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Facebook Live Video from 2024/08/06- 8 Indicators of Whether Coaching Could Help You Make a Greater Leadership Impact, with John Reed

 
Facebook Live Video from 2024/08/06- 8 Indicators of Whether Coaching Could Help You Make a Greater Leadership Impact, with John Reed

 

2024/08/06- 8 Indicators of Whether Coaching Could Help You Make a Greater Leadership Impact, with John Reed

[NEW EPISODE] 8 Indicators of Whether Coaching Could Help You Make a Greater Leadership Impact, with John Reed

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EPISODE SUMMARY:

WHAT YOU WILL LEARN:

Is this the right time for me to invest in executive coaching? Do I need an executive coach? Why or why not? And how do I find a good one that is also right for me and who can help me make a greater impact as a leader? That is what we'll discuss in this episode with guest, Dr. John Reed, author of Pinpointing Excellence.

Our guest will share 8 practical indicators that will help determine whether they are at the ideal point in their leadership development to engage an executive coach and how to find the right one for their needs in order to make a greater leadership impact. 

ABOUT OUR GUEST:

Dr. John Reed is a top executive coach and leadership advisor certified as a master coach by 3 industry leaders: the ICF, Goldsmith Stakeholder Centered Coaching, and the Worldwide Association of Business Coaches. In over 6000 documented hours, he helps leaders in businesses ranging from the Fortune 100 to private equity-backed startups. He integrates training in business, strategy consulting, and leadership psychology, as well as coaching. A lead member of the MG100 Coaches community, John holds an MBA from Dartmouth and a PhD from the University of Georgia. He and his wife Perry Ann, a healthcare executive, have 4 children and are based in Miami and Austin. 

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LINKS MENTIONED IN EPISODE:

Guest LinkedIn Profile: linkedin.com/in/johnreedphdmbaexecutivecoach 

Guest Websites:

www.pinpointingexcellence.com/do-i-need-a-coach 

www.pinpointingexcellence.com 

www.quinnreedassociates.com

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Transcript

00:00:50.680 --> 00:01:01.600 Mira Brancu: Welcome welcome to the hard skills show where we discuss how to develop the nuanced hard skills meaning the most challenging soft skills needed to make a real impact through your leadership.

00:01:02.820 --> 00:01:05.719 Mira Brancu: You want to go from good to great as a leader. Right?

00:01:05.980 --> 00:01:17.369 Mira Brancu: You've heard how executives at the highest levels of an organization have executive coaches. It used to be a very hush hush thing no longer now that coaching is no longer a secret.

00:01:17.390 --> 00:01:19.590 Mira Brancu: and in fact, it's kind of trendy

00:01:19.650 --> 00:01:21.810 Mira Brancu: and not just for executives.

00:01:22.190 --> 00:01:33.910 Mira Brancu: How can you realistically assess whether coaching is right for you? Number one? And if it is how to find the right one for you so that you can reach the highest levels of your leadership. Impact

00:01:34.460 --> 00:01:35.869 Mira Brancu: athletes. Do it.

00:01:36.220 --> 00:01:37.910 Mira Brancu: Business people do it.

00:01:38.000 --> 00:01:55.159 Mira Brancu: Internal organization leaders do it, but you do have to find the right fit, and you have to find it at the right time. So we will find out from our guest today. Dr. John Reid, who wrote the book on this, literally wrote the book on this, and we will learn a lot from him today.

00:01:55.380 --> 00:02:03.790 Mira Brancu: Welcome to also our new season. Season 5, where we will be focusing on making a greater impact. As a leader.

00:02:04.420 --> 00:02:16.319 Mira Brancu: In last week's show, we celebrated not only the end of season 4. But also our one year anniversary of the show where we achieved a top 10% global rating on listen. Notes.

00:02:16.980 --> 00:02:24.260 Mira Brancu: Yes. So that is an awesome way to start this season, giving its focus

00:02:24.820 --> 00:02:26.670 Mira Brancu: on making a greater impact.

00:02:27.520 --> 00:02:46.819 Mira Brancu: I'm your host, Dr. Mirabranku. I'm a leadership consulting and coaching psychologist, founder of Tower Scope Leadership Academy, an associate professor, a psychology today columnist, author of the Millennials Guide to workplace politics and had my own leadership career before transitioning to helping teams and high achieving women navigate their leadership complexities.

00:02:47.480 --> 00:02:59.510 Mira Brancu: Now, one more thing before I introduce you to our very special guest today, I would like to announce that we have closed applications for our fall. 2024 Tower Scope Leadership Academy cohort

00:02:59.520 --> 00:03:12.740 Mira Brancu: in my newsletters. I've been sharing about gaining a more clear leadership identity, the impact of community building and the importance of training practice, creating options and expanding opportunities as a leader.

00:03:12.990 --> 00:03:20.810 Mira Brancu: And to that end I'm trying out this new short-term virtual program called 10 Week Fuel.

00:03:20.880 --> 00:03:31.710 Mira Brancu: Focused unstoppable, empowered leadership, a transformation accelerator. My goal is to target some very specific outcomes in under 2 h per week for about 2 and a half months.

00:03:31.740 --> 00:03:33.800 Mira Brancu: with a very small cohort.

00:03:34.580 --> 00:03:39.359 Mira Brancu: And we're focusing on improving how to prioritize your time more strategically and intentionally

00:03:39.430 --> 00:03:44.290 Mira Brancu: gaining or regaining clarity and certainty about your next career or leadership steps

00:03:44.450 --> 00:03:50.939 Mira Brancu: and feeling more effective in your current leadership role, even in the midst of a highly ineffective organizational climate.

00:03:51.250 --> 00:03:52.010 Mira Brancu: Now.

00:03:52.512 --> 00:03:57.360 Mira Brancu: you already know, we have the research to back up the effectiveness of all our programs

00:03:57.410 --> 00:04:03.019 Mira Brancu: using the same framework that consistently yields stronger results than most short-term programs.

00:04:03.260 --> 00:04:06.510 Mira Brancu: You can't find the information online right now.

00:04:06.520 --> 00:04:09.229 Mira Brancu: because I'm just offering it to a small number of people with

00:04:09.250 --> 00:04:14.520 Mira Brancu: a few awesome. No risk perks to help me try it out so you can get on my newsletter.

00:04:14.920 --> 00:04:26.499 Mira Brancu: Just go to Www. Dot Gotow Towerscope com and find at the bottom subscribe, and you will quickly catch the information coming in at the next time that I send the newsletter.

00:04:26.980 --> 00:04:27.990 Mira Brancu: Okay.

00:04:28.120 --> 00:04:37.459 Mira Brancu: without further ado in the context of all those ways that you can develop as a leader. I'm excited to introduce our special guest today. Dr. John Reid.

00:04:37.650 --> 00:04:42.649 Mira Brancu: John is a top executive coach and leadership advisor.

00:04:42.720 --> 00:04:47.860 Mira Brancu: He's certified as a master coach by not one, not 2, but 3 industry leaders.

00:04:48.170 --> 00:04:49.990 Mira Brancu: the internationally

00:04:50.150 --> 00:04:51.669 Mira Brancu: coaching Federation.

00:04:52.110 --> 00:04:58.369 Mira Brancu: Goldsmith, stakeholder stakeholder center coaching and the Worldwide association of business coaches.

00:04:58.780 --> 00:05:12.480 Mira Brancu: He helps leaders in businesses ranging from Fortune 5, 100 all the way to private equity, backed startups. He integrates training in business strategy, consulting and leadership psychology as well as coaching.

00:05:12.820 --> 00:05:16.350 Mira Brancu: He is a lead member of the Mg. 100 coaches community.

00:05:16.710 --> 00:05:21.000 Mira Brancu: and he holds an Mba. From Dartmouth and a Phd. From the University of Georgia.

00:05:21.020 --> 00:05:24.150 Mira Brancu: He and his wife Perian, a healthcare executive.

00:05:24.240 --> 00:05:28.730 Mira Brancu: have 4 children, and are currently based in Miami and Austin.

00:05:29.180 --> 00:05:31.899 Mira Brancu: Welcome and great to have you on the show. John.

00:05:32.490 --> 00:05:35.470 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: Thank you, Mira. And can I just say.

