Sam Liebowitz, known as The Conscious Consultant, is a mentor, coach, speaker, healer, serial entrepreneur and is a four-time best-selling author, and author of Everyday Awakening.
His current ventures include The Conscious Consultant, a coaching and mentoring service which promotes sensible, ethical, moral and conscious ways to build careers and businesses, TalkRadio.nyc, an internet Radio Station, which reaches over 120 countries and 300,000 listeners worldwide, and Double Diamond Wellness, a healing center in the
Heart of Manhattan.
Sam has much wisdom to share about business, healing and conscious depth.
.We will discuss Everyday Awakening & The A Train to Sedona.
Sam Leibowitz and Linda Marsanico will dialog about their books, and their spiritual experiences. The repartee should be rich and informative.
Linda and Sam will have a dialog about some of the following:
Everyday Awakening:
Loneliness is about Separation from Ourselves.
We are Both Light and Dark.
There is No Them. There is Only Us.
Just Because We Feel Angry Does Not Mean We Have to Respond with Anger
The A Train to Sedona:
Assertion
Love & Compassion
12 Tips for the Spiritual Path
Why I Wrote the Book
Music: https://meditationmusiclibrary.com/ The tune is "My Relaxing Piano."
Linda opens her show introducing her guest Sam Liebowitz, conversation starts off with Linda asking Sam about how things got started. They also cover how spirituality has affected Sam in his life. Linda also asks about Sam’s book everyday awakening, how he came up with it along with how he pivoted when the person he was working with got hospitalized.
Segment 2 starts off with a conversation on how loneliness is separation from ourselves. Things then shift to processing pain and avoiding suffering and the light and darkness inside us all. They also start talking about how there is no them, there is only us.
Things continue in segment 3 picking up where segment 2 left off with how there is no them, there is only us. They also talk about consciousness. Linda also shares a story about love.
Segment 4 closes the show with a conversation and stories about assertions and voicing our needs.
00:00:54.440 --> 00:01:00.340 Linda Marsanico: Hello, everyone! I'm Linda Marcannico, and this is the A. Train to Sedona.
00:01:00.870 --> 00:01:05.509 Linda Marsanico: It's Wednesday, November 13, th 2,024.
00:01:07.000 --> 00:01:14.459 Linda Marsanico: The a train to Sedona is also the name of a book. I wrote a memoir about my journey to love and compassion
00:01:14.870 --> 00:01:23.299 Linda Marsanico: in the book. I talk about my failures, my successes in the hope that my journey would make your journey easier.
00:01:24.240 --> 00:01:26.670 Linda Marsanico: You can purchase a signed copy
00:01:26.800 --> 00:01:30.139 Linda Marsanico: on my website@lindamarsenico.com.
00:01:31.530 --> 00:01:37.149 Linda Marsanico: You can also purchase the book at retail stores bookstores.
00:01:37.510 --> 00:01:39.860 Linda Marsanico: Let's remember that in New York City
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00:01:59.110 --> 00:02:02.320 Linda Marsanico: as an example. Tip number 4 is
00:02:02.990 --> 00:02:05.339 Linda Marsanico: affirmations and mantras.
00:02:06.470 --> 00:02:08.890 Linda Marsanico: phrases and words that you can
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00:02:12.300 --> 00:02:16.350 Linda Marsanico: You can download that free gift@lindamarzanico.com.
00:02:18.230 --> 00:02:20.019 Linda Marsanico: I have 2 disclaimers.
00:02:20.120 --> 00:02:21.610 Linda Marsanico: One is that
00:02:22.060 --> 00:02:26.779 Linda Marsanico: this broadcast does not represent it does not establish
00:02:27.090 --> 00:02:29.450 Linda Marsanico: a professional relationship.
00:02:29.730 --> 00:02:36.949 Linda Marsanico: The second disclaimer is that the opinions expressed on the show do not represent talk radio. New York City.
00:02:38.040 --> 00:02:39.640 Linda Marsanico: Today's guest
00:02:39.830 --> 00:02:41.600 Linda Marsanico: is Sam Leibowitz.
00:02:41.910 --> 00:02:45.139 Linda Marsanico: and I want to share some information about him.
00:02:46.930 --> 00:02:56.519 Linda Marsanico: Sam Lebowitz, known as the Conscious Consultant, is a mentor, coach, speaker, healer, serial, entrepreneur.
00:02:56.540 --> 00:03:02.440 Linda Marsanico: and is a four-time best-selling author. The author of the number one empowerment book
00:03:02.490 --> 00:03:04.130 Linda Marsanico: Everyday Awakening.
00:03:04.950 --> 00:03:11.750 Linda Marsanico: He has been in business since 1993, and has owned several successful businesses.
00:03:12.300 --> 00:03:25.510 Linda Marsanico: His current ventures include the conscious Consultant, a coaching and mentoring service which promotes sensible, ethical, moral, and conscious ways to build careers and businesses.
00:03:25.730 --> 00:03:29.620 Linda Marsanico: talk radio, new York City, an Internet radio station
00:03:29.630 --> 00:03:36.279 Linda Marsanico: which reaches over 120 countries and 300,000 listeners, worldwide
00:03:37.180 --> 00:03:42.839 Linda Marsanico: and Double Diamond Wellness Healing center in the heart of Manhattan.
00:03:43.600 --> 00:03:50.729 Linda Marsanico: In these various roles Sam has inspired hundreds of people to live a life that is happier.
00:03:51.010 --> 00:03:53.480 Linda Marsanico: healthier, and more fulfilled.
00:03:54.130 --> 00:04:04.070 Linda Marsanico: Sam has lectured in several venues in New York City, including being a featured speaker at Tedx, Upper West Side in 2,016.
00:04:04.500 --> 00:04:06.410 Linda Marsanico: Welcome to the show, Sam.
00:04:06.410 --> 00:04:10.430 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Thank you, Linda. Thank you so much for having me on your show today.
00:04:11.070 --> 00:04:12.399 Linda Marsanico: I'm so pleased.
00:04:13.870 --> 00:04:16.600 Linda Marsanico: I want to ask you if you can share
00:04:17.149 --> 00:04:19.320 Linda Marsanico: what your past.
00:04:20.260 --> 00:04:22.790 Linda Marsanico: what in your past has led you
00:04:22.900 --> 00:04:25.240 Linda Marsanico: in your journey to where you are now.
00:04:26.480 --> 00:04:37.739 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: You know, it's kind of funny, because running the radio station in the Wellness center, people always ask me, well, do you have background in broadcast, or your background in medical or something.
00:04:37.920 --> 00:04:43.050 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and my answer is always, no. I just met a guy at a party.
00:04:43.980 --> 00:04:44.710 Linda Marsanico: Yeah.
00:04:44.710 --> 00:05:04.540 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: You know it just very happenstance thing, and met this gentleman, and who was an acupuncturist who tells me he's decided to become a Buddhist monk, and he's selling off all his worldly possessions, and I was just like, well, just sell your business yet, and he's like no, not yet. But I'm talking to people. But I'm like.
00:05:04.750 --> 00:05:09.109 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: I network a lot. I know a lot of people. Maybe I can help you sell your business.
00:05:09.410 --> 00:05:17.850 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And after meeting with him for 2 and a half hours, and and kind of seeing it's like getting 2 businesses for the price of one.
00:05:18.330 --> 00:05:25.539 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: I was like. Gee, it's such a good deal. If I can't find someone to buy your business, I'll just buy it myself, which is eventually what happened.
00:05:26.130 --> 00:05:27.170 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: So
00:05:28.080 --> 00:05:30.319 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: it's just kind of I have a
00:05:30.390 --> 00:05:36.630 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: a good capacity to say yes, when life puts certain opportunities in my path.
00:05:36.800 --> 00:05:42.260 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: so it takes me to all kinds of strange and different places that I never expected.
00:05:43.070 --> 00:05:45.660 Linda Marsanico: That was quite a synchronistic meeting.
00:05:46.230 --> 00:05:54.339 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Yeah. And the thing was when I met him. And he's telling me he's an acupuncturist. And he started this Internet radio station. I was like, this is kind of familiar.
00:05:54.580 --> 00:06:06.789 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: I was like, what's your name again? And he says, Giorgio Rippetti, and I'm like, I know who you are, because my friend Larry Sharp does a radio show on your network, and he's told me about you, but he never connected us.
00:06:06.870 --> 00:06:25.929 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: You know. It's kind of like Fate and Larry I had known for a number of years. I met him through Bni. I actually used to do some, you know, back when we were in person. Before I had my own office I would do some coaching. I would rent out his office in the Evening Times
00:06:25.930 --> 00:06:39.059 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: sometime, so I knew Larry pretty well. And so after I met Giorgio and I talked to Larry about it. And he's like, Yeah, I think it's a great idea. So yeah, it was just a very serendipitous meeting.
