[NEW EPISODE] Spherical Luminosity

‍EPISODE SUMMARY:

This week, on The Conscious Consultant Hour, Sam is pleased to welcome International Transformational Speaker, Writer, and Healer, Karen Cheong.

Karen has worked with thousands of people worldwide as a champion for self-empowerment. After a health crisis in her early 20s catalyzed her spiritual journey, she was driven by curiosity to explore the mystical and energetic systems that govern our experience—of ourselves, of others, and of life itself.

For over 25 years she integrated and applied deep inner work and learnings from some of the top names in the personal development space, as well as some of the more esoteric spiritual teachers, to her successful real estate business in San Francisco, California.

Despite Karen’s outwardly successful life, she felt a void within. That's when she discovered "frequency work," a practice that helped her release unconscious blocks and transform her life. Through this process, she experienced a profound ego-death during a 9-hour meditation, reconnecting with the interconnectedness of all things. This pivotal experience enabled her to perceive and effect change at the frequency level, the underlying vibration that shapes our reality. 

Today, she guides others to unlock the true richness of life, empowering them to become intentional co-creators of their reality and establish a profound connection with the Divine within. By offering step-by-step tools for self-realization and releasing distortion patterns at the frequency level, her clients can rewrite their spiritual blueprint and embrace the abundance of the present moment. With this newfound awareness of their infinite consciousness, they can finally recognize and live their inherent brilliance.

Tune in and share your questions and comments about energy healing on our YouTube livestream or on our Facebook page. 

www.SphericalLuminosity.com

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Show Notes

Segment  1

Sam reads a section from his book Everyday Awakening entitled Not Giving The Answer Allows People To Grow And Trust Themselves. Sam tells us what inspired him to write this section and how he had to learn to take his advice. He explains how a mentor or teacher benefits from not telling people what to do. Providing the answer only creates dependency. Guiding someone and teaching someone how to trust themselves allows people to make their own decisions confidently. Sam welcomes his guest, owner of Skyview Coaching and author of The Gift of Shift, Ann Papayoti. Ann tells Sam what brought her to Coaching and how she got started.

Segment 2

Ann has been coaching professionally since 2015. Since the pandemic, we’ve all dealt with some loss. Sam asks Ann how she copes with a loss. She says she learned how to be more resilient after each setback. She would take responsibility for how she wanted to experience her life and gain control over the situation. Ann adds darkness is inevitable, but choosing to look at the positive brings a better outcome. Sam and Ann discuss the power of choice and how it is in all of us. Sam mentions a study he’s read about where the neural pathways close down when the brain is under stress, making it hard to see different choices and options right before you. It’s not about changing the circumstances but instead changing your perspective on the matter so you can experience it differently.

Segment 3

Ann tells Sam where she got the title of her book, The Gift To Shift. She explains that it’s the gift of the mindset shift which means changing your perspective. Ann shares personal stories in her book that gives the readers an inside look at how she coped with loss and grief. She discusses what to expect from the chapters and how there are some uplifting stories that she shares too. Ann shares some of her challenges with her clients getting them to make a mindset shift. Her message that she wants people to know is that there is always something good to come. We have to look up to see it. Sam and Ann discuss how people create an identity around pain and loss. They also explain how time is valuable in any healing process.

Segment 4

Ann talks about a chapter from her book entitled The Gift of Jomo. Jomo is an acronym for the joy of missing out. Since the pandemic, Ann has found that it's been more about a sense of being rather than doing. Some people have shifted and are reinventing themselves. Others have retreated into themselves. If you want to learn more about Ann Papayoti, you can fund her on social media or on her website, Skyview coaching.

Transcript

00:00:45.948 --> 00:00:59.350 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Good afternoon, my conscious co-creators. Good morning. Good evening. Wherever you're tuning in from welcome to that conscious, consultant hour awakening humid humanity. I am very, very pleased

00:00:59.960 --> 00:01:23.086 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: that you are all here with me today. We've got another wonderful show in store for you today. I got a fascinating guest who I'm looking to bring on in just a moment. But of course we start off, as we always do, with our blog post from a couple of years ago, just kinda taking these in order. And

00:01:23.480 --> 00:01:27.549 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and so let let's get into this because I really want to bring her on quickly.

00:01:27.570 --> 00:01:30.289 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Today's blog post is entitled.