00:05:35.530 --> 00:05:40.260 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: very, very impressed and proud of you? The difference you're making

00:05:40.510 --> 00:05:42.205 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: with this wonderful

00:05:43.730 --> 00:05:45.819 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: and and it's it's

00:05:46.040 --> 00:05:51.429 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: it is really making a difference in the lives of a lot of leaders.

00:05:51.510 --> 00:05:54.140 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: I'm delighted to be on here with you.

00:05:54.510 --> 00:06:06.619 Mira Brancu: Thank you. Thank you. Now, John might be saying this cause he's technically also a wonderful mentor of mine has been since we met up when 2018 ish.

00:06:06.960 --> 00:06:15.460 Mira Brancu: I was already in the Duke area, and he moved down to that area around Durham, North Carolina.

00:06:15.580 --> 00:06:23.520 Mira Brancu: and we quickly connected and developed our relationship from then. But he's also not someone who just

00:06:23.790 --> 00:06:25.360 Mira Brancu: throws around

00:06:25.380 --> 00:06:28.910 Mira Brancu: platitudes. So I'm gonna take his compliments as

00:06:28.960 --> 00:06:33.320 Mira Brancu: meaning something really important, even if he has also been a mentor.

00:06:34.700 --> 00:06:36.140 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: You know it's

00:06:36.930 --> 00:06:43.479 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: it. Really I I'm a nice guy, but I don't hand out compliments like that every day and

00:06:43.810 --> 00:06:48.140 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: mirror. You are very deserving, and I'm just very proud of you.

00:06:48.499 --> 00:06:52.570 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: and I'm I'm happy to take credit for all of your success.

00:06:52.570 --> 00:06:53.640 Mira Brancu: Okay. Okay.

00:06:53.640 --> 00:06:54.540 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: Yeah.

00:06:57.650 --> 00:06:59.100 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: Alright.

00:06:59.100 --> 00:07:06.720 Mira Brancu: Let's talk about you less about me. I'm getting all red. Okay? So you are a navy veteran.

00:07:07.280 --> 00:07:11.339 Mira Brancu: and you became interested in organizational psychology.

00:07:11.750 --> 00:07:22.959 Mira Brancu: And now you have sort of deep dive in a very specific area of organizational psychology, right? Which is helping coaches

00:07:23.140 --> 00:07:25.600 Mira Brancu: meet a higher level of standard

00:07:25.820 --> 00:07:31.340 Mira Brancu: and helping leaders understand how to find that excellent coaching. So I'm super curious.

00:07:31.450 --> 00:07:32.439 Mira Brancu: How did you

00:07:32.810 --> 00:07:37.980 Mira Brancu: get to this journey from navy, veteran, organizational psychology? And now here.

00:07:38.530 --> 00:07:41.400 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: Yeah, well, I'll I'll you know.

00:07:41.500 --> 00:07:47.777 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: I'll try and be as brief as possible. That'll be surprising for you, I'm sure. But

00:07:48.290 --> 00:07:50.247 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: yeah, I I

00:07:51.783 --> 00:07:54.600 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: ended up entering the Navy

00:07:54.660 --> 00:07:57.270 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: before finishing College.

00:07:57.460 --> 00:07:59.510 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: and actually

00:07:59.630 --> 00:08:03.750 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: believe it or not, even though I knew absolutely nothing about the military.

00:08:04.000 --> 00:08:08.839 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: They must have decided, for some reason, to make me the platoon leader

00:08:09.160 --> 00:08:09.670 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: in, but.

00:08:09.670 --> 00:08:10.500 Mira Brancu: Oh!

00:08:11.030 --> 00:08:22.869 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: Which was a frightening experience. But I, to put it mildly, I learned a lot about leadership and motivating people and accountability, and those kinds of things.

00:08:22.960 --> 00:08:29.460 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: So I'd say that was that was an early leadership experience. That kind of tweaked my

00:08:29.590 --> 00:08:31.080 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: curiosity

00:08:31.100 --> 00:08:40.659 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: and went back to went back to Dartmouth and then went to business school there, and went into consulting.

00:08:40.840 --> 00:08:43.900 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: and did that for 11 years.

00:08:44.330 --> 00:08:48.900 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: and realized that I was getting more and more interested. I loved

00:08:49.100 --> 00:08:52.080 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: strategy, consulting and consulting in general.

00:08:52.370 --> 00:08:57.959 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: but I was getting more and more interested in opportunities to help the people who work for me

00:08:58.510 --> 00:08:59.589 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: do better.

00:08:59.930 --> 00:09:00.340 Mira Brancu: Hmm.

00:09:00.696 --> 00:09:13.899 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: And actually I I went and went and got some career counseling from a psychologist because I thought there was something wrong with me and I you know I was making more and more money. But I

00:09:14.360 --> 00:09:19.659 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: I something was missing. And he he said to me, you are.

00:09:19.710 --> 00:09:22.669 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: You may be reaching a stage of adult development.

00:09:23.220 --> 00:09:28.959 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: And I said, adult Development, I'm already an adult. What the hell are you talking about? And he said

00:09:29.240 --> 00:09:33.639 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: you might be reaching a stage of adult development where you are becoming

00:09:33.860 --> 00:09:46.559 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: primarily interested in helping other people. That's that might be one of your major motivators, and I was not a very good client. To begin with, I was highly resistant to that idea.

00:09:46.880 --> 00:09:50.169 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: but you know ultimately that gentleman

00:09:50.260 --> 00:09:53.700 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: was absolutely right, and he helped me

00:09:54.140 --> 00:09:55.140 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: pivot.

00:09:55.410 --> 00:09:59.559 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: It took a lot of courage, and I had a lot of support. But Pivot.

00:09:59.590 --> 00:10:01.979 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: leave my 6 figure job

00:10:02.130 --> 00:10:08.609 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: and go back to graduate school at the University of Georgia. I was living in Atlanta at the time

00:10:08.970 --> 00:10:12.579 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: to get a degree in organizational psychology.

00:10:13.560 --> 00:10:17.459 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: and then I came out of that degree.

00:10:17.840 --> 00:10:22.830 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: and got recruited into what was then called Anderson, consulting

00:10:23.080 --> 00:10:25.330 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: more strategy, consulting.

00:10:26.040 --> 00:10:29.360 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: But I was also, as a brand new psychologist.

00:10:29.380 --> 00:10:32.439 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: dotted line into change management.

00:10:33.970 --> 00:10:36.399 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: and it was in that second

00:10:36.430 --> 00:10:41.030 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: role that I began to bump into executives

00:10:42.210 --> 00:10:44.059 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: really just one at the top

00:10:44.180 --> 00:10:49.710 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: they wanted, you know, they they had all the strategy, consulting that they could possibly use.

00:10:49.920 --> 00:11:02.190 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: but they sometimes wanted to talk about stresses that they were under things that they were encountering, that they wanted the sounding board, for you know you know about about this

00:11:03.223 --> 00:11:04.490 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: and so.

00:11:04.580 --> 00:11:06.270 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: gee! 20,

00:11:06.960 --> 00:11:10.680 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: 22 years ago, if you saw me, I was doing

00:11:10.850 --> 00:11:16.140 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: practically all strategy consulting, and a tiny bit of something

00:11:16.160 --> 00:11:18.370 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: that was later called coaching.

00:11:18.850 --> 00:11:21.120 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: But even you know, back then

00:11:21.410 --> 00:11:25.659 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: it it had lots of different descriptors and names.

00:11:26.080 --> 00:11:28.610 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: We'll get get to that more in a second.

00:11:28.830 --> 00:11:31.479 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: And now that's completely flipped.

00:11:31.660 --> 00:11:36.340 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: I do a little bit of strategy consulting and and almost entirely coaching.

00:11:36.720 --> 00:11:38.789 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: So I was

00:11:39.100 --> 00:11:44.240 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: as I began to move into coaching, because, as you know, it's an unregulated

00:11:44.330 --> 00:11:45.530 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: industry.

00:11:45.990 --> 00:11:49.239 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: which means that there are no requirements.

00:11:49.850 --> 00:11:53.880 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: educational or experiential or otherwise.

00:11:54.720 --> 00:11:57.480 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: or calling yourself an executive coach.

00:11:59.150 --> 00:12:07.320 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: and in the early going that was really wonderful for me, because, as you can imagine, the bar was set so low

00:12:08.220 --> 00:12:14.769 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: that you know, with an Mba. From Dartmouth and being licensed organizational psychologist.