00:06:41.480 --> 00:06:43.220 Linda Marsanico: And what would you say?
00:06:43.870 --> 00:06:46.920 Linda Marsanico: The role of spirituality is in your life.
00:06:48.460 --> 00:06:50.990 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Well, spirituality has had a very deep
00:06:51.660 --> 00:06:56.550 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: central place in my life for most of my life, I mean, in the
00:06:56.700 --> 00:07:08.409 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: beginning of my life. I had a very spiritual experience when I was in college, and just after college, and things got kind of messy with it, and I walked away from it, not knowing what to believe in, and then over the last
00:07:09.120 --> 00:07:14.920 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Jesus. Now it's close to 20 years. The universe kind of nudged me kind of back
00:07:15.330 --> 00:07:16.800 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: on my path.
00:07:19.280 --> 00:07:20.110 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: but
00:07:20.260 --> 00:07:23.290 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: you know it kind of struck me once
00:07:23.940 --> 00:07:28.140 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: there used to be this show on the network called the Dudes of Disruption.
00:07:28.360 --> 00:07:38.680 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: These 3 guys who were all either executive coaches or life coaches, and they had their rules of being a dude that they talk about on their show.
00:07:38.680 --> 00:07:39.110 Linda Marsanico: Yeah.
00:07:39.110 --> 00:07:42.400 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And I remember I was there, and I was engineering at the time.
00:07:42.470 --> 00:07:50.019 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and they said that the number one rule of being a dude is to know your higher purpose.
00:07:50.440 --> 00:07:51.010 Linda Marsanico: Hmm.
00:07:51.010 --> 00:07:59.820 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And they talked about it. And I'm just sitting there, and I'm engineering the show and it like. Instantly I knew what my higher purpose was, and it was something that
00:08:00.260 --> 00:08:05.079 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: kind of is evident throughout all the different things that I do which is to
00:08:05.480 --> 00:08:09.590 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: to assist with the unfoldment of consciousness on the planet.
00:08:10.680 --> 00:08:12.740 Linda Marsanico: That's a very worthy goal, Sam.
00:08:12.890 --> 00:08:26.250 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And it's something like through the radio station. We do it with the different shows through the coaching and mentoring work. I do. I do it through the healing work that I do through just about everything that I do.
00:08:26.530 --> 00:08:34.060 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: You know it all is expressed in different ways in different facets. But ultimately it's all about.
00:08:34.640 --> 00:08:42.070 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Am I helping people in some way, shape or form, to be more aware, more awake, more conscious in their life?
00:08:43.049 --> 00:08:43.659 Linda Marsanico: Hmm!
00:08:44.079 --> 00:08:47.109 Linda Marsanico: That, as I said, I'm impressed by the goal.
00:08:48.019 --> 00:08:50.159 Linda Marsanico: What led you to
00:08:50.659 --> 00:08:56.579 Linda Marsanico: write everyday awakening? I know it's a series of blog posts, and I think
00:08:56.659 --> 00:09:03.059 Linda Marsanico: I want to jump to the 1st one as soon as you tell me more about this. But everyday awakening. It's it's
00:09:03.350 --> 00:09:09.389 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: So it's kind of funny, because this actually wasn't going to be my 1st book.
00:09:10.486 --> 00:09:17.979 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: My original idea was to take a bunch of the transcripts from my show, the conscious consultant hour.
00:09:18.480 --> 00:09:27.790 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: I there was an old friend of mine who I knew from my real estate days, who was now doing something different, and worked on creating these memoirs and stuff, and she had ghostwriters and editors.
00:09:28.140 --> 00:09:36.499 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And so I was working with this ghostwriter to take all these transcripts, getting her to get a real feel for me, and we were going to
00:09:36.580 --> 00:09:41.189 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: sort of take them, put it together of like a body of work. That would be my 1st book.
00:09:41.840 --> 00:09:48.970 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: But then the ghost rider got in a bad car accident and was laid up in the hospital for several months.
00:09:49.320 --> 00:10:03.619 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and the person who was, you know, managing the whole thing was like couldn't get access. You know. She didn't have any of the information. And we'd done all these phone calls she'd started to come with some ideas. But we, you know, pretty much the information was lost. So
00:10:03.950 --> 00:10:07.290 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: I was back to square one. And
00:10:07.450 --> 00:10:10.190 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: now it's 2020, and I'm like
00:10:10.230 --> 00:10:14.009 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: with the pandemic I like. I got to come out with something this year.
00:10:14.480 --> 00:10:31.130 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And so one of the thought leaders, that I like to follow. His name is Seth Godin. He's like a marketing and strategy, thought Leader. He had come out with this book. That was a compilation of blog posts with fancy graphics and everything.
00:10:31.190 --> 00:10:32.310 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And I thought.
00:10:32.380 --> 00:10:38.179 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: You know, I've been writing a blog for 6 or 7 years if if he can do it, why can't I?
00:10:38.270 --> 00:10:57.799 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: So then I took this. At the time it was over 350 blog posts hired a professional editor. We kind of sifted through them and and came up, you know, pulled out what we felt at the time were 126 of the best of them organized them into 7 chapters.
00:10:57.840 --> 00:11:03.860 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: kind of sort of loosely associated with the 7. The energies of the 7 chakras
00:11:04.050 --> 00:11:12.480 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and yeah, worked on that. And and and that's what ended up being my 1st book, and I was really
00:11:12.950 --> 00:11:36.680 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: humbled by the reception that it got the fact that we hit Number one in 3 different categories on Amazon when we launched it. And and you know I have over a dozen testimonials in the book from people who I consider to be real thought leaders in the transformational space, who, who, all, you know, looked at the manuscript and said, this is really great.
00:11:38.450 --> 00:11:44.860 Linda Marsanico: so what I'm wondering is when you realized that the person who was going to work with you could not
00:11:45.060 --> 00:11:46.820 Linda Marsanico: how you handled.
00:11:48.520 --> 00:11:56.660 Linda Marsanico: I don't want to say disappointment, because I don't know whether you felt disappointed. But there was something you had to turn around. And what was that process.
00:12:00.242 --> 00:12:03.970 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: You know, it's kind of interesting, because
00:12:04.820 --> 00:12:23.859 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: I think it was sort of the same thing that made it relatively easy for me to adapt to the pandemic. When we all started working from home, and everything was virtual and literally over a weekend, I turned the radio station from an in-person in Studio station to a virtual station.
00:12:25.500 --> 00:12:26.500 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and
00:12:27.670 --> 00:12:33.619 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: I don't remember when I 1st heard it, but years and years ago I heard this Buddhist precept
00:12:34.780 --> 00:12:37.889 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: about not resisting what is.
00:12:37.890 --> 00:12:38.720 Linda Marsanico: Hmm.
00:12:38.720 --> 00:12:47.219 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: That suffering comes from resisting, what is meaning, that when we resist what the reality is, that's when we suffer.
00:12:47.220 --> 00:12:47.630 Linda Marsanico: Yes.
00:12:49.190 --> 00:12:50.550 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And so
00:12:51.190 --> 00:12:54.810 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: I kind of really took that in when I heard it.
00:12:55.230 --> 00:13:01.179 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And over the years, just through various experiences stuff, I've learned to be very flexible.
00:13:02.290 --> 00:13:04.880 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And so when something happens.
00:13:04.890 --> 00:13:07.949 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: that's not what's expected.
00:13:08.640 --> 00:13:18.909 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Do I get, you know, disappointed? A little upset. Yeah, sure. But it's like, okay, this is the new reality. This is what is, what do we do? How do we flow with it?
00:13:19.100 --> 00:13:27.189 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: It's something I also learned, you know, from back in the days when I was heavy. Duty into personal development is to always be focused on the solution, not the problem.
00:13:27.430 --> 00:13:28.280 Linda Marsanico: Right.
00:13:28.280 --> 00:13:33.980 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Right. So the problem might be. Oh, the ghostwriter who I spent all these hours with
00:13:34.150 --> 00:13:38.530 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: getting to know me, and was going to write this thing now can't do it.
00:13:39.060 --> 00:13:43.350 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Okay, that's the problem. But what's the solution? Okay, what's next? What else can I do?
00:13:43.500 --> 00:13:55.849 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And and so part of the reason why I went to my blog post also is it's already written. It just had to be edited and put together, and I had to write a, you know, a little preface and and stuff. So it was the
00:13:56.900 --> 00:14:05.519 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: the thing that seemed to be. Well, what's the fastest way that I could do something, because I just felt like I needed to come out with something that year.
