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EPISODE SUMMARY:
This week, on The Conscious Consultant Hour, Sam is pleased to welcome Speaker, Advisor, and Coach, J. Mathias Bennett.
Mathias supports visionary founders and funders with internal clarity about who they are, why they are here, and helps bring their projects into the world through business development and strategic partnerships.
He is also the author of the forthcoming book: Leading with Courageous Vulnerability: Regenerative Leadership for the New Age.
With a background in technology, Mathias shares the principles of leading with courageous vulnerability worldwide, to everyone from major financial institutions to young entrepreneurs.
Mathias speaks about what connects soldiers, mystics, and innovative entrepreneurs, as well as the power of failure, curiosity, and courage. He shares proven biological principles to boost creativity and innovation, and practical ways to shift your perception to affect what truly matters most in your life and business.
Tune in and share your questions and comments about Leadership in today’s world on our YouTube livestream or on our Facebook page.
00:00:45.090 --> 00:00:55.349 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Good afternoon, my conscious co-creators. Welcome to another edition of the conscious Consultant hour awakening humanity.
00:00:55.390 --> 00:01:24.430 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: I'm very, very pleased that you are all here with me today, wherever you're tuning in from. Good morning. Good evening. It could be the middle of the night because we do stream online, which means we stream globally. We appreciate all of our loyal listeners who tune in each and every week, and all of our news listeners who tune in every week and just met someone last night told them about my show. And they're like, Oh, that sounds really interesting. I got to tune into your show. So it's always
00:01:24.430 --> 00:01:50.449 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: always wonderful to get such a positive response. So I hope you're all doing well. We have a wonderful guest in store for you today. I'm really looking forward to bringing him on. But first, st of course, we have my little blog post from a couple of years ago just doing these in order, and this one's actually kind of funny, considering something. And I'll talk about that. And so today's a blog post.
00:01:51.870 --> 00:01:53.530 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: is entitled
00:01:53.770 --> 00:01:58.130 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Learning to suffer well liberates us from pain.
00:01:59.420 --> 00:02:01.319 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: We all have felt pain.
00:02:01.580 --> 00:02:03.319 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: It is a part of life.
00:02:03.750 --> 00:02:06.379 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and pain comes from suffering.
00:02:07.350 --> 00:02:10.590 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: yet we do not know how to deal
00:02:10.850 --> 00:02:12.160 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: with suffering.
00:02:13.360 --> 00:02:15.359 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: We know how to cope with pain.
00:02:15.470 --> 00:02:20.970 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: whether it is the pain from a toothache or the pain of a bad breakup.
00:02:21.670 --> 00:02:26.810 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: the grief and anguish of losing a loved one is all too familiar to us.
00:02:27.460 --> 00:02:33.680 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: especially lately, when it seems more of the people we know are leaving this existence.
00:02:34.280 --> 00:02:41.460 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Yet, even though pain is a universal experience. Rarely is it ever spoken about
00:02:41.810 --> 00:02:44.149 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: until we are in the middle of it.
00:02:45.080 --> 00:02:51.840 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: The after effects of the suffering that comes with physical pain or the pain of loss are well known.
00:02:53.050 --> 00:03:00.310 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: There are entire industries built on helping people to cope with the pain after the fact.
00:03:02.980 --> 00:03:09.459 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: So why don't we help people learn to deal with the pain and suffering before it arrives.
00:03:10.160 --> 00:03:15.700 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Learning how to suffer well is one of the best lessons we can learn.
00:03:18.800 --> 00:03:30.119 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: The after effects of the the 4, we will all go through it again. Experiencing pain and suffering is a part of life.
00:03:30.560 --> 00:03:33.989 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: You can see it everywhere if you look for it.
00:03:34.740 --> 00:03:50.800 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: fact is not necessarily a bad thing. That fact is not necessarily a bad thing, for when we learn how to deal with the pain and suffering before it arrives, it can help us to grow and evolve.
00:03:52.150 --> 00:03:58.989 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Harshness, antagonism, and violation occur every moment of every day.
00:03:59.570 --> 00:04:06.519 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: When we build up our resilience, and we learn how to get through the challenge without judgment or blame.
00:04:06.570 --> 00:04:11.099 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: then we are merely experiencing the sensation of pain.
00:04:11.990 --> 00:04:24.829 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: If we create all kinds of stories around, how we deserve it, or how we are being punished for something. Then we re-experience the pain over and over again
00:04:25.630 --> 00:04:30.860 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: it becomes a specter that overshadows our every move.
00:04:32.270 --> 00:04:34.939 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and we keep the pain alive
00:04:35.140 --> 00:04:38.309 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: far longer than it is necessary.
00:04:39.690 --> 00:04:42.620 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Pain and suffering are not personal.
00:04:43.740 --> 00:04:46.020 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: though they may feel personal.
00:04:46.700 --> 00:04:47.700 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: however.
00:04:47.920 --> 00:04:54.909 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: when we use it to help us grow. And redefine who we are, it can actually serve us.
00:04:55.620 --> 00:04:59.579 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: for we will never be the same person as we were before.
00:05:00.480 --> 00:05:08.119 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: The real question is whether we are going to use the experience to uplift and empower us
00:05:08.840 --> 00:05:14.740 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: ourselves, or are we just going to be a victim of our own suffering.
00:05:16.450 --> 00:05:22.880 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: So let us all learn how to suffer better, and it will serve us the rest of our lives.
00:05:23.950 --> 00:05:27.620 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Where in your own life are you suffering right now?
00:05:28.550 --> 00:05:33.969 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Can you learn to transform your suffering into something that actually serves you?
00:05:38.980 --> 00:05:41.479 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: A couple of years ago when I wrote this.
00:05:42.760 --> 00:05:46.100 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Guess I was probably going through something a little challenging.
00:05:47.800 --> 00:05:48.960 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and
00:05:50.270 --> 00:05:53.260 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: I always get reminded of that
00:05:53.390 --> 00:05:55.090 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Buddhist Buddhist
00:05:55.340 --> 00:05:56.980 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: idiom of
00:05:57.250 --> 00:06:00.940 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: you know, life is pain, but suffering is optional.
00:06:02.840 --> 00:06:05.799 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and a lot of people have a hard time with that.
00:06:06.940 --> 00:06:12.010 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And what I've learned over the years of doing my own personal work and working with others.
00:06:14.560 --> 00:06:15.640 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Is that
00:06:15.730 --> 00:06:19.239 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: what really causes us to suffer
00:06:20.860 --> 00:06:22.790 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: is not the pain itself.
00:06:24.470 --> 00:06:25.789 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: It's this
00:06:25.950 --> 00:06:27.340 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: dory's
00:06:27.610 --> 00:06:29.190 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: around
00:06:30.330 --> 00:06:31.410 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: pain.
00:06:31.960 --> 00:06:33.040 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: it's the.
00:06:33.170 --> 00:06:36.609 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: It's the things we make up inside our mind
00:06:36.950 --> 00:06:43.050 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: that keep the pain alive, over and over and over again, that causes the suffering.
00:06:50.760 --> 00:06:53.940 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: learning how to suffer. Well, what does that mean?
00:06:56.960 --> 00:06:59.050 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Learning how to suffer well
00:06:59.770 --> 00:07:06.599 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: is learning how to be present with our pain without letting it take us over
00:07:08.240 --> 00:07:09.390 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: without
00:07:10.130 --> 00:07:13.670 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: letting us define us in a way
00:07:14.150 --> 00:07:16.709 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: that tears us down.
