EPISODE SUMMARY:
This week, on The Conscious Consultant Hour, Sam is pleased to welcome Emmy-Winning Interviewer, Producer & Podcast Host, Cali Alpert.
Cali is a three-time Emmy-winning interviewer, producer and podcast host who has created long and short form programming and content for multiple networks (NBC, Discovery, E!, Sony, Fox), platforms (Facebook, youtube, Dodo, E! Online, Spotify) TV hosts (Jane Pauley, Meredith Vieira, Dr. Oz) and brands (Crest, Mohonk Mountain House, Olay).
Her deep listening and adept question-asking skills have garnered her a reputation for heartstring storytelling and intimate conversations from which listeners can gain wisdom, access their own vulnerability, laugh and cry.
Cali’s subjects range from Sheryl Crow to Richard Branson, Deepak Chopra to Halle Berry, Xiye Bastida to Dwight Howard, war vets to agoraphobics and everyday heroes to incarcerated mothers.
Her passion for and knowledge of psychology, spirituality and the personal growth space blend to create soulful storytelling across the board.
Tune in and share your questions and comments about your spiritual experiences on our YouTube livestream or on our Facebook page.
https://www.theinnerviewer.net
00:00:43.600 --> 00:01:03.720 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Good afternoon, my conscious co-creators. Good morning. Good evening. Wherever you're tuning in from welcome to the conscious consultant hour awakening humanity. I am very, very pleased that you are all here with me today. We've got another wonderful show in store for you, with
00:01:03.720 --> 00:01:13.870 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: a dear old friend and former host on talkradio dot Nyc. Oh, and, by the way, did you happen to catch the a train to Sedona yesterday?
00:01:13.870 --> 00:01:41.999 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Because Linda interviewed yours truly on her show this week. So if you want to get a double dose of your conscious consultant this week, catch the A train to Sedona replay on our Youtube channel@youtube.com slash talk radio. Nyc, all right, let's get going. I'm really looking forward to bringing my guest on today. So let me get to my blog post.
00:01:42.000 --> 00:01:46.740 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: which is actually pretty interesting one for today. It's entitled.
00:01:47.220 --> 00:01:51.060 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: We can make the impossible possible
00:01:52.090 --> 00:01:56.069 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: when we hold open the space for it to happen.
00:01:57.420 --> 00:02:01.870 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: There are things in life that we feel will never happen.
00:02:02.120 --> 00:02:06.679 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: We feel like they are impossible because we can't see a way
00:02:07.030 --> 00:02:11.989 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: trying to figure out a way to make it happen seems pointless.
00:02:12.570 --> 00:02:14.139 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: We give up hope
00:02:14.690 --> 00:02:16.120 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and doubt. We will
00:02:16.250 --> 00:02:17.860 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: ever see it happen.
00:02:18.760 --> 00:02:20.530 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And so we are right.
00:02:20.990 --> 00:02:22.230 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: without hope
00:02:22.450 --> 00:02:23.879 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and without trust.
00:02:24.210 --> 00:02:26.150 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: We make it impossible
00:02:27.060 --> 00:02:31.210 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: because we can't see a way for it to happen. We don't even try
00:02:32.230 --> 00:02:36.619 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: to hold a space, for the possibility is beyond us.
00:02:37.300 --> 00:02:42.929 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: So without that space there is no room for life to make it happen.
00:02:44.760 --> 00:02:51.329 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: for we did not allow for the possibility, however remote, that it could actually happen.
00:02:51.800 --> 00:02:55.300 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Our doubt can protect us from harm.
00:02:55.920 --> 00:02:59.429 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and it often keeps us from our dreams.
00:03:00.470 --> 00:03:07.109 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Yet when we learn to hold open the possibility that the incredibly unlikely event
00:03:07.400 --> 00:03:08.820 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: can happen.
00:03:08.960 --> 00:03:10.609 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: We give it space.
00:03:11.110 --> 00:03:16.260 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: More importantly, we allow ourselves to take a chance
00:03:16.400 --> 00:03:19.720 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and actually try to make it happen.
00:03:20.250 --> 00:03:25.190 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And that little bit of room is more than enough
00:03:25.360 --> 00:03:30.420 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: for life to wiggle into existence that dream of ours.
00:03:31.210 --> 00:03:35.270 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: We can make the apparently impossible
00:03:35.710 --> 00:03:36.810 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: possible.
00:03:37.930 --> 00:03:44.250 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: but only if we hold open in our hearts the chance that it will actually happen.
00:03:45.350 --> 00:03:47.069 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Of course it might not.
00:03:47.840 --> 00:03:50.840 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and that is something we need to be able to live with.
00:03:51.540 --> 00:03:56.020 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: for holding open the possibility without attachment to the result
00:03:56.570 --> 00:03:58.079 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: is hard indeed.
00:03:59.650 --> 00:04:04.249 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Things may show up in a different way than we expect.
00:04:04.940 --> 00:04:10.780 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: They may look differently, or the timing may be completely different than our desire.
00:04:11.640 --> 00:04:17.609 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Holding open the possibility with a light grip is so important.
00:04:18.600 --> 00:04:21.340 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: for miracles do happen
00:04:22.120 --> 00:04:28.959 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: every day somewhere out there, something impossible, just manifested.
00:04:30.120 --> 00:04:32.299 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: that can happen for us as well
00:04:33.110 --> 00:04:34.730 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: it might not.
00:04:35.140 --> 00:04:37.590 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: but it definitely won't
00:04:37.840 --> 00:04:40.070 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: if we don't believe it could.
00:04:40.990 --> 00:04:44.760 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: for when we are so certain that it won't happen.
00:04:45.090 --> 00:04:46.930 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: we won't even try.
00:04:48.070 --> 00:04:50.729 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: We don't hold space for it
00:04:51.110 --> 00:04:54.749 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and close ourselves off from the possibility.
00:04:55.510 --> 00:05:01.280 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: So we must learn that no matter how unlikely something is to happen.
00:05:01.750 --> 00:05:03.730 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: it can still happen.
00:05:04.470 --> 00:05:06.799 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: If we want it badly enough.
00:05:07.070 --> 00:05:11.999 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: we will hold onto that possibility, no matter how remote.
00:05:12.630 --> 00:05:17.390 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and in that space of believing something is possible.
00:05:17.690 --> 00:05:21.190 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: we can actually bring it into being.
00:05:21.950 --> 00:05:26.619 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Is there something in your own life that feels impossible
00:05:26.710 --> 00:05:30.070 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: that you can hold open to the possibility
00:05:30.090 --> 00:05:31.700 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: that it will happen.
00:05:32.740 --> 00:05:39.275 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: So I really, I really have to give kudos to my wife for this one because she really
00:05:40.500 --> 00:05:48.530 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: catches me. He's 1 of the few people who can actually catch me when I'm not being open, when I'm not being
00:05:48.780 --> 00:05:52.539 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: in my heart when I'm not being connected to spirit.
00:05:55.270 --> 00:06:04.610 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and you know our minds are very tricky creatures. Our minds are so good at proving to us why something won't happen.
00:06:08.400 --> 00:06:09.890 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and the thing is
00:06:10.770 --> 00:06:16.360 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: what we often forget, and what's always been a big lesson for me personally
00:06:19.670 --> 00:06:21.860 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: is that the wise don't matter.
00:06:23.980 --> 00:06:26.039 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: It's really about the how.
00:06:26.210 --> 00:06:28.519 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: how could it potentially come about?
00:06:28.900 --> 00:06:29.920 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: How
00:06:30.730 --> 00:06:31.730 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: could we
00:06:32.050 --> 00:06:37.969 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: somehow could life bring to us this seemingly impossible thing?