00:14:05.730 --> 00:14:11.359 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and and, you know, started working with my editor, Stephanie that year.
00:14:11.460 --> 00:14:18.090 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: I think it was in shortly after the pandemic started, and we came out with it in November.
00:14:19.100 --> 00:14:20.450 Linda Marsanico: Wonderful work.
00:14:20.700 --> 00:14:21.069 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Thank you.
00:14:21.070 --> 00:14:30.680 Linda Marsanico: I'm remembering what the Buddhists say about pain and suffering. When you have pain, don't add suffering to it, and I think of turning it.
00:14:31.420 --> 00:14:33.610 Linda Marsanico: shifting it like with a frisbee.
00:14:33.780 --> 00:14:51.499 Linda Marsanico: and then moving to something more loving. Now we have to take a break, but before we go on break, I want to say we have a comment from Patty Brand. Hello! She says, and she says she'll be listening on Thursday at noon.
00:14:51.500 --> 00:15:03.779 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Patty is one of my loyal listeners. She tunes into my show every week. I am always so thrilled when she comments. So thank you, Patty, appreciate you glad you're listening today.
00:15:04.100 --> 00:15:08.220 Linda Marsanico: And thank you, Patty, for listening in on the age range at Sedona.
00:15:08.330 --> 00:15:11.210 Linda Marsanico: When we come back we're going to be talking about.
00:15:11.230 --> 00:15:16.420 Linda Marsanico: Loneliness is about separation from ourselves. Take it away, engineer.
00:17:30.980 --> 00:17:42.210 Linda Marsanico: Hi! Everyone! Welcome back to the A. Train to Sedona. I'm Linda Mars Sanico with Guest Sam Lebowitz. Sam. We're going to be talking about loneliness
00:17:42.350 --> 00:17:45.620 Linda Marsanico: is about separation from ourselves.
00:17:46.920 --> 00:17:52.030 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Yeah. So that's one of the things in my book Everyday Awakening.
00:17:52.120 --> 00:17:52.929 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and
00:17:54.300 --> 00:18:02.409 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: is one of the things that I've learned over the years from doing my own personal work and working with different facilitators and mentors.
00:18:04.170 --> 00:18:07.780 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: We have this human tendency to
00:18:08.360 --> 00:18:11.810 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: make how we're feeling about something
00:18:11.830 --> 00:18:16.169 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: about the external world, about what's going on out there.
00:18:17.120 --> 00:18:22.310 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And what I've learned is it's really all about what's going on inside. What's going on in here.
00:18:22.310 --> 00:18:23.000 Linda Marsanico: Yes.
00:18:24.090 --> 00:18:31.919 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And so I remember someone saying, once in a ceremony, I was at that. You know, loneliness is about
00:18:31.930 --> 00:18:36.039 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: separation from ourselves, because there are lots of people out there
00:18:36.240 --> 00:18:38.879 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: who are by themselves, but they're not lonely.
00:18:39.360 --> 00:18:45.210 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And then there are other people who are in the middle of a crowd, surrounded by people, and they feel lonely.
00:18:45.210 --> 00:18:45.840 Linda Marsanico: Yeah.
00:18:46.570 --> 00:18:52.200 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: So it's not really about if we're with someone else. If we're around someone else.
00:18:53.340 --> 00:18:57.259 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: it's really about how we're feeling inside.
00:18:58.120 --> 00:18:59.250 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And and
00:18:59.500 --> 00:19:05.020 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: most of the time, and I'm sure there are exceptions to it, the rule. But most of the time.
00:19:05.170 --> 00:19:12.370 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: if we're feeling lonely, it's because we're not really connected to ourselves, to our heart, to our spirit.
00:19:12.440 --> 00:19:15.329 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: We're not connected to.
00:19:15.470 --> 00:19:20.369 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: to that thing within us that that pulls us forward in life.
00:19:21.430 --> 00:19:27.640 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: So that's really the gist of of that particular part of of everyday awakening.
00:19:29.400 --> 00:19:55.969 Linda Marsanico: With my clients. I've often worked on the child within, who is, I think, we have a number of children within, and that's where our genius lies, but it's also where pain exists. And so in working with the adults to the child, dialoguing and having writing in journals can really lead to a lot of healing. But it's so true we need to integrate. We need to
00:19:56.450 --> 00:19:58.330 Linda Marsanico: ask the questions of
00:19:58.800 --> 00:20:05.589 Linda Marsanico: ourselves about getting to the core of of love within us. So I I'm with you. 100%.
00:20:05.590 --> 00:20:10.329 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And I actually wanted to go back to something you said before the break about pain and suffering.
00:20:10.620 --> 00:20:16.070 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: the way I remember hearing the quote that I believe the Dalai Lama said.
00:20:17.210 --> 00:20:19.579 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: is he said, life is
00:20:19.760 --> 00:20:24.280 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: pain. Life is filled with pain, but suffering is optional.
00:20:24.510 --> 00:20:25.190 Linda Marsanico: Yeah.
00:20:25.830 --> 00:20:32.630 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And you know you think about that statement. It's like, how can suffering be optional? Look at the suffering going on in the world today. Of course, there's suffering.
00:20:32.990 --> 00:20:37.219 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: But what he was really saying was something very profound and deep.
00:20:39.530 --> 00:20:44.749 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Yes, when we live life, we're going to experience pain, there's just no way to avoid it.
00:20:45.550 --> 00:20:47.410 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: But what causes suffering?
00:20:47.810 --> 00:20:52.670 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: The suffering comes from the story that we make up about the pain.
00:20:54.060 --> 00:20:57.879 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And so, when we have access to
00:20:57.980 --> 00:21:03.949 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: the meaning making and the stories we create around pain around
00:21:04.340 --> 00:21:06.829 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: all kinds of things that happen in life.
00:21:07.120 --> 00:21:11.739 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: then we don't have to suffer, or at least don't have to suffer as much.
00:21:14.290 --> 00:21:17.930 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And you know we have this very human conception that
00:21:18.030 --> 00:21:20.660 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: pain is bad and pleasure is good.
00:21:20.960 --> 00:21:22.859 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: But is pain really bad?
00:21:23.290 --> 00:21:27.509 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: You know I often when I teach classes, I use the analogy of
00:21:27.790 --> 00:21:31.309 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: you know, if you if we weren't able to feel pain
00:21:31.750 --> 00:21:34.259 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and we put our hand on a hot stove.
00:21:34.490 --> 00:21:36.469 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: What would eventually happen.
00:21:36.470 --> 00:21:37.100 Linda Marsanico: Hmm.
00:21:38.020 --> 00:21:40.820 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Right, it would burn up. We'd lose our hand.
00:21:41.130 --> 00:21:46.579 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: but because we can feel pain we go. Ouch! And we pull the hand away from the hot stove.
00:21:46.940 --> 00:21:49.220 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: So the pain actually protects us.
00:21:49.600 --> 00:21:50.270 Linda Marsanico: Yes.
00:21:51.030 --> 00:21:53.630 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: So pain actually is a very
00:21:53.680 --> 00:21:55.820 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: useful feeling.
00:21:58.060 --> 00:22:00.600 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: It's just learning how to
00:22:00.820 --> 00:22:02.770 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: recognize it.
00:22:03.220 --> 00:22:07.179 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: See what it's trying to tell us, not judge it.
00:22:08.280 --> 00:22:13.000 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And then we can really avoid a lot of the suffering that most people
00:22:13.080 --> 00:22:14.649 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: live their life in.
00:22:15.670 --> 00:22:17.320 Linda Marsanico: I agree, Sam.
00:22:17.830 --> 00:22:23.999 Linda Marsanico: letting go of what doesn't serve us is a very important concept of moving forward.
00:22:24.110 --> 00:22:27.080 Linda Marsanico: And I think that's where the suffering can come in
00:22:27.170 --> 00:22:29.950 Linda Marsanico: where we stay with something. We
00:22:30.590 --> 00:22:41.879 Linda Marsanico: perhaps talk too much about it, seek people out who we know will listen to our venting when really the opposite is more helpful to grieve the loss
00:22:42.360 --> 00:22:44.760 Linda Marsanico: and to accept the reality.
00:22:44.830 --> 00:22:48.099 Linda Marsanico: because I do believe that suffering is
00:22:48.290 --> 00:22:54.729 Linda Marsanico: optional. But we need to work at that we need to work at turning around and moving in the opposite direction.
00:22:55.290 --> 00:22:56.970 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Yes, absolutely.
00:22:58.450 --> 00:23:02.416 Linda Marsanico: So. Is there anything more you want to say about that before we go on to another?
00:23:03.222 --> 00:23:04.940 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Let's move on.