00:07:17.080 --> 00:07:18.730 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: that defeats us.
00:07:19.300 --> 00:07:22.560 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: that makes us wrong or bad for something.
00:07:25.290 --> 00:07:27.640 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And this is not to say that
00:07:28.650 --> 00:07:32.169 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: pain is not here to teach us a lesson. Absolutely.
00:07:32.720 --> 00:07:35.920 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: We're doing something, and it causes pain. If it's
00:07:36.050 --> 00:07:39.470 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: it's it's a little indication that maybe we'd want to stop doing that.
00:07:43.340 --> 00:07:44.869 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: But the real
00:07:45.670 --> 00:07:48.610 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: lesson in learning how to suffer well.
00:07:51.560 --> 00:07:54.010 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: to not personalize the pain.
00:07:55.260 --> 00:07:57.830 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: to not create stories around the pain.
00:07:58.470 --> 00:08:00.439 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: The pain is what it is.
00:08:01.610 --> 00:08:06.679 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and and I'll just use the example of the loss of a loved one just because
00:08:06.830 --> 00:08:13.740 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: I I know many people right now going through that where either the parents, or
00:08:14.070 --> 00:08:16.010 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: on their way out.
00:08:16.020 --> 00:08:19.890 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: or friends, or loved ones, or some people are
00:08:19.960 --> 00:08:22.380 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: facing their own mortality.
00:08:25.220 --> 00:08:27.130 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: but mostly when it's others.
00:08:29.650 --> 00:08:32.309 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: when we lose that person that we loved.
00:08:33.070 --> 00:08:34.590 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: It causes grief.
00:08:35.120 --> 00:08:36.440 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: it's a loss.
00:08:38.760 --> 00:08:41.549 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and many times we don't honor that loss.
00:08:43.980 --> 00:08:47.030 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and so we don't honor it.
00:08:47.520 --> 00:08:50.129 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: We stay attached to the fact that
00:08:50.270 --> 00:08:52.509 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: that we've lost something.
00:08:53.460 --> 00:08:56.330 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and then we just keep suffering over and over again.
00:08:57.410 --> 00:09:00.409 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And and I've mentioned this in the past on the show
00:09:01.030 --> 00:09:04.290 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: having been brought up in the Jewish faith.
00:09:06.230 --> 00:09:14.110 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: It it's and and it's an interesting ritual, and the Jewish face. Faith isn't the only one that has this kind of ritual. But
00:09:14.460 --> 00:09:20.839 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: you know a lot of indigenous cultures. A lot of ancient cultures had a very interesting way of approaching laws.
00:09:21.420 --> 00:09:27.520 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and then the Jewish faith we call it sitting Shiva, and and the tradition around it is
00:09:27.710 --> 00:09:29.210 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: for 7 days
00:09:29.340 --> 00:09:34.270 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: like you cover mirrors. You don't play music. You don't sit on a comfortable chair.
00:09:36.330 --> 00:09:42.809 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: It's the idea that you stay very, very present to the loss and the grief for those 7 days.
00:09:44.900 --> 00:09:47.230 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And then, at the end of the 7 days
00:09:47.960 --> 00:09:50.779 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: you can still honor the person you lost.
00:09:51.510 --> 00:09:58.020 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: But you go back to normal life. You uncover the mirrors. You're able to play music, sit on
00:09:58.060 --> 00:09:59.550 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: comfortable chairs.
00:10:03.280 --> 00:10:04.280 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and it's
00:10:06.100 --> 00:10:09.539 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: it's about giving ourselves a period of time
00:10:09.800 --> 00:10:12.420 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: to experience the grief from the loss
00:10:12.860 --> 00:10:15.439 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: to honor that person who you lost.
00:10:16.550 --> 00:10:18.239 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and then to say, Okay.
00:10:20.330 --> 00:10:22.239 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: we lost them. They're gone.
00:10:22.340 --> 00:10:25.400 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: We'll remember them on the anniversary of their loss.
00:10:26.090 --> 00:10:29.039 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: But now it's time for us to move on with our lives.
00:10:30.680 --> 00:10:31.680 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And I just
00:10:31.830 --> 00:10:37.940 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: I. I have so much appreciation for that ritual now. And and other cultures have similar rituals.
00:10:39.320 --> 00:10:42.290 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: but or maybe they they practice a little differently.
00:10:44.830 --> 00:10:48.459 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: But when we're really, really present to our pain
00:10:50.500 --> 00:10:54.090 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: doesn't have to be for super long, even 7 days.
00:10:54.920 --> 00:10:57.030 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and we honor, the heartbreak.
00:10:57.940 --> 00:11:07.440 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: the loss, the grief, the agony, what we're really feeling, and not suppress it not squash it not, not bury it.
00:11:08.130 --> 00:11:12.930 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: but really allow it to be present, no matter how uncomfortable it is, and yes.
00:11:13.180 --> 00:11:19.050 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: very uncomfortable. I don't like feeling those feelings as much as the next person doesn't like feeling those feelings.
00:11:20.140 --> 00:11:21.389 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: but they're there.
00:11:22.240 --> 00:11:24.300 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and by not ignoring them.
00:11:24.500 --> 00:11:26.329 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: by being present to them.
00:11:30.050 --> 00:11:36.689 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: we can get through the pain without continuing to suffer from it.
00:11:41.880 --> 00:11:44.339 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: We all have all kinds of pain
00:11:45.670 --> 00:11:46.460 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and
00:11:46.830 --> 00:11:48.829 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and that pain, whether it's
00:11:48.970 --> 00:11:52.285 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: a severe trauma, loss of her loved one
00:11:52.740 --> 00:11:58.119 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: a a loss of identity in some way, like through losing a job or a career.
00:11:58.680 --> 00:12:00.250 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: We all experience things.
00:12:06.280 --> 00:12:08.200 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: learning to
00:12:08.770 --> 00:12:11.249 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: be okay with feeling the pain
00:12:12.800 --> 00:12:13.750 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: without
00:12:14.070 --> 00:12:16.699 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: creating a story around it.
00:12:23.230 --> 00:12:25.500 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: It will really serve us in the long.
00:12:28.510 --> 00:12:29.280 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: So
00:12:29.510 --> 00:12:35.890 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: that's my blog post for today it's entitled Learning to Suffer well
00:12:36.030 --> 00:12:38.290 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: liberates us from the pain.
00:12:38.930 --> 00:12:42.430 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and of course you can always find my blog post at
00:12:42.510 --> 00:12:51.040 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: talkradio dot Nyc slash blog. And of course, on my personal website, the conscious consultant.com
00:12:51.420 --> 00:12:53.239 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: love to hear your thoughts on
00:12:53.770 --> 00:12:58.939 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: all right. It is time for me to welcome to this my show.
00:12:59.430 --> 00:13:00.770 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: I'm so glad he
00:13:01.220 --> 00:13:07.470 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: finally got him on. Speaker, Advisor and Coach J. Matthias Bennett.
00:13:07.600 --> 00:13:21.970 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Matthias supports visionary founders and funders with internal clarity about who they are, why they are here, and helps bring their projects into the world through business development and strategic partnerships.
00:13:22.360 --> 00:13:31.679 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: He is the author of the forthcoming book leading with courageous vulnerability, regenerative leadership for the New Age.
