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EPISODE SUMMARY:
The audience will hear about Ben Lytle's second book in The Potentialist series all focused on The Pursuit of Wisdom.
Ben Lytle, a Fortune 500 CEO, serial entrepreneur, and author, guides you on an uplifting journey to unleash your potential and accelerate decision-making wisdom crucial during this transformative period in human history.
Ben Lytle returns to Frank About Health to discuss his views in his 2nd book of The Potentialist series: The Pursuit of Wisdom. We begin with a review of the new reality we face in the next 30 years, including Health Care in the AI revolution while we understand Our Place In This World while approaching our Human Potential. Ben Lytle understands that Healthcare is a movement that we can manage through with Intention and Higher Consciousness.
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00:00:49.670 --> 00:01:07.969 Frank R. Harrison: Hey, everybody, and welcome to a very special episode of Frank about health right here on Halloween. That's right. It is October 31, st 2024. And the reason why I'm specifying 2024 is because 2 years ago, around this time, today's guest was on this show promoting his 1st book.
00:01:08.140 --> 00:01:09.810 Frank R. Harrison: The Potentialist.
00:01:11.120 --> 00:01:30.139 Frank R. Harrison: your future in the new reality of the next 30 years. For those of you who've seen Frank about health since that airing you have seen the way I've tailor made various episodes of Frank about health during the 2 years after that experience, trying to be in touch with the new reality in a post-covid world.
00:01:30.210 --> 00:01:53.430 Frank R. Harrison: at the same time understanding the influence that AI has in healthcare and its potential for the future, and simultaneously looking at all the various healthcare stories that I have shared, both from self-reflection and at the same time from coming with very controversially oriented stories with the various guests I've had since Ben Lytle's 1st appearance.
00:01:53.950 --> 00:01:56.970 Frank R. Harrison: But now we're here to introduce his second book.
00:01:57.030 --> 00:01:59.229 Frank R. Harrison: It's also called The Potentialist.
00:01:59.540 --> 00:02:01.600 Frank R. Harrison: the Pursuit of wisdom.
00:02:02.550 --> 00:02:14.150 Frank R. Harrison: Now that's what we're going to devote most of this show on the second book I figured I wanted to give everyone a refresher. As to Ben Lytle, his experience in the potentialist series.
00:02:14.170 --> 00:02:32.620 Frank R. Harrison: Yes, there will be a 3rd book, probably in another 2 years or so, but at the same time I have to do him the honor of providing his professional background because he is an influencer. He's an advocate. He's a serial entrepreneur, and he's definitely been very inspiring to myself.
00:02:32.760 --> 00:02:40.070 Frank R. Harrison: And so for that reason alone I'm so excited. This is a real treat for me on Halloween. So this is Mr. Ben Lytle.
00:02:40.240 --> 00:02:54.210 Frank R. Harrison: a fortune 500 CEO serial entrepreneur and author who guides you on an uplifting journey to unleash your potential and accelerate decision-making wisdom crucial during this transformative period in human history.
00:02:55.120 --> 00:03:04.110 Frank R. Harrison: I've already explained why he's returned. It's to promote his second book, and we're going to really learn about that book. During this show I will issue my usual disclaimer
00:03:04.190 --> 00:03:11.559 Frank R. Harrison: again. These are the views of Ben Lytle, not the views of Frank about health or talkradio Dot, Nyc.
00:03:11.800 --> 00:03:15.180 Frank R. Harrison: I can only hope that what you will hear in the next
00:03:15.370 --> 00:03:19.589 Frank R. Harrison: 45 min to an hour will be inspiring as it has been. For myself.
00:03:19.630 --> 00:03:26.940 Frank R. Harrison: we're going to learn not only where we left off in understanding the role that technology has played in the new reality
00:03:27.010 --> 00:03:34.820 Frank R. Harrison: of the healthcare system. But we're also going to learn about wisdom and how we use those gifts within ourselves
00:03:35.190 --> 00:03:41.799 Frank R. Harrison: to be able to be up to par with the way everything is going to evolve in the next couple decades.
00:03:42.080 --> 00:03:43.080 Frank R. Harrison: So
00:03:43.210 --> 00:04:06.950 Frank R. Harrison: that's basically my disclaimer. I just figure I want to be frank about your appearance today and forthright about how the information is left to everyone's own individual interpretation, and not to be taken as anything misleading or misrepresentative of the facts that you've been outlining, especially in your second book, so that, all being, said, Ben, welcome back to Frank about health.
00:04:07.620 --> 00:04:10.129 Ben Lytle: Thank you, Frank. Glad to be here.
00:04:10.410 --> 00:04:14.700 Frank R. Harrison: So why don't you tell me a little bit of a retrospective on
00:04:14.800 --> 00:04:21.049 Frank R. Harrison: what your 1st book was about, and how it led you to start your second book on the Pursuit of Wisdom.
00:04:21.440 --> 00:04:30.650 Ben Lytle: Yeah, this, this entire book series, this potentialist book series came about started about 10 years ago.
00:04:30.680 --> 00:04:58.390 Ben Lytle: when, since I've always been a Futurist, always followed human potential, both collectively and individually, interviewed hundreds of people that I considered to be wise to try to build a character profile of what makes a wise person, and I began to realize that this world that was unfolding, which I call the new reality
00:04:58.470 --> 00:05:01.059 Ben Lytle: is going to affect everything
00:05:01.070 --> 00:05:03.369 Ben Lytle: it's going to affect, how we learn
00:05:03.720 --> 00:05:05.109 Ben Lytle: how we work.
00:05:05.260 --> 00:05:31.010 Ben Lytle: how we live, and even how we evolve as human beings. And and I realized that most people just had no idea what was coming they weren't thinking about, and it wasn't, wasn't because people don't care. But they're busy. They're incredibly busy, and and they don't have time to think beyond a few steps in front of them. And I thought, You know, this is something 1st of all I wanted to do for my own family.
00:05:31.080 --> 00:05:46.609 Ben Lytle: And so I started out with this for my just, my family and friends. And then I was encouraged to publish it. This book series. So the 1st book basically describes this new reality and what's causing it
00:05:46.830 --> 00:06:01.559 Ben Lytle: and and what's causing it is a convergence of change. Forces like changing demography, you know, fewer people living longer, like democratization, which creates many choices for us
00:06:01.660 --> 00:06:24.449 Ben Lytle: like distance shrinking in its importance in our lives. And those are 4 change forces. And then, on the other side. These powerful new technologies, like nothing we've ever seen, like artificial intelligence, brain science, neuroimaging and brain mapping, figuring out for the 1st time what parts of our brain do, what?
00:06:24.460 --> 00:06:29.459 Ben Lytle: Which would allow us to connect to those parts of the brain and and send messages to it.
00:06:29.570 --> 00:06:49.989 Ben Lytle: and then quantum computing, and then, finally, the entire world within the next 5 to 8 years, having worldwide high speed communications. And that'll bring 2 billion more people actively engaged in the way the rest of us already engage a lot of our time.
00:06:50.160 --> 00:06:56.470 Ben Lytle: So those come together, and when they converge, that creates an acceleration of change
00:06:56.720 --> 00:07:05.720 Ben Lytle: and acceleration of change creates more complexity in life, more choices, faster decisions need to be made. And we're all experiencing that.
00:07:06.304 --> 00:07:13.760 Ben Lytle: So so what? That that 1st book ended with saying, Here's the new reality, and here's 7 ways
00:07:13.840 --> 00:07:23.319 Ben Lytle: that you can get ahead. Here's 7 things you can do, and you'll be ahead of the game as we go into this, and they're always there are things that have always been important to do.
