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What does it take to raise up an unserved community and build its economic infrastructure? That's what we will learn in this episode with Dionne McGee.
ABOUT OUR GUEST:
Dionne McGee is the Cohort Director of the Eastern North Carolina Entrepreneurial Promise (ENCEP), where she and her team bring diversity and stimulation to the eastern NC economy through a virtual regional incubator for companies owned by minorities and women in underserved counties of North Carolina.
In the past, Dionne held executive leadership roles in corporate America leading sales organizations. She is a professional speaker, author, and entrepreneur who has a special heart for women in the workplace and entrepreneurship. Dionne has a passion to provide professional development and help individuals and organizations find their road to success. She is a certified Project Manager and Ice House Facilitator. Dionne earned her B.A from North Carolina Wesleyan accompanied by a host of certifications.
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00:00:51.610 --> 00:01:03.570 Mira Brancu: Welcome welcome to the hard skills show where we discuss how to develop the nuanced hard skills meaning the most challenging soft skills needed to make a real impact through your leadership.
00:01:04.019 --> 00:01:07.879 Mira Brancu: What does it take to raise up an underserved community
00:01:07.920 --> 00:01:10.609 Mira Brancu: and build its economic infrastructure?
00:01:10.620 --> 00:01:15.780 Mira Brancu: That's what we will learn today in this episode with our guest today, Dion Griffin Mcgee.
00:01:16.050 --> 00:01:23.430 Mira Brancu: Dion is the CEO of Dg. Mcgee enterprises, a federally certified woman-owned small business
00:01:23.710 --> 00:01:40.769 Mira Brancu: and project management firm specializing in professional career development and entrepreneurial programming with a relentless passion for empowering women. Dion has created transformative initiatives, such as roar university courses and conferences.
00:01:40.770 --> 00:01:55.829 Mira Brancu: The Aspen good jobs program, and she's also the cohort director of the Eastern North Carolina entrepreneurial promise, or Nsep, for short, where she and her team bring diversity and simulation to the Eastern North Carolina economy, through a virtual
00:01:55.890 --> 00:02:01.999 Mira Brancu: regional incubator for companies owned by minorities and women in underserved counties of North Carolina
00:02:02.350 --> 00:02:11.860 Mira Brancu: as a retired corporate executive. Dion is an accomplished project manager, business strategist, speaker, and author, with a special heart for women in the workplace and entrepreneurship.
00:02:12.020 --> 00:02:18.760 Mira Brancu: She's been named North Carolina Rural Center's 2024 entrepreneur of the year.
00:02:18.910 --> 00:02:26.360 Mira Brancu: and few fun facts. Here she loves real estate ventures, and a huge Prince fan, which, by the way, Dion.
00:02:26.380 --> 00:02:28.850 Mira Brancu: my husband! Huge Prince Fan!
00:02:29.540 --> 00:02:33.990 Mira Brancu: Yes, indeed! Welcome to the show, Dion.
00:02:34.220 --> 00:02:43.890 Dionne McGee: Thank you so much for having me, Doc. I'm excited for the conversation and kudos to you for all the things, the great things that you are doing so. I'm I'm glad to be here long overdue.
00:02:43.890 --> 00:03:07.620 Mira Brancu: Thank you. Thank you. I'm super super excited to have you here now I am your host, Dr. Mira Branco. I'm a leadership, consulting and coaching psychologist, founder of the Towerscope Leadership Academy and associate professor, a psychology today columnist, author of the Millennials Guide to workplace politics and had my own leadership career before transitioning to helping teams and high achieving women navigate their leadership complexities.
00:03:07.660 --> 00:03:10.300 Mira Brancu: And before we get started to that end
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00:04:14.450 --> 00:04:37.109 Mira Brancu: and you can reach out to me to learn more on Linkedin at Mira Bronco, and also to register. You can look up my posts on that. You are not going to find this anywhere on my website. That's where you'll find it is on my social media, on Linkedin and other places. So just reach out to me if you're interested by Friday, that's the close. Okay, all right. So
00:04:37.380 --> 00:04:40.119 Mira Brancu: on to our show with Dion.
00:04:40.832 --> 00:04:43.519 Mira Brancu: Dion, you have spent
00:04:43.980 --> 00:04:45.809 Mira Brancu: over 25 years
00:04:46.160 --> 00:04:47.480 Mira Brancu: in your career
00:04:47.730 --> 00:04:49.119 Mira Brancu: in corporate America.
00:04:49.440 --> 00:04:53.529 Mira Brancu: and my understanding is that's been in male dominated industries
00:04:53.540 --> 00:04:56.980 Mira Brancu: like mortgage telecommunications, utilities.
00:04:57.350 --> 00:05:12.220 Mira Brancu: And during the last decade of your career, you started documenting the numerous challenges that you faced working in these kinds of environments that were not diverse, equitable, inclusive, and you shared with me that in
00:05:12.400 --> 00:05:21.560 Mira Brancu: a company with, for example, 4,000 employees, less than 10% were minorities, and you were the only African American female in the executive suite.
00:05:21.590 --> 00:05:32.070 Mira Brancu: and as you grew increasingly frustrated with the corporate politics and racial injustices, you started documenting it. You poured it into your book, finding your roar.
00:05:32.460 --> 00:05:33.630 Mira Brancu: and so
00:05:34.270 --> 00:05:47.560 Mira Brancu: I'd love to hear more about that journey, and how you ended up becoming an entrepreneur yourself, and being passionate about supporting other women and minorities on their entrepreneurship, workplace and economic empowerment journeys.
00:05:48.600 --> 00:06:05.619 Dionne McGee: So you've done your homework. I will give you that for sure. So no, thank you for that. It was a what I call a long, hard, lonely walk. Matter of fact, that's 1 of the chapters in the book, the loneliness of leadership right? And during that time.
00:06:05.620 --> 00:06:20.450 Dionne McGee: as I was matriculating through school. I just felt like, Yeah, I'm going to be an executive. I'm gonna get in this corporate space. And I'm going to break that glass ceiling. I'm going to be the example for all the women, and I just found out that it was not as welcoming as I thought
00:06:20.610 --> 00:06:27.410 Dionne McGee: it should be, and and I honestly had to sit in my my office one day and say, You know, how long are we gonna do
00:06:27.410 --> 00:06:50.970 Dionne McGee: this right? There has to be something better that you are valued and where you are appreciated. Right? So I was leading a sales proposal department. I remember at 1 point juggling 13 Rfps at the same time with a team of about 15 employees. And there were multiple millions of dollars
00:06:51.330 --> 00:06:57.370 Dionne McGee: on the table for each project. So no stress. No one was stressed right, but
00:06:57.370 --> 00:07:22.169 Dionne McGee: I just looked at it. I enjoyed the job, but I did not enjoy the injustices that came along with the job, and so what I thought that I was going to do as I was going to be the one that's going to make the change and change the culture and all the things. But we have to understand that the culture starts from the top down. So, me being in that space where I am on the trajectory to break the glass ceiling. No one is quite listening to me yet, because I'm
00:07:22.170 --> 00:07:31.179 Dionne McGee: cracking the ceiling. It's not broken. It's being cracked right? And so I literally had to put a line in the sand and
00:07:31.280 --> 00:07:39.759 Dionne McGee: understand that there was more for me to do outside the 4 walls of corporate America. But, ironically enough.