00:13:31.970 --> 00:13:53.630 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: with a background in technology. Matthias shares the principles of leading with courageous vulnerability worldwide to everyone, from major financial institutions to young entrepreneurs. Matthias speaks about what connects soldiers mystics and innovative entrepreneurs, as well as the power of failure, curiosity, and courage.
00:13:53.790 --> 00:14:06.050 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: He shares proven biological principles to boost creativity and innovation and practical ways, to shift your perception to affect what truly matters most in your life and your business.
00:14:06.110 --> 00:14:09.149 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Welcome to the conscious consultant arrow. Matthias.
00:14:09.520 --> 00:14:12.530 J. Mathias Bennett: Thank you very much, Sam. I appreciate it. It's a pleasure to be here.
00:14:12.931 --> 00:14:15.738 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: It's wonderful to have you here. So
00:14:16.610 --> 00:14:19.859 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: I'm I'm really curious, because
00:14:20.520 --> 00:14:26.079 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: you don't necessarily always find people like us who.
00:14:26.680 --> 00:14:34.789 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: I would say, have a foot in both worlds who are very grounded in sort of the business, day-to-day world.
00:14:35.450 --> 00:14:38.769 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and sort of have a foot in the
00:14:39.410 --> 00:14:46.000 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: the more consciousness, spiritual, related world. So I'm search. I'm curious like.
00:14:46.400 --> 00:14:47.609 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: how did that
00:14:47.800 --> 00:15:00.919 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: balance come about for you? Did you have, like a very traditional grounded background and then discovered spirituality? Or were you very spiritual, and then got into entrepreneurship like, how did that path evolve.
00:15:01.620 --> 00:15:20.010 J. Mathias Bennett: Yeah, thank you for for asking. Yeah. I started out in the late nineties, doing web development and it. Then, actually, I worked for 4 years at Yale University, helping language teachers use technology to teach language.
00:15:21.060 --> 00:15:35.032 J. Mathias Bennett: And then, right about that time, 2,009, I had a serious bacterial infection and ended up at 1 point tried to heal it myself, and was staring at some tendons on my on my fingers.
00:15:36.059 --> 00:15:54.409 J. Mathias Bennett: I was able to get that patched up and then actually was guided to to receive or to to learn about the Akashic records which I know you've had some guests on essentially for your listeners. It's an energetic database, that of everything that's ever happened.
00:15:54.777 --> 00:16:08.209 J. Mathias Bennett: So that was really the taking that training that for me was like the key that unlocked the lock for the next 3 years to really have like lifetimes of information being downloaded into my consciousness.
00:16:08.950 --> 00:16:10.569 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Wow, wow.
00:16:10.700 --> 00:16:15.669 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: yeah. You know, I've I've had many people come on the show who.
00:16:16.940 --> 00:16:21.259 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: you know, usually had some kind of challenge, some kind of
00:16:21.280 --> 00:16:33.590 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: thing that happened in their life that kinda sparked that investigation or sparked that connection to spirit that then kinda opened them up to something much greater.
00:16:33.710 --> 00:16:54.989 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: So I I would love to talk to to get into this a little bit more. We wanna take our 1st break. So when we come back. I wanna talk about like, okay, you you got your Kashik record reading you. You're connected now to something more energetic, like what happened afterwards, like, what happened when you came back. And it's like, Oh, what do I do with this? Okay.
00:16:57.180 --> 00:17:15.519 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: alright. So we'll get into that right after this break. So everyone. Please stay tuned. You're listening to the conscious, consultant hour weakening humanity. We do this every Thursday 12 noon to one Pm. Eastern time right here on Talkradio, Nyc. And we will be right back with my guest, Jane Mathias Bennett. In just a moment.
00:19:31.940 --> 00:19:42.315 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And welcome back to the conscious consult now awakening humanity. We're speaking this hour with Jay Matthias Bennett. About his his path of
00:19:43.770 --> 00:19:54.052 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: we look his path towards sort of a more spiritual approach to entrepreneurship. Let's say so. So you have this experience.
00:19:54.990 --> 00:19:59.219 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: where you got kind of opened up to spirit what happened next cause
00:19:59.250 --> 00:20:09.669 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: sometimes, when when we start to talk about that to our friends and colleagues, they kind of look at us cross side, like, I think the Mathias went over the deep end. What are we doing here?
00:20:10.880 --> 00:20:17.075 J. Mathias Bennett: Yeah, that's it's it's true. And you know, it was, it was interesting back then, actually,
00:20:18.332 --> 00:20:19.797 J. Mathias Bennett: I it.
00:20:21.467 --> 00:20:29.899 J. Mathias Bennett: My then wife and I were founding members of a church. And basically they when I
00:20:30.010 --> 00:20:38.239 J. Mathias Bennett: wanted to do the Akashic records and study them, they basically kind of had an intervention. They're like, Hey, you know, we think you should really just, you know, get
00:20:38.510 --> 00:20:46.298 J. Mathias Bennett: get to studying the Bible, and you know I I mean, bless the hearts they were trying to help as best as they could.
00:20:46.730 --> 00:20:57.020 J. Mathias Bennett: But you know, but I'd rather like was clear that I'd rather follow what God was calling me to do rather than not do that because I was afraid of what people were. Gonna think
00:20:58.510 --> 00:21:02.360 J. Mathias Bennett: for the next 3 years, I mean, I
00:21:04.000 --> 00:21:27.469 J. Mathias Bennett: I did some client work and with the records. But then I was really asking myself, Okay, well, what do I really need to be a happy human. So in the beginning of 2012 I moved to an island and slept in tent for a year. This is off the coast of Seattle, Washington, for those of you in the Pacific, Northwest.
00:21:28.224 --> 00:21:33.110 J. Mathias Bennett: and I received these principles of leading with courageous vulnerability.
00:21:33.480 --> 00:21:34.580 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Hmm.
00:21:39.530 --> 00:21:42.460 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: So you slept in the tent for a year
00:21:43.190 --> 00:21:48.819 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: by yourself, I mean, like not with anyone else. Were you meditating every day. What were you doing for that year.
00:21:48.820 --> 00:22:07.729 J. Mathias Bennett: Yeah. Well, I mean, fortunately, I mean, there was other. You know things on the land. It wasn't only me, although I was, you know, that was basically, you know where I slept every night. A lot of land. You know, working, doing work exchange on the land and
00:22:08.351 --> 00:22:12.929 J. Mathias Bennett: on the property there, and a lot of just deep inner work.
00:22:14.500 --> 00:22:27.950 J. Mathias Bennett: you know. Really? Excavating, you know, you you mentioned your blog post. I think that's that's really that's really true. And like, Non, you know, personalizing it. And I think the the ability to, for example, emote emotion.
00:22:28.497 --> 00:22:33.749 J. Mathias Bennett: but actually, like even quickly step out of that and say like.
00:22:33.770 --> 00:22:51.460 J. Mathias Bennett: Oh, you know, yes, here, and you know, have a have a functional in for interaction with someone, and then, like, go back to that. You know, that's a it's an interesting kind of experience, because, you know, it's it's just channeling through you. It's not necessarily about you.
00:22:51.600 --> 00:22:53.209 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Hmm, hmm, hmm!
00:22:54.630 --> 00:22:56.260 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And and so
00:22:56.350 --> 00:22:58.549 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: what happened after you
00:22:58.640 --> 00:23:02.609 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: emerged that year of spending it on the 10th like W.