00:06:41.290 --> 00:06:45.739 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And so, when she catches me, and she says, Oh, we can make the impossible possible
00:06:47.760 --> 00:06:50.119 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: just by giving it space.
00:06:50.400 --> 00:06:59.110 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: just by being open to the possibility that maybe somehow, some small chance it could happen.
00:07:01.220 --> 00:07:05.309 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: actually giving room to life to bring it to us.
00:07:06.370 --> 00:07:13.879 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: But when we cut ourselves off from that possibility, when we say No, there's no way we don't even look. We don't pay attention.
00:07:14.160 --> 00:07:15.050 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and that
00:07:15.830 --> 00:07:20.040 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: happenstance meeting goes by and we don't give it a second thought.
00:07:20.750 --> 00:07:26.430 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: whereas if we held open the possibility we might have realized in that happenstance, meaning that
00:07:26.620 --> 00:07:31.420 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: oh, you know, maybe this person might be the key to something happening.
00:07:31.630 --> 00:07:37.149 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And then we put spend a little more time, we be a little more open. We we
00:07:37.620 --> 00:07:40.540 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: check into it, and you just never know.
00:07:42.770 --> 00:07:50.109 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Now, look, I'm I'm not talking about the possibility of winning Lotto, although, of course, that's always possible.
00:07:51.650 --> 00:07:53.860 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: But I'm talking about.
00:07:54.650 --> 00:07:56.820 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: you know, meeting that
00:07:57.230 --> 00:08:05.109 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: that that life partner, or or having an opportunity to do something with your dream.
00:08:06.120 --> 00:08:09.590 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: you know, ever since I was a kid I always wanted to
00:08:09.770 --> 00:08:24.760 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: do something in the space industry. But you know back then. The only way to get into it. You had to be an astronaut, but if you had glasses you didn't have 2020 vision. You can get into it. You had to go through the military and be an Air Force pilot, you know. Now, none of those things are true anymore.
00:08:25.980 --> 00:08:31.150 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: But I didn't hold open the possibility that there might be other ways to get involved. And then.
00:08:31.600 --> 00:08:38.630 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: you know, when, when the web 1st launched and and I connected with a friend, and we created this
00:08:38.669 --> 00:08:43.259 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: business to serve aerospace companies online.
00:08:44.120 --> 00:08:49.790 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: I found myself working in the aerospace, and I had a business in the aerospace industry.
00:08:50.490 --> 00:08:55.850 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and I worked at that for for close to 7 years until the shuttle Columbia blew up.
00:08:59.600 --> 00:09:05.859 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: But it just goes to show that, like our dreams can show up in ways we don't expect.
00:09:06.360 --> 00:09:13.619 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: It may not look like what we thought. It should exactly look like. It may not happen exactly when we think it'll happen.
00:09:16.800 --> 00:09:18.360 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: But that's not the point.
00:09:19.270 --> 00:09:24.419 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: The point is, even if we can touch something close to it. Isn't that worth it?
00:09:27.870 --> 00:09:28.730 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: II.
00:09:29.030 --> 00:09:34.470 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: It's so funny because I took a couple of acting classes back when I was in college.
00:09:34.930 --> 00:09:39.899 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and and I never really took it seriously. I never thought I'd be in film or anything.
00:09:40.980 --> 00:09:46.230 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: But I met a lot of people who were like they wanted to be a star. They wanted to be in front of the camera.
00:09:47.650 --> 00:09:54.840 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And then, years later, I bumped into one of them. And I'm like, What are you doing? Oh, I'm working on production. I'm doing this. I'm doing that I'm having a great time.
00:09:56.510 --> 00:10:01.970 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And so their dream came true. It's just they weren't in front of the camera. They were behind the camera.
00:10:02.630 --> 00:10:05.730 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And to me. That was such a great
00:10:06.390 --> 00:10:08.250 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: symbology
00:10:09.710 --> 00:10:20.950 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: that sometimes our ego and we come up with a dream, and our ego hijacks it, and it's like we have to be the one in front of the camera. We have to be one leading the charge we have to be.
00:10:22.190 --> 00:10:26.279 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And the truth is, we just want to be involved in it in somehow.
00:10:26.730 --> 00:10:35.529 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and that truly what life brings us it might not be being in front of the camera, but it might be involved with being behind the camera in some fashion.
00:10:38.860 --> 00:10:43.669 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and we find out that you know what we actually enjoy being behind the camera.
00:10:46.670 --> 00:10:51.060 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: So there are many many different ways
00:10:51.300 --> 00:10:55.389 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: in which life can bring us the quote unquote, impossible.
00:10:57.630 --> 00:11:00.619 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: But in order to accept
00:11:00.680 --> 00:11:06.100 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: something that doesn't quite look like it, but actually is very aligned with our dream.
00:11:07.130 --> 00:11:10.890 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: That's why we have to hold open the space, the possibility
00:11:11.060 --> 00:11:13.980 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: that maybe somehow, some way
00:11:14.380 --> 00:11:17.489 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: the impossible can happen for us.
00:11:17.540 --> 00:11:20.180 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: because it can happen for anyone
00:11:24.100 --> 00:11:27.660 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: you know we we there's this expression, I forget who
00:11:27.940 --> 00:11:29.980 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: 1st heard it in a movie somewhere
00:11:30.420 --> 00:11:32.000 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: that miracles
00:11:32.930 --> 00:11:36.970 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: happen. They are just extremely, extremely improbable.
00:11:39.610 --> 00:11:43.220 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: But miracles do happen every day.
00:11:44.380 --> 00:11:57.120 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: If you do a search online looking for you know what miracles happen today, you could probably find people saying, Oh, this was a miracle. My cancer went into remission. I found my long lost.
00:11:57.180 --> 00:12:01.029 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: you know, child or parent, this, that.
00:12:02.320 --> 00:12:08.599 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Now look, this is not to say, there are not lots of horrors in the world, and tragedies and things to be sad about.
00:12:09.290 --> 00:12:16.409 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Life is full of everything. But that's the point. It's full of everything.
00:12:16.800 --> 00:12:23.770 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and we do not have the perspective. We do not have all the information. We do not have the ability to see
00:12:23.930 --> 00:12:28.560 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: whether something truly truly is impossible or not.
00:12:30.640 --> 00:12:34.770 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: So while it might seem impossible today.
00:12:35.440 --> 00:12:39.620 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: if we hold open the possibility that somehow
00:12:39.720 --> 00:12:41.049 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: it could happen.
00:12:41.840 --> 00:12:42.930 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: never know
00:12:43.080 --> 00:12:46.159 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: just never know what tomorrow might bring.
00:12:46.630 --> 00:12:49.379 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: The future is completely unknown.
00:12:50.110 --> 00:12:54.479 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: So why not hold open the possibility that a miracle can happen.
00:12:57.450 --> 00:12:59.810 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and it can happen, for anyone
00:13:00.070 --> 00:13:05.709 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: does not matter. Your situation does not matter what you've done in the past.
00:13:07.680 --> 00:13:09.290 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: It can happen for
00:13:09.380 --> 00:13:10.470 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: anyone.
00:13:11.470 --> 00:13:12.340 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: So
00:13:12.920 --> 00:13:15.420 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: that's my blog post for this week.
00:13:15.770 --> 00:13:21.010 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: It's entitled, We can make the impossible possible when we hold open the space for it to happen.
00:13:21.660 --> 00:13:28.190 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Of course you can always find my blog, my blog posts at theconscious consultant.com.
00:13:28.200 --> 00:13:34.169 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And on the Talkradio dot Nyc. website@talkradio.nyc
00:13:34.500 --> 00:13:35.820 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: slash blog.
00:13:36.770 --> 00:13:42.320 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: All right. Now it is my extreme pleasure to welcome to the show.