00:12:15.240 --> 00:12:17.430 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: and I was already starting to get

00:12:17.660 --> 00:12:21.930 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: coaching training which a lot of coaches were not doing

00:12:22.740 --> 00:12:24.920 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: that worked out very well for me.

00:12:25.870 --> 00:12:33.459 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: What also started to happen is that I would hear from clients of other coaches

00:12:33.750 --> 00:12:35.190 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: around the country

00:12:35.520 --> 00:12:36.600 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: about.

00:12:36.960 --> 00:12:39.450 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: Sometimes they had great experiences.

00:12:39.480 --> 00:12:42.639 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: sometimes they had awful experiences.

00:12:43.470 --> 00:12:48.020 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: spent a lot of money, and and got nothing in return or very little

00:12:50.050 --> 00:12:52.980 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: and it was at that point that I began to.

00:12:53.100 --> 00:12:56.520 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: It was just me. I was thinking, Well, what what could I do

00:12:56.890 --> 00:12:59.989 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: to try and help this situation

00:13:00.150 --> 00:13:01.040 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: to

00:13:01.480 --> 00:13:09.180 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: make consumers of coaching more astute in the way they evaluate their alternatives.

00:13:10.770 --> 00:13:13.439 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: and also to protect them

00:13:13.600 --> 00:13:19.980 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: in a buyer. Beware environment. And then, and also, perhaps in some cases, help coaches

00:13:20.420 --> 00:13:24.350 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: who want to get into the field and get well positioned.

00:13:24.740 --> 00:13:29.199 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: That sort of organized their training and development to do that?

00:13:31.370 --> 00:13:34.649 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: So in 2011,

00:13:34.670 --> 00:13:37.480 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: yeah, 2011, I wrote a book

00:13:38.303 --> 00:13:42.959 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: which was an an initial book about how to vet someone

00:13:43.130 --> 00:13:45.430 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: who says that they're an executive coach.

00:13:47.061 --> 00:13:54.649 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: And it was quite popular, and I was. I was either very popular with coaches, or very unpopular

00:13:54.990 --> 00:13:58.030 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: with very, with coaches, and you can imagine why

00:13:59.169 --> 00:14:08.159 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: and that that all went along pretty well. And then, a couple of years ago, I came out with a second book, an expanded book.

00:14:08.822 --> 00:14:14.010 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: That had some of the same topics being dealt with and updated.

00:14:14.530 --> 00:14:20.840 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: but also a little more history about the field, how it had evolved.

00:14:20.860 --> 00:14:32.139 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: Why, it was important to have depth in the 4 areas that you and I know, and I very much appreciated your endorsement and support of the book

00:14:32.340 --> 00:14:33.070 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: mirror.

00:14:33.550 --> 00:14:35.000 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: And those are

00:14:35.250 --> 00:14:36.390 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: business

00:14:37.750 --> 00:14:39.420 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: psychology.

00:14:40.460 --> 00:14:41.720 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: ethics.

00:14:42.450 --> 00:14:44.600 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: and of course, coaching.

00:14:45.400 --> 00:14:47.670 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: So you would think, you know.

00:14:47.790 --> 00:14:51.559 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: I not too many people argue that those aren't important

00:14:51.970 --> 00:14:54.769 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: in executive coaching. And yet

00:14:55.080 --> 00:14:59.420 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: almost nobody applied those 4 criteria.

00:14:59.620 --> 00:15:00.790 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: Very well.

00:15:01.250 --> 00:15:05.780 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: So this second book provides a lot more detail.

00:15:06.160 --> 00:15:17.369 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: and I think it's I think it's helping people become much more discriminating buyers. I'd say I'd say the the point of it is to do maybe 3 things.

00:15:17.730 --> 00:15:21.740 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: One is to introduce them or update them

00:15:21.800 --> 00:15:22.870 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: readers

00:15:22.890 --> 00:15:27.799 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: to what's actually been going on in the coaching industry

00:15:28.250 --> 00:15:29.439 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: for the last

00:15:30.450 --> 00:15:34.570 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: for several decades, but particularly for the last 20 years.

00:15:35.790 --> 00:15:44.599 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: Then it's to to bring home the point that there are these 4 areas of expertise that are so critical. If you want a top notch

00:15:44.910 --> 00:15:46.110 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: practitioner.

00:15:47.120 --> 00:15:54.369 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: then there's the notion of Well, how do you? How do you evaluate the person in front of you in these

00:15:54.630 --> 00:16:01.040 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: 4 areas, and then determine the best fit for you to maximize

00:16:01.050 --> 00:16:02.569 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: your roi

00:16:02.980 --> 00:16:05.200 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: right? And then finally.

00:16:05.260 --> 00:16:06.890 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: more recently.

00:16:07.130 --> 00:16:13.980 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: I I and it was my wife who who was very good at at pointing this out, but

00:16:14.260 --> 00:16:20.509 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: sometimes as a new coach, when I didn't know any better, I was so anxious

00:16:20.710 --> 00:16:23.649 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: to have someone think well of me

00:16:24.490 --> 00:16:26.879 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: and and want to work with me

00:16:27.460 --> 00:16:31.219 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: that all they had to do is is, you know.

00:16:31.300 --> 00:16:36.540 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: at their eyes, and I'd be happy to sort of dig in with them, and off we go

00:16:38.250 --> 00:16:39.860 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: over time

00:16:40.040 --> 00:16:45.220 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: I occasionally would bump into somebody, and after working with them I realized

00:16:45.670 --> 00:16:49.710 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: they didn't really know what coaching was.

00:16:50.400 --> 00:16:52.940 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: They didn't know what it involved.

00:16:53.450 --> 00:16:55.780 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: In some cases they actually.

00:16:55.940 --> 00:17:00.940 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: they were, I think, interested in working with me, because that was sort of a

00:17:00.980 --> 00:17:03.659 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: trendy thing to do, except

00:17:03.940 --> 00:17:06.820 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: they didn't actually know what they wanted

00:17:07.260 --> 00:17:11.649 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: at the end of coaching. What the outcome was that we were shooting for.

00:17:13.160 --> 00:17:21.730 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: So I put together and I think we'll we'll talk about it a little bit more here. But I I put together just a basic

00:17:21.839 --> 00:17:24.670 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: set of criteria.

00:17:24.810 --> 00:17:25.930 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: Then, I think.

00:17:26.160 --> 00:17:30.890 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: are really common sense. More of a reminder than anything else that

00:17:31.440 --> 00:17:33.380 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: coaches can use

00:17:33.410 --> 00:17:36.390 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: to help their prospective client

00:17:36.510 --> 00:17:40.299 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: determine. If now is the right time

00:17:40.720 --> 00:17:43.119 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: to invest in coaching

00:17:43.180 --> 00:17:46.169 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: and put in the work that coaching requires.

00:17:46.720 --> 00:17:49.090 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: and in some cases it is.

00:17:49.090 --> 00:17:57.150 Mira Brancu: Gonna cut you off because we're reaching an ad break. But there's a lot here that I need to add backtrack and ask you about.

00:17:57.150 --> 00:17:57.580 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: Sure.

00:17:57.580 --> 00:18:22.880 Mira Brancu: So we are nearing an ad break. You're listening to the hard skills with me, Dr. Mirabranku and our guest today, Dr. John Reid, we air Tuesdays at 5 pm. Eastern. If you'd like to join our online audience and ask questions in real time, right now, we can answer them. Just go to Linkedin or Youtube at talk radio mic, and we'll be able to answer them. We will be right back with our guests in just a moment.

00:20:34.000 --> 00:20:39.179 Mira Brancu: Welcome back to the hard skills with me. Dr. Mirabranku and our guest today. Dr. John Reid.

00:20:39.240 --> 00:20:42.320 Mira Brancu: now John, wrote the book

00:20:42.560 --> 00:20:46.770 Mira Brancu: on how to pinpoint excellence. That's actually the name of the book

00:20:46.910 --> 00:20:52.921 Mira Brancu: pinpointing excellence, how to pinpoint excellence when you're looking for an executive coach and

00:20:54.340 --> 00:20:57.358 Mira Brancu: before we get into your framework, John.

00:20:58.400 --> 00:21:00.429 Mira Brancu: I want to backtrack a little bit.

00:21:00.720 --> 00:21:05.720 Mira Brancu: How do you like? Since the season is focused on making a greater impact

00:21:05.760 --> 00:21:07.050 Mira Brancu: right? As a leader.