00:07:23.350 --> 00:07:25.120 Ben Lytle: But now they're critical
00:07:25.390 --> 00:07:52.930 Ben Lytle: taking care of your health because you're going to live a lot longer, and you're going to go through many, many more. You're going to work longer. You're going to go through many more jobs and careers like having a greater financial reserve, because you don't have to look very hard at our at the balance sheet of our of our nation and most nations these days to realize it's not very good, and it's not prepared for the costs of aging. So we have to be more prepared as individuals. So that's the 1st book.
00:07:53.270 --> 00:07:59.470 Ben Lytle: The second book goes to the next step, and it's based on some history of who thrived
00:07:59.540 --> 00:08:01.959 Ben Lytle: in times of previous change.
00:08:02.160 --> 00:08:09.710 Ben Lytle: the Renaissance, the the enlightenment 3 and prior industrial revolutions, who thrived
00:08:09.840 --> 00:08:27.510 Ben Lytle: and they were the people who had more perspective about what was going on. They were wiser, and saw through when everyone else was scared, or panicking, or not paying any attention and hoping it would go away. They saw the opportunities, and they were very decisive
00:08:27.620 --> 00:08:40.130 Ben Lytle: and and essentially they were wise. And so I began to realize that it was. The the optimal way to adapt and thrive is to reach our potential.
00:08:40.200 --> 00:08:43.460 Ben Lytle: which I define as freedom from our ego
00:08:43.669 --> 00:08:45.290 Ben Lytle: right, and
00:08:45.410 --> 00:08:53.429 Ben Lytle: to develop our capacity for wisdom, which is the how we become wise. You can that that can be taught.
00:08:53.860 --> 00:09:07.609 Ben Lytle: And then, in the moment of decision, to be free of our ego, our biases, and our very strong emotions or instincts. They're good things.
00:09:07.620 --> 00:09:11.650 Ben Lytle: Emotions and instincts are good things, but not if they make your decisions for you.
00:09:11.820 --> 00:09:17.470 Ben Lytle: And so in that moment be free, so that we can make wiser decisions. So that's what
00:09:17.530 --> 00:09:20.049 Ben Lytle: this second book is all about.
00:09:20.330 --> 00:09:24.949 Ben Lytle: It's and it's it's essentially a synthesis
00:09:25.060 --> 00:09:27.570 Ben Lytle: of modern psychology.
00:09:29.210 --> 00:09:32.270 Ben Lytle: Classic philosophy.
00:09:32.680 --> 00:09:40.410 Ben Lytle: classical philosophy, and personal experiences, with a lot of very wise people, and seeing how they operate.
00:09:40.510 --> 00:09:43.860 Ben Lytle: and that I tried to write that in a in the language.
00:09:43.920 --> 00:09:54.899 Ben Lytle: and you've read my books. You know my books are very readable, very approachable, and write that in in layman's language, so that anyone can make it
00:09:54.960 --> 00:09:57.890 Ben Lytle: make it happen. Excuse me, I've got a cold. I'm getting over so.
00:09:57.890 --> 00:09:59.224 Frank R. Harrison: No problem, understand.
00:09:59.670 --> 00:10:04.670 Ben Lytle: And then and then also, we've created a hundred 40 page workbook.
00:10:04.770 --> 00:10:06.130 Ben Lytle: that practice
00:10:06.730 --> 00:10:25.440 Ben Lytle: book that comes along with the book itself that helps you actually on a day-to-day basis, track yourself. And in because this is a way to incrementally reach your potential, become wiser and make better decisions. And, after all, it's our decisions that define
00:10:25.510 --> 00:10:26.729 Ben Lytle: who we are.
00:10:26.880 --> 00:10:27.410 Frank R. Harrison: Right.
00:10:27.410 --> 00:10:29.330 Ben Lytle: We'll find the quality of our life
00:10:29.440 --> 00:10:45.479 Ben Lytle: and define our effect on others. And so that's the that's the end. Game is, we make better decisions throughout a longer life. And that becomes what, by the way, that is the definition of wisdom, which is the art of living well.
00:10:46.050 --> 00:10:47.739 Ben Lytle: And that's how you live. Will.
00:10:48.280 --> 00:11:07.789 Frank R. Harrison: Yes, yes, I got to say that. Obviously, when I read the 1st book 2 years ago, the big takeaway for me at that time it was Post Covid. We were still slowly edging out of it, but at the same time I looked at it as a reflection of what we've been through what I did not fully grasp until I started to read the second book last week.
00:11:07.950 --> 00:11:13.190 Frank R. Harrison: Is that now that you've got the foundation that you've outlined for us.
00:11:13.190 --> 00:11:13.840 Ben Lytle: Right.
00:11:14.410 --> 00:11:18.490 Frank R. Harrison: The second book is putting that knowledge you've just learned
00:11:18.870 --> 00:11:19.990 Frank R. Harrison: to practice.
00:11:20.190 --> 00:11:20.620 Ben Lytle: Absolute.
00:11:20.620 --> 00:11:25.870 Frank R. Harrison: I mean I can see it. I don't want to call it a manual, but it seems to be a a roadmap that you.
00:11:25.870 --> 00:11:26.200 Ben Lytle: But.
00:11:26.200 --> 00:11:29.640 Frank R. Harrison: Actually depending on the reader, interpret in your own
00:11:29.670 --> 00:11:42.190 Frank R. Harrison: perspective, and therefore start to really do what you can to make the necessary changes. To get ready for the new reality. That is, yeah, is coming fast and furious. I have already seen it in the last.
00:11:42.190 --> 00:11:49.009 Ben Lytle: And and, Frank, I I would imagine you know many of your listeners. People are watching this or listening to it.
00:11:49.090 --> 00:11:53.490 Ben Lytle: The probably very few people would be would object
00:11:53.830 --> 00:12:07.280 Ben Lytle: to if suddenly we could spread wisdom to many more people. And that and that's what democratizing something is. It's making something available to only a few people available to many and ultimately to everybody.
00:12:07.280 --> 00:12:07.630 Frank R. Harrison: Right.
00:12:07.630 --> 00:12:18.209 Ben Lytle: Probably nobody would object, because wisdom, when we think of wise people, it's the highest human achievement, I mean, our wise people are the people we revere.
00:12:18.410 --> 00:12:18.840 Frank R. Harrison: Right.
00:12:18.840 --> 00:12:23.899 Ben Lytle: What what I'm guessing people are struggling with is was, Wow! But how do you do that?
00:12:24.160 --> 00:12:26.240 Ben Lytle: How or can I do that?
00:12:26.270 --> 00:12:29.559 Ben Lytle: The answer is absolutely you can.
00:12:29.850 --> 00:12:39.369 Ben Lytle: Some of the wisest people I know are not highly educated, sophisticated people, but they're wise in the way of the world.
00:12:39.590 --> 00:13:00.079 Ben Lytle: and they have very simple lives, but they're wise in the way of the world. So anyone can learn this at any age. It's not just for age and and wisdom have a very slim correlation. They do age a little bit as you get older. I mean, you do get wiser a little bit as you get older.
00:13:00.080 --> 00:13:12.419 Ben Lytle: But we all know older people that aren't wise at all, and and on the on the other side, children, even young children. And I'm not proposing. This was a book written for children. It was a book written.
00:13:12.420 --> 00:13:13.000 Frank R. Harrison: Right.
00:13:13.000 --> 00:13:32.440 Ben Lytle: But young children can be taught certain things about wisdom, and they're surprised can be surprisingly wise. That's where the term wise beyond your years or an old soul. We say that about some child that seems to have insight at a particular point in time.
