 --> 00:15:13.140 Marty Katz: form of life for ourselves and those around us.
00:15:13.280 --> 00:15:15.992 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Yeah, yeah, absolutely. Absolutely.
00:15:16.750 --> 00:15:31.150 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: I'm curious. When you were younger. Were you always curious about sort of esoteric subjects and things that were out of the norm? Or was that an interest that developed later in life for you.
00:15:31.950 --> 00:15:51.670 Marty Katz: I would say in my mid twenties, I really just looked around my world, and I said, This can't be all that there is. You know, I had a job I had activities I was involved in. I was dating, but I looked around and said, there has to be something beyond this I had not particularly religious, but somewhat religious upbringing.
00:15:51.670 --> 00:16:03.229 Marty Katz: but it wasn't sufficient for me, and so I began to become curious about what else is there in this world for me to explore, so I can make sense of it so I can get the most out of it. For myself.
00:16:03.230 --> 00:16:12.140 Marty Katz: I wasn't really thinking about anybody else at that time, and then I engaged in a whole series of inquiries into the wisdom of the Far East.
00:16:13.860 --> 00:16:17.349 Marty Katz: And that was the beginning of it. And then it sort of it grew over time.
00:16:17.730 --> 00:16:38.349 Marty Katz: It was all really was about self-development and self growth. How do I grow myself? How do I find best way to be myself, and and look inside of me to see the answers, because the outside, I saw was limited, and I thought on the inside there may be an untapped, untapped well of of data, information, and wisdom that I had.
00:16:39.220 --> 00:16:43.390 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Wonderful, wonderful, excellent! So we're going to take a quick break.
00:16:43.410 --> 00:17:08.509 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and when we come back I would like to talk about just what kind of brought you to the place after sort of your own practice, and seeing things for yourself to decide to bring this to other people like when did. When when did you sort of decide to make that switch? From just being sort of a quote, unquote normal businessman into somebody who teaches meditation? Okay, Marty.
00:17:08.510 --> 00:17:09.339 Marty Katz: We'll do.
00:17:09.490 --> 00:17:27.779 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Awesome, awesome. So everybody, please stay tuned. You're listening to the conscious consultant hour awakening humanity. We do this every Thursday 12 noon to one Pm. Eastern time. Live right here on Talkradio, dot Nyc. And all over social media, and we'll be right back with our guest, Marty Katz, in just a moment.
00:19:43.950 --> 00:19:50.260 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And welcome back to the conscious consultant hour awakening humanity.
00:19:51.530 --> 00:19:56.299 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Marty. So you started studying
00:19:56.770 --> 00:20:01.860 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: philosophies from the Far East just for sort of your own
00:20:02.160 --> 00:20:11.630 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: edification, for your own sense of you know. More enlightenment, I'll say, but
00:20:11.640 --> 00:20:15.029 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: not necessarily spiritual light, but just just for your own sake.
00:20:16.410 --> 00:20:22.260 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: What eventually brought it to the point where you're like, I think I got to share this with other people.
00:20:23.180 --> 00:20:26.270 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Yeah, it was like a good Chinese restaurant, you know.
00:20:27.410 --> 00:20:29.320 Marty Katz: You had to tell people about.
00:20:29.420 --> 00:20:45.459 Marty Katz: You know the the secrets of this Chinese restaurant. So what happened was I? Yes, I initially, I was doing this for myself and my own personal growth. But then I noticed, because in the real world I'm also a marketing consultant. So I have a business marketing, consulting business.
00:20:45.650 --> 00:20:59.389 Marty Katz: and I have lots of contact with people in various industries, and even before I had my own business I worked for the advertising agency business and a host of of marketing and related activities professionally over time.
00:20:59.920 --> 00:21:26.639 Marty Katz: and I noticed that that people were stymied often, and I noticed how frustrated they were in trying to find ways to improve their own productivity and their team's productivity and their company's productivity, and how they could really be better at that so that it would be a real win-win situation, meaning that the management would do well, and the employees would be engaged, and the clients would be would be satisfied.
00:21:26.640 --> 00:21:42.150 Marty Katz: So the more holistic view. And they struggled with this. Many of them were in their heads that figured. I have to think about this. I have to think about this. And I knew from my own work that there's a limitation that's related to mental activities, that there's something that's way beyond that
00:21:42.270 --> 00:21:49.900 Marty Katz: if you really focus on the internal, which is really about how you feel about things, how we in the heart center, you would say, and
00:21:50.480 --> 00:21:56.380 Marty Katz: terms of the way they just look at things. There's these centers, energy centers called chakras.