00:23:04.940 --> 00:23:05.690 Linda Marsanico: Okay.
00:23:08.120 --> 00:23:11.030 Linda Marsanico: We are both light and dark.
00:23:12.690 --> 00:23:14.070 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Yeah, absolutely.
00:23:14.070 --> 00:23:15.410 Linda Marsanico: That I love, that.
00:23:16.230 --> 00:23:21.030 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Yeah, I again, it comes down to this very human
00:23:21.440 --> 00:23:23.350 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: judgment
00:23:23.780 --> 00:23:24.750 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: that
00:23:24.950 --> 00:23:29.869 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: you know everything should just be light and fun, and happy and joyful all the time.
00:23:30.920 --> 00:23:32.620 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: But that's not real.
00:23:33.950 --> 00:23:38.099 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: you know. We we all have aspects within us
00:23:38.890 --> 00:23:41.820 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: that would be judged as good or bad.
00:23:42.070 --> 00:23:45.350 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: We all have shadow, light and shadow.
00:23:46.140 --> 00:23:47.380 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: you know.
00:23:47.560 --> 00:23:50.430 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: without the shadow, how do we know we're light
00:23:51.560 --> 00:23:54.550 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and without light? How do we recognize a shadow?
00:23:57.680 --> 00:24:02.220 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And I think that where we get in trouble is when we
00:24:02.280 --> 00:24:04.890 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: deny our darkness.
00:24:05.820 --> 00:24:09.789 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: when we deny those urges, when we deny those thoughts
00:24:09.870 --> 00:24:14.000 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: instead of recognizing them and holding them, doesn't mean we have to
00:24:14.030 --> 00:24:15.210 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: act on them.
00:24:15.730 --> 00:24:16.520 Linda Marsanico: Right.
00:24:17.930 --> 00:24:20.100 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: But when we really hold them
00:24:21.600 --> 00:24:25.050 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and give space for them, and have compassion for them.
00:24:26.400 --> 00:24:33.620 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: when we learn to have compassion for our own darkness. Then we can learn to have compassion for other people's darkness.
00:24:35.240 --> 00:24:39.359 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And then we can also learn to have really good boundaries
00:24:40.570 --> 00:24:43.189 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: about what's okay and what's not okay.
00:24:44.110 --> 00:24:49.900 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And so when we have boundaries with ourselves, that like, okay, I can. I might have this thought.
00:24:50.480 --> 00:24:57.110 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: but I'm not going to act on it because it's going to hurt someone else, or it's going to impact somebody else in some fashion.
00:24:57.930 --> 00:25:02.060 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And I don't want to impact them that way. So I can have a boundary around it.
00:25:02.360 --> 00:25:07.370 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and once I'm good at having boundaries with my own darkness.
00:25:07.850 --> 00:25:11.829 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: then I can have appropriate boundaries with someone else's darkness.
00:25:13.190 --> 00:25:16.889 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: I don't have to judge them and condemn them for it.
00:25:17.800 --> 00:25:22.510 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: But that doesn't mean I have to put up with them, and it doesn't mean I have to allow them
00:25:22.980 --> 00:25:27.089 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: to impact myself or other people
00:25:27.140 --> 00:25:28.770 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: through their darkness.
00:25:31.830 --> 00:25:36.980 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And so, you know, there's this old Star Trek episode.
00:25:37.320 --> 00:25:39.089 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: We're Captain Kirk
00:25:39.290 --> 00:25:43.880 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: gets beamed up from the planet, and he kind of splits into 2.
00:25:44.536 --> 00:25:45.349 Linda Marsanico: And and.
00:25:45.350 --> 00:25:48.779 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And so the 1 1, Captain Kirk, is the
00:25:49.080 --> 00:26:02.710 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: kind, the thoughtful person. But he has a hard time making decision, and then there's the other Captain Kirk, who's aggressive and powerful, and this and that, and and
00:26:03.090 --> 00:26:06.710 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and it was such a great episode of like
00:26:07.470 --> 00:26:13.980 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: he needed both sides in order to be captain, and eventually, you know, got put back together.
00:26:15.070 --> 00:26:17.549 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And I just kind of feel like
00:26:18.330 --> 00:26:25.630 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: like that's us. That was such a profound lesson for us as individuals in a spiritual lesson that
00:26:26.350 --> 00:26:27.690 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: you know not.
00:26:27.840 --> 00:26:29.960 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Everything that that
00:26:30.520 --> 00:26:37.430 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: is aggressive is bad, and not everything that's that's kind is good. You know that there are.
00:26:37.570 --> 00:26:49.740 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: There are aspects and elements of both, that when we can integrate them and bring them together in a balanced and conscious way, like that's when we're at our most powerful.
00:26:50.240 --> 00:26:51.040 Linda Marsanico: Miss
00:26:52.900 --> 00:26:55.789 Linda Marsanico: acceptance of our own dark side
00:26:56.790 --> 00:27:06.240 Linda Marsanico: allows us to bring information up from the unconscious. Once we give the okay to universe to help, since we have
00:27:06.290 --> 00:27:20.790 Linda Marsanico: free will will get lots of help, and information will come up from the unconscious so that we can accept the dark side. And when we started, as you were saying, accepting that we're going to be able to accept others as well.
00:27:21.520 --> 00:27:27.689 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Right, because when we stop judging ourselves, and it's easier to be less judgmental of others.
00:27:27.690 --> 00:27:28.380 Linda Marsanico: Yes.
00:27:28.690 --> 00:27:33.150 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And you know the old expression that hurt people hurt people.
00:27:33.470 --> 00:27:34.070 Linda Marsanico: Yes.
00:27:34.070 --> 00:27:35.920 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Do you know that that
00:27:36.220 --> 00:27:41.560 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: that it's only out of our own pain that we normally hurt someone else?
00:27:43.150 --> 00:27:45.780 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: So when we can accept our pain
00:27:46.300 --> 00:27:49.699 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and give space for it and hold it
00:27:49.920 --> 00:27:54.159 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: in a tender way. Then we don't have to hurt someone else.
00:27:54.810 --> 00:27:56.040 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: But we can't.
00:27:56.580 --> 00:28:00.239 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: We can't show someone else how to do that until we've done it ourselves.
00:28:03.510 --> 00:28:06.119 Linda Marsanico: Now, did you want to say anything more about.
00:28:06.940 --> 00:28:07.879 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Let's keep going.
00:28:08.080 --> 00:28:11.879 Linda Marsanico: Okay, we have 2 min to break, but I think we could start on.
00:28:12.710 --> 00:28:15.769 Linda Marsanico: There is no them. There's only us.
00:28:19.540 --> 00:28:22.259 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Yes, that that was when I I
00:28:22.510 --> 00:28:27.200 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: a facilitator, I heard say about 10 years ago.
00:28:28.390 --> 00:28:31.039 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and it just really struck me like
00:28:31.610 --> 00:28:33.689 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: how important that is.
00:28:34.020 --> 00:28:34.660 Linda Marsanico: Yeah.
00:28:34.660 --> 00:28:39.560 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: We have this tendency to create an Us and a them.
00:28:39.820 --> 00:28:42.600 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and we separate ourselves from them.
00:28:42.830 --> 00:28:47.440 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And when we go to extremes, we even make the them unhuman.
00:28:47.460 --> 00:28:52.560 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: So it's easy to discard them and and not consider them.
00:28:52.700 --> 00:28:53.400 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: It's
00:28:53.640 --> 00:28:55.990 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: but the truth is, there is no them.
00:28:56.070 --> 00:28:57.870 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: There is only us.
00:28:58.190 --> 00:29:01.299 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: There's 1 human race.
00:29:01.810 --> 00:29:02.470 Linda Marsanico: Yes.
00:29:02.470 --> 00:29:06.900 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: There's not 5 or 6 different races. There's 1 human race.
00:29:07.780 --> 00:29:09.440 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: we we're
00:29:09.590 --> 00:29:15.730 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: our genetics. We're 99% the same than every other person.
00:29:17.470 --> 00:29:18.940 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And just this.
00:29:19.610 --> 00:29:25.619 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: we have a tendency to separate ourselves. There's this epidemic of separation
00:29:25.770 --> 00:29:29.850 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: that's happened in the world over the last millennia
00:29:31.850 --> 00:29:35.110 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: where we make ourselves separate from other people.
00:29:36.340 --> 00:29:39.880 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: But I think this was one of the big lessons of the pandemic.
00:29:40.090 --> 00:29:42.610 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: We're not separate from other people.
00:29:43.290 --> 00:29:46.600 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: One person's health is everybody's health.
00:29:47.660 --> 00:29:51.929 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: One person's prosperity is everyone's prosperity.