00:07:40.220 --> 00:07:44.289 Dionne McGee: I was being prepared for the outside, and I didn't even realize it. So
00:07:45.240 --> 00:08:09.970 Dionne McGee: writing proposals right having a team that could dissect and win multi-million dollar proposals necessary as an entrepreneur. One of the other things that I was asked to do in my role was to travel the country whenever my company was sponsoring a conference specifically those that were in that utility space for women. Again, that's a small arena of
00:08:09.970 --> 00:08:34.840 Dionne McGee: women, and a lot of times women will come into that space and get those administrative roles and stay in that role and not really grow it in scale. They will get stuck and stagnant. Right. So I was either asked to do a keynote, offer a panel space to be on a panel or to moderate a panel, and that's when I began to build my speaking muscle again. I'm just doing this because it's part of my job, and then
00:08:34.840 --> 00:08:43.090 Dionne McGee: fell in love with it right? And so once I had enough of the injustices and tired of taking the notes. I'm sending my office, and
00:08:43.159 --> 00:08:46.920 Dionne McGee: I hear this. It's time for you to write the book. I'm like, what book
00:08:46.940 --> 00:08:56.439 Dionne McGee: like I'm not. I'm that's not not something on my things to do as a project manager. I'm not trying to check that box or make that sale green. Right? So I realized
00:08:56.800 --> 00:09:16.876 Dionne McGee: how many notes I had, and I felt like it was time to do something different, and the book pretty much became my resignation. For corporate taking that leap to take that leadership, those leadership skills and project management skills. And and figure out, let's let's just go and test the waters and see what's out there that we can do something that
00:09:17.450 --> 00:09:23.309 Dionne McGee: I could be excited about, and to also make an impact in the community, and the the rest is history. Honestly.
00:09:23.530 --> 00:09:27.657 Mira Brancu: Yeah, the book was my resignation. I just love that.
00:09:29.465 --> 00:09:30.441 Mira Brancu: I'm curious.
00:09:31.280 --> 00:09:42.219 Mira Brancu: What if you're if you're willing to share what were some of the injustices, and or like what made it feel, not welcoming, or that you were not valued in the way that you had hoped.
00:09:43.656 --> 00:09:48.233 Dionne McGee: A couple of 3 things. One of those things was
00:09:48.870 --> 00:09:59.590 Dionne McGee: I was one. I was the only African American female on my team, and every time that I would try to hire any other minorities there were 10,000 reasons why they did not.
00:10:00.340 --> 00:10:28.639 Dionne McGee: Right. And then I found that there was a lot of nepotism in some of the departments, and these folks didn't even have the credentials to be in that space. They just knew someone. Right? So I'm making note of these things I've seen in spaces where I have been an advocate for other women in meetings or in conferences flying across the country, where a female would say something, and no one would acknowledge what she said, and
00:10:29.160 --> 00:10:33.269 Dionne McGee: Bob could say the same thing, and then it hurt Bob. So I,
00:10:33.560 --> 00:10:57.569 Dionne McGee: Barbara, just said that. Did you not hear Barbara when she said, and I didn't have a problem with that, because my voice is pretty strong. So when I said something I said something right. But I wanted to be the advocate for for other women. I'm like this is not? This is not right. And so it got to a space in time where I had to say, Hey, that there has to be something better, and I'm having conversations with human resources. I'm having conversations
00:10:57.864 --> 00:11:05.529 Dionne McGee: with my vice President. But I'm not seeing the change that should have been coming along with it, so I didn't want to be Debbie Downer.
00:11:05.710 --> 00:11:25.561 Dionne McGee: I don't wanna keep complaining about it, but I'm not seeing the change that needs to come along with it, because at the end of the day, if the culture is right, your bottom line will be right, and we we can not be so much about the revolving door, because you will be able to retain your employees if they feel like they're valued. And they're and they're treated properly right. And so
00:11:25.850 --> 00:11:27.340 Dionne McGee: I found that
00:11:27.780 --> 00:11:51.219 Dionne McGee: my peers as far as the Vps President, those that were on my level and career track we got along fine. That was not the problem. The problem was those that had to report to me. They were not prepared for African American female to be their leader, and one in particular. I was hired from the outside in felt like I took his job.
00:11:51.450 --> 00:12:07.170 Dionne McGee: He felt like I took his job because he was already there. So I had to be very clear. There are 2 ales, there's leadership, and then there's longevity, and I honestly think that you may be confused. You've just been here a long time, is what I share with him, and if you had been a leader they wouldn't came looking for me. So that's.
00:12:07.170 --> 00:12:08.130 Mira Brancu: Love. This
00:12:08.660 --> 00:12:12.350 Mira Brancu: longevity does not equal leadership. Opportunities.
00:12:12.350 --> 00:12:17.959 Dionne McGee: Not at all, doctor, not at all. It does not, it does not. That just means you've been here for a while, that's all. That's all.
00:12:17.960 --> 00:12:21.410 Mira Brancu: Yeah, yeah, no, that makes perfect sense. And I can't even imagine
00:12:21.470 --> 00:12:39.120 Mira Brancu: how frustrated you were because you it does sound like you were trying to make change. You were trying to share your concerns with leadership. You were on a leadership team trying to bring up these things, and it was like not resonating at all. And because the culture was nepotism.
00:12:39.120 --> 00:12:55.079 Mira Brancu: people that you were overseeing were like, Well, but yeah, of course, it makes sense that I've been here for a while, and I would just automatically be, you know, elevated to the next leadership role. And I just want to sort of write some read something that you describe in your book that I just think is
00:12:56.040 --> 00:13:02.089 Mira Brancu: beautiful. You just have a way with words, Dion, you said as a lion in leadership.
00:13:02.200 --> 00:13:06.480 Mira Brancu: I soon realized that I was working with a bunch of hyenas
00:13:08.220 --> 00:13:14.640 Mira Brancu: because I held my team accountable for doing their jobs. I encountered many problems. Yeah.