00:01:30.530 --> 00:01:33.910 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: when we are present to our intention.

00:01:34.200 --> 00:01:36.100 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: opportunities abound.

00:01:36.880 --> 00:01:39.799 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: there is always opportunity around us

00:01:40.040 --> 00:01:46.160 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: may not seem like it at times, or it may seem like. There are too many opportunities.

00:01:46.690 --> 00:01:49.030 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Yet neither is really the case

00:01:49.810 --> 00:01:57.050 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: when we are not seeing much opportunity. It can be because we don't have the eyes to see it.

00:01:57.270 --> 00:02:03.949 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: We are so focused on our own scarcity that we can't imagine a different way of doing something

00:02:04.310 --> 00:02:09.610 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: such as when we get laid off when we feel there are no jobs for people with our skills.

00:02:09.810 --> 00:02:12.899 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Perhaps there are other kinds of jobs we can do.

00:02:13.090 --> 00:02:19.039 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Maybe we can find a way to start a business instead of looking for another job.

00:02:20.080 --> 00:02:25.670 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Even when times are bad and the economy is depressed. There's still people who make money.

00:02:26.230 --> 00:02:33.289 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: We just have to look at our situation with different eyes to see where the opportunity might lie.

00:02:33.860 --> 00:02:40.749 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: If we are experiencing the opposite challenge, where there's too much opportunity is coming our way

00:02:40.840 --> 00:02:44.899 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: then we were also not seeing things clearly.

00:02:45.490 --> 00:02:49.980 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: for opportunity is only real opportunity.

00:02:50.030 --> 00:02:54.880 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: if it truly aligns and resonates with us, and what we are doing

00:02:55.390 --> 00:02:58.119 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: otherwise it is a distraction.

00:02:58.810 --> 00:03:02.230 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: for in order for us to truly thrive.

00:03:02.280 --> 00:03:07.340 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: we must have one overarching intention for our life.

00:03:08.700 --> 00:03:12.410 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: that one intention may have many different arms.

00:03:12.540 --> 00:03:16.019 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: yet they will all be related in some way.

00:03:16.580 --> 00:03:22.699 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: not in a way that you have to contort your thinking to make them all align.

00:03:23.170 --> 00:03:28.499 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: not in a way, but in a way that comes naturally, organically.

00:03:28.580 --> 00:03:31.770 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: that anyone outside of you can see.

00:03:32.650 --> 00:03:38.340 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: for when our eyes are clear, and we are aligned with our intention.

00:03:38.530 --> 00:03:41.240 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: It is obvious to everyone.

00:03:42.090 --> 00:03:46.000 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: for opportunity is not really about making money.

00:03:46.730 --> 00:03:51.190 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Opportunity is about expressing ourselves through our work.

00:03:52.160 --> 00:03:57.799 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: It is about bringing our focus and our presence to a situation

00:03:58.000 --> 00:04:01.069 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and finding a way to be of served.

00:04:02.120 --> 00:04:05.270 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: So if we do not see enough opportunity.

00:04:05.390 --> 00:04:10.800 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Perhaps we are not being truly present to the opportunities in front of us

00:04:10.910 --> 00:04:12.400 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: to be in service

00:04:13.030 --> 00:04:16.529 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: if we see too much opportunity in front of us.

00:04:16.579 --> 00:04:23.290 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Perhaps we are not being truly present to our intention of how we wish to be in service

00:04:24.380 --> 00:04:25.840 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: either way

00:04:25.900 --> 00:04:27.449 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: opportunity abound.

00:04:29.080 --> 00:04:31.970 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: So how do you feel about opportunity.

00:04:32.390 --> 00:04:34.169 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Do you have too much.

00:04:34.530 --> 00:04:35.760 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: too little.

00:04:35.870 --> 00:04:37.469 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: are just the right amount.

00:04:38.950 --> 00:04:43.280 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: So I wrote this blog post a couple of years ago, because

00:04:43.920 --> 00:05:02.150 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: it it kind of came to me. I'm I'm the kind of person I see opportunity everywhere. I I just you know, I learn about something. It's like, Oh, oh, that's that's fascinating, and that's something good that that's something can make money at. Oh, there's another thing. Oh, there's another thing score score as well. So I get. I get easily distracted.

00:05:02.530 --> 00:05:10.140 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And and that's what kind of happened to me a couple of years ago, where I kinda took my eyes off my core business.