00:13:32.570 --> 00:13:48.629 Ben Lytle: So this is something that people can do, and that's, you know, one of my main messages. Most of what you need to know to do become wise. You already know you're just not using it for that purpose. And that's what this book shows you how to do.
00:13:48.960 --> 00:13:54.789 Frank R. Harrison: Exactly because I gathered the takeaway from those that are already at a certain age, and have not
00:13:54.810 --> 00:14:08.160 Frank R. Harrison: become as with as wise as their potential would would align with may have to do with their circumstances. The people they were surrounded by that maybe has to do with traumas. Maybe it has to do with
00:14:08.240 --> 00:14:12.030 Frank R. Harrison: certain lacks in education or other resources, and.
00:14:12.030 --> 00:14:14.729 Ben Lytle: Think more often. It's not. People don't know they can.
00:14:15.200 --> 00:14:29.669 Ben Lytle: you know, that's the biggest challenge is we're never taught in school, even though this has been something that's been taught for thousands of years in both the East and Western cultures. We just forgot how
00:14:29.700 --> 00:14:49.019 Ben Lytle: and we don't make it a priority. But now it's critical that it be a priority, because one of the things this new reality is going to require is for every individual, not our institutions. Every individual is going to have to make really difficult decisions unprecedented in history, unprecedented.
00:14:49.310 --> 00:15:04.460 Ben Lytle: And so where are you going to know how to do that? How you gonna know how to do it. Wise. It's not like you're going to have a 1 800 number to call. You're going to have to figure it out yourself, and this will prepare you for those decisions as well as guiding your loved ones. That's also very important.
00:15:05.250 --> 00:15:22.910 Frank R. Harrison: That, all being said, we're about to take our 1st break. But we're going to really dive into the potentialist the pursuit of wisdom when we return right here on Frank about health, which is on Talkradionyc and on our social media platforms. Youtube, Linkedin, Facebook and Twitch. Please stay tuned.
00:15:23.570 --> 00:15:24.619 Ben Lytle: You don't need to do anything.
00:15:26.290 --> 00:15:27.179 Ben Lytle: We just have done.
00:17:35.580 --> 00:17:37.380 Frank R. Harrison: Hey, everybody, and welcome back!
00:17:37.640 --> 00:17:42.070 Frank R. Harrison: Here we are with Mr. Ben Lytle talking about the potentialist
00:17:42.310 --> 00:18:03.019 Frank R. Harrison: book 2. The pursuit of wisdom. And, as you heard in the last Segment. He was talking about how it's for any adult, at any age that we all have wisdom, but that we have to, especially with the changing landscape of the next 30 years, we have to really use whatever methodologies we have within ourselves
00:18:03.020 --> 00:18:20.130 Frank R. Harrison: to be able to match up to the constant evolution and changes and choices that are evolving, not just because of the passing of Covid, but because of new technologies like AI, and because of the overall options and choices that are coming at a faster rate. More than ever.
00:18:20.684 --> 00:18:26.900 Frank R. Harrison: I have talked with you about probably technology playing a fundamental role in it. But
00:18:26.930 --> 00:18:55.019 Frank R. Harrison: prior to our having this show tonight, we did have a nice conversation on the difference between the ego and our own potential, and sometimes a struggle that we face. I mean, I gather from a philosophical perspective, which is how you wrote the book. I wanted you to spend the next 10 min or so on this segment of the show, really talking about how it is the constant struggle to really find our place in this world just like part one of your book outlines.
00:18:55.210 --> 00:19:03.110 Frank R. Harrison: Am I right in saying that part of us are dealing with that constant struggle because we're not sure of our place in this world?
00:19:03.980 --> 00:19:21.539 Ben Lytle: Yeah. And let me 1st of all set the stage a little bit Frank, when I was talking about earlier, that most people would accept. Wisdom would be a wonderful thing. They would love to be wiser themselves, they would wish it for the world. Imagine how much better the world would be.
00:19:21.610 --> 00:19:26.889 Ben Lytle: but they think well, this is impossible. I want to remind folks that
00:19:27.020 --> 00:19:36.030 Ben Lytle: we have always underestimated human beings always. We've never overestimated them. We've always underestimated
00:19:36.150 --> 00:19:39.269 Ben Lytle: 600 years ago, 700 years ago.
00:19:39.310 --> 00:19:45.820 Ben Lytle: The powers that be! The elites judged humans incapable of owning land.
00:19:45.840 --> 00:19:52.150 Ben Lytle: Why, they wouldn't take care of it. It would just go to waste. We have to tell them how to use it. So they're serfs.
00:19:52.170 --> 00:19:59.309 Ben Lytle: Then, later, why would they want to learn how to read? What would they want to know that we don't already tell them?
00:19:59.340 --> 00:20:20.670 Ben Lytle: Well, we did. Okay with that. And thanks to Mr. Gutenberg, we we got. We got a movable type printing press, and 50 years later we had 40 million books in Europe alone, when Europe didn't have that many people. And then, if you know a few 100 years later. What do you mean? Self rule.
00:20:20.780 --> 00:20:28.090 Ben Lytle: you crazy Americans! What are you talking about? Why, you can't live without a king to tell you what to do.
00:20:28.170 --> 00:20:38.730 Ben Lytle: But we did. Just fine. So so this is, this is part of what we do. And and it's now leading into the ego. Where do those thoughts come from
00:20:39.500 --> 00:20:41.250 Ben Lytle: that we can't do
00:20:42.310 --> 00:21:04.049 Ben Lytle: that comes from our ego because our ego is afraid for us to make a mistake. We are afraid to make a mistake, and so fundamental to developing your wisdom, and how your wisdom emerges is to recognize that you and your ego are not the same thing
00:21:04.760 --> 00:21:13.090 Ben Lytle: that your ego has dominated. It is one of 5 functions that essentially make up your psychology.
00:21:13.250 --> 00:21:15.290 Ben Lytle: There's the ego.
00:21:15.430 --> 00:21:20.649 Ben Lytle: the shadow which is the instinctive ancestor of the ego.
00:21:20.950 --> 00:21:42.349 Ben Lytle: your soul, which is always pointing you to do the best for the world. Its interests are the aspirations of the whole. So one way to think about the ego is. It's the aspiration of the individual and the and the soul is the aspiration of the whole. WHOL. E.
00:21:42.680 --> 00:21:43.100 Frank R. Harrison: Yes.
00:21:43.100 --> 00:21:53.079 Ben Lytle: And I'm not using here a soul in the in the religious context, I'm using it in the psychological context, which is undebatable, that it's a function.
00:21:53.260 --> 00:22:05.570 Ben Lytle: And and and then the conscience, which is like the shadow, it is the ancestor of the of the soul, and in how we evolved our psychology over time.
00:22:05.660 --> 00:22:20.010 Ben Lytle: At least, that's 1 that's 1 of the more popular theories. So so we have to learn fosteral that each one of those has a very distinctive voice, if your listeners just pause for a second, you know your ego.
00:22:20.120 --> 00:22:35.099 Ben Lytle: it says, hurry up. You got to get this done. You got to get that done. Come on, what are you doing? You don't have time to talk to your to your partner, or talk to a friend, or go have a good time. You need to do this. You need to do that. That's that fellow.
00:22:35.789 --> 00:22:45.399 Ben Lytle: And and you know your shadow because it's that ugly guy that when you wake up in the middle of the night, and you stagger to the bathroom, tells you what a miserable human being you are
00:22:46.050 --> 00:22:49.539 Ben Lytle: and what it's doing. It doesn't know that it's.