00:21:56.410 --> 00:22:21.390 Marty Katz: and the heart center is the place to start. Not because it's not about romance and hallmark cards and flowers and candy and champagne. Those are fun. But this is really about what's really true for me, and if you focus on that. Out of that can come a lot of the answers that people look for in their own work, and to provide satisfaction for themselves and those whom they serve.
00:22:23.220 --> 00:22:24.440 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Right? Right?
00:22:26.300 --> 00:22:36.700 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: so how long now has it been since you've been actually offering meditation and showing people how how to engage in this.
00:22:37.190 --> 00:23:05.770 Marty Katz: Well, I've been doing this informally for at least 6 years. I say informally, because I was able to do this with people who I knew professionally, and provide them with a whole series of things that they could do to enhance their lives, and so they can achieve their own goals. Many of them were looking for a particular goal, a professional goal, and I was able to provide that to them I noticed that as the practices that I recommended meditation, journaling.
00:23:05.770 --> 00:23:17.329 Marty Katz: breathing techniques and a host of others. I noticed that that they were actually getting results. So about a couple of years ago, maybe 3 years ago, I decided, I think I'm going to go professional with this.
00:23:17.330 --> 00:23:40.600 Marty Katz: And so I do train people in how to get going so they can actually enhance their lives in this way to achieve their goals and using these techniques. It's like a practice like anything else. How do you get to Carnegie hall practice practice practice. You really have to do this. So those people that really take it seriously, they can really find ways, in a very practical sense
00:23:40.940 --> 00:23:52.559 Marty Katz: to to get what they're looking for. It's not just the theory. It's not just people sort of feeling good about themselves without being tethered. This is an absolute, tethered to reality. Approach that I use.
00:23:52.580 --> 00:23:53.240 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: To.
00:23:54.820 --> 00:23:58.399 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: I'm curious over the years that you've been doing this yourself.
00:23:58.560 --> 00:24:03.880 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: What have you noticed? Different in your own life like? How has
00:24:03.910 --> 00:24:10.380 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: these practices really supported you, to make shifts and changes in your own life.
00:24:11.160 --> 00:24:35.980 Marty Katz: Well in a number of different ways. Firstly, I was able to really get a much better result in the professional sphere in which I operated, I was able to actually achieve my goals and achieve my dreams. In addition, I was able to serve others, and it's important for me to serve others to provide them with is is sharing a principle for me, so that I can use this
00:24:36.060 --> 00:24:59.999 Marty Katz: in a holistic way. I didn't want it to only be about myself. But I noticed, as I shared more of this, the more goodies I got, so the more that I was willing to share what I've learned, and what I found to be to be successful and productive, and others would would do the same thing. The more productive I was in terms of relationships, family friends, business associates and business results.
00:25:00.450 --> 00:25:11.140 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Hmm, hmm, you know I've meditated and known about meditation for for decades.
00:25:11.530 --> 00:25:25.040 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: but when I 1st got involved with it it was very much on the fringe. People weren't talking about it. If you mentioned it to somebody. They think you're a little cuckoo, especially in the business world. That kind of stuff was real taboo.
00:25:25.610 --> 00:25:32.720 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Have you noticed, like a real shift in people's openness to hearing about it over the years.
00:25:32.720 --> 00:25:52.650 Marty Katz: Yeah, there's there's no question. Major corporations have wellness practices that for themselves, internally for their own teams as well as as serving their clients. This, you see, this very stand very typically in management, consulting firms where they, as a regular thing, will offer a wellness.
00:25:52.650 --> 00:26:17.490 Marty Katz: consulting to their clients the reason they would do that is because these, the clients of these management consulting firms, they're looking to do this internally. They don't have a way to do this, and they're looking to achieve a certain level of mindfulness within their team members so they can have greater camaraderie. They can have greater innovation, productivity, satisfaction, joy, and satisfaction in their
00:26:17.490 --> 00:26:27.919 Marty Katz: in their work environment, because these are important principles that are emerging. And so there's no real playbook for how to do this out of Harvard Business School. They just.
00:26:27.950 --> 00:26:52.260 Marty Katz: It's not the way it works. Those are analytical tools. And these are tools in a different way. So, and these tools are very effective. So certainly I've noticed this happen. And even companies that are not in the service of others, like management, consulting firms regularly have have wellness activities and programs and events that generate these kinds of outcomes because it's not seen. Yes, I understand that
00:26:52.360 --> 00:27:07.750 Marty Katz: many people had in the past saw this as fringe, but it's becoming much, much more mainstream. I mean, there's the whole industry of wellness and mindfulness, and it's a separate industry. And it's not about psychology, although there's certain elements that would relate to psychology.