00:13:14.640 --> 00:13:15.260 Dionne McGee: Yeah, and then.
00:13:15.260 --> 00:13:16.370 Mira Brancu: One of them right.
00:13:16.370 --> 00:13:19.559 Dionne McGee: That that's 1 of them, and one of the things that
00:13:20.030 --> 00:13:47.635 Dionne McGee: with my Pm. Brain. What I saw that I felt the other thing that I felt like wasn't fair. I had some folks that were originally my peers, so I ended up running the entire department, which was hard, so for us to to be colleagues and on the same level, and then to be promoted several times. It was different and and difficult for them to process. Now she's running the whole entire organization. I used to like her now. I don't like her.
00:13:48.440 --> 00:14:12.159 Dionne McGee: And and it turned into something else right? But at the end of the day what I saw was a lot of folks in the department in the company overall. Some folks are working 1012, 14 h, and then you would have those that would be at the elevator every day like clockwork at 3 59, regardless of if a proposal or anything was due right? And so I looked at it with that Pm. Lens, what can we do
00:14:12.160 --> 00:14:37.140 Dionne McGee: as a department and an overall organization right to balance this out where we can all work 8 h, give or take, and we can all be at the elevator at 4 o'clock together, instead of these people being stretched thin, being burnt out working while they're in the office, taking their laptop home, you know, probably in a drive through or throwing something in the air. Fryer. Those are the best gourmet meals.
00:14:37.140 --> 00:14:44.820 Dionne McGee: I have learned how to make delicacies in the air Fryer and in the crock pot, because you're just juggling all the things right?
00:14:45.140 --> 00:14:59.359 Dionne McGee: So when I try to implement those things where there is balance, I see that my technical folks are doing these 12 h. What is it that my administrative folks can take off the plate of my technical people so that we can have a balance. Oh, my God.
00:14:59.930 --> 00:15:01.020 Dionne McGee: change.
00:15:01.020 --> 00:15:01.980 Mira Brancu: How dare you.
00:15:01.980 --> 00:15:05.329 Dionne McGee: Yes, we don't do that here. Yes.
00:15:06.040 --> 00:15:10.460 Dionne McGee: it made good sense to me, but it wasn't making sense to other people right. And I just.
00:15:10.460 --> 00:15:10.830 Mira Brancu: Yeah.
00:15:10.830 --> 00:15:31.980 Dionne McGee: Honestly went in with that lens to be fair and and just because we all have families and all the things. And we talk about work, life balance. And we just ended my conference, Rorycon 24, and and folks were saying from the panel, we've been saying it backwards. It should be life work, balance. I was like, Oh, my God.
00:15:32.020 --> 00:15:40.000 Dionne McGee: right? We don't, and that's what it should be. That's exactly what it should be. And we're not focusing on that. We're focusing more on the work. And then
00:15:40.210 --> 00:15:43.330 Dionne McGee: I can catch life on the backside. No, absolutely.
00:15:43.330 --> 00:16:02.000 Mira Brancu: Absolutely okay. So you're making too much sense. Let's digest this for a second. We're nearing an ad break. You're listening to the hard skills with me, Dr. Mira Branco and our guest today, Dion Griffin Mcgee, author of finding your roar and CEO of Dg. Mcgee enterprises
00:16:02.330 --> 00:16:17.540 Mira Brancu: when we come back. I'm thinking that we I'd love to hear a little bit more about how you are changing the game through your own Dg. Mcgee enterprises. So we air on Tuesdays at 5 pm. If you want to join us right now, online.
00:16:17.540 --> 00:16:28.589 Mira Brancu: live and ask us questions, you can. We're live streaming on Linkedin and Youtube. And you can also find us@talkradio.nyc. And we'll be right back with our guests in just a moment.
00:18:45.380 --> 00:19:02.640 Mira Brancu: Welcome back with me, Mira Bronco and my guest today, Dion Mcgee, on the hard skills. We did have one comment on Linkedin by Patricia or Trish West, and she absolutely loved your 2. L's comment, longevity versus leadership. This is, I loved it too. It was awesome.
00:19:03.554 --> 00:19:04.109 Dionne McGee: Yes.
00:19:04.890 --> 00:19:05.590 Mira Brancu: So.
00:19:06.560 --> 00:19:15.670 Mira Brancu: You know. What? How have you thought about this through your own lens as you've built up Dg. Mcgee enterprises and the work that you do
00:19:15.840 --> 00:19:22.370 Mira Brancu: through the various programs. What could have made a difference for you that you're trying now to make a difference for others?
00:19:23.580 --> 00:19:25.199 Dionne McGee: I honestly think
00:19:25.470 --> 00:19:26.620 Dionne McGee: that
00:19:27.070 --> 00:19:30.920 Dionne McGee: all that I experienced in corporate was necessary.
00:19:31.370 --> 00:19:47.570 Dionne McGee: and I say that from a from a space of sometimes you can be in a place where you're comfortable and uncomfortable at the same time. Right? And so, had I not experienced what I I did, I would probably still be there and not be able
00:19:47.570 --> 00:20:09.030 Dionne McGee: to make the impact that I'm making in the community. I would have been one of those that dedicated to the cause. I would have wrote this thing out into the sunset, got the gold watch and the plaque, and did the 30 years, and retired right and and Eastern North Carolina and all the cohorts and the programs would have never known
00:20:09.030 --> 00:20:18.070 Dionne McGee: me or had the opportunity to design or make an impact that we're making, making the impact that we're making now. So looking back at it
00:20:18.350 --> 00:20:29.356 Dionne McGee: while I didn't understand it then, it didn't make sense to me. Then, looking back at it in hindsight, it was necessary, and one of the things that I do also share is
00:20:31.150 --> 00:20:32.400 Dionne McGee: my
00:20:32.510 --> 00:20:34.890 Dionne McGee: situation. My
00:20:35.100 --> 00:20:59.639 Dionne McGee: charge had to be disrupted. If you will right. Everything had to be shaken because it didn't make sense. And now I understand why it had to happen, because otherwise I would never have left, I would have stayed in a place where I was stressed and stretched thin. And I. There were times where I felt like a horrible mom, because I could not make all of my kids sporting events, and I couldn't do this. And and when
00:20:59.640 --> 00:21:13.740 Dionne McGee: when I was present I really wasn't present because I had my laptop. I was working on some proposal, and I call it Chicken Little every time there was an emergency. I was the only one that could fix it like the sky was falling at least 3 times a week, right? But
00:21:13.740 --> 00:21:15.729 Dionne McGee: what I learned was
00:21:16.730 --> 00:21:45.979 Dionne McGee: that had to happen, even though again it didn't make sense when it happened. It had to happen for me to take that venture to become the entrepreneur that I currently am a business owner because I was taught. You go to school, you get a degree. You get an excellent job, great benefits. You. You work that job for 30 years again. Go watch, run off into the sunset, and you had that success. That's what we were taught, you know, and so to tell my family that I'm going to go jump into this ocean.