00:22:49.540 --> 00:22:50.140 Frank R. Harrison: Which we.
00:22:50.140 --> 00:22:55.520 Ben Lytle: Reflecting you the vulnerability. You feel that you haven't acknowledged
00:22:56.040 --> 00:23:14.719 Ben Lytle: very powerful. Once you understand it. That's its job is to say you feel vulnerable about this. Once you resolve that vulnerability, it goes away, and it finds something else you're not paying attention to. So that's that. That's its job. And the soul is to point us to timeless truth.
00:23:15.010 --> 00:23:40.860 Ben Lytle: time to see reality, to see the long ball, to see the picture, the long picture, and of course the conscience the one we all pretty much know, you know it's the one that sets up on your left shoulder and goes. Did you really mean to do that. How do you feel about that? We all know that? So where is the I in me, in this? And where is the real you? So when I say I in me.
00:23:41.130 --> 00:23:45.049 Ben Lytle: I'm talking about the real best you
00:23:45.100 --> 00:23:47.720 Ben Lytle: in there trying to emerge.
00:23:48.170 --> 00:23:57.370 Ben Lytle: Yeah. And and that that is the one that's listening to these guys. Did you ever ask yourself, since you're hearing these voices?
00:23:57.500 --> 00:23:58.810 Ben Lytle: Who's listening?
00:24:00.570 --> 00:24:01.220 Ben Lytle: It's an E.
00:24:01.220 --> 00:24:12.919 Frank R. Harrison: You really are. But at the same time, if you're used to living in a world where you're always making sure other people are listening to you. You can't understand it when you're by yourself.
00:24:13.130 --> 00:24:26.520 Ben Lytle: Right. Well, the the ego is dominated our conscience, for since you know for centuries, for thousands of years, actually so suddenly to realize that voice is not me. It can't be because I'm listening to it.
00:24:26.730 --> 00:24:36.819 Ben Lytle: And and that is the me that that is the real. You trying to emerge, and it emerges every time you balance those interests
00:24:36.870 --> 00:25:06.269 Ben Lytle: between, because they are opposites. The soul and the ego are opposites, the conscience and the shadow are opposites, and when you're balancing those, you have an issue, and you let's take a practical example. Let's say that you're you're out something really kind of silly. You're out, you're out, and you're you're picking up some donuts. And, man, you're really hungry, and you're about to just eat all those donuts on the way home, and you think I really should save some
00:25:06.270 --> 00:25:07.909 Ben Lytle: for the kids?
00:25:08.200 --> 00:25:11.040 Ben Lytle: Yeah, I guess I should. And so you put them back.
00:25:11.610 --> 00:25:19.710 Ben Lytle: Your I and me just guided you to a wise decision that balanced your interest. It didn't say, Don't eat any.
00:25:19.980 --> 00:25:22.510 Ben Lytle: it said. Just save some for the kids.
00:25:22.610 --> 00:25:28.020 Ben Lytle: And so you, balancing those interests was your eye and me.
00:25:28.150 --> 00:25:40.109 Ben Lytle: and every time you do that every single time it can be so small as whether you pay attention to a cashier at the local store, or you treat them as if they're non-existent.
00:25:40.320 --> 00:25:45.680 Ben Lytle: When you pay attention to them, you acknowledge them. You make them part of your humanity for a minute
00:25:45.920 --> 00:25:58.160 Ben Lytle: your I and me growth. Every time you do that it gets stronger and stronger and stronger until someday, and particularly when you're making decisions. And we're making decisions almost every moment of the day
00:25:58.230 --> 00:26:27.430 Ben Lytle: when you do that routinely, your your ego, the good ego, because you need your ego, the good part of it. That's the can do. I can do. And I do. And moving forward that I like to think of it as the explorer. You know, it's like we can, but it becomes part of you now. It's still there. But you're the negative ego of trying to control. You, work you to death, ignore everything else, ignore relationships.
00:26:27.530 --> 00:26:31.083 Ben Lytle: You push that guy in the back seat. He no longer drives.
00:26:31.635 --> 00:26:31.890 Frank R. Harrison: No.
00:26:31.890 --> 00:26:51.869 Ben Lytle: That's the important thing is, you become the driver, not the ego, and that's that's a big part. It's not all, by any means. But that's a big part of how you develop your your truce. Discover, because it's there, how you discover the real you inside, and then live that real you every day.
00:26:52.590 --> 00:27:02.549 Frank R. Harrison: You know that that's kind of interesting from the perspective of even understanding your place in this world. Not only are we always focused on having healthy boundaries and healthy relationships.
00:27:03.010 --> 00:27:08.920 Frank R. Harrison: but your ego and your potential, or that that not the shadow, the the other.
00:27:08.920 --> 00:27:09.560 Ben Lytle: Anime.
00:27:09.660 --> 00:27:10.180 Ben Lytle: the.
00:27:10.700 --> 00:27:12.359 Frank R. Harrison: Or which I notice in the book.
00:27:12.420 --> 00:27:14.680 Frank R. Harrison: becomes one word in me.
00:27:14.680 --> 00:27:15.369 Ben Lytle: We are all right.
00:27:15.370 --> 00:27:15.840 Frank R. Harrison: No.
00:27:15.840 --> 00:27:19.720 Ben Lytle: It's just meant to be, said I in me, the I in me. Yeah.
00:27:19.720 --> 00:27:30.489 Frank R. Harrison: Right? So it's like, we're not only trying to reflect our place in this world among our our families, our friends, our peers, but we're also trying to find our place within ourselves.
00:27:30.490 --> 00:27:31.140 Ben Lytle: Start there.
00:27:31.140 --> 00:27:34.449 Frank R. Harrison: Ego and our in our soul and our potential.
00:27:34.710 --> 00:27:43.670 Ben Lytle: Yeah, you start there you discover yourself, and you discover, through discovering yourself, you discover the world, and through discovering the world you discover yourself
00:27:43.720 --> 00:27:54.819 Ben Lytle: and and one other thing, Frank, that in addition to this understanding and and in the in the book, the chapter that deals with all this is called the psychological body.
00:27:54.850 --> 00:28:19.909 Ben Lytle: and and I called it the psychological body by using a metaphor of our physical body, because in many ways they're similar. It's an organic process. It has functions just like your organs have functions, your arms and legs have functions, and when you understand how to use those, you live a more full life. And I'd ask your listeners. Isn't it odd
00:28:20.090 --> 00:28:23.609 Ben Lytle: that by the 7th or 8th grade middle school
00:28:23.620 --> 00:28:37.009 Ben Lytle: we know a lot about our physical body by the time we're midlife we're Dr. Google, man, we can tell you everything. And we're happy to tell you everybody everything about all we know about our bodies. We know almost nothing.
00:28:37.270 --> 00:28:45.039 Ben Lytle: almost nothing. The average person, other than using a handful of terms knows almost nothing about the psychological body
00:28:45.150 --> 00:28:51.350 Ben Lytle: and how to work with it to live a full life. And yet the psychological bodies, more important
00:28:51.690 --> 00:28:55.149 Ben Lytle: to your happiness and well-being than your physical body.
00:28:55.270 --> 00:29:00.369 Ben Lytle: So so this is not some wild, crazy idea. This is why
00:29:00.430 --> 00:29:06.069 Ben Lytle: other cultures have often paid a lot of attention to this in the past, but it's been lost.
00:29:06.090 --> 00:29:12.109 Ben Lytle: and we need a renaissance of it. That's what we're trying trying to do, because another example.