00:27:07.750 --> 00:27:23.459 Marty Katz: But it's really its own, its own animal. And so it's being recognized increasingly by standard middle of the road businesses and industries. This is something that's very useful, because it actually enhances the company's bottom line.
00:27:25.570 --> 00:27:36.019 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: I know that the 1st sort of industry where I heard the they started implementing wellness programs and meditation practices and stuff was in technology.
00:27:36.220 --> 00:27:46.060 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: that technology companies in general, they're a little more progressive. They're a little more forward thinking. But I'm just wondering after technology.
00:27:46.140 --> 00:27:51.769 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: where did you see it kind of get into more easily, because I'm sure there are certain industries
00:27:51.920 --> 00:28:02.230 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: like I don't know, maybe military, that are very old school, and and not quite as open to it as certain others. But I'm just wondering after technology. Where did it go from? There.
00:28:02.430 --> 00:28:10.160 Marty Katz: Went to a number of different industry sectors. I think the real issue is the profile of the people
00:28:10.350 --> 00:28:34.300 Marty Katz: who work for those. For those industries, for instance, where you have industries of many young people, such as tech. For sure, those are people that tend to be more open minded because they're early in their lives, and they really want to explore more things. I would say. The industries that I've seen that are more open are the media industry and communication industry. Like like my work in advertising. Speaking very broadly, communications.
00:28:34.300 --> 00:28:58.369 Marty Katz: Industries are industry. Sectors are more interested because they have to find ways to connect increasingly with their target audience. And one of the ways to do that does not come out of the intellectual analysis of data. But more about how do we use our emotional intelligence to connect with our audience, and meditation is a very key piece to engage in those practices, so you can produce that result.
00:28:59.040 --> 00:29:03.639 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Right. Gotcha gotcha, alright wonderful.
00:29:05.000 --> 00:29:09.559 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: So once you decided to sort of
00:29:09.600 --> 00:29:18.929 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: help other people. With this practice, you eventually created this program the mindful clarity program. How long did it take you to really
00:29:19.380 --> 00:29:26.020 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: come up with sort of this program itself? The idea behind it. And what's involved with it.
00:29:26.020 --> 00:29:40.629 Marty Katz: It. It took years. It took many, many years. It took a lot of trial and error, because, you know, I made this up as I went along. Like I said, there's no playbook for this. You can't. You can't just look somewhere, and and, you know, use AI to find find this.
00:29:41.010 --> 00:30:04.479 Marty Katz: So it took me because I had a particular vision of this. And you talk about industries. There are many industries that typically even today rebuff this meditation, and so to answer your question about about you know who? For whom is this most likely to be interesting? I had to take a look at who's open to this, and then really formulate what I would do.
00:30:04.790 --> 00:30:14.750 Marty Katz: Ultimately I I looked at the many years of meditation practices about meditation which is mantra based, and and the
00:30:14.750 --> 00:30:39.680 Marty Katz: the practices that I were taught, and I took from everything that I had learned from a number of different teachers and spiritual paths and philosophical approaches, and I really made my own distillation. It took years and years and years until I say, this is the essence of the essence. For me. This is the truest of the true. So I distilled all of this, and I make it very simple, and then I have a particular set of steps people go
00:30:39.680 --> 00:30:50.290 Marty Katz: through, but it took forever to actually find something that I felt would be most useful for people and engage them so they can produce the results they want in their lives.
00:30:50.290 --> 00:30:52.506 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Wonderful, wonderful gotcha gotcha.
00:30:53.170 --> 00:30:57.419 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Okay, I got more questions around that. But we got to take our next break.
00:30:57.540 --> 00:31:04.190 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: So when we come back, I just want to talk a little bit about you know, kind of
00:31:04.230 --> 00:31:11.779 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: what maybe some of those essences are. And then maybe you can give us some examples of people who you've worked with, and sort of
00:31:12.230 --> 00:31:16.360 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: how implementing these practices took them from one place to another place.
00:31:17.070 --> 00:31:17.900 Marty Katz: Will do.
00:31:17.900 --> 00:31:32.890 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Excellent. So everyone, please stay tuned. You're listening to the conscious, consultant hour awakening humanity, my guest, this hour is Marty Katz, creator of the mindful clarity program, and we'll be right back in just a moment.
00:33:41.490 --> 00:33:43.700 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: So. Marty, you mentioned
00:33:44.030 --> 00:34:00.019 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: before that that you kind of distill down sort of the essence of the practices that you found most effective. Because I know there's there's transcendental meditation. There's Vipassana, there's there's many, many different forms of meditation. So
00:34:00.620 --> 00:34:11.110 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: when you've distilled it down like what are the essential elements that you feel are necessary for just even a basic practice, or just someone
00:34:11.190 --> 00:34:13.579 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: wanting to dip their toe in the water.