00:13:42.380 --> 00:13:47.649 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: emmy-winning interviewer, producer and fellow podcast, host, Callie Alpert.
00:13:48.020 --> 00:14:01.770 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Callie is a three-time Emmy winning interviewer, producer and podcast, host who's created long and short form programming and content for multiple networks, including Nbc. Discovery, E. Sony Fox.
00:14:02.020 --> 00:14:05.929 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: All kinds of social media platforms, Facebook, Youtube.
00:14:06.240 --> 00:14:08.259 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: E. Online spotify.
00:14:08.800 --> 00:14:14.850 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And for many famous TV hosts like Jane, Pauley, Meredith.
00:14:15.070 --> 00:14:22.070 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Viria, and Dr. Oz, and such brands as Crest, the Mohonk Mountain House, and Olay.
00:14:22.300 --> 00:14:37.720 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: her deep listening and adept question-asking skills have garnered her, a reputation for heartstring, storytelling, and intimate conversations from which listeners can gain wisdom, access their own vulnerability, laugh and cry
00:14:38.190 --> 00:14:44.789 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: cali subjects range from Sheryl Crow, to Richard Branson, Deepak, Chopra, to Halle, Berry.
00:14:44.950 --> 00:14:58.140 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Shee, Bastita, to Dwight Howard. War vets to agoraphobics and everyday heroes to incarcerated mothers, welcome to the conscious consult rally.
00:14:58.290 --> 00:15:02.680 Cali A.: Oh, Sam, thank you so much. It's so good to be back with you.
00:15:02.680 --> 00:15:06.869 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Yeah, same here, same here. It's been a little while since we.
00:15:06.870 --> 00:15:07.550 Cali A.: Yes.
00:15:07.550 --> 00:15:08.150 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: In.
00:15:09.320 --> 00:15:25.689 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: But for our audience, who might not know about your former show on the network which we still have some old episodes of the Robin Callie show. Maybe we'll give them a little brief background of you before we go to our 1st break.
00:15:25.860 --> 00:15:43.299 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: like you know. How did you get into the I guess you would say the entertainment industry or production industry like, is this something you always wanted to do since you were a little kid? Did you pretend to be like Johnny Carson late at night? Or is this something that just developed later in life?
00:15:44.120 --> 00:15:57.000 Cali A.: No, it actually did start very, very early on. I was about 5 years old, and I was interviewing my Teddy bears in my bedroom in New Jersey, where I was growing up, and studying Barbara Walters.
00:15:57.000 --> 00:15:58.100 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Oh!
00:15:58.100 --> 00:16:05.249 Cali A.: So it's fascinating when you think back, after many decades of being on this planet, of how certain things are laid out for you
00:16:06.230 --> 00:16:16.019 Cali A.: way, whether it's you know your fate or your unconscious sort of knowing ahead of time. But yeah, I was an early bloomer in terms of being clear about
00:16:16.070 --> 00:16:17.749 Cali A.: finding my way into
00:16:18.100 --> 00:16:20.439 Cali A.: this. You know this industry. I was.
00:16:20.440 --> 00:16:24.070 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And I'm sure those Teddy bears had some very wise things to tell you.
00:16:24.070 --> 00:16:29.409 Cali A.: They did, and they probably still hold a bunch of secrets somewhere, God knows where they are now.
00:16:29.410 --> 00:16:38.489 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Okay, wonderful, wonderful. Okay, let's take a quick break. And when we come back, let's talk about
00:16:38.990 --> 00:16:53.670 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: what's your own particular angle that you like to use when you're interviewing people like when you're creating content. You know, what is it that you really love to focus on? And how is that related to
00:16:53.720 --> 00:16:57.099 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: just what you feel. Your mission in life is okay.
00:16:57.470 --> 00:16:58.359 Cali A.: Sounds, great.
00:16:58.600 --> 00:17:15.860 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Wonderful. So everyone, please stay tuned. You're listening to the conscious consultant hour awakening humanity. We do this every Thursday 12 noon to one Pm, Eastern time right here on Talkradio, Dot, Nyc. And all over social media on Youtube and Facebook and Twitter and Linkedin
00:17:16.050 --> 00:17:22.059 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and Twitch, and we will be right back with our guest, Callie Appart. In just a moment.
00:19:38.250 --> 00:19:54.310 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And welcome back to the conscious, consultant hour awakening humanity. So, Callie. So from a relatively young age, you kind of knew, like you were into this whole interviewing, asking deep questions, things like that.
00:19:54.310 --> 00:19:55.560 Cali A.: I did.
00:19:56.480 --> 00:20:02.450 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: What kind of drives you? What! What are you looking to? Kind of bring out in the conversations that you have.
00:20:05.845 --> 00:20:06.910 Cali A.: Wow!
00:20:07.190 --> 00:20:09.630 Cali A.: It's changed over the years.
00:20:11.820 --> 00:20:37.510 Cali A.: It's a really interesting question to start out of the gate. I would say that early on, because when earlier in my career, when I was asking questions of people. They were mostly celebrities, musicians. I was working on a lot of entertainment programming, and often there was an agenda that was sort of dictated by the network or the show that I was working on that was pretty strictly promotional.
00:20:38.180 --> 00:20:43.569 Cali A.: Because they were marketing a movie or a new album, or whatever it may have been.
00:20:43.820 --> 00:21:10.120 Cali A.: And what I would do separately is sneak in my own questions for my own edification. That would never be used in the final product. Because that's what I was more interested in was Number One giving them something refreshingly different when they were doing loads of interviews and being asked the same questions. I wanted to kind of just inspire them. I also wanted to have a little bit of a connection with a deeper part of them, I would say that was the most important priority for me.
00:21:10.120 --> 00:21:10.630 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: What's it?
00:21:10.630 --> 00:21:22.199 Cali A.: Really getting to the nuts and bolts of people's souls in whatever way and capacity I could do that. So that's probably a bottom line answer is that I like to know how people tick, and
00:21:23.030 --> 00:21:49.899 Cali A.: I like to hear wise people share their wisdom and their experiences, and I probably most importantly, always want to hold a space for people's vulnerability and to give them a safe place to share emotions or deeper thoughts. You know, we're not a society that's very inclined to do that, or at least over the last. You know, 30, 40 years of my career coming up. That wasn't top priority, as you well know.
00:21:49.900 --> 00:21:50.550 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Yeah.
00:21:50.550 --> 00:21:53.819 Cali A.: Kind of an aberration to go deep. It still scares people a lot right.
00:21:53.820 --> 00:21:54.310 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: So.
00:21:54.310 --> 00:22:03.140 Cali A.: That's exactly what I always wanted to do, whether I was doing it with a microphone or a camera, or just with my friends, you know, hanging out over tea, or whatever.
00:22:03.380 --> 00:22:04.140 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Yeah.
00:22:04.710 --> 00:22:08.619 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: cool. So you you got to interview some pretty well known people, didn't you?
00:22:08.620 --> 00:22:20.290 Cali A.: I did. I did. Yeah. For many years I had the pleasure of interviewing a lot of my heroes, I would say, probably especially the rock stars, because I'm.
00:22:20.290 --> 00:22:20.800 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: In the middle.
00:22:20.800 --> 00:22:22.109 Cali A.: Or chick at heart.
00:22:22.690 --> 00:22:40.807 Cali A.: and and they're all great artists, whether they were actors or writers, or performers, or poets, you know, over the years again. This was a long time ago. This was in the earlier pieces parts of my career when I was really cutting my teeth. But yes, I did, and I do have some some standout stories, and
00:22:41.120 --> 00:22:42.530 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Yeah, so I just wanna to.
00:22:42.530 --> 00:22:43.500 Cali A.: Memories.