00:29:53.370 --> 00:29:55.060 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: you know. If if
00:29:55.840 --> 00:29:57.970 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: if we're not all
00:29:58.420 --> 00:29:59.910 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: thriving.
00:30:00.420 --> 00:30:03.309 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: then none of us are truly thriving.
00:30:04.480 --> 00:30:07.020 Linda Marsanico: Would you hold that? Thought Sam.
00:30:07.610 --> 00:30:13.449 Linda Marsanico: Hold that thought. We're going to take a break, and we'll be right back
00:30:14.130 --> 00:30:16.439 Linda Marsanico: to. There is no
00:30:16.910 --> 00:30:20.530 Linda Marsanico: us and them. There's only us. We are all one.
00:30:21.260 --> 00:30:24.329 Linda Marsanico: There is no them, there is no us. Take it away.
00:32:29.900 --> 00:32:40.069 Linda Marsanico: Hello, everyone! Welcome back to the A. Train to Sedona. We have a comment from Linkedin, from Harris, R. Gerson. I hope I'm pronouncing your name properly.
00:32:40.230 --> 00:32:51.149 Linda Marsanico: He says, pain can actually be a learning experience for growth and development. It takes a special skill to use it that way absolutely. Harris thanks so much for your comment.
00:32:51.630 --> 00:32:59.439 Linda Marsanico: And Sam back to what you were saying about. There's only one of us. All of us are one.
00:32:59.860 --> 00:33:01.340 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Yeah, I mean.
00:33:01.370 --> 00:33:04.489 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: I wouldn't. We're we're
00:33:04.690 --> 00:33:08.990 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: we're all a part of nature, right? The one human race.
00:33:09.150 --> 00:33:12.250 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: But we are individuals, we are.
00:33:12.730 --> 00:33:14.669 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And and you know the
00:33:14.780 --> 00:33:20.859 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: the latest sort of theoretical physicists are talking about how consciousness preceded matter.
00:33:20.970 --> 00:33:32.050 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And so we are the unfoldment of consciousness in a multitude of different ways, experiencing life in all the variety of different facets
00:33:32.580 --> 00:33:34.030 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: that we can.
00:33:35.760 --> 00:33:39.219 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: So I mean, Linda, you're you. I'm me.
00:33:39.850 --> 00:33:42.430 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: We have different experiences in life.
00:33:43.150 --> 00:33:45.410 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: But that doesn't mean we're not connected.
00:33:45.850 --> 00:33:46.560 Linda Marsanico: Right.
00:33:46.560 --> 00:33:51.039 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Right, and I'm sure you've even had experiences in your own life where?
00:33:51.905 --> 00:33:55.900 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: You felt very connected to someone
00:33:55.960 --> 00:33:58.210 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: who you didn't even know that. Well.
00:34:00.670 --> 00:34:01.640 Linda Marsanico: I have.
00:34:02.220 --> 00:34:04.320 Linda Marsanico: I've had energy.
00:34:05.830 --> 00:34:09.119 Linda Marsanico: Strike me as I was passing, someone.
00:34:10.423 --> 00:34:12.159 Linda Marsanico: I think we were
00:34:12.529 --> 00:34:14.989 Linda Marsanico: acquainted in other lifetimes.
00:34:15.510 --> 00:34:17.480 Linda Marsanico: Just that recognition.
00:34:17.719 --> 00:34:20.469 Linda Marsanico: and I remember shaking
00:34:22.230 --> 00:34:27.049 Linda Marsanico: Greg Braden's hand at a book signing, and I got a shock.
00:34:27.219 --> 00:34:33.109 Linda Marsanico: and I thought we've had an acquaintance before, or of course I do believe that all
00:34:33.159 --> 00:34:39.349 Linda Marsanico: lifetimes are happening now. So it's all happening as we speak. In my opinion.
00:34:40.221 --> 00:34:43.940 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Yeah, I I've I've met people who.
00:34:44.239 --> 00:34:48.830 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Yeah, I remember years ago I met someone who I joked around with him
00:34:48.840 --> 00:34:54.180 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: the 1st time we met as if we had known each other our whole lives, and I had just met the person.
00:34:55.060 --> 00:34:57.720 Linda Marsanico: It's a beautiful interchange.
00:34:57.720 --> 00:35:03.450 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Yeah. And he and he and he responded perfectly in in the same thing. So
00:35:04.110 --> 00:35:07.170 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: there's often that kind of connection, isn't there?
00:35:08.140 --> 00:35:12.099 Linda Marsanico: yes. And I find that with a lot of love in my heart.
00:35:12.340 --> 00:35:14.460 Linda Marsanico: I can look upon others
00:35:15.450 --> 00:35:17.150 Linda Marsanico: with a lot of
00:35:18.450 --> 00:35:25.010 Linda Marsanico: certainly compassion, but I feel like they're part of my existence, I mean in an everyday experience.
00:35:25.470 --> 00:35:26.770 Linda Marsanico: care about them.
00:35:26.970 --> 00:35:30.027 Linda Marsanico: and and that that feels very light. And
00:35:31.560 --> 00:35:32.929 Linda Marsanico: Uplifting to me.
00:35:33.280 --> 00:35:34.286 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Yeah, yes.
00:35:34.890 --> 00:35:45.269 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: you know, there is the theory that we all chose to be here that we chose this life, that we chose our parents our situation.
00:35:45.340 --> 00:35:47.270 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: So if we chose it.
00:35:47.870 --> 00:35:55.100 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: why are we judging it? Why are we making it wrong or bad? We chose to be here at this time.
00:35:55.780 --> 00:36:06.220 Linda Marsanico: I do believe that to be so, and I do believe we knew it would be a challenge. And I think maybe people are reacting because we forget that we chose to come in.
00:36:06.220 --> 00:36:07.000 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Right.
00:36:07.000 --> 00:36:12.809 Linda Marsanico: You easily forget that. And you know life is a challenge. As you said before, there's pain.
00:36:13.210 --> 00:36:22.939 Linda Marsanico: and it's how we move that pain forward, and, as Harris was saying, it takes a special skill. It takes, wanting like an intention to move forward.
00:36:23.490 --> 00:36:25.210 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Yes, absolutely.
00:36:25.210 --> 00:36:31.340 Linda Marsanico: Just something I mention in my book. It's 1 of the the tips to moving ahead on the spiritual path.
00:36:31.910 --> 00:36:32.630 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Yeah.
00:36:34.430 --> 00:36:42.780 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Yeah. So I wonder? Like, I don't know if I should ask this question or not. But like, is there some kind of pain that you've been through
00:36:42.800 --> 00:36:51.229 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: that. Now you look back on it, and you can see it as being a great gift that you didn't see it as being such a gift when you were experiencing it.
00:36:51.790 --> 00:36:55.830 Linda Marsanico: Well, I got married and had a child at a very young age.
00:36:56.030 --> 00:36:59.600 Linda Marsanico: and that was extremely challenging.
00:37:00.780 --> 00:37:01.840 Linda Marsanico: and
00:37:01.980 --> 00:37:05.669 Linda Marsanico: what it did was allow me to
00:37:07.180 --> 00:37:08.930 Linda Marsanico: get to this point.
00:37:09.020 --> 00:37:10.759 Linda Marsanico: because I knew that
00:37:11.270 --> 00:37:20.879 Linda Marsanico: spiritually that I wanted to be on. I think I told you the 1st time I met you. I wanted to be on radio for the rest for all of my life. But I had to work through
00:37:20.960 --> 00:37:22.140 Linda Marsanico: Karma.
00:37:22.660 --> 00:37:29.580 Linda Marsanico: other experiences to to move through this so that I could actually be here and not be
00:37:29.850 --> 00:37:31.920 Linda Marsanico: unhappy and
00:37:32.710 --> 00:37:35.340 Linda Marsanico: resentful that
00:37:35.570 --> 00:37:40.499 Linda Marsanico: some of my adolescence was occupied with being a mother and a wife
00:37:42.290 --> 00:37:47.270 Linda Marsanico: like that. So it worked well for me, because it allowed me to know
00:37:47.820 --> 00:37:49.550 Linda Marsanico: what pain is.
00:37:50.170 --> 00:37:59.370 Linda Marsanico: so that I could share my journey and have compassion, and I have lots of compassion. So I think that that's what happens. What happened to me.
00:37:59.710 --> 00:38:01.260 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Yeah, yeah.
00:38:01.520 --> 00:38:02.970 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: yeah, it it it.
00:38:03.350 --> 00:38:10.479 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: It tends to be a lot easier to have compassion for someone else going through pain when we've gone through our own pain.
00:38:10.690 --> 00:38:11.360 Linda Marsanico: Yes.