00:23:02.630 --> 00:23:06.520 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Did you come out with a new direction in life. Did you come out with
00:23:06.580 --> 00:23:10.700 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: with a new perspective on on what to do or what you wanted to do?
00:23:11.630 --> 00:23:30.179 J. Mathias Bennett: You know it. It was. It was quite fascinating. Because in the beginning of 2,013 I I woke up, and that the 10 had molded out, and I realized I'd been a hypocrite because I had been talking about leading with courageous vulnerability. But I hadn't been asking for what I quote unquote, truly need
00:23:31.670 --> 00:23:45.385 J. Mathias Bennett: and long story short, that set me off on a journey to put these principles into practice. So I ended up crowdfunding my way from the northwest down to the southwest, just making it across the desert, and ended up
00:23:45.920 --> 00:24:02.340 J. Mathias Bennett: giving away last $3 on an offering plate and and encinitas California, and ended up on the beach. So you know, when I look back it, it, you know, that was, it was interesting. It almost seems kinda
00:24:02.350 --> 00:24:09.540 J. Mathias Bennett: childish in a certain way, or, or, you know, just kind of putting these principles into practice in a very.
00:24:10.340 --> 00:24:11.480 J. Mathias Bennett: in a very
00:24:11.960 --> 00:24:15.310 J. Mathias Bennett: adolescent way. I guess that makes sense. But I wrote
00:24:15.430 --> 00:24:20.709 J. Mathias Bennett: I I wrote a memoir about that which I have yet to yet to publish. But
00:24:21.640 --> 00:24:22.370 J. Mathias Bennett: yeah,
00:24:23.710 --> 00:24:31.448 J. Mathias Bennett: but you know fast forward, I mean, I ended up you know, going to Morocco and and sharing these principles.
00:24:32.180 --> 00:24:35.780 J. Mathias Bennett: and you know a number of people across the.
00:24:36.120 --> 00:24:41.729 J. Mathias Bennett: you know. In various realms have found it helpful. So.
00:24:42.060 --> 00:24:42.910 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Hmm!
00:24:43.020 --> 00:24:43.890 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: So
00:24:44.180 --> 00:24:48.860 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: I mean, Anthony is California. I've been there. It's a nice place to end up on the beach.
00:24:49.210 --> 00:24:50.980 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: but
00:24:51.870 --> 00:24:53.040 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: when you.
00:24:54.440 --> 00:25:02.530 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: when you take a look at the sort of like you being vulnerable and and learning to ask for what you need.
00:25:02.720 --> 00:25:17.210 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: A a lot of people in the business world. Look at vulnerability as being weak like they're afraid to be vulnerable with their teams. Because they feel like their teams are looking up to them. They're supposed to be the leader.
00:25:17.710 --> 00:25:25.210 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: How can somebody be truly vulnerable when you're in a position of authority and not appear? Quote unquote
00:25:25.460 --> 00:25:26.150 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: week.
00:25:27.670 --> 00:25:39.059 J. Mathias Bennett: Yeah, I I think I think that's it's a great question. And certainly Brene Brown talks a lot a about that. She's a she's a great resource. I think, for me in a nutshell is to be appropriately.
00:25:39.080 --> 00:25:50.389 J. Mathias Bennett: appropriately vulnerable to be able to. You know you wouldn't necessarily share your inner thoughts or doubts with your whole team. But you
00:25:51.940 --> 00:25:53.987 J. Mathias Bennett: You want to.
00:25:55.260 --> 00:26:10.490 J. Mathias Bennett: you! You want to at least be honest with them about what is going on and and to really have a have a level of transparency where they really understand where you're coming from. I mean, even if it's something as simple as saying, Hey, you know.
00:26:11.033 --> 00:26:15.429 J. Mathias Bennett: I'm really having a bad day right now, so my fuse is kind of short
00:26:16.050 --> 00:26:26.350 J. Mathias Bennett: that can go wonders in in go a long way in terms of just being able to have somebody around, you understand? Okay, I just need to give them a
00:26:26.600 --> 00:26:30.079 J. Mathias Bennett: you know space right now, and a little bit more consideration.
00:26:30.440 --> 00:26:31.410 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Hmm, sweet
00:26:32.280 --> 00:26:33.950 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: gotcha gotcha.
00:26:36.680 --> 00:26:38.080 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: okay? And
00:26:39.070 --> 00:26:40.970 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and so I'm curious like
00:26:41.120 --> 00:26:43.249 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: you. You wrote your your
00:26:43.510 --> 00:26:49.579 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: you I'm assuming you finished writing it. I know it didn't come out yet. Leading with courageous vulnerability
00:26:50.530 --> 00:26:56.700 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: what was sort of the impetus that made you say like, Hmm! I really want to put pen to paper. Not just
00:26:56.850 --> 00:26:58.529 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: teach people about
00:26:58.680 --> 00:27:03.720 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: leading with vulnerability, but but I wanna write about and put a book out about it.
00:27:05.220 --> 00:27:06.005 J. Mathias Bennett: Yeah,
00:27:07.240 --> 00:27:08.815 J. Mathias Bennett: well, it's it's
00:27:10.040 --> 00:27:21.270 J. Mathias Bennett: I I mean, that actually started with the memoir. And then at 1 point I was clear that you know, what really needs to happen was is a nonfiction book as opposed to memoir. Because.
00:27:21.370 --> 00:27:28.427 J. Mathias Bennett: you know, who cares? Just some random story from some random guy. I I think really
00:27:29.680 --> 00:27:38.432 J. Mathias Bennett: You know these these principles are, for they could can be for everyone. However, I think the the the
00:27:39.330 --> 00:27:48.449 J. Mathias Bennett: You know. My intention especially, is for those of us that are in places of privilege to be able to lean into some of these principles.
00:27:49.050 --> 00:27:51.209 J. Mathias Bennett: So that we can
00:27:51.750 --> 00:27:53.410 J. Mathias Bennett: basically
00:27:53.520 --> 00:28:05.210 J. Mathias Bennett: do the thing that we're. You know that we know that we need to do and to have courage to do that. And then by doing so, then we can be in a better space where we can lift others up who are truly vulnerable.
00:28:05.310 --> 00:28:18.620 J. Mathias Bennett: So when you look, when I personally, look at the big picture, and we can talk a little bit later about this in terms of connecting with regeneration. I I see that. I mean. It's it's a it's a whole. I see this as being one piece
00:28:19.177 --> 00:28:24.820 J. Mathias Bennett: that is part of the planetary planet Wide project to really build the earth that we want to see.
00:28:25.260 --> 00:28:26.730 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah.
00:28:27.858 --> 00:28:33.720 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: I want to go back to something you said before, which is that you ended up going to Morocco
00:28:33.900 --> 00:28:38.160 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and teaching this stuff in Morocco. How did you end up in Morocco? And and
00:28:38.240 --> 00:28:42.710 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: what was that experience like? How do they respond to you teaching this stuff? There.
00:28:44.680 --> 00:28:48.622 J. Mathias Bennett: Well, like like many stories, it started with a girl
00:28:50.254 --> 00:29:00.694 J. Mathias Bennett: but and it was clear that you know that once I'd gotten there. That relationship ended soon after. But I I had
00:29:01.370 --> 00:29:06.490 J. Mathias Bennett: ended up being there for 3 years and spoken 35 events.