00:21:46.210 --> 00:22:10.409 Dionne McGee: They were like you. What I don't understand like you have a great job. But you don't understand the stress that comes along with, said Job, and and Stress, as we know, can kill you. So I had to make a decision. Do I want to continue to do this, or do I want to go and be a creative and and help make an impact for those that are on the path that need a different type of program. They need
00:22:10.800 --> 00:22:34.690 Dionne McGee: a different type of mindset, if you will, and because of my space and time in corporate and being from Eastern North Carolina myself, I understood what they were challenged with as far as growth and scalability. So who better to create something and share something with the masses to help folks really get to where they need to be, and to make that transition
00:22:35.049 --> 00:22:48.700 Dionne McGee: from the workforce to this entrepreneur space, or both. And I'm not against that. I don't want anyone to take away that, I said. Quit your job to become an entrepreneur disclaimer. We need to put that somewhere.
00:22:48.700 --> 00:22:49.800 Mira Brancu: That's not what she's saying.
00:22:50.415 --> 00:22:51.030 Dionne McGee: Mean.
00:22:51.030 --> 00:22:56.270 Mira Brancu: What I am hearing. Is, and I think a lot of people can resonate with. This is
00:22:57.110 --> 00:23:02.630 Mira Brancu: when we receive these messages about success equals
00:23:02.710 --> 00:23:08.138 Mira Brancu: time, and you know, and you know, putting in your time and having the right
00:23:08.670 --> 00:23:33.280 Mira Brancu: you know, a foundation in terms of training. That's not enough. Success requires the environment for you to thrive, and if you don't have the environment to thrive, you can take the same person like you, Dion, right and put them in a different environment where they're not thriving because of the environment. And you, it's not like you're a different person. Now, you're just able to thrive now in a different environment. So.
00:23:33.280 --> 00:23:33.780 Dionne McGee: Is, that.
00:23:33.780 --> 00:23:36.308 Mira Brancu: One big thing, and I think
00:23:37.250 --> 00:24:00.799 Mira Brancu: also, you know what happened lit really lit a fire in you to make a difference and to do it in a way where you had a lot more freedom to to be able to offer that. And I'd love to you mentioned Eastern North Carolina, and how you're making an impact there. And I'd love to sort of talk a lot more about this program because I just think it's incredible. So you and I met
00:24:01.450 --> 00:24:23.519 Mira Brancu: I want to give a shout out to Roberta Mccullough. She is a leader with the National Institute of Minority, economic development and association of business women's business centers around here in North Carolina and we all have this sort of same passion in mind around supporting women and minorities and and businesses, and I had the good fortune of
00:24:23.969 --> 00:24:36.559 Mira Brancu: being introduced to you when you were looking for you know various mentors and speakers to support this program. Eastern North Carolina entrepreneurials promise and Sep.
00:24:36.630 --> 00:24:42.220 Mira Brancu: Tell us about it. What is its focus and what are what are you aiming at with this program.
00:24:43.380 --> 00:25:03.709 Dionne McGee: The Eastern North Carolina entrepreneur program. Started at the onset of the the pandemic right and it was a difficult time for for everyone, and I I think that we all need to admit that we were depressed. In some way, shape or form during that time. Right? And so when it comes to
00:25:03.980 --> 00:25:18.228 Dionne McGee: business ownership, entrepreneurship, there were so many folks that were impacted by a reduction in force, they literally had to create something to sustain their families right? And so
00:25:18.970 --> 00:25:25.400 Dionne McGee: Nc. Idea they were our original funders for the program
00:25:25.450 --> 00:25:51.219 Dionne McGee: offered a scope of work to the Institute, and the Institute was like, Hey, this is amazing. At that time there was no footprint in Eastern North Carolina for the Institute, and they reached out to me in regards to the project management program management. And so backstory is when the call came. I started laughing. They're like, why are you laughing? I said. I'm laughing because
00:25:51.310 --> 00:25:56.859 Dionne McGee: I literally just said that I wanted to offer some type of program in Eastern North Carolina.
00:25:56.860 --> 00:25:58.939 Mira Brancu: I've spoken into existence.
00:25:58.940 --> 00:26:03.230 Dionne McGee: Literally literally like 2 weeks or so before the call came right.
00:26:03.230 --> 00:26:03.889 Mira Brancu: Vested it.
00:26:03.890 --> 00:26:10.549 Dionne McGee: And so when I'm on the phone, I'm like, I looked at the phone like, I literally just said this like 14 days ago, right.
00:26:10.730 --> 00:26:14.899 Dionne McGee: And so I'm talking to Roberta. And I, said, Roberta, do you know where I'm from?
00:26:15.160 --> 00:26:22.229 Dionne McGee: And she was like, no, I thought you were in Raleigh, so everybody. Then, when you meet someone in Raleigh, they think you're from Raleigh. I was like Raleigh is full of transplants, right? Like. No.
00:26:22.620 --> 00:26:43.569 Dionne McGee: I said, I am originally from the metropolis of Washington, North Carolina. I'm a Down East girl, 30 min from not even 30, really like 2025 min from East Carolina University, and I understand the heartbeat, if you will, and some of the challenges and struggles that
00:26:43.620 --> 00:26:58.010 Dionne McGee: entrepreneurs have. But they are some of the smartest people they just don't have access to resources, right to networking and to a good solid program. So I literally took myself
00:26:58.220 --> 00:27:00.399 Dionne McGee: out of the space of
00:27:00.660 --> 00:27:25.979 Dionne McGee: curator of the program director of the program and put myself back in Eastern North Carolina and designed it with them in mind. What is it that they really need to know to get off the ground. What is it that they need beyond some of our small business centers and our small business centers are amazing resources. However, if you have folks that are what I call our dual preneurs that are working.
00:27:25.980 --> 00:27:26.260 Mira Brancu: Hmm.