00:34:14.040 --> 00:34:21.379 Marty Katz: Right? That's a great question. So the the way to start really is with focus meditation of a short period of time
00:34:21.500 --> 00:34:24.099 Marty Katz: could be 5 min could be 10 min.
00:34:24.280 --> 00:34:29.870 Marty Katz: And what you do is there's a certain breathing technique that you have to learn, which is very simple.
00:34:30.550 --> 00:34:50.409 Marty Katz: which engages the body in a change of consciousness through this simple breathing technique. And then there's a repetition of the mantra, which is a silent repetition, and I should say that you know the the market has a lot of these apps that guide meditation, and those are terrific. They are really very good.
00:34:50.639 --> 00:34:57.700 Marty Katz: however, the but I found is the limitation of those is that you can't go any further than what's presented to you the voice and
00:34:58.560 --> 00:35:00.170 Marty Katz: activities.
00:35:00.340 --> 00:35:19.770 Marty Katz: So mine is a silent meditation because there isn't, it's limitless, because there is. No, there's no, there's nothing beyond you anything that you do, and it's it's unlimited. So you use it so that the answer your question, the simplest thing to do would be to learn a mantra that I provide, which is a public mantra.
00:35:19.800 --> 00:35:24.739 Marty Katz: and then to engage in this, in the breathing activity, which is also very simple.
00:35:24.850 --> 00:35:37.859 Marty Katz: they will enable you to step into the state of meditation, and then do it for 5 min, do it for 10 min, and then take a pause and then see what happens into within you, and with your physical space.
00:35:37.860 --> 00:36:07.420 Marty Katz: with your mental space, your emotional space, and any thoughts or ideas that come your way afterwards. It's really about excluding the mind and the ego, because the ego and the mind wants to prevent you from from doing anything other than what it wants. But you need to find a way or the opportunities for you to find a way for you to manage your ego mind as opposed to your ego. Mind telling you this is no good. This won't work, nothing works, you know. You're a loser. All these thoughts, self-limiting thoughts
00:36:07.420 --> 00:36:26.700 Marty Katz: that we divest ourselves from self-limiting thoughts to thoughts that are open and complete, and in terms of the possibility to be present. You talk about being present to being present in the possibility of what's available to you. And it happens through those kinds of simple techniques to get started.
00:36:27.060 --> 00:36:30.589 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Yeah, yeah, it seems to me today that
00:36:31.130 --> 00:36:39.600 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: we're more distracted than ever before with our phones and technology. And and people expect you to always be there and responsive.
00:36:40.150 --> 00:36:45.570 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Is it more difficult for people just to sit and be still than it used to be?
00:36:45.890 --> 00:36:49.910 Marty Katz: There's no question about that, because we are inundated with
00:36:49.920 --> 00:37:17.029 Marty Katz: messages, information, misinformation, disinformation, all those things, entertainment, pseudo entertainment. We're loose with all of these these distractions. So we need to piece ourselves out of this, and to find a way through this to thread a needle, to get through all of this, and it's it's difficult. I mean, you sit for meditation can be a challenge.
00:37:17.090 --> 00:37:38.620 Marty Katz: So so yes, it is. It's difficult to do this. There's no question about this, but once you say you're going to set your mind to doing it. Say, despite all this, the environment that's so cluttered. I'm not going to be cluttered. I'm going to be. I'm going to be true to myself, and I'm going to take the long view as opposed to the short view which is the clutter that we all face.
00:37:38.990 --> 00:37:40.649 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah.
00:37:40.870 --> 00:37:46.520 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: So I'm I'm curious. If you can maybe give us an example. I mean, you don't. You don't have to reveal any
00:37:46.640 --> 00:37:50.430 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: personal information, but just an example, maybe, of somebody
00:37:50.470 --> 00:38:01.040 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: who came to you, who was having some challenges and and how going through the program actually helped them, and and and got them to a better place.
00:38:01.470 --> 00:38:12.139 Marty Katz: Sure. Well, I can, definitely. Obviously, I can't let you know any particular information about their name and so forth. But I I work with a fellow a couple of years ago, and
00:38:12.310 --> 00:38:16.040 Marty Katz: he had a business that he was looking to sell.
00:38:16.210 --> 00:38:20.710 Marty Katz: and it was a pretty substantial business.
00:38:20.760 --> 00:38:27.729 Marty Katz: and I work with him with these things with meditation and journaling, which is a very key piece.
00:38:27.860 --> 00:38:51.059 Marty Katz: Journaling is. It's not a diary. A diary is kind of a capturing of information and journal. A meditation journal is about creating in present time your goal. So it's it's a way to access what you need, so that you can manifest or create in your life what your goal is stated in present tense terms.