00:22:43.710 --> 00:23:00.389 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Just the biggest one like. Who did you interview that that really you were so so looking forward to the interview? And just that really surprised you like you learned something about them that made you really go? Wow! I never would have thought of that.
00:23:00.390 --> 00:23:01.480 Cali A.: Hmm!
00:23:01.770 --> 00:23:03.562 Cali A.: I would say.
00:23:04.170 --> 00:23:05.529 Cali A.: David Bowie.
00:23:06.080 --> 00:23:07.220 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Oh!
00:23:07.220 --> 00:23:36.660 Cali A.: Who was way more. I'm not saying I was wildly surprised, but I was. It was way more expansive than I would have expected in terms of his intelligence, artistry, and when I say artistry, I don't mean him as a music maker. That was a given, but we did his interview in an art gallery in Los Angeles, and his knowledge of art and books and poetry and life, and he was just even more dynamic than you would have expected. You know.
00:23:36.660 --> 00:23:37.170 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Wow! That was.
00:23:37.170 --> 00:23:42.580 Cali A.: Really beautiful memory. And then, conversely, there were plenty of people where it wasn't so
00:23:42.920 --> 00:23:55.860 Cali A.: riveting, or where you may have loved their art. And there's a reason that they pour all of their their passion and their wisdom into what they create. Because when you meet them in person, that's not their
00:23:55.900 --> 00:23:59.040 Cali A.: primary, you know, comfort, level, or outlet, and and then.
00:23:59.040 --> 00:23:59.510 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Instead of.
00:23:59.510 --> 00:24:01.540 Cali A.: Were frankly a little disappointing, right?
00:24:01.540 --> 00:24:02.280 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: No.
00:24:02.625 --> 00:24:11.599 Cali A.: But yeah, it was a very interesting chapter of my life, and I definitely have some stories that and memories that I'm really grateful for.
00:24:11.600 --> 00:24:13.270 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: I bet I bet.
00:24:14.153 --> 00:24:15.640 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: What's been
00:24:15.860 --> 00:24:24.309 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: the most sort of challenging part over the years for yourself personally like what? When you look back over. It
00:24:24.960 --> 00:24:29.850 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: was really that the challenge that maybe you ended up growing a lot from.
00:24:29.850 --> 00:24:37.760 Cali A.: Challenge in in terms of as an interviewer and question asker, or just in my career overall.
00:24:37.760 --> 00:24:41.550 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Just just in you overall as a person.
00:24:41.550 --> 00:24:42.940 Cali A.: Hmm!
00:24:43.480 --> 00:24:44.510 Cali A.: Wow!
00:24:46.570 --> 00:24:47.850 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: You said you like deep conversation.
00:24:47.850 --> 00:24:52.649 Cali A.: I do. You know I do. And also it's my. It's way easier for me to be the one asking the questions and.
00:24:52.650 --> 00:24:53.250 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Sing them as.
00:24:53.250 --> 00:24:56.539 Cali A.: Much as which. By the way, I'm going to digress for just a second.
00:24:56.540 --> 00:24:57.170 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Sure.
00:24:57.170 --> 00:25:22.669 Cali A.: The dynamic of growing into feeling like I had something to share and a story to share versus facilitating. Other stories really started. When I did. The Robin Callie Show and Rob and I were doing a half hour show, and we were pretty committed to just interviewing people. And then he suggested. We expand an hour, and was pretty insistent that he and I in and of ourselves, had enough interesting things to say.
00:25:22.670 --> 00:25:30.830 Cali A.: and it was a huge growing moment for me, because I never thought I had a lot more to ask about than I did to share. So here we are, many years later
00:25:30.830 --> 00:25:35.975 Cali A.: I've grown into that in a comfortable way. And so I just I wanted to share that. I don't know if you knew that
00:25:36.190 --> 00:25:37.189 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: No, I didn't.
00:25:37.190 --> 00:26:00.209 Cali A.: Yeah, but it kind of speaks to for all of your listeners to the idea of stepping into your power in a different kind of way when you are living in any kind of a dynamic, whether it's in your life, personally or professionally, when you're in a certain role or label, as we'd say, and then you realize, once you start to find your own voice and find your own power and your own value.
00:26:00.240 --> 00:26:08.710 Cali A.: that you might have a lot more to offer than you realized. You did. So it was just, you know, it's really it's a it's an important lesson back to your question.
00:26:10.970 --> 00:26:12.030 Cali A.: wow!
00:26:12.447 --> 00:26:16.890 Cali A.: Such an important question! There's so many answers. The one that comes to mind
00:26:17.230 --> 00:26:20.260 Cali A.: would be about being in alignment with myself.
00:26:20.570 --> 00:26:21.730 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Hmm.
00:26:21.750 --> 00:26:27.030 Cali A.: And whether that was in relationship, in romantic relationships, friendships, or work.
00:26:28.160 --> 00:26:34.049 Cali A.: And I've spent a lot of time being out of alignment with myself, and not even knowing it.
00:26:34.050 --> 00:26:34.880 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Yeah.
00:26:35.230 --> 00:26:40.579 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: yeah, that's the thing, right? We we can be out of. We don't always give it so much thought. So.
00:26:40.580 --> 00:26:41.200 Cali A.: And we can.
00:26:41.200 --> 00:26:49.990 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Drift out of alignment little by little, by little, or a lot, and we don't even realize until one day we wake up and go! Oh, my God! What am I doing?
00:26:49.990 --> 00:26:57.070 Cali A.: Yeah. And then you kind of have to do a lot of retroactive work to catch up with yourself.
00:26:57.090 --> 00:27:00.665 Cali A.: as as she says, fresh out of therapy an hour ago.
00:27:01.040 --> 00:27:01.570 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: That's.
00:27:01.570 --> 00:27:03.747 Cali A.: I'm bringing that with me today in your honor.
00:27:03.990 --> 00:27:04.630 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Gotcha.
00:27:05.790 --> 00:27:16.840 Cali A.: But how do I expound on that? To be helpful to people, and kind of just share a little bit more? I feel like. Perhaps when I grew up there were a lot of shoulds. I think we
00:27:17.510 --> 00:27:19.030 Cali A.: levels of shoulds.
00:27:19.030 --> 00:27:19.800 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Absolutely.
00:27:20.187 --> 00:27:26.769 Cali A.: You know whether it was because of my being raised by a mentally ill mother who
00:27:27.455 --> 00:27:36.500 Cali A.: sort of ruled the roost, and the family kind of homeostasis of the family. So everything was not about me or my sister. It was about her.
00:27:38.150 --> 00:27:57.549 Cali A.: to my dad as a depression era baby, and what that meant in terms of money and scarcity, and putting food on the table, and not pursuing things like your bliss and your spiritual joy and your alignment. Those were not words used, you know, in our household. It was really more about
00:27:58.432 --> 00:28:00.630 Cali A.: just surviving and
00:28:01.460 --> 00:28:16.609 Cali A.: supporting family and creating strong relation. You know all the things that are important that we all care about. But it wasn't about like soul searching and finding yourself and all these things that you and I love and have the luxury of being able to do as we've, you know, gotten into our own lives.
00:28:16.860 --> 00:28:21.479 Cali A.: So with that, I would say those were sort of precursors. I didn't know at the time
00:28:21.910 --> 00:28:33.250 Cali A.: for doing a lot of things that I didn't even know what alignment with myself meant. And so whether I was in relationships where I was complicit in
00:28:35.140 --> 00:28:58.839 Cali A.: kind of like people men that weren't there for partnership, or to, you know, to live in a place of sharing, but where it was more about a self-centered sort of dynamic, I reenacted that one a lot in my younger years, or being in jobs where it was really great on paper, because the title was great and the money was great, and I was climbing up the ranks.