00:21:08.692 --> 00:21:10.939 Mira Brancu: How do you see

00:21:11.030 --> 00:21:13.249 Mira Brancu: the role of executive coaching

00:21:13.530 --> 00:21:17.850 Mira Brancu: doing that? What is your definition of like? What executive coaching

00:21:17.920 --> 00:21:25.019 Mira Brancu: does is should be when leaders are leaning into using that to try to make a greater impact.

00:21:25.840 --> 00:21:29.061 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: No, it's a it's a great question mirror.

00:21:30.577 --> 00:21:36.129 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: and I I think just at at the start of start of the discussion. I'd say.

00:21:36.960 --> 00:21:41.110 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: if you really want to maximize your

00:21:41.610 --> 00:21:45.530 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: amount and speed of leadership growth.

00:21:46.100 --> 00:21:52.809 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: there are lots of. There are lots of ways and resources for that, as you well know, there, you could have a mentor.

00:21:53.110 --> 00:21:56.910 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: You can get additional formal education.

00:21:57.250 --> 00:21:59.730 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: and you can have a you can have a coach.

00:22:00.260 --> 00:22:01.130 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: but

00:22:01.510 --> 00:22:05.170 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: obviously it's the quality and fit

00:22:05.310 --> 00:22:06.620 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: of the coach

00:22:07.360 --> 00:22:09.829 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: that really is. Is a key variable

00:22:09.950 --> 00:22:10.960 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: in this

00:22:11.790 --> 00:22:14.430 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: and the more senior you are.

00:22:14.820 --> 00:22:17.970 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: the greater the need for highly

00:22:18.140 --> 00:22:19.790 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: skilled coaching.

00:22:20.520 --> 00:22:25.100 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: So again, that sort of goes back to why, it's important

00:22:25.220 --> 00:22:30.319 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: if you want to use coaching as a lever for leadership growth

00:22:31.620 --> 00:22:36.810 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: to be very astute about how you size up your options.

00:22:37.050 --> 00:22:40.489 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: and then again be very astute about

00:22:40.800 --> 00:22:44.049 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: reconfirming, that this is the right time for you

00:22:44.250 --> 00:22:48.219 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: to be investing and and jumping in with

00:22:48.410 --> 00:22:49.920 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: executive coaching.

00:22:50.300 --> 00:22:51.110 Mira Brancu: Yeah. And

00:22:52.280 --> 00:22:57.624 Mira Brancu: you know, some of the complexity lies in like you started mentioning.

00:22:58.450 --> 00:23:00.780 Mira Brancu: coaching had many descriptions starting out

00:23:01.000 --> 00:23:06.949 Mira Brancu: right? And so like it. It started out like the wild Wild West, you know, and over time

00:23:07.020 --> 00:23:10.719 Mira Brancu: it's like psych, like the field of psychology. In some ways.

00:23:11.098 --> 00:23:15.400 Mira Brancu: or social work, or you know, maybe other fields. It's broken up

00:23:15.440 --> 00:23:17.329 Mira Brancu: into lots of different types.

00:23:17.360 --> 00:23:22.490 Mira Brancu: So there's career coaching. There's life coaching. There's healthcare coaching. There's

00:23:22.920 --> 00:23:28.060 Mira Brancu: sports coaching. There's executive coaching is one of many.

00:23:28.090 --> 00:23:30.340 Mira Brancu: and if you end up

00:23:31.020 --> 00:23:34.310 Mira Brancu: looking for a career coach, for example.

00:23:34.970 --> 00:23:42.790 Mira Brancu: but you end up with a life coach, or you. You want to look for an executive coach, but you end up with a career coach. It's not going to be the right fit

00:23:43.270 --> 00:23:49.539 Mira Brancu: right? So can you share with us like you? You started talking about this being an unregulated industry?

00:23:50.101 --> 00:24:01.400 Mira Brancu: There are some organizations like the International coaching Federation that would disagree, that they're trying to make it regulated. But tell us more about like

00:24:01.540 --> 00:24:14.540 Mira Brancu: the difference between a regulated field like psychology and a field like coaching in terms of entry training. Helping consumers understand what they're getting into. All of those things.

00:24:14.540 --> 00:24:20.429 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: Sure. Sure. Well, and and psychology is a great example mirror. And

00:24:20.879 --> 00:24:26.459 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: you know, you and I both work with physicians, for example, that's another.

00:24:26.800 --> 00:24:29.229 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: Probably one of my favorites, because

00:24:29.770 --> 00:24:32.060 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: when we go see a doctor

00:24:32.410 --> 00:24:33.070 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: right.

00:24:33.410 --> 00:24:39.910 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: that person, regardless of any other variables, that person graduated from high school.

00:24:39.990 --> 00:24:47.210 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: graduated from college, was admitted to medical school, graduated from medical school, got admitted to a residency.

00:24:47.310 --> 00:24:52.039 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: An internship graduated from that, passed the licensure boards

00:24:52.180 --> 00:24:55.040 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: right, and they're probably 2 or 3 other steps there.

00:24:55.190 --> 00:24:58.469 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: just to be able to work

00:24:58.730 --> 00:24:59.910 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: in the field.

00:24:59.910 --> 00:25:01.739 Mira Brancu: True. Right yup!

00:25:02.350 --> 00:25:10.000 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: And and you know the the path for psychologists maybe, isn't quite as involved. But it's you. You and I know it's pretty involved, which I.

00:25:10.000 --> 00:25:10.430 Mira Brancu: Involved.

00:25:10.430 --> 00:25:14.740 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: Good about. I feel good about, and that helps consumers.

00:25:15.672 --> 00:25:18.280 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: And and so again.

00:25:18.290 --> 00:25:19.350 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: yes.

00:25:19.450 --> 00:25:28.359 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: I'm I'm a proud member of several coaching organizations that are doing their level best to set standards

00:25:29.060 --> 00:25:32.350 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: and encourage people to

00:25:32.640 --> 00:25:33.490 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: meet them.

00:25:35.313 --> 00:25:45.829 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: The Icf is is one, and Goldsmith stakeholder centered. Coaching is another that come to mind. However.

00:25:46.980 --> 00:25:49.450 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: unless consumers

00:25:49.650 --> 00:25:51.520 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: who are the gatekeepers.

00:25:51.690 --> 00:25:53.970 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: unless consumers know

00:25:54.130 --> 00:25:55.900 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: to insist on that

00:25:56.380 --> 00:25:57.930 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: and understand

00:25:58.110 --> 00:26:01.349 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: within the, for example, icf

00:26:01.440 --> 00:26:04.230 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: hierarchy of qualifications.

00:26:04.440 --> 00:26:06.889 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: What the differences are

00:26:07.170 --> 00:26:11.849 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: they have not no idea who they're buying or what they're buying. So

00:26:12.796 --> 00:26:14.089 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: the Icf

00:26:14.450 --> 00:26:16.290 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: top master

00:26:16.470 --> 00:26:23.780 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: qualification is something that 4% of Icf coaches. Yeah.

00:26:24.050 --> 00:26:24.650 Mira Brancu: Hmm.

00:26:24.800 --> 00:26:32.149 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: So it's it requires at least 2,500 h of experience and loads and loads of

00:26:32.190 --> 00:26:33.850 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: training and

00:26:34.090 --> 00:26:37.090 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: passing both a

00:26:37.120 --> 00:26:39.239 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: a traditional

00:26:39.340 --> 00:26:47.519 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: test, and also an in sort of in vivo observed and recorded test. To make sure you have some of the skills

00:26:49.570 --> 00:26:54.589 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: and that's I. I think that's a that's a very good protective step

00:26:54.820 --> 00:26:56.040 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: where people

00:26:56.240 --> 00:26:59.449 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: who are investing in, say, a master coach

00:27:00.070 --> 00:27:01.340 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: from the Icf.

00:27:01.930 --> 00:27:13.890 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: Does that mean that that person will be a perfect fit for them. Not necessarily, but in terms of skill. They at least have an assurance of some solid footing.

00:27:14.090 --> 00:27:14.770 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: Right?

00:27:15.601 --> 00:27:22.460 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: And if you're a brand new Icf coach, I think you you have to have, if I remember correctly.

00:27:22.590 --> 00:27:24.730 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: maybe 500 h

00:27:24.930 --> 00:27:26.450 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: of experience.

00:27:26.560 --> 00:27:28.670 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: which is better than none.