00:38:51.240 --> 00:39:03.440 Marty Katz: And so I work with him through journaling and meditation. We met regularly to to go through this. And there's some meditative techniques about breathing that I discussed earlier. Some of them are rather esoteric.
00:39:03.550 --> 00:39:13.229 Marty Katz: So he was able, as a result, to absolutely manifest his dreams exactly the way he wanted them to be.
00:39:14.030 --> 00:39:18.589 Marty Katz: And so that was a really a really good example of how this worked.
00:39:18.800 --> 00:39:20.890 Marty Katz: That was a real business sense.
00:39:20.900 --> 00:39:21.540 Marty Katz: It wasn't
00:39:21.540 --> 00:39:40.600 Marty Katz: another person I work with who wanted to manifest a different relationship than he had. We used the similar content techniques, and he manifested what he was looking for in a relationship. So this is sort of a movable feast that could work for business. It could all work for family, it could work for relationships could work for community.
00:39:40.760 --> 00:39:55.069 Marty Katz: So so your goals are your goals. And it's just really about being very clear about them, and applying your own inner energies to to their creation, which you can do with these techniques.
00:39:56.220 --> 00:39:57.510 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Are there sort of
00:39:57.630 --> 00:40:11.369 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: ancillary outcomes that happen like somebody coming to you. And yeah, it may be a very business oriented goal, but once they start the practice, it actually helps to shift other things in their life. Other aspects.
00:40:11.370 --> 00:40:39.289 Marty Katz: Absolutely. What I would say is, the main thing that occurs after I work with them is they want more, and they say this is great, and they will say, Now I'm really engaged in this, and they go off on their own and explore their own approach to meditation and conscious awareness and Yoga and the pursuit of esoteric knowledge from the Far East. It charges them up to do that, to engage in other activities and practices
00:40:39.290 --> 00:41:03.930 Marty Katz: that go way beyond what I offer. I'm just sort of like the step in for a lot of people that's perfect for me. So I would say, the ancillary goals are. They explore on their own, and they engage in practices that I don't offer. Many of them go into significant Yoga practices, others move into martial arts. There's all kinds of things that happen as a result of the work, and and they find that they get even more satisfaction from that.
00:41:03.930 --> 00:41:11.750 Marty Katz: And they're able to handle issues that come up to be present in the way that you just discussed in many areas of their lives.
00:41:12.100 --> 00:41:13.350 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Yeah, yeah.
00:41:13.500 --> 00:41:23.149 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: do you ever get people when you, when you talk about this, who are concerned about it, affecting their religious beliefs or or just their beliefs in general.
00:41:23.740 --> 00:41:53.409 Marty Katz: Yeah, that comes up very briefly, because what I do has nothing to do with any religious beliefs or dogma, it's separate from that. You can be as religious or non religious as you wish. This is really independent of that. It doesn't come up very often, because by the time people get to me. They know just by knowing about this work in general absent me, but I understand that meditation is not weighing against a religious belief or practice so, but occasionally I get a question, you know. Can I continue with my religious.
00:41:53.420 --> 00:41:57.940 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Practice, I said, yes, these are completely separate checks, separate checks, and.
00:41:57.940 --> 00:42:05.119 Marty Katz: These are not the same, so certainly one can continue being as religious or not religious as you wish.
00:42:05.380 --> 00:42:07.670 Marty Katz: And this is this is an adjunct.
00:42:07.730 --> 00:42:29.880 Marty Katz: So this is a way to to find different things within yourself, that your religion may not touch on exactly or in this particular way, because religions also have spiritual aspects as well, but many people find they can't really access that in the way that they find to be satisfying. So they look at the wisdom of the Far East as a tool to access
00:42:30.660 --> 00:42:32.129 Marty Katz: key, to open up that door.
00:42:34.600 --> 00:42:46.069 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Is there anything that's really surprised you over the years around the meditation practice and around sort of this path you've taken? Is is it like, you know, something that really.
00:42:46.130 --> 00:42:53.050 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: you know, you figured, yeah, that that makes sense. Or was there anything that happened that was really like, wow! Where did that come from?
00:42:53.050 --> 00:42:54.909 Marty Katz: Yeah, I wish I would have done it sooner.
00:42:54.910 --> 00:42:55.875 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Yeah.
00:42:56.840 --> 00:43:00.870 Marty Katz: And the people I work with, they say, why didn't I meet you earlier?
00:43:00.870 --> 00:43:01.610 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Yeah.
00:43:01.610 --> 00:43:08.710 Marty Katz: And why is this so easy, you know, and I can't sit. I'm too jumpy. I can't sit. I've heard that.