00:29:12.120 --> 00:29:36.210 Ben Lytle: Frank, was in the Greek culture. If you remember, we all have a we've all got a mental image, probably of Socrates sitting on a rock or a bench in front of a bunch of young people men at that time because they didn't. Women didn't get educated, and he's sitting in front of them, and he's having this Socratic dialogue challenging them.
00:29:37.220 --> 00:29:42.690 Ben Lytle: And and that's that what he was challenging them on, were
00:29:42.830 --> 00:29:47.410 Ben Lytle: what he what philosophy calls existential questions.
00:29:48.000 --> 00:29:48.580 Frank R. Harrison: Hmm.
00:29:48.580 --> 00:30:00.149 Ben Lytle: We? I call in the book unavoidable questions, and the only reason I do that is because, whether you answer them or not, and most people go through life and never get a definitive answer.
00:30:00.290 --> 00:30:07.560 Ben Lytle: You've actually answered them by the way you live, and often what happens is we adopt attitudes
00:30:07.870 --> 00:30:14.300 Ben Lytle: of society or other people that we've never ourselves ever grappled with
00:30:14.890 --> 00:30:23.150 Ben Lytle: and need to grapple with it. Because what happens in a moment this is come back to decision, making in a moment of decision, making right.
00:30:23.150 --> 00:30:26.760 Frank R. Harrison: I don't mean I don't mean to interrupt you, Ben, but we're about to take our second break.
00:30:26.760 --> 00:30:27.510 Ben Lytle: Okay.
00:30:27.510 --> 00:30:36.250 Frank R. Harrison: You've you've pinpointed exactly what the 3rd segment is about discussing those unavoidable questions, because we need to know what advanced skills
00:30:36.360 --> 00:30:38.460 Frank R. Harrison: can help us reach our full potential. So.
00:30:38.460 --> 00:30:39.420 Ben Lytle: Absolutely.
00:30:39.420 --> 00:30:43.695 Frank R. Harrison: Thank you for the the incidental segue. So.
00:30:44.550 --> 00:30:44.870 Ben Lytle: Yeah.
00:30:44.870 --> 00:31:02.719 Frank R. Harrison: No problem again. I'm sorry I let this go over. I'm just inspired by what Ben Lytle has been saying. Everybody must get this book, the potential, the age, the pursuit of wisdom. It's available on amazon.com. And it's available on his website, the potentialistfuture.com
00:31:02.730 --> 00:31:06.589 Frank R. Harrison: that all being said, Please stay tuned as we come back. After these messages.
00:33:10.770 --> 00:33:15.410 Frank R. Harrison: Hey, everybody, and welcome back. As we were ending the last segment of our show.
00:33:15.530 --> 00:33:24.339 Frank R. Harrison: Ben was talking about life's unavoidable questions, which is a chapter in itself in this book, and I totally have been
00:33:24.410 --> 00:33:29.000 Frank R. Harrison: asking myself similar questions in addition to the ones that you point out.
00:33:29.580 --> 00:33:44.330 Frank R. Harrison: I think you were about to go to another example. Maybe that's where you want to start. But at the same time, how do you want to break down the questions that people could really find more understanding from in terms of balancing their ego and realizing their potential.
00:33:45.510 --> 00:34:08.959 Ben Lytle: Well, 1st of all, the way you balance, you ultimately have to hear both voices. So you have to balance what you would call your gut feel of how life should be lived, because your gut is is often the place your or your or your sternum is where you'll feel. You know the soul. You'll feel that your head obviously be where your ego
00:34:09.030 --> 00:34:36.659 Ben Lytle: we'll speak, but but you learn to balance those, and we most of us know that. And we know if we're going one place one way too strong most of the time, intuitively. And we just have to learn to pay attention to that intuition. Yeah, the only other thing I want to, and we can move on to something else if you wish. But the only thing I wanted to mention on the unavoidable questions is one of the things that has developed in our society.
00:34:36.659 --> 00:34:51.209 Ben Lytle: And this is this is again often caused by the ego, is that when someone says something about an existential question, or someone says something about a philosophical oh, that's philosophical.
00:34:51.500 --> 00:35:02.450 Ben Lytle: as if it doesn't matter. And it actually is essential, because it's answering some of those questions for ourselves, not someone else.
00:35:02.620 --> 00:35:06.809 Ben Lytle: not someone else. That's piped it into us, including society.
00:35:06.910 --> 00:35:29.280 Ben Lytle: is how we ground ourselves in life. So, knowing your place in the world is being grounded, I know who I am. I know what I believe it's not something I've just wholesale adopted. So so a couple of 2 or 3 examples, and this is, people can try it on their own, and I certainly would encourage you to get the book because these are discussed at length in the book. Does my life.
00:35:29.560 --> 00:35:31.539 Ben Lytle: and how I live it matter
00:35:32.300 --> 00:35:40.140 Ben Lytle: so so I can make an argument. I'm 1 of billions, what difference and what? And there and there were billions went before me, and there'll be billions after me.
00:35:40.220 --> 00:35:41.840 Ben Lytle: How can I matter?
00:35:42.170 --> 00:35:43.579 Ben Lytle: Well, you do.
00:35:43.860 --> 00:35:51.910 Ben Lytle: and you matter a lot. In fact, you are the perfect in the perfect, imperfect creation, just like everything else in nature.
00:35:51.940 --> 00:35:59.590 Ben Lytle: and that deserves I can't answer that for you, but I can. I can walk you through how you think about it, and I do in the book
00:35:59.730 --> 00:36:01.050 Ben Lytle: another one.
00:36:01.250 --> 00:36:03.340 Ben Lytle: or is the human race
00:36:03.510 --> 00:36:06.420 Ben Lytle: being evolved to extinction
00:36:06.510 --> 00:36:07.899 Ben Lytle: or abundance.
00:36:08.300 --> 00:36:11.120 Ben Lytle: Right now none of us can be sure
00:36:11.670 --> 00:36:26.469 Ben Lytle: but we should really examine why we feel one way or the other, and feel, when it's all said and done, that the preponderance of the evidence, not just opinion, the preponderance of life. Experience, would tell me
00:36:26.540 --> 00:36:27.920 Ben Lytle: which one it is.
00:36:28.100 --> 00:36:36.629 Ben Lytle: So. That's just some examples. But those are really important to learn how to work through, so that we are an individual
00:36:36.730 --> 00:36:55.159 Ben Lytle: solid in our own beliefs for good, solid, evidentiary reasons, not just not whim or not what the the local people are saying, what what some what our parents told us once, or that's what's really important here. So I'll shift it to you if you'd like to move on so.
00:36:55.160 --> 00:37:07.720 Frank R. Harrison: Well, I'm learning a lot from you as as we go along. The the thing that I think that's ironic is this particular month on Frank about health. I think the last 2 episodes prior to this one
00:37:07.970 --> 00:37:16.570 Frank R. Harrison: one involved spirituality and one involved the soul. And here we are now talking about wisdom, which seems to be an integration of that.
00:37:16.620 --> 00:37:19.380 Frank R. Harrison: you know. I think it. It was just.
00:37:19.570 --> 00:37:26.609 Frank R. Harrison: I wouldn't call it destiny, but it was definitely fate. How everything all aligned over the month of October.
00:37:26.770 --> 00:37:28.420 Ben Lytle: Well and frank, I yeah, I'm not.
00:37:28.420 --> 00:37:28.939 Frank R. Harrison: Fired by that.
00:37:28.940 --> 00:37:44.209 Ben Lytle: I'm not the only person out there speaking this way, because this is not an illogical. I'm a very pragmatic man. I don't believe in doing things that I can't coming up with ideas I can't implement.