00:27:28.910 --> 00:27:33.630 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: But if all, if all a consumer hears is

00:27:33.970 --> 00:27:36.810 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: from a very enterprising

00:27:36.990 --> 00:27:38.540 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: salesy

00:27:39.380 --> 00:27:43.180 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: coach oh, I'm an Icf. I'm I'm Icf certified.

00:27:43.850 --> 00:27:46.100 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: and if they say it authoritatively.

00:27:46.290 --> 00:27:52.879 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: that may lead the person to believe that they're they're master or professional level certified

00:27:53.370 --> 00:27:55.860 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: when in reality they might not be.

00:27:56.110 --> 00:27:56.770 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: Yeah. So.

00:27:56.770 --> 00:27:58.861 Mira Brancu: And and, by the way,

00:28:00.270 --> 00:28:01.380 Mira Brancu: we

00:28:04.110 --> 00:28:05.610 Mira Brancu: spend more money

00:28:05.910 --> 00:28:08.269 Mira Brancu: on lower qualified coaches

00:28:08.620 --> 00:28:11.269 Mira Brancu: than we spend on way higher qualified

00:28:11.720 --> 00:28:14.699 Mira Brancu: physicians, doctors for ourselves.

00:28:14.880 --> 00:28:16.710 Mira Brancu: and you know it.

00:28:16.860 --> 00:28:18.300 Mira Brancu: It's time

00:28:18.730 --> 00:28:20.690 Mira Brancu: to really evaluate. Like.

00:28:21.030 --> 00:28:23.010 Mira Brancu: if I'm going to spend this kind of money

00:28:23.140 --> 00:28:26.209 Mira Brancu: right? I I need to feel sure

00:28:26.390 --> 00:28:35.860 Mira Brancu: that the person's ready to help me get the results, and with the right qualifications that I need specifically right. So

00:28:36.430 --> 00:28:38.380 Mira Brancu: with with that in mind.

00:28:38.850 --> 00:28:41.310 Mira Brancu: we're reaching an ad break and

00:28:42.810 --> 00:28:44.070 Mira Brancu: I believe.

00:28:44.490 --> 00:28:49.959 Mira Brancu: Logan, are we reaching out right? I didn't. I didn't put my usual sign here.

00:28:50.020 --> 00:28:53.410 Mira Brancu: so I'll I'll wait for him to tell you. I don't think that we are. I I

00:28:53.930 --> 00:28:57.059 Mira Brancu: I'm gonna wait to see the questions that I have for you.

00:28:57.465 --> 00:29:02.214 Mira Brancu: Yes, incoming ad break, he confirms. That's what I thought. Okay, so everybody

00:29:03.073 --> 00:29:08.739 Mira Brancu: hang tight when we come back I want to dig in a little bit more with John around how he

00:29:08.870 --> 00:29:12.416 Mira Brancu: has developed this kind of 8 point framework.

00:29:12.930 --> 00:29:23.330 Mira Brancu: a guide for how leaders can determine when it's time to see executive coaching and you know the kinds of things that he's he's written, and also

00:29:23.905 --> 00:29:33.039 Mira Brancu: there are 2 parts of your 4 part piece qualifications. The business like ethics and coaching that I really also wanted to dig into.

00:29:33.050 --> 00:29:43.290 Mira Brancu: So let's start with that when we come back, you're listening to the hard skills with me, Dr. Mirabranku and our guest today, Dr. John Reid, and we will be right back in just a moment.

00:31:44.050 --> 00:31:51.489 Mira Brancu: Welcome back to the heart skills with me, Dr. Mirabranku and our guest today, Dr. John Reid, author of pinpointing excellence.

00:31:51.640 --> 00:31:57.749 Mira Brancu: So I really want to get into these 8 points

00:31:57.850 --> 00:31:58.970 Mira Brancu: in your guide.

00:31:59.799 --> 00:32:02.579 Mira Brancu: But very quickly, before we get right into it.

00:32:02.960 --> 00:32:08.470 Mira Brancu: you have business, psychology, ethics, and coaching as the 4 parts to a great coach.

00:32:08.860 --> 00:32:10.250 Mira Brancu: Some might ask.

00:32:12.040 --> 00:32:18.410 Mira Brancu: let let's say me, I'm going to ask this. Okay, I work with healthcare. Why do I need to know business

00:32:18.760 --> 00:32:20.970 Mira Brancu: right? Other

00:32:21.390 --> 00:32:27.239 Mira Brancu: people might ask the opposite. I work in business. Why do I need to know psychology?

00:32:28.080 --> 00:32:32.720 Mira Brancu: So tell me about those 2 things, and why you you sort of included both.

00:32:33.810 --> 00:32:37.760 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: Well, and the the book goes into.

00:32:38.330 --> 00:32:39.130 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: you know.

00:32:39.260 --> 00:32:42.480 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: loads of detail on this. But basically

00:32:42.950 --> 00:32:47.210 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: business, if you're talking about someone who works in an organization

00:32:47.690 --> 00:32:50.690 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: that takes in revenue, has expenses.

00:32:50.920 --> 00:32:55.889 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: looks for profit, you know, makes investments. Blah blah blah blah blah, as you know.

00:32:56.960 --> 00:33:07.100 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: you need to understand that environment, whether it's a healthcare system or a financial system manufacture whatever whatever that is.

00:33:07.320 --> 00:33:08.430 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: So

00:33:09.790 --> 00:33:15.399 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: that's the business means sort of the environment that you're in.

00:33:16.240 --> 00:33:18.099 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: and that can be, you know.

00:33:18.200 --> 00:33:21.750 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: varied but understanding business

00:33:21.890 --> 00:33:23.590 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: fundamentals.

00:33:23.620 --> 00:33:28.369 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: Perhaps having an Mba. For example, that level of training

00:33:28.630 --> 00:33:30.949 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: is, I think, very important

00:33:31.550 --> 00:33:36.209 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: in in almost any business coaching environment that you're in

00:33:37.741 --> 00:33:44.070 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: and I've heard business people then say, I have some Mba classmates that say, Well.

00:33:44.200 --> 00:33:47.050 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: why the hell do I need psychology? Well.

00:33:47.860 --> 00:33:53.869 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: in executive coaching? If it's done well, you're dealing with behavior, change

00:33:54.270 --> 00:34:02.080 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: and changes in attitude and changes in the way you cognitively frame things and all kinds of things

00:34:02.220 --> 00:34:04.499 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: that you need to understand

00:34:04.920 --> 00:34:07.609 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: to help a person navigate through that

00:34:08.020 --> 00:34:11.410 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: right? That's why psychology is important.

00:34:13.850 --> 00:34:16.190 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: so I hope I've am I answering your question?

00:34:16.190 --> 00:34:21.980 Mira Brancu: Yeah, absolutely. I mean, I think that that I I'm playing devil devil's advocate here. But I totally agree.

00:34:21.989 --> 00:34:23.769 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: I like this. I like. This is great.

00:34:23.770 --> 00:34:31.960 Mira Brancu: I totally agree with you. I mean, it's not like so yes, I'm a psychologist. That doesn't mean that I will be providing therapy

00:34:32.030 --> 00:34:37.640 Mira Brancu: or being your psychologist when I'm your coach. I know the difference. This is important to

00:34:37.810 --> 00:34:40.430 Mira Brancu: because of the fact that I know the difference.

00:34:40.630 --> 00:34:44.479 Mira Brancu: I know how to be a coach with

00:34:45.570 --> 00:34:48.120 Mira Brancu: a psychology lens, and, you know.

00:34:48.280 --> 00:34:50.629 Mira Brancu: bring behavioral science to it.

00:34:51.290 --> 00:34:52.429 Mira Brancu: And

00:34:53.018 --> 00:34:56.440 Mira Brancu: because I also have gotten business training.

00:34:56.560 --> 00:35:04.160 Mira Brancu: I understand the importance of the business side and the pressures that executives are experiencing

00:35:04.400 --> 00:35:07.269 Mira Brancu: right, and I would not be appreciating that

00:35:07.620 --> 00:35:11.200 Mira Brancu: if I didn't have both perspectives I also would not

00:35:12.120 --> 00:35:13.719 Mira Brancu: know where

00:35:13.970 --> 00:35:15.100 Mira Brancu: coaching

00:35:15.330 --> 00:35:17.000 Mira Brancu: stops or starts.