00:29:06.961 --> 00:29:10.940 J. Mathias Bennett: I think, in 4 or 5 West African countries, mostly in Morocco.
00:29:11.562 --> 00:29:21.490 J. Mathias Bennett: to universities and and higher financial corporations, and I was received well, I was grateful to to receive.
00:29:21.590 --> 00:29:32.300 J. Mathias Bennett: to support young entrepreneurs, to work with major corporations in the context of innovation, and shared that message from stage as part of that, and then also was invited
00:29:32.894 --> 00:29:38.109 J. Mathias Bennett: to contribute to the founding of an organization that is now
00:29:38.200 --> 00:29:43.149 J. Mathias Bennett: basically served over 50,000 young entrepreneurs to, you know, up to date.
00:29:43.920 --> 00:29:45.670 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Wonderful wonderful
00:29:46.460 --> 00:29:47.160 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: cool.
00:29:51.050 --> 00:29:51.850 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: a.
00:29:55.960 --> 00:30:02.659 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: okay, let us take our break. I just realized I missed all my chat messages. And when we come back.
00:30:03.130 --> 00:30:07.980 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Let. I want to talk about regenerative leadership. And and why
00:30:08.270 --> 00:30:20.209 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: more and more people? I'm hearing this idea of regeneration. In in the conversations lately. Why is this so important? And and why should we be paying attention to it? Okay.
00:30:21.770 --> 00:30:22.610 J. Mathias Bennett: Sounds good.
00:30:23.050 --> 00:30:27.179 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Wonderful. Everybody. Please stay tuned. We are listening to
00:30:27.190 --> 00:30:39.809 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: the conscious consult now awakening humanity. My guest. This hour is Jay Matthias Bennett, author of the upcoming book leading with courageous vulnerability, regenerative leadership for the new age. And we'll be right back
00:30:40.070 --> 00:30:41.900 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: to talk about the book in just a moment.
00:32:47.780 --> 00:33:09.259 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And welcome back to the conscious, consultant hour awakening humanity. Just a quick shout out to one of our live listeners, my good friend Harris Gershon says he went from living in a tent to being a beach bum love his lifestyle. I'm sure you get that a lot.
00:33:09.530 --> 00:33:15.689 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Alright the subtitle of your upcoming book is regenerative leadership for the new Age.
00:33:16.290 --> 00:33:26.660 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: I've been hearing more and more people talking about not just sustainability, but regeneration as as a concept of a way of approaching life.
00:33:27.770 --> 00:33:36.689 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: What is just? If you quickly define what is regeneration for us? And why do we need to be focused on it so much right now. Why is it so important.
00:33:37.380 --> 00:33:38.006 J. Mathias Bennett: Yeah.
00:33:39.610 --> 00:33:45.209 J. Mathias Bennett: well, I think that's 1 of the the challenges right now is that is that there?
00:33:46.350 --> 00:33:53.930 J. Mathias Bennett: You know, th, there's a lot of people with a lot of different opinions on what that is. Broadly speaking, you know, the idea of
00:33:54.583 --> 00:33:58.929 J. Mathias Bennett: sustainability is basically not doing any more bad.
00:33:59.620 --> 00:34:09.750 J. Mathias Bennett: You know, you go from an extractive economy to to sustainable. You're just just kind of maintaining, whereas regeneration is really about
00:34:09.880 --> 00:34:25.679 J. Mathias Bennett: building up nature and really supporting and working in synergy with the earth as opposed to either being totally extractive or just kind of, you know, keeping things the way they are.
00:34:26.090 --> 00:34:27.649 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Gotcha gotcha.
00:34:28.300 --> 00:34:30.859 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And and why is this important today?
00:34:31.590 --> 00:34:37.156 J. Mathias Bennett: Well, I think it's important today, because we really see ourselves.
00:34:37.860 --> 00:34:54.280 J. Mathias Bennett: you know, we we find ourselves in a spot where we have not respected the earth in so many different ways, and I don't. I think the whole idea of you know climate, and at least the overall climate. Narrative. I. I have some
00:34:54.520 --> 00:35:05.160 J. Mathias Bennett: be kind of issues with that, because I think that that is playing into the agenda of other people that have their own agendas rather than
00:35:05.190 --> 00:35:26.495 J. Mathias Bennett: purely wanting what's best for people and what's best for the earth? But but I think that it is important. Because not only with the ecological crisis, but crisis of meaning and spiritual crisis. I'm paraphrasing. There's a there's a quote from a
00:35:27.280 --> 00:35:40.140 J. Mathias Bennett: I'm gonna paraphrase this quote. But th, this environmental attorney that says, you know, he spent, you know, 20 years working on different type of scientific issues and basically
00:35:40.410 --> 00:35:52.059 J. Mathias Bennett: that we know everything that we need to do. But science can't do that. But what what we're experiencing is a crisis of of cultural and spiritual meaning.
00:35:52.400 --> 00:35:52.860 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Yeah.
00:35:52.860 --> 00:36:01.053 J. Mathias Bennett: So I think that that is where and that is kind of a ha had recently with this book because I had
00:36:01.490 --> 00:36:09.629 J. Mathias Bennett: you know, I'd kind of gotten to a place where? Because in the last 5 years, actually, I'd worked with regenerative
00:36:09.980 --> 00:36:22.379 J. Mathias Bennett: entrepreneurs, green energy in terms of business development strategic partnerships. And there's really so I'm not necessarily an expert. But it's only from the past 5 years that I'm even
00:36:22.590 --> 00:36:27.829 J. Mathias Bennett: seeing how my previous work can apply to this, you know, to this domain.
00:36:28.100 --> 00:36:29.660 J. Mathias Bennett: And so
00:36:31.370 --> 00:36:34.661 J. Mathias Bennett: I see that. It it
00:36:38.059 --> 00:36:50.059 J. Mathias Bennett: th. This. This is the opportunity that we have essentially to to to create the earth that we wanna see in a in a nutshell. So I'll hand it back over to you. There's a lot. There's a lot of.
00:36:50.060 --> 00:36:55.139 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Yeah, I get. I get it. You know I'm I'm kind of playing devil's advocate here, because I'm I totally
00:36:55.170 --> 00:36:58.589 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: believe that that this is what we need to do, and that
00:36:58.620 --> 00:37:03.740 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: we've been essentially raping the earth for so many decades.
00:37:03.800 --> 00:37:06.719 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and the earth is now
00:37:07.265 --> 00:37:09.890 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: like any being would be
00:37:11.340 --> 00:37:17.559 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: fighting back in a way and showing us that you know we we can't keep
00:37:18.190 --> 00:37:21.170 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: existing the way we've been existing
00:37:21.270 --> 00:37:23.069 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: in this very
00:37:24.290 --> 00:37:26.090 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: consumerist
00:37:26.120 --> 00:37:29.569 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: mindset of just consume consume consume?
00:37:31.660 --> 00:37:33.630 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: You know that there's there's a
00:37:34.110 --> 00:37:37.079 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: I always heard it as a native American saying
00:37:37.510 --> 00:37:41.170 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: that you don't own the land the land owns you.
00:37:42.530 --> 00:37:46.560 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And that we're really here to be good stewards
00:37:47.370 --> 00:37:50.489 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: of what's around us, and and not only
00:37:50.700 --> 00:37:53.360 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: for the sake of the planet, for our own sake.