00:37:44.390 --> 00:37:53.399 Ben Lytle: This is something whose time is coming now. We don't know whether this time is in the next 3 years, this time will take 10 years, or 30 or 40 years, but.
00:37:53.400 --> 00:37:53.730 Frank R. Harrison: Are you?
00:37:53.730 --> 00:38:06.390 Ben Lytle: But if you think about the last 6 or 700 years, we've been focused in our education and parenting on getting our more information and knowledge into our children.
00:38:06.860 --> 00:38:14.610 Ben Lytle: And and now that information, and and ourselves, and that information and knowledge is now at our fingertips.
00:38:14.660 --> 00:38:20.960 Ben Lytle: it's become a commodity. So it's been democratized. The Internet smartphones did that.
00:38:21.070 --> 00:38:23.799 Ben Lytle: Now we have to be wise enough
00:38:24.070 --> 00:38:38.610 Ben Lytle: to use all that information and knowledge and use it well in good decisions if we're to have a more successful society in the future, and I believe we will. So it's actually a next logical step.
00:38:38.670 --> 00:39:01.130 Ben Lytle: So you're seeing a lot of people talking about this some of them are just doing, you know, some more narrow subjects I chose to take on the whole subject of how do you develop wisdom and potential? But we're all speak. We're all headed in the same direction. And so that's why I'm confident. Sooner or later this is coming. This is not just an isolated idea.
00:39:01.720 --> 00:39:30.009 Frank R. Harrison: Right, and, like you said on the last show that we we did together 2 years ago. It was already here, and AI was coming out in the media. But we were already operating with AI technology. Simple searches on our phones, for example, you know. But I know that there's much more to AI that you'll talk about in segment. 4 of the show, I think. What I what I find interesting is in all of what you discuss in the pursuit of wisdom
00:39:30.530 --> 00:39:38.930 Frank R. Harrison: for someone like myself, who is definitely focused on being my higher self, my best self that I could strive to be.
00:39:39.100 --> 00:39:47.890 Frank R. Harrison: I find that there's just a lot of people out there. I I don't know if it's regional or if it, it's global, or if it's just based on.
00:39:47.930 --> 00:39:53.400 Frank R. Harrison: you know, if they're if they're carrying a lifelong illness, or if they're just living a healthy life.
00:39:53.730 --> 00:39:57.719 Frank R. Harrison: But there are people that are that seem to be resistant to change.
00:39:57.860 --> 00:40:15.323 Frank R. Harrison: They want to thrive primarily and predominantly on their ego. You pointed out examples where, when they're offered an opportunity to be challenged with their own wisdom. They dismiss it, because probably it's unfamiliar, or they deny it, or the ego is denying it.
00:40:15.820 --> 00:40:20.810 Frank R. Harrison: I find that to be a phenomenon, because when I engage with your material.
00:40:21.000 --> 00:40:23.139 Frank R. Harrison: I only want to improve
00:40:23.300 --> 00:40:26.090 Frank R. Harrison: everything I do, including this show, for example.
00:40:26.710 --> 00:40:32.100 Frank R. Harrison: But I'm not everybody. We're all different, I guess, when you observe
00:40:32.360 --> 00:40:35.540 Frank R. Harrison: those people in your research and your writings.
00:40:35.580 --> 00:40:45.700 Frank R. Harrison: I gather. Do you just chalk it up to? Well, they've reached their limit, or there is a way that they can evolve, even if it's later in life.
00:40:46.250 --> 00:40:55.209 Ben Lytle: It's not a limit. It's not a limit issue. What? What? What we know from prior periods of great change.
00:40:55.310 --> 00:41:04.040 Ben Lytle: And we also know anybody who's done spent any time in marketing or taking a new product or service to market.
00:41:04.240 --> 00:41:06.960 Ben Lytle: We know that there's a bell curve
00:41:07.392 --> 00:41:16.830 Ben Lytle: for people responding to new ideas and new things, and and and they're on the on the so if everybody's pretty familiar with the bell curve.
00:41:16.990 --> 00:41:18.000 Frank R. Harrison: Early adopter.
00:41:18.000 --> 00:41:20.479 Ben Lytle: Yeah, right on on the one side.
00:41:20.610 --> 00:41:27.939 Ben Lytle: on the one side, there are about 15% of the population almost on anything.
00:41:28.080 --> 00:41:33.950 Ben Lytle: are receptive, naturally open and receptive to new ideas and new things.
00:41:34.060 --> 00:41:42.640 Ben Lytle: Yeah. And on the opposite side their count. Remember, everything in nature is an opposite. That's what we're doing with wisdom is we're learning to balance those.
00:41:42.750 --> 00:41:49.559 Ben Lytle: Now on the other side, there, about 15% are intensely resistive to change.
00:41:49.670 --> 00:41:50.180 Ben Lytle: And in.
00:41:50.180 --> 00:41:50.570 Frank R. Harrison: Incredible.
00:41:50.570 --> 00:41:54.430 Ben Lytle: Resisted. They'll be the last people to adopt.
00:41:54.580 --> 00:41:57.140 Ben Lytle: Everybody else is somewhere in between.
00:41:57.410 --> 00:42:05.730 Ben Lytle: And and then within the 15% who are early are fast followers, early adopters.
00:42:05.810 --> 00:42:19.090 Ben Lytle: There's another 15% of them. So 15% of the 15% are about 2.5% of the total are pace setters. There are people that they see a new idea, and they'll knock you down to get to it
00:42:19.370 --> 00:42:38.209 Ben Lytle: and try it. And we all know people like that. They're wonderful. Well, those are the people I write this book for everyone, but I recognize that it will be the pace setters and the fast followers who say, Aha! Why didn't I can tell you, Frank, when I began to learn this stuff
00:42:38.240 --> 00:42:44.499 Ben Lytle: in my twenties and thirties on my own, and with some wonderful teachers. Thank goodness.
00:42:44.850 --> 00:42:49.750 Ben Lytle: what I I my immediate reaction was, why didn't somebody teach me this in high school?
00:42:50.250 --> 00:43:10.110 Ben Lytle: Why didn't I learn? It's not that. It's not that it requires advanced degrees. That's nonsense, but it does require an openness. And I realized it taught me immediately how to make better decisions. It taught me immediately how to deepen my friendships, and and how to how to be a better business person.
00:43:10.110 --> 00:43:39.800 Ben Lytle: because so many of these practices carry on into your business and building business relationships. So so that's what's happening here. And I recognize there will be people who just are not. They'll be the last ones, you know, on the boat, but they'll ultimately come on, because that's how we make great changes in society. That's how we stopped littering and took smoking out of being the standard in society, and it seems to be maybe happening now with alcohol. I don't know
00:43:39.800 --> 00:43:55.290 Ben Lytle: so so, but it somehow starts this organic change. And and that's what I believe this organic change is coming. I think all the signs are there. That's what Futurists do. We look for the signs? Everybody else is not paying attention to so.
00:43:55.610 --> 00:44:07.259 Frank R. Harrison: We're about to take our final break. But I just want to make a final word based on what you just said, and that is that if, when you came to the conclusion, why didn't I learn this first? st And the 2 takeaways I got was
00:44:07.280 --> 00:44:09.899 Frank R. Harrison: the teachers you had at that time.
00:44:10.070 --> 00:44:34.320 Frank R. Harrison: We're not aware, either, and second, your own wisdom, that you were nurturing, and I guess a connection with your soul, as we discussed, allowed you to say, well, the the reason why no one knew is because I'm thinking more from within myself or in me, as you say, and I guess a lot of people probably don't have that
00:44:34.880 --> 00:44:39.239 Frank R. Harrison: innovative mentality fully developed yet, or.