00:43:08.890 --> 00:43:09.400 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: My son.
00:43:09.400 --> 00:43:14.359 Marty Katz: That's just the point. I'm so full of energy. I said, Yeah, that's just the point.
00:43:14.500 --> 00:43:38.339 Marty Katz: So I would say that that the thing that surprised me is how quickly it works for people and how they like me, said I. I wish I discovered this years ago, so I guess that's what surprised me that it took me this long to get to this, to get to this point in my own life and my own, my practice and my own business. So I finally get to this. So I wish I'd have this many, many years earlier.
00:43:39.560 --> 00:43:53.799 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: So I mean, would you say your your business is more successful because of these practices? Or is it more? Your relationship to your business has shifted. So maybe the the success isn't the point anymore.
00:43:54.020 --> 00:44:00.990 Marty Katz: Well, I would say, it's both, you know, if you approach your business, because it's you are passionate about it.
00:44:01.050 --> 00:44:05.380 Marty Katz: That's really the key piece that we're talking about business only right now.
00:44:05.650 --> 00:44:12.190 Marty Katz: if we're passionate, which means that we are devoted to this because it brings us joy.
00:44:12.310 --> 00:44:18.160 Marty Katz: And if and and I'm like you're like, I spoke to someone recently. She herself is a management consultant.
00:44:18.180 --> 00:44:19.190 Marty Katz: and
00:44:19.440 --> 00:44:35.509 Marty Katz: and she was not noticing where her passion was, and she was really kind of frustrated with the business result that she was producing because they were not what she wanted. And if you focus on what the passion is that you provide. If you focus on that, the business results will follow.
00:44:35.830 --> 00:45:05.439 Marty Katz: A lot of people think, well, I'm only going to engage in a particular business a meditative practice if it attaches to an outcome. But you know you can't really engineer the world to produce the result that you want. You can engineer yourself to be what you want, and focus on your passion and and using your passion, and then the results will play out, and the world will then follow you. But you can't say I have to get this result focus on you, and then the results will follow.
00:45:05.850 --> 00:45:08.579 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Yeah, yeah, absolutely absolutely
00:45:09.140 --> 00:45:25.099 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: wonderful, Marty. It's time to take our last break of the show when we come back. I want to just ask you a few questions around sort of today's environment, and where we are now, because there is a certain
00:45:25.480 --> 00:45:26.860 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: atmosphere
00:45:26.880 --> 00:45:34.719 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: lately that can be challenging for certain people to to deal with. So maybe you can give us some tips on on what can be helpful with that. Okay.
00:45:34.720 --> 00:45:35.910 Marty Katz: Absolutely.
00:45:36.080 --> 00:45:54.659 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Wonderful wonderful. So everyone, please stay tuned. You're listening to the conscious consultant hour awakening humanity again. We do this every Thursday 12 noon to one Pm. Eastern time right here on talkradio dot Nyc. And we'll be right back with our guest, Marty Katz, to finish it all up and tie it up for you.
00:48:02.680 --> 00:48:04.250 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And welcome back.
00:48:05.426 --> 00:48:08.013 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: So, so, so, Marty.
00:48:09.290 --> 00:48:15.899 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: you know, regardless of sort of which side you were on when it came to this election.
00:48:16.641 --> 00:48:19.230 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: The the election has sort of
00:48:20.970 --> 00:48:23.490 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: thrown a lot of people off center
00:48:24.090 --> 00:48:26.229 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: in in one way or another.
00:48:27.000 --> 00:48:31.879 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and I personally know many people who are just not feeling good.
00:48:32.453 --> 00:48:37.659 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And I'm wondering, what can your practice do to offer to people
00:48:38.640 --> 00:48:41.930 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: when they're in such a state of dysregulation?
00:48:43.220 --> 00:48:48.395 Marty Katz: Well, for sure, I know exactly what you're talking about, because I'm 1 of those people. So
00:48:49.175 --> 00:48:56.460 Marty Katz: so I'm not exempt from this. This is an equal opportunity, depression for people so.
00:48:56.460 --> 00:48:57.070 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Oh, yeah.
00:48:57.070 --> 00:49:10.310 Marty Katz: So. But having said all that, so firstly, the thing to do is, is, I see this is for us all to just grab a hold of ourselves and say, What can I get out of this?
00:49:10.350 --> 00:49:12.180 Marty Katz: How can this benefit me?
00:49:12.420 --> 00:49:15.100 Marty Katz: Because you can easily fall into
00:49:15.430 --> 00:49:29.710 Marty Katz: being a victim and feeling like everything is lost. But I think the thing to do is to say, this is something that is here, and it's now, and it's not going away. What can I do to get from this? What's best for me?