00:38:11.740 --> 00:38:18.389 Linda Marsanico: our heart, Quan Yin, through the person who channels her, says that as we we
00:38:18.900 --> 00:38:20.880 Linda Marsanico: face these challenges and are.
00:38:20.940 --> 00:38:24.349 Linda Marsanico: energy shifts, it softens our heart.
00:38:25.060 --> 00:38:30.789 Linda Marsanico: and I'd like to think of that's a beautiful phrase. I like to think of myself as having a softened heart.
00:38:31.000 --> 00:38:32.600 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Yes, yes.
00:38:32.800 --> 00:38:37.230 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: something. I think we could all use a little more of in this world today.
00:38:38.350 --> 00:38:44.169 Linda Marsanico: I think it was Greg Braden who said that the heart beats to the pulse of the earth.
00:38:45.200 --> 00:38:59.300 Linda Marsanico: There's a heart math center in California, you know, everything starts in California. They actually measure it. And if anyone is interested you can look it up. It's a bit scientific that
00:38:59.320 --> 00:39:01.820 Linda Marsanico: really the heart beats to the pulse of the earth.
00:39:02.050 --> 00:39:05.789 Linda Marsanico: and think of what that means for
00:39:05.810 --> 00:39:10.779 Linda Marsanico: climate and Mother earth that we are moving. Mother Earth.
00:39:10.780 --> 00:39:11.550 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Hmm.
00:39:11.550 --> 00:39:12.320 Linda Marsanico: Parts.
00:39:13.460 --> 00:39:19.150 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: I actually had one of the co-founders of the Heartmath Institute on my show a couple of years ago.
00:39:19.720 --> 00:39:39.150 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And yeah, it's amazing the work that they did in the Heartmath Institute, and being able to actually measure the electromagnetic field that the heart generates, and they found that actually the field that the heart generates is like 6 times larger than the field, the electromagnetic field that the mind generates.
00:39:39.440 --> 00:39:45.470 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and you know we tend to live in a very mind dominated culture and society.
00:39:45.660 --> 00:39:50.680 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: but the heart. You actually feel much more with the heart
00:39:51.150 --> 00:39:55.770 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: than you do with the mind. You know the mind is great for figuring things out.
00:39:56.349 --> 00:40:03.359 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: But the heart is is truly a magnificent aspect to tap into.
00:40:05.070 --> 00:40:07.319 Linda Marsanico: And I think that as
00:40:08.070 --> 00:40:10.589 Linda Marsanico: we celebrate love and compassion.
00:40:10.940 --> 00:40:18.180 Linda Marsanico: for example, we have interactions every day we have interactions with people, and sometimes they are challenging.
00:40:18.720 --> 00:40:23.550 Linda Marsanico: So instead of blaming the other person, this is grist for the mill of growth
00:40:24.190 --> 00:40:25.630 Linda Marsanico: for me to say.
00:40:25.690 --> 00:40:27.610 Linda Marsanico: what does it say about me?
00:40:27.630 --> 00:40:29.929 Linda Marsanico: And what can I learn about myself?
00:40:30.690 --> 00:40:37.319 Linda Marsanico: And as I asked those questions, you talked about the journey within, indeed, it's a journey within
00:40:38.100 --> 00:40:45.610 Linda Marsanico: to understand ourselves, to love ourselves, because if I have to face that, I'm irritable sometimes, or I'm not so
00:40:45.670 --> 00:40:48.499 Linda Marsanico: amenable to this or that.
00:40:48.570 --> 00:40:51.170 Linda Marsanico: it helps me to heal that.
00:40:51.830 --> 00:40:53.389 Linda Marsanico: and to reach the
00:40:54.700 --> 00:40:56.080 Linda Marsanico: the
00:40:56.200 --> 00:41:02.420 Linda Marsanico: core of love within me. I'm just looking at our time, and just wanting to sure. Be sure that everything is
00:41:02.690 --> 00:41:03.790 Linda Marsanico: we are we good.
00:41:03.960 --> 00:41:04.359 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Give me a minute.
00:41:04.360 --> 00:41:06.839 Linda Marsanico: Have to take. But we're okay. We have a few minutes.
00:41:07.286 --> 00:41:09.710 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Yeah. And and just that thing about.
00:41:10.300 --> 00:41:12.919 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: you know, other people
00:41:13.260 --> 00:41:19.890 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and and and how we interact and being triggered by other people. I actually recently wrote a blog post around projections.
00:41:20.090 --> 00:41:20.720 Linda Marsanico: Hmm.
00:41:20.720 --> 00:41:30.609 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And how really, whenever there's something about somebody else that really triggers us, that causes an emotional reaction within us.
00:41:30.980 --> 00:41:37.170 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: it's really about something within ourselves that either we don't want to see we don't like.
00:41:37.540 --> 00:41:40.760 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: or something within ourselves that we're denying.
00:41:41.480 --> 00:41:44.040 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: I agree. And and and so
00:41:44.480 --> 00:41:48.460 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: it's it's all about us. It's not about them.
00:41:48.480 --> 00:41:54.399 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: So when somebody is there triggering us and causing us to feel uncomfortable in some way
00:41:54.580 --> 00:42:04.669 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: it absolutely is is a signal that like. There's some work here for me. There's something here that's unresolved or unloved.
00:42:04.710 --> 00:42:09.839 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: or unconscious that I need to shine some light onto.
00:42:11.040 --> 00:42:18.289 Linda Marsanico: And I believe that universe sends these situations our way not to punish us, but to help us all.
00:42:18.350 --> 00:42:22.919 Linda Marsanico: It's we're here. We're in the 3rd dimension. It's dense, it's
00:42:23.290 --> 00:42:25.339 Linda Marsanico: filled with fear, and it's
00:42:25.580 --> 00:42:27.539 Linda Marsanico: a wonderful petri dish.
00:42:27.780 --> 00:42:28.340 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Yes.
00:42:28.410 --> 00:42:32.069 Linda Marsanico: Our spiritual, emotional mental growth.
00:42:32.350 --> 00:42:33.220 Linda Marsanico: Yes.
00:42:33.590 --> 00:42:40.519 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Yes, absolutely, absolutely. I'm a big believer that, like life doesn't punish us. It's not here to
00:42:40.740 --> 00:42:44.190 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: quote unquote. Teach us a lesson in a negative way.
00:42:44.760 --> 00:42:46.930 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: It's life is here
00:42:46.990 --> 00:42:51.409 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: because we choose to learn and grow and evolve.
00:42:51.770 --> 00:42:54.830 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And you know one of the things I believe that I'm
00:42:54.970 --> 00:42:57.649 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: not sure most people would agree with
00:42:57.950 --> 00:43:02.670 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: is that spirit and consciousness is evolving as we evolve.
00:43:02.920 --> 00:43:06.630 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: that it's not like this static
00:43:06.980 --> 00:43:11.899 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: thing that that just is and is exactly the way it is
00:43:11.940 --> 00:43:24.299 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: for all eternity. But it's something that is growing and evolving and changing as as we, as manifestations of consciousness, are growing and evolving and changing.
00:43:25.470 --> 00:43:27.200 Linda Marsanico: Do you know what I suspect?
00:43:27.410 --> 00:43:27.910 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Hmm.
00:43:27.910 --> 00:43:32.480 Linda Marsanico: Suspect that consciousness is actually creator.
00:43:33.500 --> 00:43:43.329 Linda Marsanico: And when you said before that, and I hadn't heard this, and I thought about this, I was of this opinion for some time that consciousness preceded matter.
00:43:43.880 --> 00:43:46.009 Linda Marsanico: Isn't that so very interesting?
00:43:46.260 --> 00:43:46.920 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Yes.
00:43:46.920 --> 00:43:50.050 Linda Marsanico: Just something for people to think about, whether you can
00:43:50.250 --> 00:43:58.489 Linda Marsanico: wrap your mind around it, disagree with it, agree with it. You can certainly write into us as we continue.
00:43:59.770 --> 00:44:02.310 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. It's
00:44:02.720 --> 00:44:07.920 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: it's sort of what are the implications of consciousness precedes matter.
00:44:08.360 --> 00:44:20.619 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: then matter is an outgrowth of consciousness, not the other way around, and for so long scientists have been looking for like, what's the part of the brain that generates consciousness? And how is consciousness generated?
00:44:21.850 --> 00:44:23.610 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And maybe
00:44:23.840 --> 00:44:28.750 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: consciousness isn't generated. Maybe consciousness generates matter.
00:44:28.980 --> 00:44:29.400 Linda Marsanico: Fabulous.
00:44:29.400 --> 00:44:38.069 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Maybe the brain is a receiver of consciousness, a temporary housing of consciousness. It's not the creator of consciousness.