00:35:17.460 --> 00:35:31.009 Mira Brancu: and my business knowledge, or my psychology, not knowledge, or or whatever will start if I didn't have all of that training right? There are people there are coaches out there that delve right into things that they have no training in.

00:35:31.470 --> 00:35:34.279 Mira Brancu: and should not be delving into.

00:35:34.370 --> 00:35:58.269 Mira Brancu: because they don't have that background to know like where the line stops. Right? So it's both. It's both. It's knowing the boundaries and knowing and having the sort of foundational knowledge. So with all of that in mind, let's get into your 8 point guide. By the way. Towards the end of this we will share a couple of sites and resources. That John is is being is generously sharing with us.

00:35:58.630 --> 00:36:05.399 Mira Brancu: But set us up here. What is this 8 point guide that you developed? Why did you develop it? How can people use it?

00:36:05.830 --> 00:36:13.570 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: No as I as I mentioned a little bit ago, I I would occasionally encounter

00:36:13.740 --> 00:36:14.780 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: people

00:36:15.030 --> 00:36:17.120 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: who in retrospect.

00:36:18.170 --> 00:36:26.199 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: when I was when I was very new I would start down the coaching path, and then and then discover that there were some of these things that need to have been

00:36:26.230 --> 00:36:29.820 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: sorted out before we jumped in the boat together.

00:36:29.990 --> 00:36:53.949 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: So I I came out with and actually at the back of the pinpointing Excellence book. There's a there's a link for for getting this. But I'm I think we can provide this also as a as a freebie here mirror. But but basically let me, would you like me to just kind of go down through the list? Okay, okay, so

00:36:54.800 --> 00:36:57.249 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: 1st thing, do I, the

00:36:57.650 --> 00:37:02.779 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: client, prospective client? Do I understand what executive coaching is all about.

00:37:03.640 --> 00:37:05.530 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: Some people believe

00:37:05.560 --> 00:37:12.400 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: or did or not think that they will walk in, and the coach will wave a magic wand

00:37:12.520 --> 00:37:13.550 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: and poof!

00:37:13.750 --> 00:37:19.129 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: Everything will be great. I'm I'm being facetious, but there's a there's a sort of a

00:37:19.220 --> 00:37:26.020 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: a a theme of that that I I have encountered. So coaching is about working together

00:37:26.030 --> 00:37:27.379 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: with the coach

00:37:28.089 --> 00:37:32.989 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: to build your effectiveness, development so on and so forth.

00:37:33.110 --> 00:37:37.680 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: But it involves behavior, change which requires work

00:37:37.820 --> 00:37:40.440 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: and collaboration and

00:37:40.690 --> 00:37:52.099 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: energy between and in sessions, and sometimes it can be challenging and difficult to do that. Which is why you need a very competent person walking

00:37:52.280 --> 00:37:56.519 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: with you. The outcome of that can be fantastic

00:37:56.620 --> 00:37:57.760 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: and great.

00:37:58.010 --> 00:38:04.880 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: But the basic idea is, does this person who is thinking about jumping into coaching.

00:38:04.900 --> 00:38:06.440 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: really understand

00:38:06.820 --> 00:38:08.879 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: what's involved in it

00:38:08.940 --> 00:38:10.669 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: at a realistic level?

00:38:10.930 --> 00:38:11.810 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: Okay?

00:38:12.270 --> 00:38:13.370 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: Secondly.

00:38:13.730 --> 00:38:17.599 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: because it involves work and time and energy.

00:38:18.470 --> 00:38:22.740 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: Does this person, looking at their busy executive schedule.

00:38:23.160 --> 00:38:27.200 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: Does this person really have the time available

00:38:27.920 --> 00:38:29.160 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: to invest

00:38:29.220 --> 00:38:34.999 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: so that they can give? Give it a good go, give it a hundred percent effort.

00:38:35.210 --> 00:38:35.980 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: Right?

00:38:36.300 --> 00:38:39.119 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: I've had when I was again

00:38:39.140 --> 00:38:40.350 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: a

00:38:40.370 --> 00:38:45.479 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: a relatively new and naive coach. It was surprising to me when

00:38:45.670 --> 00:38:52.119 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: clients some somehow either wouldn't show up for a meeting, or would cancel at the last minute.

00:38:52.490 --> 00:38:57.119 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: Right? And in a couple of those cases I it finally dawned on me that they

00:38:57.250 --> 00:39:00.639 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: they weren't interested. They were interested in saying that they were in.

00:39:00.995 --> 00:39:01.350 Mira Brancu: She.

00:39:01.350 --> 00:39:05.710 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: Me they weren't interested in doing some of the work.

00:39:05.710 --> 00:39:06.360 Mira Brancu: Hmm.

00:39:06.360 --> 00:39:06.950 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: Right.

00:39:07.590 --> 00:39:08.600 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: So

00:39:09.030 --> 00:39:13.990 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: you need some time and energy to succeed in this. So ask yourself

00:39:14.400 --> 00:39:16.800 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: in my schedule. Right now

00:39:17.360 --> 00:39:20.300 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: do I have the bandwidth for this.

00:39:20.320 --> 00:39:21.610 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: and if you don't.

00:39:21.940 --> 00:39:28.319 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: don't kid yourself, just wait, and and you can work with that coach at a later time, I'm sure.

00:39:28.350 --> 00:39:33.179 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: But make sure that you you've got the. You know you've got the space in your schedule.

00:39:34.630 --> 00:39:35.179 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: Sure, awesome.

00:39:35.180 --> 00:39:37.159 Mira Brancu: The the coach won't appreciate it.

00:39:37.190 --> 00:39:43.160 Mira Brancu: Who wants to show up constantly begging people to show up who are not ready.

00:39:43.490 --> 00:39:49.818 Mira Brancu: you know, or interested, or putting in the time. Nobody feels good about that.

00:39:50.240 --> 00:39:55.474 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: Perfectly perfectly, said, yes, yes, I was disillusioned more than once.

00:39:55.950 --> 00:39:57.220 Mira Brancu: Right, number 3, good.

00:39:57.220 --> 00:40:05.430 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: Am I at a point professionally where achieving more and differentiating myself in the market is actually valuable to me. Right?

00:40:06.000 --> 00:40:13.819 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: Let's say I think coaching is a great idea. And actually, I'm just perfectly happy with my job, and everything's going along just fine.

00:40:13.890 --> 00:40:15.190 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: And so

00:40:15.640 --> 00:40:24.929 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: I like the idea of being in coaching, but I'm not exactly sure what I need to get better at, and what the payoff is for me

00:40:25.490 --> 00:40:26.690 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: in doing so.

00:40:26.820 --> 00:40:31.589 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: I know that seems like a sort of an obvious blocking and tackling kind of a thing to

00:40:31.860 --> 00:40:36.520 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: to consider. But you'd be surprised, Mira, at the number of people who

00:40:36.840 --> 00:40:40.189 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: really haven't thought that through, so you can help do that.

00:40:41.050 --> 00:40:41.460 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: Sort of.

00:40:41.460 --> 00:40:47.379 Mira Brancu: I do think that's important, though, like because of the fact that coaching is so trendy.

00:40:47.610 --> 00:40:50.372 Mira Brancu: you know, and saying, Well, I have a coach.

00:40:51.030 --> 00:40:57.130 Mira Brancu: that doesn't mean you know how to use a coach effectively for yourself.

00:40:58.130 --> 00:41:03.219 Mira Brancu: Right? That's that's what that's what this number 3 is about. Okay, sorry. Go ahead. Number 4.

00:41:03.220 --> 00:41:10.519 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: Or and sort of related that the next point is, Do I have, or do I want to define clear and ideally

00:41:10.640 --> 00:41:12.660 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: measurable outcomes.

00:41:12.880 --> 00:41:13.510 Mira Brancu: Hmm.

00:41:13.510 --> 00:41:18.669 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: Coaching. So during the coaching engagement of 6 to 12 or whatever months.

00:41:18.810 --> 00:41:26.159 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: sometimes I I have clients that have multi-year engagements, but the point is as they're making an investment.

00:41:26.550 --> 00:41:29.130 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: Most of them want to be able to track.

00:41:29.240 --> 00:41:31.430 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: and I certainly want to be able to track

00:41:31.570 --> 00:41:33.920 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: how they are progressing

00:41:33.980 --> 00:41:36.630 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: towards whatever the outcome is.