00:27:26.540 --> 00:27:40.869 Dionne McGee: During the day and trying to build this business at night, you know, burning the candle at both ends. We have to meet them in a way that they don't have to physically be in a building. Right? So we have to use technology to reach them. So that ended up
00:27:40.870 --> 00:28:05.579 Dionne McGee: pen to paper a good old spreadsheet and doing a brain dump. What is it that they really need to know? To get off the ground and to get them to a place where they can get to the next level. So that ended up being 10 weeks of amazing content. And you are part of that as well. So thank you for the time that you have served with Incep. And so
00:28:05.580 --> 00:28:34.916 Dionne McGee: mentorship. It comes with mentorship. It now comes with web design. I fought the good fight on web design, I said. You know how many businesses are out here that have issues with broadband in Eastern North Carolina. They really can't reach their customer or client the way that they need to, because there's no website, right? There are some things that we can do on social media and social media is great. However, we need headquarters, a virtual headquarters, and they need
00:28:35.270 --> 00:29:00.979 Dionne McGee: some 6 figure plus websites. So I thought, too, for now I was like, I'm coming to you as someone from Eastern North Carolina, knowing what they need, and I need for them to be able to make money while they sleep, I said. You really have not become a business owner if you have to physically be somewhere at all times to generate revenue. Right? So I need them to have amazing websites. So they came back to me like Dan, we found the funding
00:29:01.310 --> 00:29:08.729 Dionne McGee: for the websites, and you would have thought that I was getting a website. Dr. That's how excited I was for those that were coming into.
00:29:08.730 --> 00:29:10.579 Mira Brancu: Feel like Oprah. You get a website, and you.
00:29:10.864 --> 00:29:20.259 Dionne McGee: Was like, you get a website, you get a web like one lady literally fell out of her chair on the zoom. I was like, is she okay? Like she lost her stuff.
00:29:21.080 --> 00:29:27.569 Dionne McGee: Tears crying, and I'm emotional like it. It was. It's this is what I tell folks. There's work.
00:29:27.650 --> 00:29:57.169 Dionne McGee: and then there's work that matters. This is the work that matters all that I did all those years in corporate. I was doing work, and I was making other people filthy rich. But it was not. I didn't feel the value in that. This is super rich, I am so fulfilled, I am so happy, and so are they to be able to make this impact and to offer them something that they never had have seen before in a different way, if you will. And so
00:29:57.763 --> 00:30:11.149 Dionne McGee: I'm just thrilled to have done it for the time that that I have. And it has grown in scale. We're in cohort number 7. That sounds crazy. Time has just flown. Yeah. So I'm thankful.
00:30:11.150 --> 00:30:31.289 Mira Brancu: Yeah, absolutely. So. When we come back, we're reaching an outbreak when we come back. To talk with the Oprah of website, access to Eastern North Carolina. We're gonna spend a little bit of time. Sort of like extrapolating from this. What do we need to know
00:30:31.440 --> 00:30:48.450 Mira Brancu: about what underserved communities need, especially entrepreneurs in underserved communities. So we'll be right back in just a moment again. We are live right now, if you want to share anything, ask any questions on Linkedin or youtube@talkradio.nyc.
00:30:48.530 --> 00:30:52.639 Mira Brancu: we're right here to answer them, and we'll be right back with our guests in just a moment.
00:32:55.710 --> 00:33:25.570 Mira Brancu: Welcome back to the hard skills with me, Dr. Mira Branco and our guest today, Dion Mcgee. And we did have a few more comments from Trish West on Talkradio, Dot, Nyc. On Linkedin, and she just absolutely loves her website. She must be one of your cohort members. She absolutely loves it, and she is a she out herself as a dualpreneur. So am I. I will out myself there, too, and how amazing she thinks that you are.
00:33:26.030 --> 00:33:51.009 Dionne McGee: Thank you. Trish, I miss you. We have to. We have to reconnect soon. So Pinkney creative is our web designer for all these fabulous websites. And this was the scope of work. Dr. Mira, I need for these participants to have a 6 figure plus website and for them to be able to generate revenue while they sleep at night. Now go off and be great. That was the scope, and she had done.
00:33:51.010 --> 00:33:51.540 Mira Brancu: I'm just.
00:33:51.540 --> 00:34:07.049 Dionne McGee: That, and she is even my web designer. So, to be fair and just, I offered our client 3 vendors, and you pick who has the best package, the the best product, and she will select it, and she has done it served us very well, so I'm thankful for that.
00:34:07.050 --> 00:34:12.759 Mira Brancu: That's awesome. That's awesome. We can share that around as well. So So
00:34:12.830 --> 00:34:18.620 Mira Brancu: you mentioned web design is critical. You mentioned mentorship is really important.
00:34:18.620 --> 00:34:19.080 Dionne McGee: Yes.
00:34:19.080 --> 00:34:27.140 Mira Brancu: What other things have you learned about access to resources for underserved communities like in Eastern North Carolina, that are so critical for entrepreneurs.
00:34:27.420 --> 00:34:45.730 Dionne McGee: The the base is the programming piece of it. Like every element of the cohort builds on the next piece, it's it's like going up the escalators like you have to have this foundation before you can get to the to the next piece of it right? And so it is structured in a way where
00:34:46.120 --> 00:35:10.780 Dionne McGee: they get the Aha moment right? Because a lot of times you can go take a course here and take a course there and then the dots don't connect, but this is so seamless and strategic that it just builds on the next, and you and and Trish will tell you as well, I am adamant about. This is not one of those classes you sign up for, and then say, Hey, I'm not gonna come today. We're looking for you every Tuesday and Thursday for 10
00:35:10.780 --> 00:35:16.329 Dionne McGee: weeks. Not unless something crucial has happened right. But the
00:35:16.520 --> 00:35:18.549 Dionne McGee: the mentorship piece of it
00:35:19.190 --> 00:35:47.010 Dionne McGee: I can honestly say that's what kept me together in corporate. I had mentors, and I had sponsors that allowed me to not blow my lid, and sometimes you have to have that real live person that you can bounce some things off of in business that you are dealing with in the moment, like what is it? What is it that you recommend. Who do you know that I need to know I've had this situation as far as my bookkeeping. Can you help me? I've never seen this before. So
00:35:47.170 --> 00:36:10.060 Dionne McGee: folks that have come in cohort, one have built relationships with those mentors, and they are still talking to each other. So it's not like the program is over and you can't talk anymore. Right? It's engaging. We've had one that was getting ready to go purchase a building. And her mentor went with her to this all the things and they just and and they are still friends
00:36:10.060 --> 00:36:22.559 Dionne McGee: to this day. So that's key to have that ear, that voice of reason, and someone that you can really talk to about what you're dealing with in business, and the last thing I'll say is access to capital.
00:36:23.401 --> 00:36:28.099 Mira Brancu: Can you say more about that? Yeah, say more about like, yeah.