00:49:30.000 --> 00:49:35.379 Marty Katz: Because people are concerned about themselves, and they're concerned about their families and their children.
00:49:35.420 --> 00:49:48.640 Marty Katz: So what can we get out of this that could possibly benefit us? And to take the foot off the gas of this is all horrible, because that's that can. That's a very easy thing to be seduced into that, or or to be just.
00:49:48.680 --> 00:50:01.319 Marty Katz: you know, just lulled into apathy. And so, rather than that, yeah. And and with my practice is is to use a focused meditation focused intention
00:50:01.610 --> 00:50:07.399 Marty Katz: on finding ways to make all of this work, because logically, it's not going to make sense
00:50:08.310 --> 00:50:11.450 Marty Katz: genetic level. It absolutely could work
00:50:12.110 --> 00:50:26.370 Marty Katz: for ourselves. And to say, I'm doing this for myself. And I'm using my own energies to create an environment for myself and my business and my family, my friends, wherever you want to define your world, to make it work because it can.
00:50:26.410 --> 00:50:46.750 Marty Katz: because because, again. Like I said earlier meditation is a movable feast, and so we can move it to where we want to. And right now we need to move it into. How do I? How do I manage this and not manage it? From the point of view of you know about just feeling this, that they were all at the effect of in a negative way what happened in the election?
00:50:47.040 --> 00:51:04.209 Marty Katz: Clearly the American people have decided about a particular path they want for themselves. So the idea is, how can we use our own practices and our own energies to get the most that we can for ourselves? Not in a selfish way, but in a way that really serves us and others around us.
00:51:04.840 --> 00:51:08.400 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it. It's.
00:51:09.060 --> 00:51:17.610 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: you know, interesting. We, we tend to the mind will tend to latch on to sometimes these big huge
00:51:17.620 --> 00:51:18.950 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: issues
00:51:19.460 --> 00:51:31.200 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: that may or may not affect us personally, but we don't really look at. Well, what what does this mean for my day-to-day life? What does it mean for for me today, tomorrow?
00:51:31.290 --> 00:51:32.730 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And and
00:51:32.750 --> 00:51:43.080 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: again that idea of presence and look. If we're upset, we're upset right. If the nervous system is feeling scared. We're scared, and if we give the space to that.
00:51:43.120 --> 00:51:49.640 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and we hold that tenderly, then we can move through that to a place of greater empowerment.
00:51:50.120 --> 00:52:18.839 Marty Katz: Yes, that's true, and also to take a rather. You can also take a Yang approach. You know, about Yin and Yang Yin is receptive. And Yang is forward moving. That's sort of basically what it means. So we can take a Yang approach, even though it feels like you just have to be just, totally Recessive, and just let everything to happen to us. But we can also take an assertive, forward moving stance about this and say, You know this. This is not what I wanted. I'm getting what I want. Period.
00:52:18.850 --> 00:52:36.449 Marty Katz: not maybe because of or in spite of. But I'm using what's available to me right now. I don't know what's going to happen, but I'm using my own facilities, my own energetic output to achieve what I want, and you can do it in a very assertive way. And I think that's what's available to us if we so choose.
00:52:37.100 --> 00:52:41.039 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Yeah, exactly. Exactly. Again, it's it's sort of
00:52:41.270 --> 00:52:44.490 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: being focused on the solution and not on the problem.
00:52:45.240 --> 00:52:58.850 Marty Katz: It's correct, it's correct. It's really focusing on your outcome that you want to achieve. And then the most important thing like you just said earlier is to take the steps and to let go of the result.
00:52:58.850 --> 00:53:17.049 Marty Katz: Take the actions, take actions all the time. What is my business like? Am I doing okay in my business? Do I have to do different things in my business? What about my team? Do I need to hire different people whatever steps you need to take. So focus on the steps and also the inner work.
00:53:17.050 --> 00:53:23.970 Marty Katz: and and that's required, and then the results will show up as they, as they show up, we cannot predict or manage them.
00:53:24.080 --> 00:53:43.420 Marty Katz: so is to use all of these same practices for an outcome that makes us absent from the typical kind of landslide that we think that we're facing. It's just we, we we make our own outcome. We make our own result based on our own input.
00:53:44.870 --> 00:53:45.570 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Yeah.
00:53:45.780 --> 00:53:46.969 Marty Katz: That's the main thing.
00:53:49.730 --> 00:53:58.179 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: I remember I was traveling recently, and I forget which airport it was. It was one of the local New York area airports.
00:53:58.760 --> 00:54:02.919 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and I went to use the bathroom, and it was down this long hallway.