00:37:53.520 --> 00:37:58.469 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: for our own future, for the future of our children's children's children's children.
00:37:58.940 --> 00:38:01.569 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: that by being good stewards
00:38:02.010 --> 00:38:05.430 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: of the environment around us and the whole planet.
00:38:06.160 --> 00:38:08.139 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: We it, it just
00:38:08.180 --> 00:38:11.050 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: it makes sense because we're
00:38:11.070 --> 00:38:13.569 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: protecting the future in a way.
00:38:13.980 --> 00:38:14.670 J. Mathias Bennett: Yes.
00:38:15.400 --> 00:38:16.450 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And so, yeah.
00:38:17.040 --> 00:38:18.550 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: so how do we
00:38:20.010 --> 00:38:28.020 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: get this concept of regenerative leadership into a a society into this
00:38:28.080 --> 00:38:32.570 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: kind of matrix that's really built on a very extractive
00:38:33.810 --> 00:38:35.380 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: type of mindset.
00:38:37.042 --> 00:38:38.610 J. Mathias Bennett: Well, excuse me.
00:38:38.800 --> 00:38:43.220 J. Mathias Bennett: I think that's the big question, right? That's the big question that a lot of
00:38:43.350 --> 00:38:53.609 J. Mathias Bennett: smart tuned in very compassionate committed individuals are attempting, or they're not just attempting. They're they're doing
00:38:55.090 --> 00:38:56.016 J. Mathias Bennett: you know.
00:38:56.700 --> 00:38:58.679 J. Mathias Bennett: And so
00:39:01.270 --> 00:39:03.129 J. Mathias Bennett: yeah, yeah, I
00:39:04.540 --> 00:39:23.269 J. Mathias Bennett: think, being able to see. And and a part of a a little in the also in the past 5 years, I mean, I was based on on Maui, and had the opportunity to work with the nation of Hawaii. And really got a more experiential understanding.
00:39:24.510 --> 00:39:30.560 J. Mathias Bennett: you know, of of the land management there in Hawaii, which actually is.
00:39:30.570 --> 00:39:37.039 J. Mathias Bennett: you know, very similar to many other types of indigenous land management and and permaculture. I mean the the I,
00:39:37.450 --> 00:39:40.889 J. Mathias Bennett: the the things are that are that are very.
00:39:41.280 --> 00:39:50.420 J. Mathias Bennett: you know, they echo. And so one of the things that that really stood out to me is in Hawaiian the word for fresh water is vie w AI!
00:39:50.520 --> 00:39:53.860 J. Mathias Bennett: The word for wealth is vive.
00:39:54.300 --> 00:40:06.559 J. Mathias Bennett: And so when you look at, for example, it's called the Ahapua, the traditional Hawaiian land management from the top of the mountain all the way down to the sea, which essentially is like a watershed
00:40:09.970 --> 00:40:17.390 J. Mathias Bennett: you. Basically, they would organize things so that the water would flow.
00:40:18.740 --> 00:40:20.210 J. Mathias Bennett: As as as
00:40:20.280 --> 00:40:22.299 J. Mathias Bennett: you know, as.
00:40:22.370 --> 00:40:39.569 J. Mathias Bennett: and and be distributed on the landscape in a way that could work with humans. And the way that could work for nature. And this definitely is, you know, you may have heard of the permaculture about slow it spread it, sink it in terms of water management.
00:40:39.700 --> 00:40:51.510 J. Mathias Bennett: So think that that definitely relates and also even in terms of quote unquote climate catastrophes that you see now.
00:40:51.630 --> 00:40:55.409 J. Mathias Bennett: down, down, you know, Dell uses and downpourings.
00:40:55.510 --> 00:41:04.020 J. Mathias Bennett: It's I can't remember who said this, but the idea that there's no water problems. There's only water management problems. So you know the whole idea of
00:41:04.100 --> 00:41:06.810 J. Mathias Bennett: in in the climate narrative about
00:41:06.900 --> 00:41:08.610 J. Mathias Bennett: carbon carbon carbon.
00:41:08.640 --> 00:41:21.300 J. Mathias Bennett: I think that's a little bit of a red herring. I mean, if I had to choose one thing, and again, no expert here. But if I had to choose the one thing, it would be water, and how could we purify water. How could we manage water? How could we.
00:41:21.540 --> 00:41:31.399 J. Mathias Bennett: you know, retain that? And you know, for example, the water coming up, evapotranspiration, evapotranspiration, transpiration from the trees.
00:41:31.400 --> 00:41:31.940 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: -
00:41:31.940 --> 00:41:41.490 J. Mathias Bennett: That essentially, you know, like purifies the microplastics. There's no, there's microplastics and a lot of other places. But the vapa transpiration that's coming out.
00:41:41.520 --> 00:41:48.260 J. Mathias Bennett: you know, is that that acts as a natural filter in that in that way. So
00:41:48.330 --> 00:41:50.596 J. Mathias Bennett: I think there's there's a lot of
00:41:51.290 --> 00:42:00.800 J. Mathias Bennett: And and then also kind of getting into the the next bit, which I think in regards to flow, is quite interesting, because I had a
00:42:01.090 --> 00:42:03.700 J. Mathias Bennett: this. This Aha!
00:42:03.980 --> 00:42:08.960 J. Mathias Bennett: Between being in flow states for humans at an individual level and water about
00:42:09.190 --> 00:42:14.520 J. Mathias Bennett: right now we're seeing where you have the huge deluges and floods of water
00:42:15.218 --> 00:42:20.001 J. Mathias Bennett: for the earth. And then as humans, we're being deluged by information.
00:42:20.818 --> 00:42:25.360 J. Mathias Bennett: And so how is it possible to actually be in right relationship
00:42:25.370 --> 00:42:33.930 J. Mathias Bennett: with water? How is it possible in, in the context of us and the planet? How is it possible to be in context with the right.
00:42:34.030 --> 00:42:37.141 J. Mathias Bennett: in the right relationship with attention?
00:42:37.810 --> 00:42:40.610 J. Mathias Bennett: And if we find the answers to those questions, I think those are
00:42:40.680 --> 00:42:41.780 J. Mathias Bennett: those are big ones.
00:42:42.160 --> 00:42:44.629 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Hmm, gotcha, gotcha!
00:42:44.690 --> 00:42:46.630 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Are are you finding
00:42:47.240 --> 00:42:55.269 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: leaders like either for startups or and established companies are more open to this conversation about
00:42:55.660 --> 00:42:57.360 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: the regenerative
00:42:59.080 --> 00:43:01.010 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: way of approaching things.
00:43:03.398 --> 00:43:08.769 J. Mathias Bennett: It's a good question. I think I think it depends. You know, I've been working with those who are
00:43:08.830 --> 00:43:10.502 J. Mathias Bennett: who are really
00:43:11.580 --> 00:43:25.800 J. Mathias Bennett: you know, who are already sold actually. And so you know, I I've yet to have the opportunity to work with. Those who have not yet been sold. However, I have been asked to
00:43:26.753 --> 00:43:27.596 J. Mathias Bennett: contribute
00:43:28.630 --> 00:43:29.450 J. Mathias Bennett: to
00:43:32.620 --> 00:43:34.086 J. Mathias Bennett: to a
00:43:35.390 --> 00:43:39.118 J. Mathias Bennett: an educational course for a major.
