EPISODE SUMMARY:
The audience will see Frank and Karen discuss Breast Cancer with a medical professional from the American Cancer Society in Chicago along with a survivor.
For this month we will be medically focused as we discuss breast cancer awareness as well as the life experience of a survivor. Facts and figures on Breast Cancer will be presented by a representative from the American Cancer Society.
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00:00:46.850 --> 00:00:58.410 Frank R. Harrison: Hey, everybody, and welcome to a new episode of Frank about health. It is October 3, rd 2024, and October is breast cancer. Awareness month. That is, in fact, the name of this episode
00:00:58.500 --> 00:01:06.739 Frank R. Harrison: overall. I'm happy to be here again with Karen. Unfortunately, I'm sorry, Karen, that I'm not in Chicago, but I promise November I will be there.
00:01:07.080 --> 00:01:12.980 Karen Ross - KarenRossNow.com: Well, I hope so. I I miss you, and we always have a nice dinner after the show, so we'll.
00:01:12.980 --> 00:01:15.130 Frank R. Harrison: You know the chicken pot pie we had last time.
00:01:15.130 --> 00:01:16.860 Karen Ross - KarenRossNow.com: Very good. Sounds like a
00:01:17.070 --> 00:01:17.970 Karen Ross - KarenRossNow.com: plan.
00:01:18.400 --> 00:01:30.229 Frank R. Harrison: Like a plan. But I'm also here, thanks again to Karen, and thanks also to James Haynes, who represents integrated marketing. He's the director of integrated marketing at the American Cancer Society.
00:01:30.300 --> 00:01:49.270 Frank R. Harrison: who brought 2 special guests onto the show today that are medical professionals who have been focused on cancer research cancer cures, cancer studies, demographics, other ethnographies. The list goes on. But again, we are talking about breast cancer. But the American Cancer Society represents all types of cancer
00:01:49.310 --> 00:01:59.380 Frank R. Harrison: and all. And for those of you out there who know that my father has been recovering from prostate cancer. I obviously am going to be taking a student view of this particular program
00:01:59.520 --> 00:02:15.110 Frank R. Harrison: that being said in segment one. We're going to hear 1st from Dr. Kathleen Goss, who is going to talk about what the American Cancer Society has been doing over the past few months, few years just in general, and how we look forward, how we are going to be
00:02:15.220 --> 00:02:34.749 Frank R. Harrison: looking at cancer in the future, you know, and then we will hear from a radiologist who, a breast radiologist in segment, 2. Who's going to also show some facts and figures, and, thanks to the technology of Zoom, I'll be able to help display some of those pieces of information.
00:02:34.860 --> 00:02:40.030 Frank R. Harrison: Now I have to issue my disclaimer. But it's not a typical disclaimer, because, quite frankly.
00:02:40.770 --> 00:02:45.140 Frank R. Harrison: this is a medical program. For the 1st time in
00:02:45.330 --> 00:02:48.630 Frank R. Harrison: the 3 and a half years that I've been doing this podcast. So therefore.
00:02:48.700 --> 00:02:55.319 Frank R. Harrison: this episode does not represent the views or thoughts of frank about health or talkradio dot Nyc.
00:02:55.380 --> 00:03:15.249 Frank R. Harrison: But you will learn throughout the hour, through medical research and through facts and figures, how the American Cancer Society is representing the country in helping to find solutions and advocate for all types of cancer. So I hope you enjoy what we will present over the next hour. So that being, said.
00:03:15.320 --> 00:03:21.159 Frank R. Harrison: Dr. Goss, I'm going to open up the floor and let you take over the show and educate all of us.
00:03:21.840 --> 00:03:49.195 Kathy Goss, PhD (she/her): Awesome. Thank you. Thank you, Frank, so much. And and, Karen, it's a thrill to be here. And know it's going to be a great program. So in a really important discussion, this month is so valuable for really raising awareness, across the country, just about breast cancer facts and figures and screening, and the importance of taking care of yourself, and also
00:03:49.610 --> 00:04:17.920 Kathy Goss, PhD (she/her): advocating for those that you know, that have been touched by breast cancer and also sharing the great work that all of us are doing to really reduce the devastating effects of this disease. So I'm really thrilled to be here. And what I'd like to do in the next few minutes is really share what the American Cancer Society does to tackle this problem. And
00:04:18.149 --> 00:04:39.510 Kathy Goss, PhD (she/her): you know, and and I'd really like to highlight our 3 mission what we call pillars, advocacy, research, and patient support. So I'll talk about each of those. But let me at the outset start by saying our mission is to end cancer as we know it for everyone, and that for everyone piece is really really important.
00:04:39.510 --> 00:04:52.160 Kathy Goss, PhD (she/her): because we know that there are so many. And you doing this show, Frank, I'm sure you have talked about. There are so many inequities, and and challenges and barriers for people to access, care
00:04:52.561 --> 00:05:09.020 Kathy Goss, PhD (she/her): for a variety of chronic diseases and and other things. And so it's really important that we are sort of at the hallmark of everything. The center of everything is that we want to make sure that we're addressing those inequities.
00:05:09.020 --> 00:05:23.927 Kathy Goss, PhD (she/her): So let me just touch on the advocacy piece. So we have a sister organization called the American Cancer Society cancer Action network, and this is an advocacy part of our organization which really
00:05:24.570 --> 00:05:49.270 Kathy Goss, PhD (she/her): works at all levels of government, to advocate on behalf of public policies and advanced public policies that support things like access to care to cancer care as well as cancer research. And so just one example that's really and that's in all 50 states and in Guam and in Puerto Rico that we that we do this work.
00:05:49.270 --> 00:06:10.039 Kathy Goss, PhD (she/her): But one just example that is really important from a breast cancer standpoint is protecting Federal and State funding for programs like the Cdc's national breast and Cervical cancer early Detection program. So there are in each and every State.
00:06:10.040 --> 00:06:35.939 Kathy Goss, PhD (she/her): The Cdc program has local programs in which people can access for free and discounted care if you're uninsured or underinsured. So that's really really important for that piece about improving access for everyone. So that advocacy piece is really so important. Let's talk about research. That's what's near and dear to my heart. I'm a cancer researcher
00:06:35.940 --> 00:07:00.809 Kathy Goss, PhD (she/her): by training. And I'm really lucky at the American Cancer Society. I get to run part of our extramural or external research program. These are grants that we give to investigators all over the country to do really groundbreaking cancer research. And so we're currently funding about 450 million dollars in research across the country.