00:54:03.380 --> 00:54:09.550 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and then on the way to the bathroom there was a door, and on the door. It said, meditation room.
00:54:10.710 --> 00:54:17.989 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: So there was actually a little meditation room in the airport that if you wanted to go and sit and meditate before your flight, you can go and do that.
00:54:19.450 --> 00:54:28.279 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Is that going to be the future? Do you think? Do you think we're going to find more, as as now the companies want people to come back to the office to work from the office.
00:54:28.510 --> 00:54:34.870 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: are there going to? Is is having a meditation room in your corporate office going to be more of a common practice.
00:54:35.100 --> 00:54:42.309 Marty Katz: It's that it's absolutely a thing right now. It's not even not going to. It is I? I work in a We work office in midtown, Manhattan.
00:54:42.550 --> 00:54:45.950 Marty Katz: and this is my 3, rd because the other one's closed.
00:54:46.620 --> 00:54:54.280 Marty Katz: So every one of them had a meditation room, and I meditate in my own meditation room, I would say at least 3 times a week.
00:54:55.580 --> 00:54:59.580 Marty Katz: and you know it's it's not the most. It's not the.
00:54:59.610 --> 00:55:06.289 Marty Katz: It's not an ashram. It's not a meditation center, but but it does the job. So I would say, yes.
00:55:06.360 --> 00:55:33.420 Marty Katz: People in corporate America are recognizing it. They're building it in as one way. Yes, to bring people back to to the office to encourage them to stay in the office and encourage them to be happier in their office. The meditation is not, is such a strange anomaly as it may have been many years ago. It's really becoming mainstream and accepted and and also pursued by people. I mean, I have to stand in line for this meditation center
00:55:33.830 --> 00:55:38.400 Marty Katz: in this office you have to reserve. You have to reserve the room because, wow!
00:55:38.400 --> 00:55:54.640 Marty Katz: How to use it. So it is absolutely here to stay, because meditation is really recognized for its own intrinsic value, and the results that it produces. So people are encouraged by management to please use the meditation room whenever you want.
00:55:56.390 --> 00:56:00.570 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: So one last question, if somebody
00:56:00.800 --> 00:56:06.830 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: is cure hasn't done meditation that they they listening to us and they want to
00:56:06.880 --> 00:56:11.140 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: kind of start, dip their toe in the water. What would you recommend for them?
00:56:11.170 --> 00:56:17.340 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Or if somebody listening already has a meditation practice, and they want to take it deeper. What would you recommend for them.
00:56:17.460 --> 00:56:34.669 Marty Katz: Well, if they'd like to work with me, I mean, I'm very happy to to, you know, to work with people, and I would say, even even absent me. What they need to do is just is to use the practices which are available, and then you can get them online. You can get them through friends and just take these practices and take them seriously.
00:56:35.050 --> 00:56:48.569 Marty Katz: So that would be the way to go if somebody wants to contact me. So I'm Marty Katz. It's getmindfulclarity.com get mindfulclarity.com. That's how you. That's my website. You can contact me through that.
00:56:48.670 --> 00:57:01.349 Marty Katz: And I'd be happy to talk to you. I just give you a free session, just so you can know what it is that I do. I'm very happy to do so. And if if not me, the world is your oyster, except for vegans.
00:57:02.790 --> 00:57:13.569 Marty Katz: Find what works with you, and and settle in and and stick with it, and just practice practice practice. That's why they call the meditation practice. That's where that word comes from.
00:57:13.570 --> 00:57:24.869 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Yeah, wonderful, Marty, wonderful. Well, thank you so much. I really appreciate you. I appreciate what you do in the world, and and thank you for taking the time out of your schedule to come on my show today.
00:57:24.870 --> 00:57:29.650 Marty Katz: Thank you, Sam, very much for the opportunity for me to speak to people. Thank I appreciate it. Thank you.
00:57:29.650 --> 00:57:48.870 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: You're quite welcome. You're quite welcome, and of course, thank you, my loyal listeners, for tuning in every week. Without you there is no show. So I really appreciate all of you. If you have any comments, questions, please put them in the comment section. We'll get back to you. And of course next.
00:57:48.890 --> 00:57:53.119 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Later. Today we have Frank Harrison in his show, Frank about health.
00:57:53.240 --> 00:58:12.320 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and tomorrow morning at 10 Am. Tommy Demisa and his show philanthropy and focus, and next week we still have shows beginning of the week on Tuesday and Wednesday. And hey, did you catch my episode on Dr. Linda's show? A train to Sedona last week. It's a good episode. Go check it out.
00:58:12.610 --> 00:58:17.159 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Thank you all for tuning in. We will talk to you all next week.
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