00:41:36.920 --> 00:41:48.589 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: So it's not a black box, and it's not a thing where we have a. We have a nice little piece of cake and and some ice cream at the end of coaching and celebrate that coaching has ended

00:41:48.730 --> 00:41:50.160 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: without knowing

00:41:50.220 --> 00:41:51.679 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: that we've hit the goal.

00:41:52.220 --> 00:41:56.504 Mira Brancu: Yeah, I I do think that a lot of people don't know that

00:41:56.820 --> 00:41:59.180 Mira Brancu: coaching involves goal setting.

00:41:59.710 --> 00:42:01.930 Mira Brancu: you know, it's not just showing up and

00:42:03.119 --> 00:42:09.490 Mira Brancu: talking through my thoughts. It there's there's goal setting. And

00:42:10.680 --> 00:42:13.340 Mira Brancu: that is an important piece of it. Yeah, okay, go ahead. Number 5.

00:42:13.340 --> 00:42:18.579 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: That's a very good point. You know. Inevitably, in good coaching.

00:42:18.720 --> 00:42:23.410 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: you're going to be confronted with and learning about strengths

00:42:23.760 --> 00:42:26.900 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: and also gaps or development areas.

00:42:28.540 --> 00:42:34.980 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: so many times you, you can learn how to better capitalize on your strengths.

00:42:35.390 --> 00:42:38.560 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: which is which is great. And most people like to do that.

00:42:38.830 --> 00:42:42.620 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: Some people don't like to be confronted with

00:42:42.710 --> 00:42:45.039 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: things that they're not as good at.

00:42:45.450 --> 00:42:50.110 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: So it's important to know that that's part of the process.

00:42:50.380 --> 00:43:00.599 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: and the 1st step to getting better at the things that you're not particularly good at is understanding what those things are, and then getting some help

00:43:01.340 --> 00:43:02.760 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: in advancing.

00:43:03.220 --> 00:43:04.270 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: So again.

00:43:04.270 --> 00:43:07.539 Mira Brancu: And and all. You know, to that end

00:43:11.440 --> 00:43:12.640 Mira Brancu: coaching

00:43:13.540 --> 00:43:19.449 Mira Brancu: engaging in coaching means you are engaging in a humbling process where you're being

00:43:19.845 --> 00:43:26.430 Mira Brancu: open and honest with the things that you need to work on, and the coach a good coach

00:43:26.710 --> 00:43:29.550 Mira Brancu: will be supportive, but will also be challenging

00:43:29.890 --> 00:43:37.373 Mira Brancu: you to step up to the next level that you actually want to get to. Right? That's the entire point. So

00:43:37.920 --> 00:43:38.760 Mira Brancu: yes.

00:43:39.130 --> 00:43:43.860 Mira Brancu: we have 1 min to the next ad break. Let's see if we could squeeze in the next.

00:43:43.860 --> 00:43:47.140 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: Okay, if if you if you have a boss.

00:43:47.330 --> 00:43:54.499 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: you're working for somebody, does that person encourage or support the idea of your being in coaching.

00:43:54.840 --> 00:43:55.200 Mira Brancu: Hmm.

00:43:55.200 --> 00:43:56.899 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: Does that person

00:43:56.960 --> 00:44:07.680 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: want you to take the time to give it a hundred percent? There'll be some points along the way where you may be struggling. Will that person be encouraging

00:44:07.970 --> 00:44:10.290 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: to to help you stick with it?

00:44:10.913 --> 00:44:14.860 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: So, having a supportive boss or senior.

00:44:15.200 --> 00:44:17.360 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: I think, is is critical.

00:44:19.120 --> 00:44:23.289 Mira Brancu: Great. Okay, we are going into an ad break. We're gonna

00:44:23.600 --> 00:44:30.559 Mira Brancu: do number 7 and 8. When we come back from the break. Thank you for listening. We'll be right back with the hard skills in just a moment.

00:46:34.020 --> 00:46:41.710 Mira Brancu: Welcome back to the heart skills with me. Dr. Mirabranku and our guest today, Dr. John Reid, author of pinpointing excellence

00:46:41.790 --> 00:46:45.610 Mira Brancu: and an executive coach and leadership advisor.

00:46:46.040 --> 00:46:49.479 Mira Brancu: So he has shared with us before the break

00:46:49.620 --> 00:46:51.640 Mira Brancu: 6 of his 8

00:46:51.820 --> 00:46:52.680 Mira Brancu: tips

00:46:52.870 --> 00:46:56.890 Mira Brancu: for evaluating whether you might be ready for coaching or not?

00:46:57.000 --> 00:46:59.210 Mira Brancu: What are those last 2? John?

00:46:59.400 --> 00:47:02.369 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: The last 2, Mira are again

00:47:02.620 --> 00:47:08.719 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: it it same way. You're thinking about your boss as a as a sort of a element of all this.

00:47:08.860 --> 00:47:12.519 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: think about your organization and its culture

00:47:13.000 --> 00:47:19.939 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: as well. So are you working. If you're in an organization, are you in one that has a culture that is

00:47:20.010 --> 00:47:22.040 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: encouraging, of growth.

00:47:22.050 --> 00:47:25.660 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: encouraging, of stretching. Occasionally

00:47:25.700 --> 00:47:27.419 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: you'll make mistakes

00:47:27.590 --> 00:47:33.319 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: or fall short if you are stretching and trying some things new. Are you in an environment

00:47:33.400 --> 00:47:41.760 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: where that's something that that people value and will be encouraging about? Or are you in an environment where

00:47:41.960 --> 00:47:48.790 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: they might give lip service to that? But the 1st time you seem to struggle they'll they'll chop your head off.

00:47:49.610 --> 00:47:54.680 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: So that's try and be realistic about that. And then, lastly.

00:47:54.790 --> 00:47:59.239 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: remember, executive coaching is designed for professional

00:47:59.300 --> 00:48:00.350 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: development

00:48:00.780 --> 00:48:01.780 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: and

00:48:02.260 --> 00:48:10.240 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: mental health, counseling, seeing a clinical psychologist or a social worker or a psychiatrist

00:48:10.500 --> 00:48:12.240 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: can often be

00:48:12.320 --> 00:48:16.019 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: very helpful. I encounter sometimes

00:48:16.260 --> 00:48:18.379 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: in parallel with

00:48:18.840 --> 00:48:25.959 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: issues that I'm working on as an executive coach. I've had enough clinical training to be able to spot depression, anxiety.

00:48:26.020 --> 00:48:27.720 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: and related things.

00:48:27.750 --> 00:48:29.240 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: and at that point.

00:48:29.960 --> 00:48:33.919 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: I think the coach has an ethical obligation

00:48:34.590 --> 00:48:40.530 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: to point that out to the client, and do what the coach can to help the client

00:48:40.640 --> 00:48:44.030 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: get a different set of supports

00:48:44.400 --> 00:48:48.989 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: for that particular clinical or emotional

00:48:49.070 --> 00:48:51.349 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: issue or issues.

00:48:51.450 --> 00:49:01.260 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: Sometimes those things can be dealt with in parallel. Sometimes it's important to stop coaching and allow for the clinical intervention, and then maybe come back to coaching.

00:49:01.880 --> 00:49:04.829 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: So those are again sort of 8

00:49:04.930 --> 00:49:09.119 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: fundamentals to think about to just sort of gauge.

00:49:09.220 --> 00:49:14.099 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: How how close you are to being in the right spot to get going with coaching.

00:49:14.280 --> 00:49:16.869 Mira Brancu: These are really great, I mean

00:49:17.234 --> 00:49:19.060 Mira Brancu: I can think of so many

00:49:20.023 --> 00:49:21.570 Mira Brancu: situations. Where.

00:49:21.640 --> 00:49:24.240 Mira Brancu: had we had all 8 of these.

00:49:24.410 --> 00:49:32.199 Mira Brancu: it would have been set up for success, and when we do have all 8 of these, it is set up for beautiful success, and when we don't, it's

00:49:32.670 --> 00:49:36.920 Mira Brancu: challenging for various reasons, depending on which one is missing.

00:49:36.940 --> 00:49:55.663 Mira Brancu: Right? Whether you don't have organizational support or your boss's support, or the culture is not there, or you haven't clearly defined your goals, or each of these create some barrier challenge to meeting the outcome. So I love these. I also want to sort of pick up on this last piece here.

00:49:56.360 --> 00:49:59.180 Mira Brancu: that you mentioned. It's for professional development.