00:07:01.580 --> 00:07:16.399 Kathy Goss, PhD (she/her): We're the second largest funder of cancer research next to the the Federal Government. So we give a lot out a lot of a lot of dollars to research. And over the last several decades. It's actually
00:07:16.860 --> 00:07:36.929 Kathy Goss, PhD (she/her): added up to about 5 billion dollars in research that has gone out the door to institutions across the country specifically in breast cancer. Right now, we're funding about 76 million dollars in breast cancer research. And over the last 30 years or so we funded more than 400,
00:07:36.930 --> 00:07:49.043 Kathy Goss, PhD (she/her): 20 million dollars in breast cancer research. So and this is in prevention, detection, treatment and survivorship. So all over that care continuum
00:07:50.140 --> 00:08:17.529 Kathy Goss, PhD (she/her): for patients. So that research piece is so important. But what people might not know is that we also have an intramural research program at Acs. So inside the organization, we have an outstanding world renowned research team. And they are ones that are really focused on what are the root causes of cancer? What is the impact of behavioral and environmental risk factors
00:08:17.530 --> 00:08:38.899 Kathy Goss, PhD (she/her): and what things like social drivers of health, what things influence outcomes. So how can we reduce some of those factors and improve outcomes. They're also responsible for doing things like developing evidence-based
00:08:39.010 --> 00:09:03.589 Kathy Goss, PhD (she/her): screening guidelines. So we know that screening for breast cancer is critical to detect the disease early. And you're going to hear much more about that from my colleague Deepa. But you know there are scientists at the American Cancer Society who review all the evidence out there from studies and say, Okay, well, what should the screening
00:09:03.590 --> 00:09:21.080 Kathy Goss, PhD (she/her): guidelines? B. And I know they can be confusing for people. But it's really important that they are evidence-based, and that we spread the word about those screening guidelines. And we have screening guidelines for other kinds of cancer that we can
00:09:21.440 --> 00:09:34.770 Kathy Goss, PhD (she/her): screen for. But in breast cancer. Let's just review some of those screening guidelines really quickly. And and it's important to recognize that this is for average risk patients.
00:09:34.780 --> 00:09:49.590 Kathy Goss, PhD (she/her): So Deepa is going to talk a bit more about what it looks like for those patients that are higher risk. So you have a family history of breast cancer or other factors that make you at higher risk. But if you're at average risk.
00:09:49.590 --> 00:10:12.559 Kathy Goss, PhD (she/her): then you know, between the ages of 40 and 44. Our guidelines recommend that you have the option to get screened so that you should talk with your physician about getting a mammogram every year and starting your annual mammogram. During that time period between 40 and 44.
00:10:13.320 --> 00:10:38.070 Kathy Goss, PhD (she/her): Of course, during between ages 45, and 54. Our recommendation is that women are getting screened every single year, and that's really important that every year piece is really important, so that if any changes are seen that they can be followed up on quickly. And so again, the goal is to detect anything abnormal. Detect that early.
00:10:38.180 --> 00:10:58.339 Kathy Goss, PhD (she/her): and then for ages 55, and older that you can. The recommendation is that you can switch to screening by a mammogram every other year, if you'd like, or you can continue to do it every year. So again, this should be a conversation with your physician.
00:10:59.178 --> 00:11:13.469 Kathy Goss, PhD (she/her): About whether or not you should continue every year or go every other year, and this should continue until you know, as long as the woman is in good health. And that and really what we say is, if
00:11:13.470 --> 00:11:33.260 Kathy Goss, PhD (she/her): if someone is expected to live at least 10 more years, that screening is really really important. So I think it's always I know it's a hassle for women to remember to schedule their mammograms and be really on top of it. But it's incredibly important as we know it really saves lives.
00:11:33.795 --> 00:11:34.210 Kathy Goss, PhD (she/her): Yeah.
00:11:34.330 --> 00:11:49.499 Kathy Goss, PhD (she/her): The other thing that I just wanted to be sure that I talked about in our research program is that we have a team that is focused on surveillance, health surveillance and health equity. And they just produced, just a couple of days ago this new paper, a new report
00:11:49.590 --> 00:12:06.209 Kathy Goss, PhD (she/her): that was specifically focused on breast cancer facts and figures. And you're going to hear more about some of the statistics. But I wanted to really highlight a couple of key findings from that study since it just came out.
00:12:06.210 --> 00:12:22.820 Kathy Goss, PhD (she/her): Certainly we're really proud of the fact in the cancer community that breast cancer, death rates have dropped significantly over the last several decades, but not every population is benefiting from that.
00:12:22.820 --> 00:12:42.160 Kathy Goss, PhD (she/her): And so it's really important to recognize that especially American, Indian and Alaskan native women have high rates, and that there are other disparities, especially in young women in that population and in others.
00:12:42.160 --> 00:12:59.029 Kathy Goss, PhD (she/her): And it's really important also that while black women often have the same incidence of breast cancer, their mortality is significantly higher. So obviously, there are lots of things we can do to address that.
00:12:59.030 --> 00:13:01.140 Frank R. Harrison: You have a slide to show on that, don't you?
00:13:01.469 --> 00:13:15.649 Kathy Goss, PhD (she/her): I don't have a slide to show on that. But actually, what I am gonna share is that we are doing a study to try to figure out why that is and how we do something about that. So I'm going to share
00:13:16.790 --> 00:13:33.659 Kathy Goss, PhD (she/her): one. Let's see, this is the one I wanted to show hope. You can see that this study called Voices of black women. So this is a is a what we call a cohort study. And and we're recruiting women who have never had a breast cancer diagnosis.
00:13:33.660 --> 00:13:56.120 Kathy Goss, PhD (she/her): but can participate too, so that we can follow them over time. And they complete surveys so that we can touch on what is causing their breast cancer, what's increasing their risk of breast cancer over time. So this is and other kinds of cancer. So this is just one example of that
00:13:56.360 --> 00:14:17.809 Kathy Goss, PhD (she/her): of that of the work that we're doing. I'm going to wrap up. I know we need to. You're gonna kick me off and go to break. But let me just share an important piece of of what Acs does, too, to support patients and their families. It's education. So I'd encourage people to go to cancer.org.
00:14:17.810 --> 00:14:35.070 Kathy Goss, PhD (she/her): we have some screening resources here@cancer.org slash, get screened, or you can find screening providers if you don't know where to go in your community. We also. This is what it looks like. You can
00:14:36.190 --> 00:14:51.194 Kathy Goss, PhD (she/her): screening location near you. And then another tool that I wanted just to show really quickly. And this is all through our cancer.org website is this defender tool, and this can help you. Look at your
00:14:52.110 --> 00:15:19.749 Kathy Goss, PhD (she/her): at what screening tests are right for you. Actually, this is through a partnership with the Nfl called crucial crucial catch. So you just take a quick online tool. Quiz, and it can help you. See what screening you know, what's what risk you are, and then what screening test is right for you. And then the last thing I just want to show is this new app that we have that's called Acs cares.
00:15:19.770 --> 00:15:45.340 Kathy Goss, PhD (she/her): And this is just one way to access all the resources that we have. If you've been diagnosed with breast cancer or someone that you care about has. It's an app that you can download from the app store, and then it's as if you've got all these tools right there in your hand to help navigate this really tough journey and give you the information that you need. So.
00:15:45.340 --> 00:16:04.169 Kathy Goss, PhD (she/her): anyway, I will stop sharing that and let you move on to the next to the next segment. But I just wanted to thank you again for allowing us to talk about the American Cancer Society and our mission, and all the resources that we have available.
00:16:04.390 --> 00:16:24.380 Frank R. Harrison: Well, it was my pleasure, and I will do you justice by during our next, our 1st commercial break. I will show that website for everyone to look at, including how to reach out and stuff like that. Almost like I'm doing an entire tour of sorts. But, more importantly, I already have one question which I will ask you when we return, and then we will hear from
00:16:24.380 --> 00:16:37.130 Frank R. Harrison: our breast. Radiologist, Dr. Deepa Shet. So, ladies and gentlemen, please stay tuned. As Karen and I are celebrating on Frank about health, breast cancer awareness month. We're not only celebrating, we're advocating and educating.