00:43:40.341 --> 00:43:47.720 J. Mathias Bennett: major educational institution in in in in in a country in Africa, which is.
00:43:48.032 --> 00:43:58.379 J. Mathias Bennett: quite exciting to to be able to, at least, you know. Take some of the other things that I've learned in that experience, and and to you know, to to be of support in that way.
00:43:59.460 --> 00:44:00.210 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Dutch.
00:44:00.540 --> 00:44:03.014 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Beautiful, beautiful. Okay.
00:44:04.830 --> 00:44:09.270 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: I I could talk to you all day long, but we have to take our next break.
00:44:09.360 --> 00:44:13.709 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And and so when we come back to conclude the show, I'd be curious about
00:44:14.550 --> 00:44:25.019 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: if there are any particular projects you're working on right now that you'd like to talk about that kind of lean into this and maybe talk about like how your spiritual practice
00:44:25.060 --> 00:44:34.355 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: is really informing the way you show up today. And and and then, like the types of projects you help to get funding for, and the types of
00:44:35.130 --> 00:44:41.820 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: things that you you put your energy towards how does your spiritual practice inform that? Okay.
00:44:43.590 --> 00:44:44.399 J. Mathias Bennett: Sounds good.
00:44:44.590 --> 00:45:01.869 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Cool, cool, so everyone, please stay tuned. You're listening to the conscious, consulting hour awakening humanity, our guest this hours, Jane Mathias Bennett, author of the upcoming book leading with courageous vulnerability. And we'll be right back to tie it all up in just a moment.
00:47:10.010 --> 00:47:11.780 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: So, Matthias.
00:47:12.220 --> 00:47:19.439 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: your work right now is really helping founders. People who are who are creating startups
00:47:19.780 --> 00:47:27.890 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: as well as people who fund startups to kind of make. Be that matchmaker and kind of put them together. I'm curious.
00:47:28.000 --> 00:47:30.360 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: What kinds of startups
00:47:30.640 --> 00:47:48.489 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: are you seeing? Are you working with? And if you can't disclose exactly what they're doing, I I understand. But to give us sort of a flavor of like, what kinds of things are you seeing that really has you excited that that has, you feel like, Oh, these guys really get it. And they and they're going in a beautiful direction.
00:47:50.220 --> 00:47:58.729 J. Mathias Bennett: Well, that's it's a it's a really really great great question. And I could go on all day about the different
00:47:59.130 --> 00:48:03.370 J. Mathias Bennett: initiatives and and and
00:48:04.210 --> 00:48:15.739 J. Mathias Bennett: companies in in various. Yeah, yeah. So I would say, one actually is from India. And they have a product called Boosri and
00:48:16.460 --> 00:48:17.380 J. Mathias Bennett: and
00:48:18.330 --> 00:48:21.760 J. Mathias Bennett: it is basically a soil tester.
00:48:22.410 --> 00:48:35.790 J. Mathias Bennett: And it is a manure maker. So you can basically take input of any type of type of vegetative material, wet or dry, and it creates 2 sun, 2 tons of
00:48:35.950 --> 00:48:58.033 J. Mathias Bennett: what they what they're calling manure. Technically, it is manure. It's pellets that is essentially soil remediation and and that it's specifically calibrated using micronutrients to that is for whatever that soil needs right there. So they can create 2 tons per hour. And it's a mobile unit and
00:48:58.940 --> 00:49:11.720 J. Mathias Bennett: that's a it's. And also the philosophy is on because it's it's it's technology in service to the planet as opposed to. Hey, let's go and and try and and tinker with things that we shouldn't.
00:49:12.690 --> 00:49:14.190 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And then.
00:49:14.190 --> 00:49:18.708 J. Mathias Bennett: You create all sorts of problems that you have to try and fix later.
00:49:19.010 --> 00:49:20.080 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Right. Right?
00:49:20.360 --> 00:49:37.460 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: I I see. Harris again on on the Linkedin live, says I, like this Con, his concept of regenerative leadership. If this could be applied to the sustainability movement, you would have, in my opinion, a winning foundation for an emerging business graduate program.
00:49:38.400 --> 00:49:38.900 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: You'd look.
00:49:39.184 --> 00:49:52.819 J. Mathias Bennett: Well, thank you. And and I appreciate that. And also I wanna say it's I don't think it's I don't know if I don't think it's my concept. You know, I mean, there's plenty of amazing people out there, I mean, certainly, like Ty Tyler, you
00:49:53.180 --> 00:49:55.280 J. Mathias Bennett: quartz and
00:49:56.755 --> 00:50:00.490 J. Mathias Bennett: bio in from Nigeria
00:50:00.560 --> 00:50:01.940 J. Mathias Bennett: and
00:50:02.342 --> 00:50:26.039 J. Mathias Bennett: and Chloe Valdari of, for example, the theory of enchantment, which is a that's more having to do with, like, you know, connecting people and race relations. There's there's many people especially, you know, all across doing, you know, doing amazing work. So I you know my interest is being a support that I that I can, and using
00:50:26.380 --> 00:50:37.119 J. Mathias Bennett: using any privilege that I might have to to lift all boats. However, that said, you know, it's interesting. You mentioned that I am in conversation with
00:50:37.980 --> 00:50:51.180 J. Mathias Bennett: someone who is in the beginning stages of an environmental program. I think that it also is connected with with business as well. So if the if any of my work can be in service to that, I'm happy to.
00:50:51.690 --> 00:50:59.740 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: You, you know. I spoke with a an entrepreneur who who was being very mindful about like his impact and what he was doing.
00:50:59.890 --> 00:51:03.539 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and and he came up with like this power product. For like a phone.
00:51:03.550 --> 00:51:07.260 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and when in chatting with him, he said that
00:51:07.410 --> 00:51:10.810 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: it was really difficult for him to
00:51:11.310 --> 00:51:27.119 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: not not just get funding, but just to survive as a business, because by being more mindful and more careful of of toxicity and waste and all that stuff. His expenses were much higher than his competitors.
00:51:27.330 --> 00:51:30.339 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: so he couldn't put out a product
00:51:30.450 --> 00:51:32.679 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: at a competitive price
00:51:32.690 --> 00:51:36.499 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: against what they're doing. So so he had to put it out as a, as a.
00:51:36.600 --> 00:51:46.560 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: as a more expensive price is sort of a luxury good to appeal to people that well, because of. You know all natural materials, or this or that.
00:51:46.700 --> 00:51:47.590 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: A young.
00:51:48.100 --> 00:51:53.650 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: you know. It seems like there are a lot of barriers in place for companies that want to do things
00:51:53.760 --> 00:51:57.210 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: more regenerative and sustainably
00:51:57.390 --> 00:52:03.299 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: because the society is so built around that this, this extractive process?
00:52:03.850 --> 00:52:06.969 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: How do we overcome that? How do we
00:52:07.280 --> 00:52:09.980 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: get past that hurdle of
00:52:10.580 --> 00:52:12.220 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: of being both
00:52:12.520 --> 00:52:14.650 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: profitable and
00:52:14.670 --> 00:52:18.799 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: regenerative and mindful, and in alignment with these principles.