00:44:39.240 --> 00:45:05.490 Ben Lytle: Well, and part of it. Frank was again for the last 600 years. That wasn't the focus of education. It was teaching us information and knowledge. And now we're there on that, we're we're there. It's not that we won't keep doing, continue doing that, but it's that we we now need to focus on using it. Well, we are abundantly rich in information and knowledge and data. Now, we got to figure out how to use it at this and optimize it.
00:45:06.000 --> 00:45:26.610 Frank R. Harrison: Okay, so, ladies and gentlemen, when we return Ben, already just touched upon what our final segment is going to be about. And that is the role of artificial intelligence, and how it can be our ally as we evolve into our potential that all being said, please stay tuned right here on Talkradio, Dot, Nyc. And on our social media platforms. We'll be back in a few.
00:47:30.600 --> 00:47:49.049 Frank R. Harrison: Hey, everybody, and welcome back before we go into our AI discussion, which I'm looking forward to share with you. Some of the insights that Ben has already had a chance to speak with me briefly about and its role, and how it can make you all reach your potential. I just want to highlight this book once again the potentialist, the pursuit
00:47:49.100 --> 00:47:53.850 Frank R. Harrison: of wisdom, and in the table of contents. Some of the things that
00:47:53.890 --> 00:48:00.300 Frank R. Harrison: this book entices you in understanding which we have slightly touched upon. But to give you more in depth
00:48:00.410 --> 00:48:14.899 Frank R. Harrison: is learning advanced skills within yourself that either you already have, or maybe you can pursue training or education in them that include cultivating consciousness that includes conscious intention, living life with intention.
00:48:15.040 --> 00:48:19.350 Frank R. Harrison: It involves learning states, and understanding your role in intimacy.
00:48:19.490 --> 00:48:24.639 Frank R. Harrison: also reframing fear and getting out of your own way.
00:48:24.870 --> 00:48:45.529 Frank R. Harrison: Basically, a lot of this stuff has already been mentioned in various shows right here on Talkradio, Dot, Nyc. Including the conscious consultant hour, the A train to Sedona, of course, frank about health, and not to mention any of the other shows or podcasts that might be out there that are really doing what they can to hone in on those various skills within yourself.
00:48:45.640 --> 00:48:58.800 Frank R. Harrison: But I don't think you get the full in-depth picture as you will in this particular book, because it sounds like and correct me if I'm wrong, Ben, it sounds like that in order for us to reach our full potential.
00:48:59.090 --> 00:49:12.719 Frank R. Harrison: We are always internally as well as externally trying to be our best selves and achieving wisdom, which is our leverage in understanding how to live a higher quality of life in the pursuit
00:49:12.740 --> 00:49:20.030 Frank R. Harrison: of what was it you said in the book, living a healthier life, or living a wiser life, or there was a phrase you used.
00:49:20.520 --> 00:49:47.959 Ben Lytle: Well the wisdom, the art of living wisdom is the art of living well, and then living well is the art of making good decisions, and the art of making good decisions is developing your capacity for wisdom and then doing it in the moment, because wise people can sometimes be unwise if they don't in that moment free themselves of the ego and biases and everything else, it's just. It's much like a good way to think about. It is. Think of a wise judge.
00:49:47.960 --> 00:49:53.800 Ben Lytle: a judge, perhaps, that you could visualize as being very wise. He becomes neutral.
00:49:53.900 --> 00:50:00.030 Ben Lytle: so he's not biased to either party. He examines the evidence, he balances the interest.
00:50:00.060 --> 00:50:03.310 Ben Lytle: looks back, or she looks back in time
00:50:03.360 --> 00:50:04.750 Ben Lytle: to precedent.
00:50:04.800 --> 00:50:19.349 Ben Lytle: looks at the facts today, looks forward to the precedent that this case will set you see how they do it. It's very similar to how we learn. We can learn to make those kind of decisions very wisely and make them that fast.
00:50:19.390 --> 00:50:32.919 Ben Lytle: I'm not talking about. You have to go into a climb, a mountain to make every decision. You don't. Once you get used to this that mechanism inside takes over that I and me takes over, and it knows how to do all of this.
00:50:33.540 --> 00:50:55.909 Frank R. Harrison: Amazing. Basically that all being said, I think this is the perfect time to really understand Ben's view on artificial intelligence, and how it can guide you and aid you in the pursuit of your wisdom. So, Ben, I know that we had like 3 points you mentioned yesterday, which I, which I definitely want you to outline again, because they were very helpful to me.
00:50:56.200 --> 00:51:10.779 Ben Lytle: Yeah. So so this is true of health and healthcare. I mean both of health and also pursuing wisdom. And I'll come right back to those 3 points just to briefly set the stage, Frank.
00:51:10.790 --> 00:51:36.520 Ben Lytle: the level of fear and apprehension in the world today, over technologies and over change is really unfortunate. It's at the highest non-wartime level in history, and it's very sad, because it's simply, I don't think accurately reflects where we are. Are there dangers in our world, of course, and there always will be.
00:51:36.880 --> 00:51:56.539 Ben Lytle: you know. Move it forward in 2,000 years. It'll probably still be there. But we're in a very old race we've we've withstood worse, and we will get through these times. If we remember we are all. We are all of one community. We are one, and that's 1 of the true meanings of intimacy
00:51:56.590 --> 00:52:13.920 Ben Lytle: which I love is the the word kinship, which means from one seed. We are all from one seed, and so we just have to remember that. So anyway, on technology, we should be celebrating these technologies coming. Why?
00:52:14.250 --> 00:52:17.600 Ben Lytle: Well, because in a declining population.
00:52:18.180 --> 00:52:32.999 Ben Lytle: if we don't improve productivity faster than the rate of population decline. We can't grow our economy suddenly our economies all around the world will be failing, because every developed country's population is declining.
00:52:33.480 --> 00:52:41.310 Ben Lytle: So so pro. And the only way to do that is with these technologies, beginning with artificial intelligence, right healthcare.
00:52:41.380 --> 00:52:49.339 Ben Lytle: We don't have enough clinicians. We don't have enough doctors, nurses, non-clinical caregivers in the home
00:52:49.500 --> 00:52:57.870 Ben Lytle: to care for an aging population period. I'm not, and I'm seeing that unequivocally we cannot do it the way we do it today.
00:52:58.030 --> 00:52:59.719 Ben Lytle: How are we going to do it better?
00:52:59.790 --> 00:53:17.320 Ben Lytle: Using artificial intelligence, robotics, things like that that can take some of the work off the clinicians so they can do their best work and not do administrative work, not do heavy lifting things that break people down, particularly caregivers.
00:53:17.450 --> 00:53:41.020 Ben Lytle: So these are we, these, this is the Calvary coming. This is not Boogeyman, this is the Calvary, are there things we have to be careful with? Of course, every new technology has that. But we're not idiots. We have done this for thousands and thousands of years. And it's always been innovation that's lifted humanity far more than people trying to do good works. Quite frankly.
00:53:41.020 --> 00:53:41.610 Frank R. Harrison: Hmm.
00:53:42.010 --> 00:54:00.689 Ben Lytle: So it's innovation that will be our Savior on many of these things. Now let's talk about artificial intelligence, and particularly, I want to talk about it in healthcare, and then the time we have left I'll talk a little bit about how we'll use it in wisdom. Sure. Artificial intelligence can do some very powerful things
00:54:01.290 --> 00:54:05.829 Ben Lytle: in. In. 1st of all, I like to think of them as the 3 P's.
00:54:06.720 --> 00:54:09.650 Ben Lytle: One is personalization.