00:16:37.130 --> 00:16:56.279 Frank R. Harrison: so stay tuned right here on Talkradionyc and on our socials, Youtube, Linkedin, Facebook and Twitch. And please, if any of you out there have any questions, this is almost like an educational seminar. Ask away, and we will be there to answer them. Live. So we'll be back in a few stay tuned.
00:19:08.630 --> 00:19:15.560 Frank R. Harrison: Hey, everybody, and welcome back. I hope I did justice during the commercial break as I went through each link. Get the phone number. Good. I'm glad.
00:19:15.898 --> 00:19:30.929 Frank R. Harrison: But I did have one question. You were referencing the article. The new Acs report about breast cancer mortality. I'm looking at it right here on my side computer. Can you give a little bit more information on that? Because, you know, I think I did mention in the early part of the program.
00:19:31.000 --> 00:19:40.899 Frank R. Harrison: It was a very interesting 3 and a half years watching my father go through and mix medications, and actually, at age 93 recover from prostate.
00:19:40.900 --> 00:19:41.890 Kathy Goss, PhD (she/her): Oh!
00:19:42.497 --> 00:19:52.629 Frank R. Harrison: There are the side effects that are expected, especially at his age, but they're manageable, and trust me with other stresses that are going on. Health related stresses in my life right now
00:19:52.690 --> 00:20:00.160 Frank R. Harrison: that I can actually put the bottom of my bucket list because I know that he's been taken good care of, but that being said.
00:20:00.570 --> 00:20:06.240 Frank R. Harrison: he would be a misnomer, or he would be the analog, the what's the right word? The exception.
00:20:06.240 --> 00:20:06.830 Kathy Goss, PhD (she/her): Yeah.
00:20:06.830 --> 00:20:16.160 Frank R. Harrison: The outlier. Thank you to the mortality rate research that you've done so. Would you like to address like how my father might fit into that kind of situation.
00:20:16.700 --> 00:20:43.960 Kathy Goss, PhD (she/her): Yeah, we know that these types of population studies are so important because it gives us a really a high level view of what's going on in a population. But we know that that's just a really high level view, and that there are individuals with each of these that are represented here and sometimes there can be outliers. But what's important is that when we.
00:20:44.000 --> 00:20:50.709 Kathy Goss, PhD (she/her): you know, when we monitor these statistics over time, we can see changes in
00:20:50.970 --> 00:21:12.440 Kathy Goss, PhD (she/her): both incidence and mortality. These trends are so critical because it tells us what we need to do moving forward. So you know, as an example, I mentioned this difference that we're seeing for American Indian Alaska native women that are getting cancer earlier. And it's it's really deadly for them.
00:21:12.440 --> 00:21:25.210 Kathy Goss, PhD (she/her): And it's and it's so important because it says, well, maybe some of our intervention efforts need to focus specifically on those populations. There are other data from our recent
00:21:25.690 --> 00:21:44.040 Kathy Goss, PhD (she/her): general cancer facts and figures that told us that early age onset colorectal cancer is a really important emerging problem. So now we need to focus on screening those younger people. So my point is is that by following these trends
00:21:44.040 --> 00:21:56.339 Kathy Goss, PhD (she/her): it's so important to guide our next steps where we need more research where we need interventions, and where we need to educate and focus on
00:21:56.340 --> 00:22:15.630 Kathy Goss, PhD (she/her): really both the professional community as well as the general population, about awareness and reducing risk. So I think in general it's fascinating, but we have to realize this is just averages, and that people, every individual is so different.
00:22:16.520 --> 00:22:24.260 Frank R. Harrison: Amazing. Well, now we're going to hear from our resident breast radiologist, Dr. Deepa Shett.
00:22:24.812 --> 00:22:31.699 Frank R. Harrison: I I know you work with the American cancer society. But you're affiliated with a different hospital system. Correct.
00:22:31.990 --> 00:23:00.670 Deepa Sheth: Yeah. Well, 1st of all, thanks for having me, Frank Karen. What a pleasure to be on your platform and get to sort of talk about that which I'm so passionate about breast cancer. You know. I really want to make it my mission to educate and spread awareness about breast cancer. And although October is certainly the month for breast cancer awareness, we want to sort of continue this conversation year long, you know, and keep talking about it and making sure that people are aware about it. So I appreciate you guys taking time apart, you know, to talk to me and Kathleen about this.
00:23:00.740 --> 00:23:26.930 Deepa Sheth: I've actually been involved with the American Cancer Society since I was a resident. So in 2015 I got granted a young investigator award what Kathy was talking about, you know, like inspiring and fueling research initiatives and young physicians. And so, yeah, the rest is history. I've been with them since then. And now that I'm working out in private practice. I really get to see everything that Kathy's talking about. And so
00:23:26.970 --> 00:23:50.119 Deepa Sheth: let's sort of talk about breast imaging. Let's demystify this fear that people may have about mammograms and cancer, and like, what does it involve? So 1st of all, I'm a breast radiologist, and that means that I am the 1st person that's going to detect this cancer on your screening mammogram. Right? So it is my job to detect it at its earliest stage possible, because we know that's what leads to the best overall outcomes.
00:23:50.140 --> 00:24:06.850 Deepa Sheth: So when you get come in for a screening mammogram and based on the guidelines that Kathy kind of you know, mentioned right? So you're going to start at between 40 to 45. But depending on your risk, you're going to come in for a mammogram, and you're going to get 2 images each of your breast, and then you're going to go home.
00:24:07.000 --> 00:24:21.409 Deepa Sheth: And then your radiologist is going to read these mammograms on a separate day, and then send you a report in the mail, letting you know that whether something is fine, and I'll see you next year, or whether there's something there. And I just need some more images. So come on back so we can do a few more images.
00:24:21.560 --> 00:24:40.540 Deepa Sheth: Now, breast cancer statistics right? We know that one in 8 women will get breast cancer in their lifetime, one in 8. I want you to think about that, like I think. Think about your mother, your sister, your daughters, your nieces, your grandmother. That's probably 8 women right there in your life, right? So one in 8. That's a really high number.
00:24:40.600 --> 00:24:51.139 Deepa Sheth: And that's just the average risk for breast cancer. And we know that this year alone 330,000 women will be diagnosed with invasive breast cancer. So it's a huge problem.
00:24:51.470 --> 00:25:03.439 Deepa Sheth: And so when you come and get diagnosed with that breast cancer and or you come in and get a mammogram that's abnormal. You're going to come in to see me again, and I'm going to do a biopsy. And we're going to help diagnose what kind of breast cancer you may have.
00:25:03.680 --> 00:25:10.429 Deepa Sheth: Now, when we talk about risk factors, you know, Kathy was talking about risk factors and how we can modify some of this.
00:25:10.670 --> 00:25:33.050 Deepa Sheth: There are certainly things that we can modify with breast cancer and things that we can't modify in terms of our risks, so things that we can modify and help decrease our risk. Things we've all heard before, and things we don't want to hear like maintaining a healthy weight, eating, right walking, and exercising. You know things that those all actually modify and decrease your risk for breast cancer.