00:36:28.290 --> 00:36:50.820 Dionne McGee: A lot of business. Owners really think that when it comes to business funding that they have to go to a conglomerate, and I'm not knocking a conglomerate because I used to work for one right, but at the end of the day that does not necessarily mean that you have to go to a large financial institution to get backing or financial backing for your business to get started. A lot of these folks are bootstrapping
00:36:51.130 --> 00:37:05.830 Dionne McGee: to be honest off of personal savings, right? And sometimes that's not enough to really scale it. The way that you need to scale it, which is why the National Institute of minority. Economic development has the icap arm. It is a lending arm where it has
00:37:06.100 --> 00:37:21.530 Dionne McGee: less red tape, if you will, for those that are, I'm just starting out for those that are minorities and trying to get their feet wet and figure out what this thing really looks like, because a lot of times folks are intimidated going into a bank, and they say, Hey, do you have a business plan
00:37:21.570 --> 00:37:49.310 Dionne McGee: like? No, I know in my mind what I plan. I plan on making some money, but I haven't written everything out just yet right. And so we also teach the lean canvas model which allows folks to get things out of their head on paper that can then morph into a business plan at some sort. But we also have that Funder that's available that doesn't have all the red tape and all the stress that comes along with getting a smaller
00:37:49.320 --> 00:37:56.570 Dionne McGee: loan 10,000 50,000 just to get get started or get your food truck going and those types of things. But
00:37:56.730 --> 00:38:24.289 Dionne McGee: if you don't come into a program like Incept, you'll never know what a Cfi really is a community development financial institution because you think you have to go to a bank to get funding. They don't know anything about angel investors. So these are things that we're teaching as well, and we even have what I call our speed funding session with a play on the speed dating where they get to meet different types of funders, and then they, the walls, are down. So you feel more comfortable to have that type of conversation.
00:38:24.620 --> 00:38:28.952 Mira Brancu: Yeah, I think that is absolutely amazing and critical. You know.
00:38:30.860 --> 00:38:39.469 Mira Brancu: not. Everybody has generational wealth. Some people are building it right now, and in order to do that you
00:38:39.470 --> 00:39:08.639 Mira Brancu: can't always follow the sort of most traditional paths, because they're not always open to you or available to you or you know. And so, having access to this kind of information, like the sort of navigating the unspoken rules, the the institutions that are there to support you, but you would never know about, and all of that is so important to helping underserved people who don't have access to the information, the resources, the capital, all of that.
00:39:09.470 --> 00:39:10.640 Dionne McGee: I couldn't agree more.
00:39:10.640 --> 00:39:20.709 Mira Brancu: Yeah, yeah, are there? Also, because we're talking about the hard skills on my show, soft skills, what soft skills have you noticed.
00:39:21.368 --> 00:39:23.559 Mira Brancu: Are important to develop
00:39:24.062 --> 00:39:31.920 Mira Brancu: as people start transitioning into entrepreneurship, and especially if it's within an underserved community or underserved populations.
00:39:32.710 --> 00:39:49.910 Dionne McGee: So I literally just left DC, the Aspen Institute, and we talked about some of the skills that entrepreneurs struggle with, and I'll give you a little bit of heart and and soft if you will, and that's that professional development. And I shared
00:39:50.130 --> 00:40:00.019 Dionne McGee: the struggle is most of the folks that have we've seen, I'll say, come through the cohort were initially individual contributors on their jobs.
00:40:00.020 --> 00:40:00.860 Mira Brancu: Right.
00:40:00.860 --> 00:40:28.390 Dionne McGee: And so they had a leader that was feeding them. Work! These are your assignments. These are the things that we need you to complete. So reduction of force may have happened, or whatever caused you to become an entrepreneur. Now, no one's giving you that assignment. You have to now be a creative right, and create these things, to generate revenue for your business. And now you find that you cannot do all the things by yourself, and you have to delegate
00:40:28.420 --> 00:40:33.510 Dionne McGee: to someone else what needs to to be done. And it's like
00:40:33.540 --> 00:40:43.130 Dionne McGee: I would rather do it myself because they're not gonna do it right. They're not gonna do it like I'm gonna do it. So I'm gonna have to do it again. So I might as well just do it right. And
00:40:43.140 --> 00:41:11.950 Dionne McGee: we're seeing. The leadership development is a challenge. We're seeing. The delegation is a challenge. We're seeing time management as a challenge. And because folks are burning a candle at both ends, and we all know when you start on this entrepreneur journey we take naps that you're not sleeping 8 h. You're not sleeping 8 h we take naps. Let's be honest, and one of the things I also say is oftentimes we make entrepreneurship. Look glamorous. It's not.
00:41:11.950 --> 00:41:27.810 Dionne McGee: and it's not for the faint at heart. So that's a hard skill to maintain, and but it's worth it. If you stay tried and true to it, it is worth it on the back end. But a lot of business owners struggle with
00:41:27.850 --> 00:41:42.130 Dionne McGee: time management. Some of them are struggling with that that budget as well. And so we have to learn how to hire people and and bring people on and for their specialty, so that we really can grow and so yeah.
00:41:42.825 --> 00:41:43.835 Mira Brancu: I'm wondering
00:41:44.720 --> 00:41:47.290 Mira Brancu: when it comes to leadership
00:41:47.420 --> 00:41:49.559 Mira Brancu: as kind of like a new identity.
00:41:50.209 --> 00:41:59.390 Mira Brancu: Which I love to talk about leadership as another social identity, right? Like, what have you seen as
00:42:00.050 --> 00:42:15.029 Mira Brancu: either challenges or things that entrepreneurs who are moving from individual contributor into this leadership role need to embrace or let go of in how they view leadership and how they take it on as a leader of their own company.
00:42:16.060 --> 00:42:17.923 Dionne McGee: So I this is one of my
00:42:18.470 --> 00:42:23.520 Dionne McGee: one of my analogies. I talk about the lion in the in the zoo and the lion in the jungle right.
00:42:24.020 --> 00:42:31.369 Dionne McGee: and the and the line in the Zoo is waiting on someone to come. Bring them a steak. They and they might look like a paycheck
00:42:31.370 --> 00:42:54.589 Dionne McGee: where the lion in the jungle is going to rule and reign by any means necessary, and he or she is going to create legacy and teach the cub what leadership really looks like. But one of the things that I'm seeing in transition, and folks honestly, just really getting started. Stay away from. We love our family, but sometimes our family members don't understand
00:42:54.590 --> 00:42:59.920 Dionne McGee: who it is that we really are when it comes to this entrepreneurship piece.