00:44:40.280 --> 00:44:42.520 Linda Marsanico: Wonderful thoughts we're sharing.
00:44:44.800 --> 00:44:45.420 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Yep.
00:44:48.650 --> 00:44:51.879 Linda Marsanico: I'm a little distracted because we have a minute to break.
00:44:53.200 --> 00:44:56.500 Linda Marsanico: I wanted to tell a quick story about love. I have
00:44:56.720 --> 00:44:59.220 Linda Marsanico: time to tell it. I have this in my book.
00:44:59.700 --> 00:45:00.880 Linda Marsanico: and it's about
00:45:01.180 --> 00:45:03.520 Linda Marsanico: a situation where I was living in a condo.
00:45:04.190 --> 00:45:10.490 Linda Marsanico: The people on the 3rd floor got pregnant, and put their baby carriage. When the baby was born in front of my door.
00:45:10.830 --> 00:45:19.859 Linda Marsanico: I asked them, Would you please move the carriage here, or put the carriage on the steps going up there were several vestibules. They refused.
00:45:20.470 --> 00:45:23.019 Linda Marsanico: I talked to each of the parents separately.
00:45:23.030 --> 00:45:24.170 Linda Marsanico: Nothing.
00:45:24.180 --> 00:45:27.719 Linda Marsanico: and because I was so angry I didn't even offer
00:45:28.000 --> 00:45:36.060 Linda Marsanico: to suggest that I could help them with the carriage. If they put it here, I could move it to one of the vestibules. We were in conflict for months.
00:45:37.450 --> 00:45:40.729 Linda Marsanico: and I think an angel whispered in my ear.
00:45:41.400 --> 00:45:44.390 Linda Marsanico: and I began to say, I am a Bodhisattva.
00:45:44.970 --> 00:45:45.630 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Which is.
00:45:45.630 --> 00:45:59.920 Linda Marsanico: Person on the path to enlightenment. I'm not enlightened, but I'm on the path. I am a Bodhisattva. I am a Bodhisattva. I said it. I am a Bodhisattva again. Every time I came in from work I see the carriage. I am a Bodhisattva. I am a Bodhisattva.
00:46:00.970 --> 00:46:02.639 Linda Marsanico: and they moved the carriage.
00:46:03.030 --> 00:46:03.710 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Hmm.
00:46:04.690 --> 00:46:09.389 Linda Marsanico: And my interpretation is that they felt the loving energy.
00:46:10.570 --> 00:46:21.709 Linda Marsanico: And I see love as a catalyst, as an awesome vibration that opens doors. Mystics write about it, so we'll conclude this part of the show
00:46:21.850 --> 00:46:23.500 Linda Marsanico: with love.
00:46:23.900 --> 00:46:26.960 Linda Marsanico: and come back to read a comment
00:46:27.110 --> 00:46:29.339 Linda Marsanico: from one of our listeners.
00:46:29.500 --> 00:46:31.200 Linda Marsanico: so we'll take it away.
00:48:38.750 --> 00:48:40.210 Linda Marsanico: Hi! Everyone!
00:48:40.540 --> 00:48:53.409 Linda Marsanico: Welcome back to the A. Train to Sedona, and I want to read another comment from Patty Brand. Yes, she said, I had to set boundaries due to the atmosphere since 11 5.
00:48:53.580 --> 00:48:55.170 Linda Marsanico: I hear you, Patty.
00:48:55.710 --> 00:48:58.319 Linda Marsanico: we need to be around people who uplift us.
00:48:59.040 --> 00:49:01.260 Linda Marsanico: And speaking of which
00:49:01.490 --> 00:49:05.280 Linda Marsanico: I would like to say something about assertion, Sam.
00:49:05.280 --> 00:49:06.280 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Hmm.
00:49:06.490 --> 00:49:13.770 Linda Marsanico: Because I was talking to someone about compassion. My book is all about love and compassion, and she said, assertion goes with compassion.
00:49:14.580 --> 00:49:21.490 Linda Marsanico: So I want to define it as saying that assertion means getting my needs met while respecting the rights of others.
00:49:22.140 --> 00:49:22.520 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Man.
00:49:22.520 --> 00:49:24.919 Linda Marsanico: Assertium allows me to
00:49:26.880 --> 00:49:40.290 Linda Marsanico: dissolve anger or diffuse it. So it doesn't have to build up. It allows me to say who I am. It allows me to announce what I need now. Of course it doesn't mean that I'm going to get what I need every time I'm assertive.
00:49:40.480 --> 00:49:41.160 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Right.
00:49:41.280 --> 00:49:50.689 Linda Marsanico: But at least my voice is heard, and I'm true to myself, with my family and friends. Now there are times that when I'm assertive. I don't get what I want.
00:49:50.690 --> 00:49:51.150 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Hmm.
00:49:51.190 --> 00:50:00.140 Linda Marsanico: Times that I could give that to myself like going out to dinner by myself if someone's not available or looking within. If there's
00:50:00.950 --> 00:50:03.220 Linda Marsanico: an inner child who needs
00:50:04.050 --> 00:50:06.779 Linda Marsanico: some attention. I might consider that.
00:50:07.190 --> 00:50:20.140 Linda Marsanico: And I wanted to share sometimes that also we get flak. You know, we have to be prepared to get Flack when we're assertive with families, members, and friends who might want us to be the way we've been.
00:50:20.540 --> 00:50:21.160 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Right.
00:50:21.280 --> 00:50:28.390 Linda Marsanico: So, being assertive means being a little uncomfortable until it gets into practice. And I wanted to tell a story about
00:50:28.800 --> 00:50:30.840 Linda Marsanico: my father when he was alive.
00:50:32.460 --> 00:50:33.450 Linda Marsanico: And Sedona.
00:50:34.540 --> 00:50:37.409 Linda Marsanico: I was going to Sedona twice yearly
00:50:37.500 --> 00:50:38.750 Linda Marsanico: on retreat
00:50:38.860 --> 00:50:40.440 Linda Marsanico: with my group.
00:50:40.930 --> 00:50:45.030 Linda Marsanico: and on this one trip it was planned for father's day.
00:50:46.690 --> 00:50:49.580 Linda Marsanico: Now the other women had deceased fathers.
00:50:49.720 --> 00:50:54.039 Linda Marsanico: and it was always my custom to spend father's day with my father.
00:50:54.370 --> 00:51:05.189 Linda Marsanico: I felt, when I thought about wanting to be in Sedona. I felt guilty, so I had to say to myself, Don't act from guilt, I really do not
00:51:05.960 --> 00:51:07.750 Linda Marsanico: often apt from guilt.
00:51:07.950 --> 00:51:09.789 Linda Marsanico: and I said to myself.
00:51:10.040 --> 00:51:11.850 Linda Marsanico: I do want to go to Sedona.
00:51:12.420 --> 00:51:12.879 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: But I have to.
00:51:12.880 --> 00:51:13.939 Linda Marsanico: Tell him.
00:51:15.010 --> 00:51:22.629 Linda Marsanico: and I was, I remember, where I was, my sister's house, probably for mother's day. We were grilling food on the deck.
00:51:22.840 --> 00:51:26.940 Linda Marsanico: I said, Dad, I can't be with you on father's day. I'm going to Sedona
00:51:27.180 --> 00:51:28.489 Linda Marsanico: with my group.
00:51:28.780 --> 00:51:30.000 Linda Marsanico: and he said.
00:51:30.410 --> 00:51:33.270 Linda Marsanico: Oh, always somebody's always missing.
00:51:38.060 --> 00:51:39.999 Linda Marsanico: and made it easy for me.
00:51:40.000 --> 00:51:40.750 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Yeah.
00:51:40.750 --> 00:51:44.300 Linda Marsanico: And then I had a dinner for him and my mother a week before I left, and.
00:51:46.980 --> 00:51:54.729 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: yeah, isn't it funny how the mind projects out like, oh, he's going to be upset or, oh, this isn't gonna work out, or whatever
00:51:55.275 --> 00:52:05.590 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and and it and it. And we think of all the negative ways that people might respond to stuff. And then, when we actually speak up for our needs
00:52:06.100 --> 00:52:10.929 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: not all the time, but many times. It's not the reaction we expected.
00:52:11.200 --> 00:52:13.739 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and that when we can have that little bit of
00:52:13.990 --> 00:52:23.650 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: flexibility and thought of like. Why does it always have to be when the calendar says it's father's day? Why can't we celebrate it a week before a month before.
00:52:23.890 --> 00:52:40.599 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: you know, I many times when I've had my birthday, and I'd be like let's celebrate it, you know. A week before, a week after, 2 weeks, after a month after, you know. Why does it have to be so stuck? Why, why do we have to be so rigid?