00:25:33.370 --> 00:25:45.130 Deepa Sheth: There's also some unique ones, you know, that are inherent to women. And so actually having children at a young age that can decrease your risk for breast cancer, breastfeeding that can decrease your risk for breast cancer.
00:25:45.220 --> 00:26:04.649 Deepa Sheth: But then there are things that we can't modify right? Unfortunately, being a female, that alone is greater risk for breast cancer than being a male, and we'll talk about male breast cancer in a little bit. But being a female aging as you get older, your risk for breast cancer increases. So every decade you have a greater chance of breast cancer than the decade before that
00:26:05.321 --> 00:26:10.950 Deepa Sheth: getting radiation, as a child, you know, from like lymphoma, that's a risk factor for breast cancer.
00:26:10.980 --> 00:26:23.000 Deepa Sheth: And then the last thing is this new concept called breast density. And, Frank, this is where I'm going to need your help in a second. Here I need you to jump in and show that schematic. And so what is breast density?
00:26:23.080 --> 00:26:41.179 Deepa Sheth: This is a term that radiologists use to describe the density of your breast, and as we're going to see in just a second, I can't look at you and know what your breast density is. It's not something I can see, it's not something I can feel on a physical exam. It is purely a term that we see based off of your mammogram.
00:26:41.190 --> 00:27:07.579 Deepa Sheth: And so hopefully, everyone can see this schematic, but this shows 4 different breast densities, and going from the left side of the screen to the right side of the screen, I hope you can appreciate that the mammogram appears to be getting wider right. There appears to be more breast tissue in each of these mammograms, and so I'm not sure, Frank, if we can make it even bigger. Just so everyone can see the differences between them.
00:27:07.940 --> 00:27:16.060 Deepa Sheth: Yeah, there you are, okay, so perfect. So you can see breast density comes in 4 flavors, 4 categories.
00:27:16.090 --> 00:27:24.730 Deepa Sheth: and as you increase in the breast tissue, which is the white area on that mammogram, your breast density increases.
00:27:24.810 --> 00:27:33.540 Deepa Sheth: and you may ask what that gray area is. Then? Right? So there's a combination of this white tissue and this gray tissue. The gray tissue is your adipose or fatty tissue.
00:27:33.700 --> 00:27:40.829 Deepa Sheth: And so, as you increase in the white, the density increases. And why am I like hemming and hawing over this breast density.
00:27:40.890 --> 00:28:01.130 Deepa Sheth: We know that having increased breast density, or having wider breast tissue, as you can see on the right side of the screen, leads to an increased risk for breast cancer. And so, if you put 2 deepas right, 2 of me, one with low breast density and one with high breast density. But I matched in age. I matched my background. I matched in my lifestyle
00:28:01.250 --> 00:28:08.740 Deepa Sheth: the depot, with greater breast density has a 4 to 6 times more increased risk for breast cancer than the depot with low breast density.
00:28:09.120 --> 00:28:27.520 Deepa Sheth: Now we have new guidelines. The Federal Government has issued new guidelines that every patient needs to know about this. This is so important that everyone needs to know about this. So, starting as of just this month, we have to put your breast density on your mammogram report, and we have to send a letter to your home with your breast density.
00:28:27.520 --> 00:28:45.220 Deepa Sheth: So I want everyone that's had a mammogram recently to go home and see their breast density. Because if you do, you need to ask your radiologist to get additional testing like an additional ultrasound exam or an additional MRI exam, because you have that increased risk for breast cancer.
00:28:45.480 --> 00:28:52.849 Deepa Sheth: And just to kind of put some numbers to this, we know that 50% of the population has dense breast tissue. So this is a huge issue.
00:28:52.920 --> 00:29:07.929 Deepa Sheth: So go home. Read your mammogram, find out what your breast density is, and then I know we're getting to a commercial break. But we can quickly talk about male breast cancer at the end of this segment. But I just want you to know that men can get breast cancer, too. And so we'll talk about that.
00:29:08.770 --> 00:29:17.839 Frank R. Harrison: And let me now stop sharing this so we can go to our commercial. But I did want to find out something from you based on male breast cancer. Actually.
00:29:18.380 --> 00:29:20.754 Frank R. Harrison: Oh, good. I stopped sharing.
00:29:21.240 --> 00:29:24.730 Frank R. Harrison: I'm just kind of interested to know. And then we'll go to the commercial break.
00:29:24.760 --> 00:29:35.309 Frank R. Harrison: How does a man get tested for breast cancer? They don't have the tissue to go through a mammogram, so that I don't know that for the interest of the break. Let's do that, and then when we return
00:29:35.670 --> 00:29:40.690 Frank R. Harrison: oh, no, wait a minute, we we have a an somebody
00:29:40.710 --> 00:29:43.070 Frank R. Harrison: possibly coming in soon, so
00:29:43.390 --> 00:29:48.369 Frank R. Harrison: quickly answer in in 10 seconds. What's the kind of test that a man has to go through.
00:29:48.370 --> 00:30:00.659 Deepa Sheth: Men can get breast cancer. The most common way they present is with a mass, and so if they feel a math, they're going to come in. They can and do get a mammogram with me, so I can evaluate their breast tissue, and then they will get an ultrasound.
00:30:01.050 --> 00:30:14.509 Deepa Sheth: Generally, on average men are at risk for breast cancer, one in 700. So it's very rare. But it's not 0. Right? So if you have a persistent match, you need to come in to get a mammogram and an ultrasound, so we can check it out and get to the bottom of it.
00:30:15.030 --> 00:30:26.470 Frank R. Harrison: Amazing. So, ladies and gentlemen, I have nothing left to say, because I think that I'm just sitting here, as I said as a student, but I'm very grateful to the work and the presentation that both Dr. Kathleen Goss and Dr. Deepasheth
00:30:26.550 --> 00:30:39.509 Frank R. Harrison: has presented, and I hope all of you out there are learning a lot as I am. Again, if you have any questions, please email us through our Youtube channel Linkedin Channel or our twitch channels, we will be back in a few.
00:32:26.400 --> 00:32:36.649 Karen Ross - KarenRossNow.com: Well, and don't worry anybody both Dr. Gross and Dr. Sheff will be back in the 4th segment to just kind of.
00:32:41.640 --> 00:32:45.639 Frank R. Harrison: Hey, everybody, and welcome back. So now, Karen, take it away.
00:32:46.500 --> 00:33:08.669 Karen Ross - KarenRossNow.com: Okay. And I want to tell everybody to know that Dr. Sheff and Dr. Goss will be back in the last segment, and just kind of tie up things and give us the most important information. But the one thing that I want to talk about today is one of the programs of the American Cancer Society, which is their portrait of hope.
00:33:08.780 --> 00:33:13.019 Karen Ross - KarenRossNow.com: And this is a wonderful platform that honors
00:33:13.090 --> 00:33:18.850 Karen Ross - KarenRossNow.com: survivors of breast cancer. We have one of those people with us today, Lindsey Johnson.