00:42:59.920 --> 00:43:22.882 Dionne McGee: and they know us as a family member, and they don't expect this other version of us. So I've I've had a lot of people come through the cohort that have had to fire family members, and it's coming up now which makes Thanksgiving a little difficult when you ask, Can you please press the cranberry sauce because you fired them, and they're a little upset. Right? But
00:43:23.440 --> 00:43:29.960 Dionne McGee: I want. I want and need for entrepreneurs to embrace.
00:43:30.930 --> 00:43:55.049 Dionne McGee: And your your subject matter is our leadership mines is project management. I want them to embrace the project management piece of business, the operation side of business, and to really look ahead if you will to forecast some things, and everything is not a fire drill. Everything is not. Oh, I got to do this right now that there's a strategic plan for
00:43:55.050 --> 00:44:04.289 Dionne McGee: your business, and I think that will allow some of our entrepreneurs to put the shoulders down, and to really be able to enjoy the journey
00:44:04.290 --> 00:44:16.450 Dionne McGee: instead of Oh, my God, I'm an entrepreneur. I have to generate this type of income or revenue before the month closes. But you're trying to do all the things, but there's no process in place. There's no
00:44:16.610 --> 00:44:31.879 Dionne McGee: leadership delegation in place, and so I'm having those hard conversations with folks as well. And let's hire some folks that don't have your last name or or bloodline that really understand where it is that you want and and need to go so.
00:44:31.880 --> 00:44:32.650 Mira Brancu: Yeah,
00:44:35.040 --> 00:44:38.940 Mira Brancu: I have a question for you, but we're reaching an ad break. I'm gonna hold on to it.
00:44:38.940 --> 00:44:39.770 Dionne McGee: Okay, I, just.
00:44:39.770 --> 00:45:03.339 Mira Brancu: Absolutely love that you brought this up, though the the project management piece is an undervalued under recognized skill set for leaders, and I can't tell you how many leaders drive their employees crazy because they don't have the skill set. So when we come back from the ad break, I'd love to dig in to how you
00:45:03.833 --> 00:45:24.770 Mira Brancu: think about and teach around project management. What do leaders need to know? And then also, maybe a little bit about your your roar framework. And that piece. Okay? So we air on Tuesdays at 5 pm. The hard skills with Dion Griffin Mcgee here, author of finding your roar, and we'll be right back in just a moment.
00:47:28.160 --> 00:47:33.200 Mira Brancu: Welcome back to the hard skills with me. Dr. Miro Branku and our guest today. Dion Mcgee.
00:47:35.240 --> 00:47:39.910 Mira Brancu: project management. Oh, my gosh! I'm so glad that you mentioned that.
00:47:39.910 --> 00:47:40.469 Dionne McGee: That is a.
00:47:40.470 --> 00:47:47.450 Mira Brancu: Critical skill set for leaders. We don't talk about that enough. Tell me, tell us the audience.
00:47:47.550 --> 00:47:56.959 Mira Brancu: why is that critical? What do most leaders miss with this that can cause a massive impact on their business and outcomes.
00:47:58.250 --> 00:48:11.539 Dionne McGee: So I'll I'll 1st say that I I didn't realize I was a project manager. It took me a minute to realize that I was right. And so I was like, Oh, this is a thing. This is a real thing. And so for those that don't know it really started with the
00:48:11.790 --> 00:48:35.660 Dionne McGee: construction industry and just morphed across all industries, and it is a necessary tool and skill set to have whether you get the credentials that go along with it or not. Right. There are a lot of folks that are doing very well as a certified associate project manager, and some understand the framework without the credentials. But it's necessary, in order for your business
00:48:35.660 --> 00:49:02.129 Dionne McGee: to really grow and scale the way that it needs to. Otherwise you're doing a lot of rework, and and that's something. And rework costs money right? So we want to. Once we want to do it right. And we want to move on to the next thing. So I will. I'm not an affiliate, but everyone that knows me knows that I will use monday.com until I can't use it anymore. That is my platform of choice.
00:49:02.310 --> 00:49:27.130 Dionne McGee: And that is how I keep all things together. Whether it's a program, whether it's a cohort, a course, a conference. I have to have it because as entrepreneurs, we're thinkers. And if you're not thinking and noting and putting deadlines and milestones, I'm just gonna give it to you at the base level. Right? It is your ideas, if you will. Action items, if you will.
00:49:27.130 --> 00:49:51.949 Dionne McGee: with milestone dates around them. Documentation. I'm that person. If you didn't document it, it did not happen. And so, and if you have a team, if you're not that solopreneur you want to delegate, and that's where you can make assignments to your team members. But even if you are the solopreneur, this is how you keep up with what it is that you said that you were going to do in your business, and it is necessary.
00:49:51.950 --> 00:50:04.480 Dionne McGee: Drive my husband bananas with project management. My whole family is project managed, and he has literally said to me, You're not going to project management. And I said, You know what, baby? You're absolutely right. I had to, honey, do this right.
00:50:04.640 --> 00:50:29.599 Dionne McGee: And so I said, Well, do me a favor. This is one day he was supposed to be working on this honey. Do list, and I wrote down all the things that I needed done around the house, I said, just take this sticky with you, and when you finish doing all the things on the list, check it off and bring me the sticky back. But I promise you I'm not going to project. Manage you. And he had no idea he was still being project. I laughed about it. When he walked out of my office. I got the things got done, Dr. Murray. They got done.
00:50:30.620 --> 00:50:33.239 Mira Brancu: That's hilarious. But yes, yes.
00:50:33.380 --> 00:50:34.240 Mira Brancu: so
00:50:35.970 --> 00:50:42.739 Mira Brancu: folks. We've talked here about delegating time, management, project, management, leadership, identity.
00:50:44.470 --> 00:50:47.949 Mira Brancu: so many access to resources, mentorship.
00:50:48.314 --> 00:50:56.459 Mira Brancu: and even quote unquote, simple things like web design makes a difference, all of these little things making the difference. So now let's
00:50:56.970 --> 00:51:00.030 Mira Brancu: take a step back. Big picture again.
00:51:01.238 --> 00:51:02.989 Mira Brancu: You now have
00:51:03.600 --> 00:51:11.439 Mira Brancu: courses, conferences you're putting together. Where? Where are you headed? What's your sort of next
00:51:11.550 --> 00:51:14.329 Mira Brancu: big thing for for us to learn about.
00:51:14.830 --> 00:51:25.569 Dionne McGee: The next big thing for us to learn about is sometimes I won't even say, sometimes business and entrepreneurship is simply being a solution to a problem.