00:52:19.630 --> 00:52:33.129 J. Mathias Bennett: I I mean, that's that's a that's another big big question and it's it's a it's a huge one. I and I I would say, what comes to mind is and and it is a challenge, because you have
00:52:33.170 --> 00:52:48.879 J. Mathias Bennett: the, you know, business externalities of someone that's only going after pure profit, and they're not being limited by those things that you're limiting yourself with. If you want to be conscious and understand everything through the supply chain, and where things are coming from, and that
00:52:48.920 --> 00:52:53.750 J. Mathias Bennett: all the workers are having a fair living wage, and so on and so forth. I think, then, though
00:52:53.820 --> 00:53:12.612 J. Mathias Bennett: the the opportunity is is, is, as you mentioned, of 4. Differentiation is to really clearly differentiate what you are doing and why you're doing it and and that, you know there are those people who do want to prioritize
00:53:13.210 --> 00:53:15.959 J. Mathias Bennett: putting their dollars
00:53:16.140 --> 00:53:25.380 J. Mathias Bennett: that they spend that are in alignment with their values. I mean. For example, I mean the the Loas movement, which is now growing more and more and more.
00:53:25.781 --> 00:53:35.069 J. Mathias Bennett: You, it's it's it's getting bigger. And and I would say, it is getting easier to do that, even though there are still systemic challenges
00:53:35.130 --> 00:53:47.561 J. Mathias Bennett: to that some of which are getting easier. For example, like using the blockchain as a technology for tracking the supply chain and things. And, for example, I mean one
00:53:49.550 --> 00:53:53.160 J. Mathias Bennett: one company I know from from Ireland, gaia dot
00:53:53.655 --> 00:54:07.869 J. Mathias Bennett: ie. Actually has a way where, let's say you have a concert ticket. You pay an extra dollar, and actually you can scan the bar code, and you can, essentially, that would take you to the square meter of forest
00:54:07.950 --> 00:54:10.500 J. Mathias Bennett: that that has helped regenerate.
00:54:10.830 --> 00:54:21.120 J. Mathias Bennett: And you can actually see that grow over time, you know. So with technology, you're able to have a a grand, more granular
00:54:21.250 --> 00:54:25.943 J. Mathias Bennett: tracking. I would say in a good and constructive way,
00:54:27.210 --> 00:54:32.019 J. Mathias Bennett: You know that that can track the good that is being done.
00:54:32.020 --> 00:54:54.070 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Hmm, hmm! It sounds like you, you know a lot of things that you mentioned, or things happening in other countries, not in the United States. And and I think sometimes when you live here in the United States, you get so United States focus. And you think it's the whole world, and it's not. And there's actually a lot going on outside of this country that's very exciting and and very fascinating.
00:54:54.230 --> 00:55:01.299 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Do you see? Like a real global movement? Or is it really just isolated to a few places.
00:55:01.890 --> 00:55:10.499 J. Mathias Bennett: Oh, I I would say, absolutely global. And I think it's it's it's good in it. And it makes sense. Just like, for example, that
00:55:10.800 --> 00:55:11.960 J. Mathias Bennett: we
00:55:12.060 --> 00:55:31.691 J. Mathias Bennett: from both from a regulatory and a business environment? In in a number of ways, you know there are. And I don't even, you know. Let's say, you know, countries in the global South cause I don't. I mean the idea of developing countries. Or you know, though those labels are even, you know, apparently Western sense.
00:55:32.320 --> 00:55:37.049 J. Mathias Bennett: that that they have. They've needed to
00:55:37.080 --> 00:55:46.580 J. Mathias Bennett: create these different technologies, and sometimes they are, have less limitation to be able to bring them to market.
00:55:47.220 --> 00:55:48.460 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Right? Right?
00:55:50.240 --> 00:55:52.090 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: so just a
00:55:52.240 --> 00:55:57.790 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: a. A last question. And and it's kind of what I alluded to before the break
00:55:58.540 --> 00:56:00.210 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: with what you're doing.
00:56:00.420 --> 00:56:04.240 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: How does your spiritual practice, or how does your spiritual belief
00:56:04.280 --> 00:56:08.490 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: inform what you're doing on a day to day basis? How is it
00:56:08.680 --> 00:56:14.530 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: like? Is it giving you a foundation? Is it giving you perspective like, what is it doing that's supporting?
00:56:14.660 --> 00:56:17.080 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: You know what you're trying to do in the world?
00:56:17.920 --> 00:56:22.633 J. Mathias Bennett: Hmm! I would, I would say. It's you know, it's fundamental to that.
00:56:23.010 --> 00:56:44.139 J. Mathias Bennett: you know, in a certain way, like it's it's all a conversation, whether I'm having a conversation with people or with, you know, my spiritual guide. There's there's constant feedback loops. One of the things that helped me. Grounded is is basically now is A is a our well, at least, Yoga every day may not be.
00:56:44.140 --> 00:57:05.559 J. Mathias Bennett: you know, depending on on the amount of time that I might have. But but yoga every day and also, I'm I'm excited to to to start and and continue this performance, neuroscience coaching certification, essentially, as I mentioned before, like helping myself and then helping others to visionaries to get into flow states.
00:57:07.320 --> 00:57:08.080 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Hmm!
00:57:08.310 --> 00:57:10.730 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Beautiful, beautiful, beautiful!
00:57:11.060 --> 00:57:18.289 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: So, Mathias, it's it's been a pleasure having you come on the show. When will your book leading with courageous vulnerability. When will it be coming out.
00:57:19.200 --> 00:57:23.310 J. Mathias Bennett: I'll be coming out by, you know, th this year this year.
00:57:23.310 --> 00:57:29.469 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: By the end of this year. Alright, great! And it will be on Amazon and all the major booksellers.
00:57:29.470 --> 00:57:34.170 J. Mathias Bennett: I'll I'll make sure that it's that's there, and all the major bookstallers. Yep.
00:57:34.170 --> 00:57:44.379 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Alright, great, great if people want to learn more about you, get in touch with you, where would they go online to find you? How would they get in touch with you?
00:57:44.550 --> 00:57:55.399 J. Mathias Bennett: Sure. So I'm basically available on all the socials. If you look up J. Matthias Bennett also. You can find me on my website at Mathias Co.
00:57:56.070 --> 00:57:57.730 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Alright, beautiful
00:57:57.750 --> 00:58:10.049 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Mathias! Thank you so much for coming on the show, taking time out of your busy day to be here getting up early, I know in Hawaii. Just be real early out there. So thank you so much. I really appreciate it.
00:58:10.550 --> 00:58:12.519 J. Mathias Bennett: Thank you. Appreciate it, Sam.
00:58:12.810 --> 00:58:35.619 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Alright, and of course, thank you, my loyal listeners, especially people like Harris, who are posting comments throughout the show. Thank you so much for tuning in each week. Without you there is no show. I really appreciate it. Don't forget. Immediately following my show is Dr. Richard Lewis Miller, with his show mind, body, health, and politics, and follow later today with Frank Harrison, show Frank about health.
00:58:35.710 --> 00:58:37.720 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And, oh, did I mention?
00:58:37.820 --> 00:58:39.180 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: I might not have
00:58:39.240 --> 00:59:08.010 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: but one of our honored alumni is coming back to talk radio Elizabeth trip is returning with her. Show. Nourish your soul on Tuesday evenings at 7 pm. Right after the happy spot. So please make sure you tune in Tuesdays at 7 pm. Starting next week, starting July 30, th and we'll have more new shows coming on board soon, so thank you all for tuning in. Take care we will talk to you all next week.
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