00:33:18.910 --> 00:33:41.210 Karen Ross - KarenRossNow.com: and she's going to tell us more about her personal journey and more about the portrait of hope, and how people can maybe get involved in that part of the organization. Thank you, Lindsay, for joining us, and if Dr. Goss or Dr. Sheth have anything they want to cross in while we're talking. We welcome them to do that. Thanks Lindsay, for being here.
00:33:41.210 --> 00:33:49.440 Lindsey Johnson: Thanks for having me so again. I'm Lindsay Johnson, and I am one of the 8 portraits of hope.
00:33:49.852 --> 00:33:54.849 Lindsey Johnson: And if this is the 1st time in Chicago that we are doing this program there.
00:33:55.010 --> 00:34:19.929 Lindsey Johnson: The 8 of us are survivors and drivers of breast cancer, and our goal is to educate and inspire and hope hopefully help other people who are affected by breast cancer, and just promote awareness as much as we can. And and yeah, that's the gist of it. We actually have a walk coming up soon tomorrow from Saturday. And it's gonna be a really fantastic opportunity for those of you who are in Chicago. Come on.
00:34:20.139 --> 00:34:24.070 Lindsey Johnson: But yeah, so this has been a really beautiful opportunity for me to.
00:34:25.030 --> 00:34:29.479 Lindsey Johnson: you know, to take something that was very challenging and turn it into something
00:34:29.540 --> 00:34:31.790 Lindsey Johnson: hopefully positive in that
00:34:32.270 --> 00:34:35.980 Lindsey Johnson: if there are people out here that are listening to this that
00:34:36.040 --> 00:34:40.359 Lindsey Johnson: have been diagnosed and are younger, they can see that
00:34:40.659 --> 00:34:46.819 Lindsey Johnson: you have an end in sight. There is, there is hope, and there is life on the other side of this very challenging time.
00:34:47.580 --> 00:34:48.319 Lindsey Johnson: It's
00:34:48.860 --> 00:34:52.049 Lindsey Johnson: it was clearly the most challenging time of my life. I
00:34:52.239 --> 00:35:02.392 Lindsey Johnson: don't even really know how to put words to it. Yet it was still relatively recent. I was in treatment about a year and a half ago. So this is still quite fresh.
00:35:02.870 --> 00:35:03.429 Lindsey Johnson: but yeah.
00:35:03.430 --> 00:35:06.310 Karen Ross - KarenRossNow.com: How, how old were you when you were diagnosed.
00:35:06.610 --> 00:35:09.780 Lindsey Johnson: I was 38, 38, when I was diagnosed.
00:35:11.160 --> 00:35:14.239 Lindsey Johnson: and you know it's it's interesting. My, my story.
00:35:15.000 --> 00:35:20.429 Lindsey Johnson: I find, is like the best one to share with people who are younger, because it's very typical in that.
00:35:20.920 --> 00:35:34.399 Lindsey Johnson: My my mother, unfortunately, did have breast cancer. But it was after menopause. She is alive, she is great, she is kicking, she is wonderful. And therefore, when I was going to see my doctors forever because she had had
00:35:34.650 --> 00:35:41.900 Lindsey Johnson: her cancer after menopause, they thought, oh, there's no way that it's hereditary. There's nothing there. Don't worry about it.
00:35:42.740 --> 00:35:58.889 Lindsey Johnson: This is obviously a long time ago. And then, when I was in my mid thirties or so, I switched doctors and ended up going to see a new gynecologist who said, You know, you should really go get genetically tested. And I said, Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay. I'll totally do that
00:35:59.280 --> 00:36:00.400 Lindsey Johnson: another day.
00:36:01.320 --> 00:36:08.589 Lindsey Johnson: And it took her about a year and a half of pushing me to, to finally get me to go, and I
00:36:08.700 --> 00:36:13.700 Lindsey Johnson: don't even know how to thank her now, because, had I not, I don't even know
00:36:13.950 --> 00:36:16.269 Lindsey Johnson: where I would be, or if I would be here.
00:36:19.010 --> 00:36:29.850 Lindsey Johnson: What I did find was really interesting in that I do have a genetic marker, but it is not the Brca gene that everyone knows is a genetic marker called PAL B, 2,
00:36:30.030 --> 00:36:36.339 Lindsey Johnson: and it is linked to breast cancer, ovarian cancer and pancreatic cancer
00:36:36.370 --> 00:36:39.760 Lindsey Johnson: and it is something that
00:36:40.040 --> 00:36:50.029 Lindsey Johnson: I was so excited to see. Both of these wonderful women know thoroughly inside and out. And because I've had conversations, and there's still quite a few people in the medical profession who don't
00:36:50.190 --> 00:36:53.809 Lindsey Johnson: know it yet. So it's something that's very.
00:36:55.910 --> 00:36:59.932 Lindsey Johnson: very new, but not new. But we just know about it now, I guess.
00:37:00.750 --> 00:37:02.090 Lindsey Johnson: So yeah. So
00:37:02.460 --> 00:37:15.199 Lindsey Johnson: found out that I had this genetic marker and the High Risk clinic, which was fantastic, set me up with early mammograms. So I ended up getting my 1st mammogram at at 38,
00:37:15.230 --> 00:37:16.360 Lindsey Johnson: and
00:37:16.760 --> 00:37:18.480 Lindsey Johnson: after that period
00:37:18.710 --> 00:37:20.689 Lindsey Johnson: no, I'm sorry. At 37.
00:37:20.960 --> 00:37:35.649 Lindsey Johnson: Excuse me, and during that year I tried. They gave me all those different types of imaging. So there were breast Mris, you know, ultrasounds. Just regular physical manual exams from my doctors. I joke that there's
00:37:35.800 --> 00:37:55.129 Lindsey Johnson: no one was paying attention to these boobs nearly as much as my doctors were that year, and I didn't think anything of it. I just was trying to go with the protocol of what they told me to do. And you know, when they had my 1st mammogram. I had very breast, dense breast tissue as you were just discussing, and
00:37:55.250 --> 00:38:05.559 Lindsey Johnson: the doctors thought that there might have been something there and did some extra imaging, and and didn't find any evidence of anything after that. So I had my 1st
00:38:06.170 --> 00:38:14.143 Lindsey Johnson: dense breast tissue kind of scare in that it's hard to see. But also, now that we know it's it's a higher, higher chance of of
00:38:14.660 --> 00:38:18.414 Lindsey Johnson: of diagnosis, which is, I didn't have know until today.
00:38:19.280 --> 00:38:21.350 Lindsey Johnson: that said I
00:38:23.660 --> 00:38:26.835 Lindsey Johnson: lost my train of thought. Yeah, there we go. So
00:38:27.630 --> 00:38:29.661 Lindsey Johnson: So I had a
00:38:30.610 --> 00:38:46.400 Lindsey Johnson: a great time with all these things, and but nothing was starting to show up within. You know, the 3 quarters of a year I had just been to the doctor, and then what it was 6 weeks later. My my fiance, my now fiance, you know, said Honey, I don't. I think you need to pay attention to this.