00:49:59.340 --> 00:50:01.880 Mira Brancu: right? And

00:50:02.150 --> 00:50:04.329 Mira Brancu: sometimes some people.

00:50:05.700 --> 00:50:06.819 Mira Brancu: organization

00:50:07.230 --> 00:50:17.840 Mira Brancu: leaders, organizational leaders want to use it for remediation like, check the box like we've tried everything. So now we've proven, we can kick you out. That is not a good use

00:50:17.880 --> 00:50:26.870 Mira Brancu: of coaching resources, and it feels bad for the the person receiving it right? If they're going to get coaching because

00:50:27.290 --> 00:50:36.390 Mira Brancu: they, you know, the the organization has identified a problem. But this is in support of their growth and development.

00:50:36.520 --> 00:50:43.252 Mira Brancu: That's different than this is an Hr process to check the boxes and

00:50:44.120 --> 00:50:52.730 Mira Brancu: you know, to to kick you out eventually, or whatever that it didn't work right. Nobody wants to be used that way. And there are also

00:50:53.913 --> 00:50:55.460 Mira Brancu: situations where

00:50:55.510 --> 00:51:09.170 Mira Brancu: I have sent people for you know an evaluation to see whether mental health, counseling, or therapy would be useful instead of coaching, and some people have come back to me after they've done that, and some people

00:51:09.200 --> 00:51:17.689 Mira Brancu: come to me saying I've had a long term therapist. They're doing their job as I need. And I also need coaching for these specific reasons.

00:51:17.710 --> 00:51:30.979 Mira Brancu: and those reasons fit coaching. And they don't fit mental health. And I'm okay with that. So I think that's important, too, like all of these little nuances, to for people to think about readiness and appropriateness for using coaching.

00:51:30.980 --> 00:51:36.989 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: Yeah. And just to just to say quickly, going back to psychology being one of those 4

00:51:37.180 --> 00:51:39.219 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: sort of foundations.

00:51:39.984 --> 00:51:44.979 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: You don't have to be a licensed clinical psychologist.

00:51:45.080 --> 00:51:53.899 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: to have had some training and exposure in general site training to some of these mental health issues and be able to recognize them.

00:51:54.090 --> 00:52:00.509 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: So that's another reason why I think a a psychological foundation is important, because

00:52:00.600 --> 00:52:05.489 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: the odds are, you will encounter somebody in a very stressful job

00:52:05.640 --> 00:52:08.040 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: who needs support

00:52:08.230 --> 00:52:11.680 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: outside of the normal realm of executive coaching.

00:52:12.270 --> 00:52:20.559 Mira Brancu: Yeah, absolutely, John. I have a million other questions, but I know our time is running low. So let's

00:52:21.180 --> 00:52:27.150 Mira Brancu: let's share a little bit about some of the resources that you have and where they can find you.

00:52:27.320 --> 00:52:27.640 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: Sure.

00:52:27.640 --> 00:52:28.185 Mira Brancu: So?

00:52:28.920 --> 00:52:32.560 Mira Brancu: 1st of all, where can they find you? What are the what are the.

00:52:32.560 --> 00:52:39.850 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: They they can find. Folks can find me on Linkedin. They can find me. The website is just

00:52:40.570 --> 00:52:46.689 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: Quinn Reed associates. All one word when read, associates.com

00:52:47.964 --> 00:52:54.175 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: they can email me if they're not messaging me on Linkedin

00:52:55.220 --> 00:53:00.470 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: and if. And my my email is just John at

00:53:01.190 --> 00:53:03.400 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: Gwynn Reed associates.

00:53:03.630 --> 00:53:07.769 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: QUYN NREE. D associates.com

00:53:08.280 --> 00:53:10.607 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: if you would like.

00:53:12.121 --> 00:53:18.979 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: a copy of I think you you have a link mirror if I'm not mistaken for the 8.

00:53:19.970 --> 00:53:22.859 Mira Brancu: Yes. So in the show notes.

00:53:22.920 --> 00:53:31.289 Mira Brancu: what you will see is one of the links. Is Www. Dot pinpointing excellence.com, which is his website

00:53:31.360 --> 00:53:40.646 Mira Brancu: backslash. Do I need a coach with hyphens in between? Do I need a coach? And that is where you can find that?

00:53:41.100 --> 00:53:51.180 Mira Brancu: you know. 8 part guide and download. You know it in in a much more in depth way to read a lot more about it. Right? Yeah.

00:53:51.180 --> 00:54:02.240 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: And then one other thing that folks might be interested in, which is the our good friend and colleague, Karen Edwards and I

00:54:02.410 --> 00:54:09.800 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: wrote an article earlier this year in the Association for Training and Development.

00:54:12.630 --> 00:54:13.860 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: magazine

00:54:13.870 --> 00:54:23.549 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: about. And it basically is a short 2 or 3 page summary of the process in the pinpointing excellence book

00:54:23.590 --> 00:54:25.380 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: that you can go through

00:54:25.610 --> 00:54:28.170 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: to identify and select a coach.

00:54:29.370 --> 00:54:30.440 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: So

00:54:31.610 --> 00:54:37.010 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: if that's something that people are interested in. They can just message or text me or

00:54:37.040 --> 00:54:39.359 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: email me, and just say.

00:54:40.280 --> 00:54:41.830 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: Article, copy.

00:54:42.200 --> 00:54:46.909 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: right? And I will. We'll then get get that out to you. Glad to do that.

00:54:47.410 --> 00:55:11.059 Mira Brancu: Excellent. If you're watching, live or watching later. The video portion of this, I am showing his website, Quinnread associates.com, and where you could find out more about the book pinpointing excellence and that article that he mentioned that he coauthored with our colleague Karen Edwards is pulling information

00:55:11.060 --> 00:55:23.119 Mira Brancu: that is really useful from this book. So again, you can email him and ask for the article article request you can go to Quinnread associates.com.

00:55:23.340 --> 00:55:33.310 Mira Brancu: You can go to pinpointing excellence.com backslash. Do I need a coach? Lots of places to learn lots and lots about John and his work.

00:55:33.480 --> 00:55:40.479 Mira Brancu: So John, one quick takeaway. What is the one thing out of all the things that we talked about

00:55:40.720 --> 00:55:42.959 Mira Brancu: that you would like the audience to take away for today.

00:55:43.260 --> 00:55:47.790 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: I I, for people who are interested in developing as a leader.

00:55:48.200 --> 00:55:53.099 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: realize that coaching is one methodology available

00:55:53.240 --> 00:56:03.099 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: and could be very, very helpful the keys to making it as helpful as possible with the best possible Roi is

00:56:03.500 --> 00:56:09.249 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: ensuring that you have the highest quality coach that fits you well.

00:56:09.580 --> 00:56:14.810 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: and then also ensuring that this is the right time. This is an optimal time

00:56:14.950 --> 00:56:19.990 John Reed PhD, MBA, MCC: for you to be engaging in coaching. Those are the those are the takeaways.

00:56:19.990 --> 00:56:25.110 Mira Brancu: Thank you. Thank you. And audience, what did you take away

00:56:25.240 --> 00:56:30.600 Mira Brancu: from our conversation today? And more importantly, what is one small change that you can implement

00:56:30.680 --> 00:56:52.460 Mira Brancu: this week, based on what you learned from John. Share it with us on Linkedin, at Mirabranku or@talkradio.nyc, so we can cheer you on. We're also on Facebook, Instagram Twitter twitch all over the place. But Linkedin is where I live and where I will respond, and I think John will respond there too. So in addition to being a live show, we're on apple spotify and Amazon podcasts

00:56:52.490 --> 00:56:56.369 Mira Brancu: help us increase our visibility, reach and impact by leaving a review.

00:56:56.560 --> 00:57:02.630 Mira Brancu: The stuff we talk about on this show is part of our research based strategic leadership, pathway, roadmap

00:57:02.800 --> 00:57:13.150 Mira Brancu: that we also teach in our Tower Scope Leadership Academy and many of our group coaching programs to learn more. Check us out@www.gotowtowerscope, dot com.

00:57:13.590 --> 00:57:27.660 Mira Brancu: and thank you to Talkradio, Nyc. For hosting. I'm Dr. Mira Branco, the host of the Hard Skills show. Thank you for joining us today with our guest, Dr. John Reid, have a great rest of your day wherever you're tuning in from bye. Everybody.

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