00:28:58.840 --> 00:29:09.949 Cali A.: But I also wasn't doing using my artistry and my heart and soul, because I was too busy surviving in a structure that was kind of cutthroat and didn't really jibe with who I was.
00:29:09.950 --> 00:29:10.420 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Yeah.
00:29:10.420 --> 00:29:12.161 Cali A.: But getting lost in that
00:29:13.090 --> 00:29:21.529 Cali A.: And and yeah, so a lot of those things continued in different ways for many, many years. And I think it's important to when you, when you find that place where
00:29:22.100 --> 00:29:35.479 Cali A.: often it's because of a crisis, or many or a series, things crack open, whether it's death, or you lose a relationship, or you get laid off, or whatever it is. Those house of cards come kind of flying down.
00:29:35.570 --> 00:29:36.040 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Right.
00:29:36.040 --> 00:29:42.409 Cali A.: And that's where you you know where you can awake and kind of get everything stripped away.
00:29:42.450 --> 00:30:03.539 Cali A.: You become a little bit more raw, and then you realize how far away you drifted from yourself. So I'm encapsulating a lifetime of what you know you and I understand into a quick answer or 2, but I would say, that's probably one of the bigger lessons that I've had to learn over the years. And then what a beautiful thing! When you finally find your way back to yourself.
00:30:03.540 --> 00:30:16.849 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Yes, yes, absolutely, absolutely. And and you're kind of touching upon what was going to be my next topic. We're going to go to, which is sort of finding your path and our spirituality. One of the.
00:30:16.850 --> 00:30:17.270 Cali A.: Things, ever.
00:30:17.270 --> 00:30:24.100 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Have very much in common, and why we've we get along so well together is we have this common
00:30:24.160 --> 00:30:25.880 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: love for
00:30:26.580 --> 00:30:30.990 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: understanding the nature of the universe in a very deep way.
00:30:30.990 --> 00:30:31.530 Cali A.: Hmm,
00:30:32.070 --> 00:30:34.369 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: 1st we have to take our next break.
00:30:34.520 --> 00:30:38.709 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: so we'll we'll start on that path
00:30:38.810 --> 00:30:40.759 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: when we return. Okay.
00:30:41.290 --> 00:30:41.840 Cali A.: Perfect.
00:30:42.390 --> 00:30:49.119 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: All right. So everyone, please stay tuned. You're listening to the conscious consultant hour awakening humanity.
00:30:49.340 --> 00:30:54.270 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: We'll be right back with my guest, Callie Alpert in just a moment.
00:33:02.260 --> 00:33:06.710 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: So Callie. One of the things that we have in common is
00:33:07.000 --> 00:33:30.319 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: kind of having a somewhat spiritual path in life when everyone has path is spiritual in some way or another, but for us it's a very conscious pursuit. So I'm wondering if maybe you can share for the audience sort of how that came about for you. Is it something that you had for a long time, or something more recent? And what was the impact that it's had on you in your life.
00:33:30.320 --> 00:33:32.190 Cali A.: Hmm, wow, Sam.
00:33:32.650 --> 00:33:36.840 Cali A.: These questions are so beautiful and profound and
00:33:37.090 --> 00:33:39.509 Cali A.: deliciously challenging to answer. So.
00:33:39.510 --> 00:33:40.880 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Thank you.
00:33:41.274 --> 00:33:49.560 Cali A.: Well, let's see. When I I always had a sense of something higher than myself when I was a kid.
00:33:49.990 --> 00:34:15.899 Cali A.: I pictured some version of a god figure up in the sky almost with pushing buttons, or a monkey grinder, or something that was like making all of us little puppets on Earth kind of do our thing and move around and function on this planet without any much of an understanding other than that. But I always felt like there was something that was larger that was overseeing us, or shall I say in control, even though it's
00:34:15.949 --> 00:34:18.069 Cali A.: not the, you know, not the best word but
00:34:19.620 --> 00:34:25.337 Cali A.: And then, when I was in my, you know, and I probably grew up, I would say my mom definitely had
00:34:25.780 --> 00:34:31.989 Cali A.: a paranormal appreciation. So why, that might not be exactly the same thing it had to do with
00:34:32.389 --> 00:34:51.559 Cali A.: you know, just energies that go beyond our senses and things that we can't see. And so, you know, in the seventies she was going to spoon bending classes and Tm. Meditation weekends, and taunting us by not telling us what her mantra was, and all these kinds of things. I was sort of influenced a little bit. You know that way
00:34:51.699 --> 00:34:57.739 Cali A.: when I graduated from college somehow. That's when it started to kick in.
00:34:57.810 --> 00:35:04.309 Cali A.: And I got really curious. And it's fascinating how once you become curious and clear about something that you want. It's sort of.
00:35:04.800 --> 00:35:13.010 Cali A.: Speaks to a little bit of what you were saying earlier with your blog post reading about making space for things.
00:35:13.850 --> 00:35:40.309 Cali A.: I my curiosity became larger. I remember I got really into crystals. I don't remember why, probably because the boyfriend that I had when I graduated college was very into carrying crystals around in his pocket, and somehow that like woke something up in me. But it's interesting how you find your way to the people in the situations without knowing why, at the moment right? And they do open up these huge portals of of
00:35:40.350 --> 00:35:41.850 Cali A.: ads in our lives.
00:35:41.950 --> 00:35:58.890 Cali A.: So I think I was curious. I started reading books. You know. I would go to those metaphysical bookstores and do what they said. Well, wait, and some book will fall off the shelf for you, and you'll know which one you're supposed to read. And it was true, right figuratively falling off the shelf, at least.
00:35:59.260 --> 00:36:00.100 Cali A.: And
00:36:02.210 --> 00:36:12.519 Cali A.: I would say, then I really got more into my therapeutic path, because for me my therapeutic and spiritual path have been very coexistent. Now for the last, like 3 to 4 decades.
00:36:12.520 --> 00:36:13.170 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Okay.
00:36:13.170 --> 00:36:23.170 Cali A.: I actually think that they need that. It's a smart thing when you're on a spiritual path, that the other one, you know, you can't really have one without the other, because you have to make space
00:36:23.520 --> 00:36:26.920 Cali A.: for the for the spiritual piece to to come in.
00:36:29.770 --> 00:36:39.760 Cali A.: and I think, yeah, I just started to really get more curious and start reading more books and and movies. It really wasn't until
00:36:39.780 --> 00:36:50.569 Cali A.: I met my most formative teacher. And this is only this is less than 10 years ago. I'm now just into my 60, th my year 61
00:36:51.605 --> 00:36:52.410 Cali A.: So
00:36:52.540 --> 00:37:00.559 Cali A.: in my mid fifties that I met my very formative, important teacher, psychotherapist, and spiritual teacher.
00:37:00.820 --> 00:37:01.675 Cali A.: who,
00:37:03.280 --> 00:37:08.119 Cali A.: reminded me of what hard work the spiritual path is.
00:37:08.120 --> 00:37:08.940 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Yeah.
00:37:08.940 --> 00:37:12.410 Cali A.: And that it's 1 thing to
00:37:12.550 --> 00:37:17.730 Cali A.: learn about it and have a curiosity and read the books. But it's another to really start
00:37:17.900 --> 00:37:35.989 Cali A.: making a commitment to yourself, and gutting yourself out, and having a sense of vigilance and commitment to a practice that you really graduate to another level of of devotion and commitment to becoming spiritual, whatever that means to people. These words are so overused these days.
00:37:35.990 --> 00:37:36.840 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Yeah.
00:37:36.840 --> 00:37:41.370 Cali A.: So it's hard for me to to pinpoint it to a particular.
00:37:42.010 --> 00:37:46.000 Cali A.: You know. I mean, there's definitely when you go through just the ride of your life, whether.
00:37:46.000 --> 00:37:46.370 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: It's great!