00:05:10.880 --> 00:05:13.969 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: because I saw opportunity in another place.

00:05:14.480 --> 00:05:17.619 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And and what happens when we do that

00:05:18.060 --> 00:05:22.980 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: is that our core business suffers because of it. And that's what happened.

00:05:23.900 --> 00:05:29.289 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: But then I realized that the opposite is true, too, that this

00:05:29.780 --> 00:05:37.309 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: th this phenomena of seeing either too much opportunity or too little opportunity, is actually very related.

00:05:39.790 --> 00:05:43.560 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: because when we see too much or too little.

00:05:44.460 --> 00:05:49.439 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: it means that we're not really paying attention to what's

00:05:49.880 --> 00:05:52.840 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: ultimately in alignment with our core

00:05:53.570 --> 00:05:56.590 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: what really makes our heart safe?

00:05:59.170 --> 00:06:02.430 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Because when we're really connected to what

00:06:04.210 --> 00:06:09.460 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: just makes our whole body feel alive when we're engaged with it.

00:06:10.110 --> 00:06:18.030 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: then suddenly, all of these extraneous opportunities don't seem like opportunities at all, because they're kind of taking us away from that core.

00:06:19.250 --> 00:06:23.180 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And when we feel like we don't have enough opportunity in our life.

00:06:23.970 --> 00:06:27.339 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Then when we we focus on our core, then it's like, Oh.

00:06:27.570 --> 00:06:30.679 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: oh, but I can but do this, or I can do that.

00:06:32.290 --> 00:06:40.129 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and especially in the world today. And and there's a lot of disruption going on. There's a lot of

00:06:41.062 --> 00:06:44.859 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: changes happening in the business landscape.

00:06:45.280 --> 00:06:53.990 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and and and especially like after the pandemic, I mean, whole industries got disrupted because of the pandemic and new industries took off.

00:06:57.230 --> 00:07:01.860 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: So if we stay kind of stuck in the way things were in the past.

00:07:02.450 --> 00:07:15.379 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and we just bemoan. Oh, you know. Oh, it! It used to be like this. It used to be so easy. Why is it so hard? Now, then, then, we're not really seeing how things have changed. We're not seeing the new opportunity.

00:07:19.180 --> 00:07:27.989 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: but it's also, you know, to be a little careful that yeah, there's lots of new opportunity. You could go out and learn how to be an AI prompt engineer if you want.

00:07:28.040 --> 00:07:30.980 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: But is that really something that thrills you

00:07:32.050 --> 00:07:35.490 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: now for some people? It will, and that's great, and they should

00:07:35.890 --> 00:07:37.640 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: totally lean into it.

00:07:39.170 --> 00:07:40.840 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: But for other people.

00:07:41.898 --> 00:07:48.160 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Maybe it's not about that. Maybe what calls to them is being a yoga instructor or nutritionist.

00:07:48.550 --> 00:07:55.150 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: or or doing something in daycare. I mean, there are so many different opportunities out there.

00:07:55.570 --> 00:07:58.299 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: It's just about paying attention.

00:07:58.750 --> 00:08:01.369 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: how we want to be in service

00:08:01.670 --> 00:08:04.650 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and where there are needs today

00:08:04.900 --> 00:08:06.680 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: in today's environment.

00:08:08.790 --> 00:08:14.519 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: So life is always changing, and and opportunities are always abounding.

00:08:14.840 --> 00:08:18.800 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: But it's finding the right opportunities that speak to us.

00:08:20.900 --> 00:08:24.310 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And and it's so funny. Cause I I just spoke to somebody

00:08:24.828 --> 00:08:39.560 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: earlier this week who just got laid off from their position like couple of months ago. And and they were like, you know, I'm taking this opportunity to start a a, a coaching business and see if I can really, you know, make a living at it. I'm like congratulations.

00:08:39.780 --> 00:08:49.469 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: cause I just know when someone gets laid off from a job. It means you're supposed to leave there, and you just didn't want to leave. And the universe is kind of kicking you out and saying, Okay, it's time for you to go on to the next thing.

00:08:51.680 --> 00:08:54.260 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: so I know it can be

00:08:54.280 --> 00:09:00.040 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: tough when you're used to a steady paycheck. And suddenly, you know, it's very unsteady.

00:09:00.650 --> 00:09:05.640 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: I know when you have responsibilities, especially it can be very disconcerting.