00:38:46.560 --> 00:38:47.790 Lindsey Johnson: And
00:38:48.190 --> 00:38:53.530 Lindsey Johnson: had he not said something, having dense breast tissue, having
00:38:53.890 --> 00:39:08.280 Lindsey Johnson: lumps or bumps or things, and wasn't particularly abnormal, so this mass that I felt I could have very easily ignored. I'm too young. This is silly, you know. This is how my breasts always feel.
00:39:08.780 --> 00:39:20.659 Lindsey Johnson: That was clearly not the case. He was very adamant and and extremely thankful for that, and we found was that the the lump itself was not actually cancerous, but the cancer was behind it.
00:39:20.830 --> 00:39:26.420 Lindsey Johnson: And so I don't know where that lump came from, what it was, how it got there. But
00:39:26.730 --> 00:39:32.144 Lindsey Johnson: just say thank you to whoever and whatever made that happen, whether it was my body. Whether it was something else I don't know.
00:39:34.340 --> 00:39:39.849 Lindsey Johnson: But the cancer was in invasive ductal carcinoma stage 2.
00:39:40.443 --> 00:39:45.879 Lindsey Johnson: It was estrogen and progesterone positive, but not and
00:39:46.120 --> 00:39:49.180 Lindsey Johnson: I ended up having a double mastectomy.
00:39:49.500 --> 00:39:50.719 Lindsey Johnson: and then
00:39:50.730 --> 00:39:54.820 Lindsey Johnson: 4 rounds of chemotherapy with taxotare and cetaxen.
00:39:55.170 --> 00:39:59.719 Lindsey Johnson: and then reconstructive surgery thankfully, and
00:39:59.920 --> 00:40:00.930 Lindsey Johnson: I
00:40:01.260 --> 00:40:06.879 Lindsey Johnson: can't even describe the process at all. I'm still processing it myself.
00:40:08.320 --> 00:40:14.249 Lindsey Johnson: But the people that I met that were part of this community who were here to help
00:40:14.460 --> 00:40:15.480 Lindsey Johnson: were
00:40:15.800 --> 00:40:17.910 Lindsey Johnson: unbelievable. There's.
00:40:17.910 --> 00:40:18.690 Karen Ross - KarenRossNow.com: Wow!
00:40:19.070 --> 00:40:24.570 Lindsey Johnson: Phenomenal phenomenal gifts to people who are going through some things like anything like this. And
00:40:25.210 --> 00:40:32.200 Lindsey Johnson: I was very fortunate because I had a very loving community that rose up and surrounded me. And
00:40:32.230 --> 00:40:40.000 Lindsey Johnson: you know the things that my best friends sent me from. You know, care packages from far away, and you know my mother and my
00:40:40.470 --> 00:40:55.140 Lindsey Johnson: my fiance, and and you know everyone at underneath the sun was here and listening and talking. My coworkers were insanely helpful. I mean the things they thought of that I needed. I would have never
00:40:55.260 --> 00:40:56.870 Lindsey Johnson: in a million years considered
00:40:58.190 --> 00:41:03.450 Lindsey Johnson: but not everybody has that, you know, and one of the things that I find really
00:41:04.670 --> 00:41:14.199 Lindsey Johnson: impactful about what the American Cancer Society does is that there is, you know. Obviously, there's fundraising elements that were that go towards our research and and trying to, you know.
00:41:14.722 --> 00:41:23.589 Lindsey Johnson: make additional advances. But there's also just volunteer opportunities. So if you can't donate money, you can donate your time, and
00:41:24.690 --> 00:41:26.767 Lindsey Johnson: chemotherapy is not
00:41:27.670 --> 00:41:29.490 Lindsey Johnson: a very fun
00:41:29.520 --> 00:41:33.589 Lindsey Johnson: couple of hours, or full day, or depending on
00:41:34.050 --> 00:41:42.690 Lindsey Johnson: whatever. However, you're receiving the the medication, and you can volunteer to go and beep and sit with someone you can volunteer to drive someone
00:41:42.830 --> 00:41:45.294 Lindsey Johnson: home from their chemotherapy.
00:41:46.840 --> 00:42:01.560 Lindsey Johnson: I think that level of of volunteer. For those who can't find any way to to volunteer monetarily is just unbelievably impactful, and I highly highly encourage everyone to to look into other avenues that they can't do even things like that.
00:42:01.560 --> 00:42:08.639 Karen Ross - KarenRossNow.com: Great idea would they do that through the American Cancer Society, if they wanted to do that kind of volunteering.
00:42:09.610 --> 00:42:11.869 Lindsey Johnson: I believe so right, Kathy. Yes.
00:42:12.770 --> 00:42:13.590 Karen Ross - KarenRossNow.com: Okay. Okay.
00:42:13.590 --> 00:42:14.690 Kathy Goss, PhD (she/her): And we.
00:42:14.690 --> 00:42:17.570 Karen Ross - KarenRossNow.com: Just a little bit more about the portrait of Hope.
00:42:17.570 --> 00:42:21.510 Lindsey Johnson: Yes, so this again is the 1st year that we're doing this in in Chicago.
00:42:21.510 --> 00:42:21.840 Karen Ross - KarenRossNow.com: Right.
00:42:21.840 --> 00:42:24.700 Lindsey Johnson: So it's really exciting. And the 8 of us have
00:42:25.260 --> 00:42:40.000 Lindsey Johnson: are in all walks of life, and we are going out into the world and doing, trying to raise awareness and inspiration and give support. And you know, fundraising and advocacy for the for the American Cancer Society and
00:42:40.361 --> 00:42:51.750 Lindsey Johnson: each one of us is out doing things like this, you know. So we're we're speaking to companies. We're speaking on the radio, we're on the news. I've been luckily, the podcast girl. So this is my second podcast feeling, great.
00:42:51.750 --> 00:42:52.719 Karen Ross - KarenRossNow.com: Great Great.
00:42:52.720 --> 00:43:03.570 Lindsey Johnson: I'm happy to be here. And yeah, it's a. It's a wonderful program. And it's really it is that the portraits of hope is the right descriptor for it, because we really are here to try to show that
00:43:04.040 --> 00:43:05.940 Lindsey Johnson: there is hope in this.
00:43:05.940 --> 00:43:06.260 Karen Ross - KarenRossNow.com: Yeah.
00:43:06.260 --> 00:43:07.819 Lindsey Johnson: Very challenging part of.
00:43:08.200 --> 00:43:12.710 Karen Ross - KarenRossNow.com: That's great, Kathy, I think, I interrupted you. We have another minute.
00:43:12.750 --> 00:43:16.210 Karen Ross - KarenRossNow.com: How would someone go about doing that kind of volunteering.
00:43:16.670 --> 00:43:38.209 Kathy Goss, PhD (she/her): Yeah. So we have lots of opportunities. So I would encourage folks to go to cancer.org and and look at volunteer opportunities. But a couple of things that come to mind, based on what Lindsay talked about. Road to recovery is a volunteer program to provide transportation to cancer patients who need support getting to and from treatment.
00:43:38.210 --> 00:43:50.279 Kathy Goss, PhD (she/her): we have a program called Reach to Recovery. That is a peer to peer program for individuals with breast cancer so that they can identify with someone who has a similar lived experience.