00:37:46.370 --> 00:37:52.079 Cali A.: Just all kinds of crises that happen, and lots of challenges for many years, whether it's.
00:37:52.090 --> 00:37:55.800 Cali A.: you know, again, big spates in
00:37:56.080 --> 00:38:23.500 Cali A.: my work, life. Lots of money, scarcity, lots of singleness, lots of difficulty with my parents as they aged lots of misalignment in a lot of areas. The death of a boyfriend, you know. I mean, we all have our different experiences that we go through who was young when he died from a mental break and psychotic episode. So all of these different things
00:38:23.710 --> 00:38:29.660 Cali A.: depending on who you are, if you you can either lean into them and learn and feel through them.
00:38:29.660 --> 00:38:30.130 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Right.
00:38:30.130 --> 00:38:31.000 Cali A.: Or not.
00:38:31.370 --> 00:38:31.860 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Right.
00:38:31.860 --> 00:38:35.130 Cali A.: And that's a very conscious choice. And so I chose. The former.
00:38:35.523 --> 00:38:38.000 Cali A.: Most often is not pretty, not easy.
00:38:38.000 --> 00:38:38.860 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Yes. But yeah.
00:38:38.860 --> 00:38:48.079 Cali A.: But I was very, very devoted to doing that, because I wanted to learn from everything, and I do believe that we all write a script in a divine place
00:38:48.670 --> 00:39:04.130 Cali A.: predisposes everything that happens to us, so I never believe that things just sort of happen. I believe that some part of my higher soul wrote every single thing that I've experienced, because this time around in this particular lifetime, I'm here to
00:39:04.190 --> 00:39:06.470 Cali A.: continue those levels of learning.
00:39:06.470 --> 00:39:07.270 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Right, right.
00:39:07.270 --> 00:39:32.210 Cali A.: And that I've always known intellectually, but I didn't embody it. So it wasn't until I started working with the teacher. I just kind of flipping around here just to get a little bit more meat on the bones about my thirties and forties. But it wasn't until I started working with this teacher, and he said to me, You know you have to really choose. You have to want. It might have been a Rumi quote or something. You have to want the spiritual path as much as a drowning man wants air.
00:39:33.110 --> 00:39:53.609 Cali A.: and I remember him saying this to me very early on in our knowing each other, and I thought, Well, who the hell would want to do that? That doesn't sound like fun, and I certainly am not going to sign up for it. And then I realized that I was signing up for it. And I've been that's been my. It's been my number one priority ever since, in a really conscious way, choosing it as as many moments of the day as I can remember
00:39:53.610 --> 00:40:05.439 Cali A.: devoting myself to as much of a daily practice as I'm willing to commit to every day, and and making my relationship with my knowledge of God, my number one priority over every.
00:40:05.440 --> 00:40:06.570 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Anything else.
00:40:07.060 --> 00:40:19.580 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and and that causes its own challenges with things like just making a living and career, as we as you talked about before being misaligned right. There are a lot of things in the world
00:40:19.720 --> 00:40:26.539 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: that can push us to be misaligned. But when we're consciously choosing like no, I want to be in alignment with what's
00:40:26.680 --> 00:40:29.619 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: truly speaks to my heart and my soul
00:40:30.310 --> 00:40:33.420 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: that can cause its own unique challenges, doesn't it.
00:40:33.700 --> 00:40:48.419 Cali A.: It does. You know a lot of people will say that to be on a spiritual path is a privilege, or you have to have a lot of money in the bank, so you can sit cross-legged on the mountain all day long, you know, I mean, but the truth is and this again was, you know I've learned this is that
00:40:48.440 --> 00:40:50.979 Cali A.: every moment is your learning.
00:40:51.620 --> 00:41:07.269 Cali A.: Right. So it's not they're not mutually exclusive. And it doesn't mean that it's for people of privilege. It means that you're choosing to lean into every moment, every challenge, every joy, every heartache, every moment of the day, to the whatever degree any human can do that right.
00:41:07.270 --> 00:41:07.675 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Right
00:41:08.080 --> 00:41:15.460 Cali A.: But it's using. So when people say, What's the meaning of life? Meaning of life is life itself, it's showing up for exactly what is happening.
00:41:15.710 --> 00:41:19.719 Cali A.: And so yes, that can can. That can certainly create
00:41:19.830 --> 00:41:28.199 Cali A.: some challenges or duality. But inside of that is exactly what we're talking about. It's try to find your way to.
00:41:28.540 --> 00:41:37.129 Cali A.: How do I make money and prioritize? You know it's it's the integration piece. I'm not sure I have the the magic sauce yet for that, or I'd offer it freely.
00:41:37.270 --> 00:41:38.700 Cali A.: right? Integrate.
00:41:38.700 --> 00:41:50.269 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Is absolutely people know. I talk about it on my show quite a bit. I'm curious as the years have gone on, and maybe in the most recent, you know. Last few years
00:41:51.320 --> 00:42:00.689 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: has it been more challenging, less challenging? Has it been something that the holding of the spiritual path, the importance of it?
00:42:00.870 --> 00:42:01.849 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Has it?
00:42:02.140 --> 00:42:03.220 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Has it
00:42:03.310 --> 00:42:07.749 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: eased in some way, or is it as challenging today as it was years ago?
00:42:08.800 --> 00:42:37.830 Cali A.: It's definitely eased the process, the commitment and the process has eased, though the circumstances haven't eased. There's always going to be stuff that pops up right. But the level, you know, equanimity is one of the magic words, right? That we try, that we strive for spiritual aspirants. It's creating space around our narratives, and dislodging ourselves from the web of the different storylines that are in our lives every day.
00:42:38.220 --> 00:42:44.309 Cali A.: That has definitely become easier because I've worked so hard to fortify my center.
00:42:44.600 --> 00:42:45.270 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Hmm.
00:42:45.270 --> 00:42:55.469 Cali A.: So and it's not like I walk around in La La Land, smiling and joyful, and and walking on air every day, because I'm far from that as much as lovely as that sounds. Who doesn't want to.
00:42:55.470 --> 00:42:56.350 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Been.
00:42:56.350 --> 00:42:58.889 Cali A.: Dreamy samadhi space all day long.
00:42:59.438 --> 00:43:07.959 Cali A.: But the idea of managing life and showing up for it and dealing with the the challenges, because
00:43:07.990 --> 00:43:11.979 Cali A.: the easy yummy stuff is always easier to have spaciousness around right.
00:43:11.980 --> 00:43:12.590 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Yes.
00:43:12.998 --> 00:43:21.170 Cali A.: Yes, it's become significantly easier. Yeah. And and I think it's also just because it's like a muscle memory thing.
00:43:21.990 --> 00:43:26.360 Cali A.: You know, you change your like meditation, for example. Right? I mean, that's a
00:43:26.400 --> 00:43:37.639 Cali A.: it does. It is it is a muscle that you exercise, and it does, the more you do it, the more reflexive it is, and the more it really works, and the more space really starts to
00:43:37.770 --> 00:43:40.450 Cali A.: collect in there in our reserve tanks.
00:43:40.810 --> 00:43:46.110 Cali A.: And so, if you have more space and and more distance from all the stuff.
00:43:46.320 --> 00:43:47.010 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Hmm.
00:43:47.350 --> 00:43:49.090 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: yeah. Yeah.
00:43:49.090 --> 00:43:52.259 Cali A.: It's it's it's a start right.
00:43:52.260 --> 00:43:55.550 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Right it. It definitely helps it definitely supports
00:43:57.300 --> 00:44:00.130 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: in in terms of your work. Now, though.
00:44:00.220 --> 00:44:08.030 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: have you focused more on the spiritual side, or like is your work, your work, and your spiritual practice, your spiritual practice.