00:51:25.580 --> 00:51:45.270 Dionne McGee: That's it in a nutshell, right? And who has the problem. So I'll say this when it comes to our Aurora conferences. That is not something that I had on my list of things to do, nor did I ever intend on being an author right, but I could not sleep at night like. Every night. I would wake up for months
00:51:45.380 --> 00:51:59.310 Dionne McGee: at 2 and 3 o'clock in the morning with all these ideas for what should be curated at a conference I was like, I know, doggone. Well, I'm not supposed to have a conference. Maybe my, this dream ended up at the wrong person. That's another.
00:51:59.730 --> 00:52:18.830 Dionne McGee: because I know I'm not right, but I have a heart and a passion for those that are still in the workplace, and feel stuck and stagnant, not really knowing what what it looks like to break that glass ceiling, or at least crack it right. And then, for those that are on this entrepreneurial journey.
00:52:19.160 --> 00:52:44.150 Dionne McGee: We want to talk to them as well. So the conference is around growth and scalability for those that are on the career track or the entrepreneur journey. I have a special place in my heart for women. Men are welcome, so please don't walk away from here and saying the conference is not for me, and the content is for all. But it is designed for women. I have one friends like I'm coming regardless. I want you to come. So we had
00:52:44.150 --> 00:52:50.230 Dionne McGee: good 10 or so men at the last last conference. So I'm excited about that. But what's next?
00:52:50.880 --> 00:52:55.239 Dionne McGee: After several conferences? Masterclasses events. People want to know.
00:52:55.290 --> 00:53:07.280 Dionne McGee: How are you doing this? How are you selling out? How do I curate a conference without stress? How do I find the sponsors? How do I come up with the project plan again, project management
00:53:07.880 --> 00:53:34.659 Dionne McGee: backbone. And I have more calls and emails behind that. So right now, we're working on that course to help folks create their own events and yeah create their own events, and not even if if you're not even ready for a full blown conference, whether that looks like a masterclass or summit something on a smaller scale to get your feet wet. We want to help with that. So that's what we're working on now. So I'm super duper excited about that. So that's where we are.
00:53:34.660 --> 00:53:43.340 Mira Brancu: That is super exciting before I share your 2 websites. What is one thing that you want people to take away from today?
00:53:43.870 --> 00:53:55.569 Dionne McGee: What I want people to take away from today is regardless of where you are at this current moment, whether you are in the workforce, or you are on this entrepreneurial journey.
00:53:55.570 --> 00:54:14.319 Dionne McGee: I want you to have the mindset of the lion in leadership and to be relentless, optimistic, ambitious, and results driven about. All it is that you are doing what is on your path for growth and scalability. And last thing I'll say is this.
00:54:14.320 --> 00:54:34.199 Dionne McGee: ask for what you need. A lot of us are afraid to ask for help, and I'm in a season of my life. I feel like I have planted some some great seeds. So if I need something, I'm asking my network. Hey, you specialize in this? Can you help me with this? Can you be a mentor on this program. Can you do this right? Because I'm giving those same things back out in the world. So.
00:54:34.200 --> 00:54:38.109 Mira Brancu: Absolutely. And if you want to ask for what you need from Dion.
00:54:39.320 --> 00:54:50.979 Mira Brancu: where can they find more information for those who are watching right now live, or the video. Later, I have the screen up for you to see the website. But for those who are listening, where can they go?
00:54:51.400 --> 00:55:15.170 Dionne McGee: They can go to dgmcgee.com. All things needed are there? So we talk about some of our programs. We also talk about opportunities for speaking engagements. If you're looking for that roar, speaker would love to grace your stage at your upcoming events. We also have some digital products. We have some guides and
00:55:15.250 --> 00:55:30.819 Dionne McGee: articles to help you get to where it is that you need to be right there on the roar store. So for those that are looking to grow in their careers. We have some workbooks there for you, for those that are on that entrepreneurial track. We have some workbooks there, for you. Everyone cannot
00:55:31.200 --> 00:55:57.920 Dionne McGee: specifically sometimes hire a coach, but we can give you some some plans to help you get to where it is that you need to be. And one of the things that our clients really love is that one day Vip, will. I just go in and spend a whole day with you and help you unpack some things and come up with a strategic plan. And of course, finding your roar is also available on the website and Amazon for those that have those Amazon credit cards. I get that all the time, like
00:55:57.920 --> 00:56:12.779 Dionne McGee: I got to shop at Amazon because I get points. Well, go shop at Amazon. But yeah, so that's that's where we are. And then, of course, there's also the Incel program, that is, ENCE. p.org for those that are interested in the program. So.
00:56:13.070 --> 00:56:23.129 Mira Brancu: Awesome. Thank you so much. And you you all heard about her. Her framework roar right? What does this stand for? Again, Dion?
00:56:23.130 --> 00:56:40.029 Dionne McGee: Relentless, optimistic, ambitious, and results driven. We teach you how to do that in your career as well as on your entrepreneurial journey, giving you those tips, tools, and strategies so that you can grow and scale and also check us out on where? Where are we? Linkedin.
00:56:40.030 --> 00:56:58.419 Dionne McGee: Facebook, Instagram? All the places that is, at Dg. Mcgee motivates and Dion Dg. Mcgee on Linkedin, which is my favorite platform of all platforms. Because I come from corporate. I'm probably account number 2. That's how long I've been on there. When people were on Myspace I was on Linkedin.
00:56:58.450 --> 00:57:15.000 Mira Brancu: Alright. So what did you all take away from today? And more importantly, what is one small change you can implement this week, based on what you learned from Dion. Share it with us on Linkedin. That's where we live. And @talkradio.nyc, so we could cheer you on
00:57:15.000 --> 00:57:28.689 Mira Brancu: talk. Radio is also on Facebook, Instagram, Twitter twitch all over the place as well as on apple spotify Amazon, Podcast please help increase our visibility and reach by leaving a review and listening there.
00:57:29.130 --> 00:57:39.499 Mira Brancu: Thank you to talkradio dot Nyc. For hosting. I'm Dr. Mira Braku, your host of the Hard Skill show, and thank you for joining us today, Dionne Mcgee. We loved having you.
00:57:39.950 --> 00:57:42.309 Dionne McGee: Absolutely. I had a blast. Thank you, Dr. Murphy.
00:57:42.310 --> 00:57:51.579 Mira Brancu: It was a blast. Always love listening to you. You're always an inspiration, and always wonderful with the words, Have a great rest of your day, everybody, wherever you're tuning in from bye.
00:57:52.120 --> 00:57:52.970 Dionne McGee: Bye, bye.
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