00:54:10.220 --> 00:54:10.560 Frank R. Harrison: Yes.
00:54:10.560 --> 00:54:12.190 Ben Lytle: Imagine that
00:54:12.360 --> 00:54:18.060 Ben Lytle: a computer can know you as intimately as you want it to know you.
00:54:18.430 --> 00:54:25.249 Ben Lytle: So it learns you've already seen it. If you use streaming services on TV. It knows you. It finds what you like.
00:54:25.270 --> 00:54:39.839 Ben Lytle: and there's disadvantages to that, too. You have to manage it. So it doesn't keep you in a little narrow wedge, but but but in health care that's going to be a game changer, because all health care to this point has been classes of people.
00:54:39.980 --> 00:54:50.359 Ben Lytle: classes by disease, classes by ethnicity classes by age. And now we're going to be able to. But but those are only generalizations.
00:54:50.430 --> 00:54:55.530 Ben Lytle: and we can get medicine and treatment right down to you individually.
00:54:56.020 --> 00:54:59.520 Ben Lytle: Second. So that's personalization. That's the 1st P.
00:54:59.770 --> 00:55:01.999 Ben Lytle: The the second P
00:55:02.260 --> 00:55:03.809 Ben Lytle: is prediction.
00:55:04.140 --> 00:55:11.300 Ben Lytle: One of these, one of the things that's amazing about artificial intelligence that most people really haven't heard much about
00:55:11.460 --> 00:55:40.590 Ben Lytle: is that if any of you know anything at all about information technology and your jobs or anything. You know that in the past, to store anything you had to have very predefined fields of a certain size, and whether it was alphanumeric, and it was a very tedious, slow process. Artificial intelligence allows us to literally just dump raw data. Let's say, 10 years of blood tests
00:55:40.800 --> 00:55:43.640 Ben Lytle: for people with Parkinson's
00:55:43.670 --> 00:55:58.970 Ben Lytle: and try to find out. What can we learn from that? What would their blood tell us? And so in health care? This is a huge thing. We can suddenly load raw data, no formatting, and just start asking it questions
00:55:59.170 --> 00:56:24.130 Ben Lytle: and see what answers we get. So that's going to be huge. Now imagine, in your case, if suddenly you've got a ring, you've got a watch. You've got your your mirror in your bathroom. If you turn it on. It will read your face to make sure you don't show any signs of stroke or anything like that. And it's reading and collecting all that data, and it's able to predict
00:56:24.520 --> 00:56:29.499 Ben Lytle: for your doctor or for you. This doesn't look so good. I think you ought to go see your doctor.
00:56:29.930 --> 00:56:30.610 Ben Lytle: Huh?
00:56:30.730 --> 00:56:45.079 Ben Lytle: You see how that's going to work. And so so that's the second thing. Suddenly medicine is becoming going to become very predictive in the next decade or 2, and everyone I know right now the amount of work going into
00:56:45.080 --> 00:57:01.919 Ben Lytle: what they call DNA biomarkers, biomarkers of disease in the DNA or biomarkers in the Rna. I'm sorry. Immune signatures in our body that are like an IP address of a computer that tell them this is what's wrong. And here's where it's at
00:57:01.920 --> 00:57:11.200 Ben Lytle: that's going to create enormous new inroads in predictive medicine. So we don't necessarily, or we're not always repairing. We're predicting and preventing.
00:57:11.500 --> 00:57:16.809 Ben Lytle: The 3rd is participation. And this is where everybody comes in.
00:57:17.050 --> 00:57:19.420 Ben Lytle: Yeah, we can gather all that data.
00:57:19.530 --> 00:57:22.489 Ben Lytle: You can have a ring. You can have a watch.
00:57:23.100 --> 00:57:33.300 Ben Lytle: and and you can have the mirror kind of sending you a warning signal. It's not ready for the doctor. But let's keep. I want you to use this mirror every day for this week
00:57:33.750 --> 00:57:44.730 Ben Lytle: if you go in and you slug down a half of a of a bottle of Jack Daniels and and eat a double cheeseburger you haven't participated.
00:57:45.880 --> 00:58:03.690 Ben Lytle: The idea is we're gonna give. You're going to get a lot more information on how to manage your health. And and it's going to be so different. It's a little hard to describe from an opportunity standpoint. It's almost like you know how you go in and you pay a lot of attention to your appearance today.
00:58:04.180 --> 00:58:19.839 Ben Lytle: You know you go in. You check your you know you check your eyebrows and make sure they're not pointing 2 different directions, and you know you, you know you brush your teeth, and you know. Imagine now, suddenly, you're paying attention to your health that closely.
00:58:19.840 --> 00:58:20.480 Frank R. Harrison: Right.
00:58:20.710 --> 00:58:27.820 Ben Lytle: So that you can modify your behavior in the moment to do what's better for you.
00:58:27.880 --> 00:58:40.830 Ben Lytle: and the possibilities are that we could come out of this living, you know, 2030, 40 years longer, and not in not in declining health, but in good health.
00:58:41.230 --> 00:58:41.630 Frank R. Harrison: Yes.
00:58:41.630 --> 00:58:49.249 Ben Lytle: That's very, very, very possible. And and and I and and I and I believe that will undoubtedly happen.
00:58:49.370 --> 00:59:03.540 Ben Lytle: And that's that's a lot of that's using AI, and when they and and it's using a new science called neuroimaging or brain mapping, learning how our, what parts of our brain do, what? Which we really haven't known that much about before.
00:59:03.610 --> 00:59:19.420 Ben Lytle: And it's using. Gonna and it will ultimately, within 10 years be using the most powerful computers ever ever been created called quantum computers. And those will be able to do things we can't do today with all the computing power on the entire planet.
00:59:19.580 --> 00:59:38.809 Ben Lytle: So that'll be so like like, simulate the entire human body or simulate organs, simulate the environment. And and so we can experiment rather than having to run big FDA trials on drugs and things like that, or at least make them shorter and more and a lot less costly.
00:59:38.810 --> 00:59:49.979 Ben Lytle: So that's very exciting future for healthcare. So look at this stuff as your friend, and it's something we absolutely have to have, or we're not going to be able to take care of each other.
00:59:50.770 --> 01:00:03.430 Frank R. Harrison: Now I've just gotten the signal that we ran a little bit over time, but I was not going to let the show end until you outline those 3 perspectives, ladies and gentlemen, I will be back again next week with another episode of Frank about health. But, please
01:00:03.530 --> 01:00:05.460 Frank R. Harrison: by the potentialist.
01:00:05.530 --> 01:00:08.239 Frank R. Harrison: The 1st book that we covered 2 years ago.
01:00:08.670 --> 01:00:17.399 Frank R. Harrison: your life in the future of the next 30 years, and this one, which is A, must have the pursuit of wisdom, and I know number 3 is coming out. But.
01:00:17.400 --> 01:00:18.200 Ben Lytle: That's right.
01:00:18.200 --> 01:00:20.315 Frank R. Harrison: We'll talk about that at a later date.
01:00:20.580 --> 01:00:21.529 Ben Lytle: That's great, Frank.
01:00:21.530 --> 01:00:41.800 Frank R. Harrison: Thank you so much for for being here, Ben. I literally, I think I'm on my 3rd reading of this book, but I will be in touch with you and overall. Thank you behind the scenes, Logan, for all that you've done. I thank all of you for watching on Linkedin Facebook twitch and Youtube. And if you have any questions for me, Frank Rharrison, one@gmail.com
01:00:41.860 --> 01:00:47.299 Frank R. Harrison: and I will pass them on to Ben if they're also for him. Thank you again. See you next week. Bye-bye.
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