00:44:08.710 --> 00:44:21.080 Cali A.: Well for the so young. When I was younger they were very dualistic, right? It was sort of like my personal life, and then my work life, and how in the world could the 2 of them I would, or very early on in my career.
00:44:21.120 --> 00:44:39.600 Cali A.: be commuting from New Jersey? I was living at my parents house at the time in my 1st few jobs in New York City, reading Shirley Mclean books on the platform of the train, waiting for the train while I had on my silly little outfits I didn't want to wear, and trying to tame my wild hair, which I didn't really want to do so. I was in a real place of duality, and it was not
00:44:40.080 --> 00:44:42.620 Cali A.: struggled with that for a really long time.
00:44:42.690 --> 00:44:49.550 Cali A.: and then once I started to integrate inside myself more. That's when the circumstances start to integrate.
00:44:49.550 --> 00:44:50.730 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Externally.
00:44:51.380 --> 00:44:58.470 Cali A.: So slowly but surely some of the TV shows that I worked on gave me the space to start lobbying for more
00:44:59.387 --> 00:45:04.289 Cali A.: unconditional unconventional and integrative health
00:45:04.720 --> 00:45:08.030 Cali A.: and meditation or energy healers, or
00:45:08.280 --> 00:45:19.769 Cali A.: things like that. And so slowly, my integration again, when you kind of look at it and sit with it and start to love it more on the inside. It starts showing up more on the outside right. That is one of the magic bullets, for sure
00:45:21.390 --> 00:45:24.448 Cali A.: And so more recently, I
00:45:25.940 --> 00:45:30.289 Cali A.: had worked for a holistic study retreat center
00:45:30.340 --> 00:45:41.209 Cali A.: for a bunch of years and had the good fortune of hosting a podcast where I was exclusively interviewing spiritual and wellness luminaries. So that was a great.
00:45:41.565 --> 00:45:41.920 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Great.
00:45:41.920 --> 00:45:45.626 Cali A.: Joy that was for Omega Institute, the Podcast
00:45:46.220 --> 00:46:00.429 Cali A.: and that was a real highlight of my tenure there in that job. And it was during Covid. It was a very, very tough time on a lot of levels, and misalignment was a very big piece of that job for me, too.
00:46:00.820 --> 00:46:07.199 Cali A.: That was the part that was challenging. But the podcast part was very, very aligned with who I was.
00:46:07.370 --> 00:46:16.339 Cali A.: but the idea of being able to be in the company of some of these great luminaries that we and I'm sure a lot of your listeners and guests either are or know
00:46:16.370 --> 00:46:24.729 Cali A.: has been, A great reflection of more integration for me. Now I'm in the in between
00:46:24.850 --> 00:46:31.179 Cali A.: and developing my own business now to trying to use all of my parts in the most
00:46:31.630 --> 00:46:35.720 Cali A.: authentic and aligned way I possibly can, which is hard. It takes a lot of.
00:46:35.720 --> 00:46:36.750 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Yes, that's.
00:46:36.750 --> 00:46:55.680 Cali A.: Spa, because you can't always find it on the outside. And if you want to live from a place so yes, my goal is to be more integrated. The desire is to use all of my hard, worn, hard one lessons to serve other people. It's really all I care about professionally, and to be able to pay the rent in the process.
00:46:55.680 --> 00:47:12.569 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Yeah, yeah, to be supported by by doing our life's calling. And you're leading perfectly into what I want to talk about when we come back from break. Which is, what are you doing now? What kind of things are you working on? So our audience can know what's Kelly up? What's Kelly up to today.
00:47:13.070 --> 00:47:16.789 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: But we'll get into that right after we take our break. Okay.
00:47:17.170 --> 00:47:18.590 Cali A.: Sounds great. Thank you.
00:47:18.590 --> 00:47:28.359 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Wonderful. So everyone, please stay tuned. You're listening to the conscious consultant hour awakening humanity, and we'll be right back with our guest, Callie alpert to wrap it all up.
00:49:36.550 --> 00:49:46.740 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: So, Callie, we've given people a tremendous amount of background on you. So let's get into what are you doing now? How are you trying to sort of bring your
00:49:46.790 --> 00:49:52.330 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: your integration of all that you've learned together into what you're offering for people. Now.
00:49:52.330 --> 00:49:54.620 Cali A.: Thank you for asking.
00:49:54.860 --> 00:50:05.109 Cali A.: Well, I will say that as a whole I'm going to back up just a little bit to the beginning of the year when I got downsized out of my job of the last 4 years.
00:50:05.640 --> 00:50:07.840 Cali A.: And that was
00:50:08.130 --> 00:50:16.410 Cali A.: a, you know, a bit of a shock and and not easy as it, you know, never is in these situations.
00:50:16.680 --> 00:50:23.290 Cali A.: And yet I also knew again that somewhere in my soul I had already
00:50:23.940 --> 00:50:28.309 Cali A.: manufactured or created or navigated the situation.
00:50:28.350 --> 00:50:32.059 Cali A.: you know, again. But it's really important not to bypass and do the spiritual bypass.
00:50:32.060 --> 00:50:32.460 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Yeah.
00:50:32.460 --> 00:50:37.449 Cali A.: It's meant to be, and I'll figure it out. And blah! Blah! I'm a huge proponent of letting yourself feel like
00:50:37.630 --> 00:50:43.690 Cali A.: you know what, for whatever designated period of time, and letting your emotions speak and
00:50:43.860 --> 00:50:47.610 Cali A.: unleashing all the different tumult that's in there.
00:50:49.510 --> 00:50:56.700 Cali A.: So this year has been a thawing out year for me in a way that I didn't know I needed to thaw out
00:50:57.390 --> 00:51:08.190 Cali A.: and some of it was because of the experiences that I had in this particular job that needed some love in my, in my, in my being
00:51:09.850 --> 00:51:15.079 Cali A.: And then I also realized that the floodgates behind that that opened up
00:51:15.450 --> 00:51:20.920 Cali A.: with huge support from my beloved boyfriend, who I know is listening. I'm going to give a shout out to you
00:51:21.010 --> 00:51:31.280 Cali A.: because he saw a need that I didn't even see, because I was too busy, like as I always am trying to fix and over effort. And re.
00:51:31.440 --> 00:51:53.170 Cali A.: you know, paint a new story and navigate something new and survive, because that's a really old embedded mechanism. And me. So I share all this because I think that these are always opportunities to mirror the stuff that comes up, and some of it which is very old, and can really use a little bit more
00:51:53.340 --> 00:51:59.009 Cali A.: kind of unpacking, and it's usually forced on us. It's usually not because we decide we're just going to do it one day. It's because
00:51:59.670 --> 00:52:03.130 Cali A.: a challenging situation happens right? So
00:52:03.290 --> 00:52:22.600 Cali A.: so that's part of it has been just to kind of operate in a few different lanes. At the same time. One is just letting myself kind of be in a way that I didn't know I needed to. I didn't know how psychically exhausted I was from life, and from a lot of different challenges and chapters that have been really hard for a long time.
00:52:22.600 --> 00:52:33.510 Cali A.: and the mechanism that's always trying to just kind of fix everything and not pay attention to what's underneath it. So a lot of my time has been spent just letting that kind of be so. That's 1.
00:52:33.510 --> 00:52:34.300 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Pierce.
00:52:34.300 --> 00:52:59.859 Cali A.: But the more practical answer that you're asking about and I appreciate is while that's been going on, it's me getting more in touch with what are the parts of me? What are my gifts that I now want to use and put together in a new way, to be of service, and for me to have the joy and creative alignment that I so desire and love. You know, when you're spending so much time in your work life, it's good to feel good about it right?
00:52:59.860 --> 00:53:00.265 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Right.