00:43:50.687 --> 00:44:11.460 Kathy Goss, PhD (she/her): And so that's a really powerful way of of getting involved. And then in a lot of communities not in Chicago yet, but in a lot of in some communities across the country we have some Hope lodge facilities that provide lodging for cancer patients and a caregiver for free
00:44:11.480 --> 00:44:23.300 Kathy Goss, PhD (she/her): and we're trying to bring one to Chicago. There's 1 in New York, and there's 30 others across the country. But, this is a great opportunity to volunteer
00:44:23.750 --> 00:44:38.720 Kathy Goss, PhD (she/her): and things like that for those that are staying at the Lodge. So lots of volunteer opportunities, of course, and then the fundraising piece is always important, because what we say is no mission, no money, no mission. So thank you for bringing all of that up.
00:44:38.720 --> 00:44:41.980 Karen Ross - KarenRossNow.com: Thank you, Frank. I think we're up for another break right.
00:44:41.980 --> 00:44:51.930 Frank R. Harrison: Yes, we are, and I do have 2 questions, but I think they'll be perfect for wrapping up. So, ladies and gentlemen, please stay tuned as we are wrapping up this episode of Frank about health in the final segment
00:44:52.130 --> 00:44:56.849 Frank R. Harrison: right here on Talkradio, Dot, Nyc. And on all of our socials. We'll be back in a few.
00:46:59.860 --> 00:47:09.190 Frank R. Harrison: Hey, everybody and welcome back. And now we want to hear from Karen. Basically, I know you have some experience in working with cancer patients. So by all means.
00:47:09.760 --> 00:47:18.269 Karen Ross - KarenRossNow.com: Well, thank you, Frank, and people might ask a logical question. I'm a hypnotherapist. What does hypnotherapy have to do with cancer treatment.
00:47:18.480 --> 00:47:30.059 Karen Ross - KarenRossNow.com: and it is not a direct involvement, but it can really help an individual go through that journey, go through that process with more ease and a more peaceful
00:47:30.070 --> 00:47:43.250 Karen Ross - KarenRossNow.com: attitude about it, and just make it an easier journey. Just very, very quickly. Recently worked with a young woman about your age, Lindsay. I think she was 36 when she was diagnosed.
00:47:43.320 --> 00:47:51.079 Karen Ross - KarenRossNow.com: She also had a double mastectomy, did chemotherapy radiation, and has come through thankfully.
00:47:51.090 --> 00:48:21.040 Karen Ross - KarenRossNow.com: beautifully, and she's got a young child, and so it's such a disappointment when it strikes someone like that. But what I did with her was to do some hypnotherapy, and then give her a recording that she could listen to on a regular basis. And what she said about that was Karen helped me get through some challenging aspects of my cancer treatment. This year she made recordings for me that were beautiful and soothing in multiple layers.
00:48:21.050 --> 00:48:31.399 Karen Ross - KarenRossNow.com: I felt so heard from everything she said, and experienced synchronicity when she also said just the right things beyond anything I shared.
00:48:31.590 --> 00:48:46.170 Karen Ross - KarenRossNow.com: I can't speak for other hypnotherapists. That's how I, though, approach the situation when I have a client in that situation, and I listen to them and give them the ease and
00:48:46.540 --> 00:48:50.239 Karen Ross - KarenRossNow.com: effortlessness that they need to get through the process.
00:48:50.280 --> 00:49:00.969 Karen Ross - KarenRossNow.com: So if you, if anybody in our audience is going through this knows anyone. It's worth a conversation. Just reach out to me through my website, karenrossnow.com.
00:49:01.090 --> 00:49:21.530 Karen Ross - KarenRossNow.com: You can send a direct email to me at info@karenrossnow.com. It's worth a conversation to see if I can help, and that's what I'm here for. So, Frank, I'm going to pass it back to you for everybody to share their closing thoughts. But what a what a great show! What great skills! Thank you so much for being here.
00:49:21.920 --> 00:49:28.729 Frank R. Harrison: Yes, absolutely well. Lindsey. 1st and foremost, I do want to ask you about that, Gene that you'd said
00:49:29.210 --> 00:49:35.019 Frank R. Harrison: in the last segment. That was also a I don't know if you call it a primer or a trigger
00:49:35.060 --> 00:49:39.609 Frank R. Harrison: for pancreatic cancer as well. Now that you've already
00:49:39.700 --> 00:49:41.690 Frank R. Harrison: had that gene
00:49:41.820 --> 00:49:56.460 Frank R. Harrison: materialize in terms of breast cancer. Does that mean that you're still at risk for those other cancers? Or has there been a treatment modality put into place for you that can hopefully minimize the risk of those ever coming to light.
00:49:57.550 --> 00:49:59.860 Lindsey Johnson: So at this point, there.
00:50:00.040 --> 00:50:13.910 Lindsey Johnson: it's just early screening, you know, and some preventative things, you know, for, like the ovarian cancer piece, I will likely have my ovaries removed at some point, you know. But pancreatic cancer, I'm just gonna have to
00:50:14.160 --> 00:50:18.410 Lindsey Johnson: start screening as early as I possibly can. But
00:50:18.500 --> 00:50:26.529 Lindsey Johnson: that is something that they have said that I am still in a Younger age group. So it's not their front of concern for them, but I know it'll be
00:50:26.540 --> 00:50:32.219 Lindsey Johnson: probably sooner rather than later. Yeah, it's a it's a very interesting thing. I
00:50:32.970 --> 00:50:38.030 Lindsey Johnson: it just leads me to the one thing that I feel like I really need to say before we before we close is that.
00:50:38.160 --> 00:50:40.270 Lindsey Johnson: please just go get screened.
00:50:40.490 --> 00:50:41.710 Lindsey Johnson: Just do it.
00:50:41.970 --> 00:50:47.479 Lindsey Johnson: I mean, it's it. It sounds terrifying. It sounds. But also think about how
00:50:48.530 --> 00:50:52.639 Lindsey Johnson: satisfying and relieving it'll be if there's nothing to be found.
00:50:53.030 --> 00:51:05.550 Frank R. Harrison: Correct. It's when you know that you're okay or that. Okay, we're just going to continue year over year that you're on a trajectory of some sort. That knowledge is power. You have less fear, and you just know you're following the right
00:51:05.990 --> 00:51:16.219 Frank R. Harrison: prevention and the right modality of keeping yourself as healthy as possible. Right? And you know congratulations. I mean, you're now in remission, correct.
00:51:16.220 --> 00:51:17.799 Lindsey Johnson: I am. Yes.
00:51:17.800 --> 00:51:40.710 Frank R. Harrison: I'm happy for you, Dr. Sheth. Now. We had this wonderful display on dense breasts, and obviously we heard from Lindsay that that was one of her situations. One question that came to my mind is that what is the basis of the breast density? Is it genetic, or is it environmental, or is there something else that maybe individuals, even men, could possibly
00:51:40.940 --> 00:51:44.929 Frank R. Harrison: minimize the density issue from being a big risk factor.
00:51:44.930 --> 00:51:54.929 Deepa Sheth: Yeah, 1st of all, Lindsay, thank you for sharing that really heartfelt, and you know, just compelling story. I think it's so brave of you to go out there and share your story because it really does help
00:51:55.110 --> 00:52:13.099 Deepa Sheth: us. Kind of convey that message. Come in, come in for your screening mammogram. We want to see you. We promise we'll try to make it as painless as we possibly can. You know a lot of people during Covid sort of fell off that wagon of getting screened. And we want to just remind everyone. Hey, it's time it's time to come back. We miss you.