00:52:40.670 --> 00:52:49.359 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And isn't it interesting? How much when we're not rigid. Things open up and flow for us that much better.
00:52:50.270 --> 00:52:51.460 Linda Marsanico: He really
00:52:51.610 --> 00:52:53.629 Linda Marsanico: open things up for me with his?
00:52:55.030 --> 00:52:56.860 Linda Marsanico: He was very gracious.
00:52:57.110 --> 00:53:03.069 Linda Marsanico: He was an old-fashioned Italian male, who really wanted his family all around him.
00:53:03.380 --> 00:53:04.220 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Hmm.
00:53:04.220 --> 00:53:04.729 Linda Marsanico: It's
00:53:06.190 --> 00:53:09.430 Linda Marsanico: Very gracious regarding this situation.
00:53:09.590 --> 00:53:11.380 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Wonderful, wonderful.
00:53:12.280 --> 00:53:13.659 Linda Marsanico: Have you had any
00:53:15.230 --> 00:53:18.799 Linda Marsanico: bouts with assertion that you want to share with our listeners.
00:53:21.160 --> 00:53:26.879 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Lots of them, because for me, being assertive, was always very challenging.
00:53:29.410 --> 00:53:33.430 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and it was kind of funny I used to work with this one mentor.
00:53:33.890 --> 00:53:36.099 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: who was extremely aggressive.
00:53:36.490 --> 00:53:37.630 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And
00:53:38.150 --> 00:53:44.059 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: you know I learned a lot from him. But we just we were like oil and water. We just never really mixed.
00:53:44.950 --> 00:53:51.410 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And so then I went to the person in charge of mentors. And I was like, I can't work with this guy anymore. I want to work with someone else.
00:53:51.950 --> 00:54:06.850 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and she's like, Well, who do you want to work with? And I go well, I want to work with this guy, Anthony. I've known him for 10 years. We we know each other, we we have a good relationship. He's in New Jersey. He's not far away. It just makes sense. And she's like, at 1st she was like, No.
00:54:06.950 --> 00:54:08.899 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: it's like, Okay, who's number 2?
00:54:08.960 --> 00:54:11.979 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And I was like, Oh, well, maybe this person
00:54:12.000 --> 00:54:13.080 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: says, okay.
00:54:13.630 --> 00:54:20.459 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: So then afterwards I contact Anthony, I say, Hey, I talked to the woman, and and she said, No, and he says.
00:54:20.610 --> 00:54:22.150 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Let Let me talk to her.
00:54:23.010 --> 00:54:24.230 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: I'm like, okay.
00:54:25.010 --> 00:54:30.299 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And so he talks to her. I don't know what he says to her. And then she said, Okay, you can work with Anthony.
00:54:31.880 --> 00:54:33.870 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and I was like great.
00:54:34.170 --> 00:54:38.570 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And then I didn't find out until many months afterwards.
00:54:38.630 --> 00:54:54.649 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: What did he do? He used reverse psychology on her. He said to her, oh, no, I can't work with Sam. No? Oh, come on, Anthony, we need to. No, no, I can't work with him. Well, okay, if you really want me to work with him. I'll work with, you know. So he really wanted to work with me. But he.
00:54:54.890 --> 00:54:56.769 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: you know, pretended that he did it.
00:54:57.170 --> 00:54:57.990 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: But
00:54:58.170 --> 00:55:04.579 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: the the point of the story is, I spoke up for my needs, and I finally said, I can't work with this other guy.
00:55:05.130 --> 00:55:11.679 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and this is who I wanted to work with, and even though initially, I got a no, I went back to the guy and I said, Hey, I gotta know.
00:55:12.270 --> 00:55:13.790 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Can you do something?
00:55:14.010 --> 00:55:23.550 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: So it was speaking up for my needs. And then eventually, things worked out. And now I'm I'm just so grateful that that things did work out with that way. I've been working with Anthony now for
00:55:23.720 --> 00:55:25.440 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: about 2 and a half years.
00:55:26.170 --> 00:55:30.910 Linda Marsanico: And the relationship, I would imagine, is such a close one. You'd have to have a simpatico.
00:55:31.100 --> 00:55:39.440 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Right, right and just the community has around him of connected with the people so much to really dear friends.
00:55:39.480 --> 00:55:44.620 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and went with him for the 1st time down to Peru last year. That was an amazing experience.
00:55:44.650 --> 00:55:51.490 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: But it's interesting, you know. We tend to be a little bit timid, a little bit shy about speaking up for our needs.
00:55:51.650 --> 00:55:58.480 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: But once we do, you know, it doesn't like you said doesn't always happen automatically, doesn't always happen perfectly.
00:55:59.340 --> 00:56:05.229 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: But the more we do it, and the more we speak up for our needs from a place of love.
00:56:06.520 --> 00:56:09.839 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: the more often things actually work out
00:56:10.280 --> 00:56:12.370 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: in the way. That's best for us.
00:56:12.980 --> 00:56:13.740 Linda Marsanico: And it's
00:56:14.040 --> 00:56:17.060 Linda Marsanico: part of the recipe for creating self-love.
00:56:17.780 --> 00:56:18.500 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Right.
00:56:18.770 --> 00:56:21.010 Linda Marsanico: To announce what we need, and to
00:56:21.170 --> 00:56:21.750 Linda Marsanico: right.
00:56:21.750 --> 00:56:24.769 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Because when we value ourselves and we love ourselves.
00:56:25.380 --> 00:56:26.470 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: why wouldn't we.
00:56:26.860 --> 00:56:27.460 Linda Marsanico: Right.
00:56:28.020 --> 00:56:31.539 Linda Marsanico: A lot of us grow up with unassertive families.
00:56:31.630 --> 00:56:35.889 Linda Marsanico: and so we have to turn that around which could be quite a task.
00:56:36.130 --> 00:56:39.229 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Or or in families that that
00:56:39.864 --> 00:56:48.759 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: don't like assertiveness, that push it away. And so we're kind of taught from a young age that being assertive is bad.
00:56:49.200 --> 00:56:57.530 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: you know, or sometimes we grow up in families where being assertive is good. And then we're over assertive. And we're assertive about everything, and then there's no balance there.
00:56:57.580 --> 00:57:02.660 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: To me. It's it's always about being mindful.
00:57:03.150 --> 00:57:13.579 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and and balance is a tricky word, because you even need to be balanced about being balanced, which means that sometimes you go to extremes, but it's doing it in an appropriate manner.
00:57:14.350 --> 00:57:14.960 Linda Marsanico: Yeah.
00:57:15.550 --> 00:57:18.750 Linda Marsanico: it's good to have a sense of humor, too, Sam.
00:57:19.070 --> 00:57:22.420 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Absolutely well, it looks like we only got about a minute left of the show.
00:57:22.420 --> 00:57:25.480 Linda Marsanico: Yes, I thank you for being my guest.
00:57:25.920 --> 00:57:29.119 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: My pleasure, my pleasure. Thank you for having me on the show.
00:57:29.810 --> 00:57:31.449 Linda Marsanico: It's been a lovely
00:57:32.480 --> 00:57:33.900 Linda Marsanico: conversation.
00:57:34.240 --> 00:57:38.980 Linda Marsanico: and I'm glad to share everyday awakening with our listeners.
00:57:38.990 --> 00:57:42.619 Linda Marsanico: I'm glad to share the a train to Sedona
00:57:42.870 --> 00:57:45.080 Linda Marsanico: book title with our listeners.
00:57:45.630 --> 00:57:50.160 Linda Marsanico: And is there anything else you want to say to our listeners before we close.
00:57:50.550 --> 00:58:13.000 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Well, just to remember, if you like hearing me as a guest, you can always hear my own show on talkradio dot nyc. On noon on Thursdays, just a day later, just like a little less than 24 h from now you can hear my own show. I have wonderful great guests, and this week I have a wonderful guest, Callie Alpert, who actually used to be a host on the network.
00:58:13.070 --> 00:58:29.570 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: who's doing some very interesting stuff. You would probably like her to. I'll connect you with her. But yeah, and check out all we have amazing shows here on the network@talkradio.nyc. So I highly encourage you to check out all the shows that you hear during little commercial breaks.
00:58:29.900 --> 00:58:39.670 Linda Marsanico: Thank you, Sam, and I want to say, next week my guest will be deepak. Sanny, who helps clients optimize mental, physical and financial performance.
00:58:40.360 --> 00:58:42.200 Linda Marsanico: Parting is such sweet sorrow.
00:58:43.180 --> 00:58:44.680 Linda Marsanico: See you soon.
00:58:45.330 --> 00:58:46.350 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Take care, everyone.
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