00:53:00.670 --> 00:53:12.200 Cali A.: So all this said, I have birthed a new business. It's called the Interviewer. INNE. R. viewer.net is the website, the interviewer.net.
00:53:12.330 --> 00:53:14.660 Cali A.: and what it is is a
00:53:15.000 --> 00:53:27.669 Cali A.: comes in a few different forms. I have a 1 on one private life guidance sessions. I don't call myself a life coach per se. It's maybe semantics. Some people might call it life coaching or spiritual life coaching.
00:53:27.680 --> 00:53:32.519 Cali A.: but what I do is, I use my experience as an interviewer
00:53:32.650 --> 00:53:38.640 Cali A.: and a provocative question asker, or perhaps insightful question asker. Some would call me
00:53:38.800 --> 00:53:47.430 Cali A.: with a lot of the experience and wisdom that I've gathered collectively from interviewing hundreds, if not thousands, of people, for 35, 40 years.
00:53:47.440 --> 00:53:52.289 Cali A.: and my own personal healing journey that I've been on as we've talked about and.
00:53:52.290 --> 00:53:52.670 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: It's.
00:53:52.670 --> 00:54:00.280 Cali A.: Influence of all those things, and I hold a space. Some people might call it therapy. I'm not a certified therapist, but people tell me. I remind them of a therapist.
00:54:01.178 --> 00:54:03.890 Cali A.: My client said that to me last week.
00:54:03.980 --> 00:54:15.500 Cali A.: and so that's 1 piece of it, and the other thing I've been doing, which has also been a beautiful experience, and in the early stages is, I've created some mindful communication workshops, their lunchtime workshops.
00:54:15.500 --> 00:54:16.550 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Oh!
00:54:16.897 --> 00:54:22.109 Cali A.: I did. A few test runs at a local university here in upstate New York.
00:54:22.170 --> 00:54:29.420 Cali A.: and I'm looking to take those to other universities, and it's a way to help provide services, especially for our young adults.
00:54:29.420 --> 00:54:29.999 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And have yet.
00:54:30.000 --> 00:54:38.220 Cali A.: To launch into the world that are lacking in resources for mental health and spiritual health, as we all know, as things get harder and harder on this planet.
00:54:38.440 --> 00:54:39.150 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Yeah.
00:54:39.310 --> 00:54:44.330 Cali A.: So that's just one example. I did a few conscious communication workshops which were a combination of
00:54:45.002 --> 00:54:47.500 Cali A.: a practice to get them more familiar with
00:54:47.530 --> 00:55:07.429 Cali A.: communicating with themselves and then witnessing how they really show up in communication with other people. So I take a lot of soft skills, and I turn them into workshops that kind of fit under the milieu of contemplative practices. So I'm starting to do that with companies. If anybody, any of your listeners have any need for that.
00:55:07.675 --> 00:55:07.920 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: That's.
00:55:07.920 --> 00:55:16.839 Cali A.: Something that's available also, and I'm available to be contacted for that or for free consults. All on the interviewer.net website.
00:55:17.748 --> 00:55:25.810 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And and for the individuals who come and work with you for life guidance. It's a term I heard for the 1st time, like 10 years ago.
00:55:25.810 --> 00:55:26.340 Cali A.: Oh!
00:55:26.340 --> 00:55:27.479 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Did myself.
00:55:27.480 --> 00:55:27.920 Cali A.: Oh!
00:55:29.470 --> 00:55:37.679 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: what kinds of people do you find are attracted to you like? Look what kinds of people really resonate with you, and how you work?
00:55:38.147 --> 00:55:43.550 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: So that if any of our listeners kind of fit into that that might be helpful.
00:55:43.892 --> 00:55:44.577 Cali A.: Thank you
00:55:44.980 --> 00:56:13.949 Cali A.: definitely. All walks of life. I would say, probably people that have a little bit more of a language like a spiritual language. It's not mandatory, but I wouldn't, you know, because I can help people with their like, with career changes, for example. But I wouldn't call myself an executive coach, which is just 1 1 style. So my work is more about getting in touch with like who you are from a spiritual perspective, and then how you can find applications for that in your daily life, whether it's in relationship
00:56:13.980 --> 00:56:26.570 Cali A.: with money, with your partner, with your job. So the the problems that we work on are universal. But I would say, that's probably somebody who speaks a little bit more of that language would appreciate what I have to offer more.
00:56:26.570 --> 00:56:26.985 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: But
00:56:27.400 --> 00:56:28.029 Cali A.: Yeah,
00:56:28.660 --> 00:56:30.809 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Beautiful, beautiful, beautiful, beautiful.
00:56:30.940 --> 00:56:33.239 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Well, Kelly, it's been a pleasure having you on.
00:56:33.240 --> 00:56:35.430 Cali A.: Oh, Sam, so good to
00:56:35.530 --> 00:56:52.759 Cali A.: see you hear you be with you. I also just want to honor what you've done for this radio station or platform, and how much work you and all your colleagues have put in to make it, you know, last and give it this this length, this amount of shelf life.
00:56:53.040 --> 00:56:53.560 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Yeah.
00:56:53.560 --> 00:56:57.220 Cali A.: So commendable. So thank you for still being here. Yeah.
00:56:57.220 --> 00:57:11.060 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Thank you. Thank you so much, Kelly. I really appreciate that. Yeah. A lot of people don't realize that the talkradio dot Nyc. As a station. It wasn't always called Talkradio dot Nyc. But as a station we've been around now over 14 years.
00:57:11.060 --> 00:57:11.820 Cali A.: Amazing.
00:57:11.820 --> 00:57:17.859 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And there's not too many other Internet radio stations who can make that claim? There used to be.
00:57:17.910 --> 00:57:24.009 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And back when I 1st took it. Over 14 years ago there used to be several others, and now they're just a handful less than a handful.
00:57:24.010 --> 00:57:38.779 Cali A.: And you've always had the purest intention, like I know your your soul and your inner Mench enough to know that you do. Everything you do is pervaded with that energy. So that's why you're still here. Yeah.
00:57:38.780 --> 00:57:50.590 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Yeah. Well, thank you. Thank you, Kelly. I appreciate that. So just one more time. If if anyone in our audience wants to reach out to you. Get to know, you understand? A little bit more of your work. Where would they go again?
00:57:50.810 --> 00:57:58.779 Cali A.: It's the interviewer. So the inner INNE RVIE wer.net.
00:57:59.080 --> 00:58:21.069 Cali A.: and that's where you can find information about my one-on-one sessions, my mindful communication workshops, and also interview oriented work that I do as well for people that want to learn to communicate and engage in different kinds of ways, or learn what it's like to understand the art form of question, asking family legacy interviews, that's all on there as well.
00:58:21.300 --> 00:58:22.779 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Wonderful, wonderful.
00:58:22.800 --> 00:58:27.799 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: wonderful! Well, thank you so much, Kelly, I really appreciate you. It was great having you on the show.
00:58:27.800 --> 00:58:29.089 Cali A.: Thank you. Sam.
00:58:29.090 --> 00:58:56.260 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: You're welcome, and of course, thank you, my loyal listeners, for tuning in every week. Without you there is no show, so I truly appreciate everyone who tunes in and don't forget. Later today we have Frank Harrison and his show, Frank about health tomorrow, Tommy Demisa and his show philanthropy and focus. And then we started off next week again, starting off the 1st show of the week with Dr. Mira Branku and her show
00:58:56.290 --> 00:59:02.870 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: the hard skills. So thank you all for tuning in. Take care we will talk to you all next week.
Talking Alternative Broadcasting
392 Central Park West Suite 17R - New York, NY 10025
Privacy Policy · Terms & Conditions
Thank You for Visiting TALKRADIO.NYC © 2022.