00:52:13.390 --> 00:52:27.559 Deepa Sheth: And so that's my like one Psa. Here, come back in to get your mammogram. But yeah, breast density is not something that you can modify. It's just based on your genes. So, Lindsay, your mom may probably have had dense breasts. Your grandma may have had dense breasts.
00:52:27.560 --> 00:52:45.180 Deepa Sheth: There are a few external things that can change your breast. Density like getting radiation therapy can decrease your breast density or starting hormonal therapy after menopause can increase your breast density, but those are external like you can't control that, you know, but your breast density is just part of your genetics.
00:52:45.200 --> 00:52:56.369 Deepa Sheth: And then, secondly, I just wanted to quick, you know, touch base on this personalized risk, you know, like many women, are probably saying, Well, you said to start at 40, but Lindsay unfortunately got diagnosed at 37, you know.
00:52:56.460 --> 00:53:11.750 Deepa Sheth: And so we're actually saying that when you're in your thirties, like ideally 30, we want you to have a conversation with your primary provider and talk to them about. Hey? I have a strong family history of cancer, not necessarily just breast cancer. Tell them about all your history of cancer.
00:53:11.840 --> 00:53:35.939 Deepa Sheth: and what they'll do is, they'll refer you to a genetic counselor, and they'll do a full pedigree of every family member in your tree, and what kinds of ailments they may have, and if they find that you're eligible they'll do some genetic testing on you. And we now know that there's over 90 genetic alleles that lead to increased breast cancer. 90. Right? So it's not just the Brca one and 2 gene that we've heard about like in Hollywood these days.
00:53:35.940 --> 00:53:52.270 Deepa Sheth: It's PAL B 2. It's check, it's ATM, there's there's over 90 of them, and knowledge is power. So now that Lindsay knows about this, she can get the right surveillance tests and the right early imaging before she, you know God forbid! Gets anything so that we can catch it as early as possible.
00:53:52.880 --> 00:54:00.870 Frank R. Harrison: Okay, no, I mean. And and Dr. Goss, I was very inspired by how you opened the show
00:54:01.000 --> 00:54:13.590 Frank R. Harrison: in terms of all the advocacy for different groups and communities. But more importantly, I guess just the kind of research that I see you doing. Or I see the American Cancer Society doing
00:54:13.610 --> 00:54:22.510 Frank R. Harrison: it. I guess I do have questions like, How is AI working into it in terms of future cures or solutions, or or even the research itself?
00:54:22.660 --> 00:54:37.579 Kathy Goss, PhD (she/her): It's such an exciting time in cancer research. And I know Deepa feels the same is that you know, we are really at a transformative place because of technology because of data
00:54:37.580 --> 00:54:57.860 Kathy Goss, PhD (she/her): because of AI and being able to really mine data in new and exciting ways and learn as much as possible. So there's a lot to be excited about for what's ahead. And that's important. Because breast cancer is not just one disease. It's multiple diseases. Lindsay talked about
00:54:57.860 --> 00:55:18.370 Kathy Goss, PhD (she/her): the profile of her breast cancer, and there are lots of different ones, and they behave differently, and they respond to treatment differently. And so the research is so key not only for us to understand what causes breast cancer, how do we prevent it? How do we test those new technologies to detect it
00:55:18.400 --> 00:55:40.860 Kathy Goss, PhD (she/her): faster and easier and more reliably. But also, how do we treat it better because they do behave differently and and frankly, our goal is not to just have people live longer, but to have them live better. And so it's about improving quality of life for survivors as well. And so my Psa is going to be really about, because you guys
00:55:40.940 --> 00:56:03.319 Kathy Goss, PhD (she/her): beautifully talked about screening and knowing your risk, I guess what I would just say if you're going through a cancer journey. Make sure that you know that you have people and resources to support you and Lindsay. Thank you so much for bringing this up, because not everybody has that. But you can. The American Cancer Society is just one organization.
00:56:03.340 --> 00:56:22.120 Kathy Goss, PhD (she/her): But we have a 24, 7 call center that you can. You can get somebody on the phone and talk to them about your you know what you're having trouble with from a from a healthcare perspective to insurance coverage to hey? How do I find out?
00:56:22.567 --> 00:56:40.020 Kathy Goss, PhD (she/her): You know the closest pharmacy. And so that call center is so important. Things like we have a program called ever you that has wigs and hats and scarves at a really reasonable price. So again, helping women live
00:56:40.020 --> 00:56:58.650 Kathy Goss, PhD (she/her): a better quality of life through this journey, and then my last thing is just get involved. And so we mentioned at the outset to support breast cancer awareness month at the American cancer study, there are making strides against breast cancer events.
00:56:59.003 --> 00:57:11.386 Kathy Goss, PhD (she/her): All over the country and so get involved. Attend fundraise. It's a part of a really amazing community. And so you won't regret being a part of it, and thank you in advance.
00:57:12.320 --> 00:57:18.380 Frank R. Harrison: Well, we're gonna have to wrap up the show. We have less than a minute left. But 1st of all, thank you, Karen, for introducing
00:57:18.420 --> 00:57:31.829 Frank R. Harrison: of the Frank about health platform to James Hearn, shout out to that man who put all of you together for today's show. Thank you, Logan, behind the scenes for all the editing and technology work that we were able to do to make this show as informative as possible.
00:57:31.960 --> 00:57:34.026 Frank R. Harrison: I want to thank also.
00:57:34.470 --> 00:57:59.410 Frank R. Harrison: you know, just in general, the technology that's out there. In fact, my last week's show, I talked about specific cultural programs, health related medical inspiring shows and 1 million little things was one that talked about male breast cancer, which I know Karen was also a fan of, and the way the series ended was, he died from it. I guess there's a lot more research that needs to be conducted when it comes to male breast cancer. Now
00:57:59.410 --> 00:58:19.029 Frank R. Harrison: that all being said, we're about to sign off. But I do want to announce that tomorrow's episode. Friday slate of shows is only Tommy D's always Friday in the morning. I'm sorry Tommy D. And philanthropy and focus. And then next Tuesday, we have the hard skills and nourish the soul.
00:58:19.030 --> 00:58:30.250 Frank R. Harrison: And then next Thursday, after the conscious, consultant hour, mind, body, health, and politics will be another episode of Frank about health.
00:58:30.250 --> 00:58:50.060 Frank R. Harrison: So, ladies and gentlemen, thank you for all being here and listening to the show. This show will be ready for playback at any time, and if you have questions, then you can send them to me at Frankrharrison, one@gmail.com. And also I guess we'll see you all next week. Thanks again for celebrating cancer awareness month.
00:58:50.060 --> 00:58:50.926 Deepa Sheth: Thanks. Frank.
00:58:51.360 --> 00:58:52.170 Frank R. Harrison: Alrighty!
00:58:52.300 --> 00:58:53.350 Frank R. Harrison: Bye-bye.
00:58:53.350 --> 00:58:54.070 Kathy Goss, PhD (she/her): Bye.
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