00:09:09.880 --> 00:09:14.759 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and if we can learn to sort of take some of that pressure off of ourselves.

00:09:15.310 --> 00:09:21.240 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: then we can open up and we can see and be more creative with with what's around us

00:09:24.190 --> 00:09:29.440 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: there, there's no shortage of opportunity. There's only a shortage of imagination.

00:09:30.470 --> 00:09:31.340 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: so

00:09:31.570 --> 00:09:51.860 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: I hope this helps. I don't know if this speaks to you or not. But this is my blog post again. I've just taken them in order. And the title of this one again was when we are present to our intention. Opportunities abound, and you can always find my blog at talk radio, Nyc slash blog as well as on my

00:09:52.340 --> 00:10:08.210 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: personal branded website, the conscious consultant.com, and I hope you enjoyed it. And now it is my pleasure to welcome to the show international, transformational speaker, writer, and healer. Karen Chung

00:10:08.450 --> 00:10:13.839 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Karen has worked with thousands of people worldwide as a champion for self-empowerment

00:10:14.700 --> 00:10:19.530 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: after a health crisis in her early twenties catalyzed her spiritual journey.

00:10:19.690 --> 00:10:25.770 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: She was driven by curiosity to explore the mystical and energetic systems that govern our experience

00:10:26.160 --> 00:10:27.620 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: of ourselves.

00:10:28.280 --> 00:10:30.649 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: of others, and of life itself.

00:10:31.690 --> 00:10:47.100 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: For over 25 years she has integrated and applied deep inner work and learnings from some of the top names in the personal development space, as well as some of the more esoteric spiritual teachers to her successful real estate business in San Francisco.

00:10:47.170 --> 00:10:56.969 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: So she's not only spiritual, she's grounded to. Despite Karen's outwardly successful life, she felt a void within. That's when she discovered frequency work.

00:10:57.150 --> 00:11:02.029 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: a practice that helped her release unconscious blocks and transform her life.

00:11:02.560 --> 00:11:09.829 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Through this process she experienced a profound ego death during a 9 h. Meditation, 9 h

00:11:09.900 --> 00:11:13.330 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: reconnecting with the interconnectedness of all things.

00:11:13.340 --> 00:11:26.429 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: This pivotal experience enabled her to perceive and effect change at the frequency level, the underlying vibration which shapes our reality. Welcome to the conscious consultant or Karen.

00:11:28.410 --> 00:11:29.549 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Nope can't hear you.

00:11:29.550 --> 00:11:30.940 Karen Cheong: Excited to be here.

00:11:30.940 --> 00:11:33.099 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: There you are, your volume to Little Love.

00:11:33.100 --> 00:11:37.800 Karen Cheong: Here I am again. Well, thank you so much for having me on your show, Sam.

00:11:38.200 --> 00:11:45.880 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: You're quite welcome. You're quite welcome, though. I'm just gonna ask if there's a way for you to boost your volume a little bit. You're a little bit low on the volume.

00:11:45.880 --> 00:11:47.209 Karen Cheong: Ok, how is that?

00:11:47.210 --> 00:11:48.590 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: That's better. There you go. Just.

00:11:48.820 --> 00:11:50.139 Karen Cheong: Fantastic. Thank you.

00:11:50.472 --> 00:11:56.447 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: So, Karen, I'm I'm I'm curious. you know, I've had many people on my show who

00:11:56.840 --> 00:12:02.069 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: their spiritual journey sort of got started because of some crisis in their life.

00:12:02.110 --> 00:12:05.400 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: But I'm just curious like before that point.

00:12:05.600 --> 00:12:16.890 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Did you have any leanings towards sort of you know mystical stuff? Was there anything unusual or unexplainable in your life? Or was this really something that just

00:12:16.980 --> 00:12:21.859 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: like was was like just out of the blue kind of transformed for you.

00:12:22.170 --> 00:12:44.810 Karen Cheong: Oh, well, I would say that I was a very normal kid, so I mean I had intuition, but I didn't really know what it was, and I could perceive certain things, but I was told it was my imagination, so I just thought it was my imagination. And then, when my health crisis happened. I had this really severely debilitating

00:12:44.840 --> 00:13:07.129 Karen Cheong: eczema that was everywhere all over my body kept me from sleeping because I was up all night scratching. That was the crisis that started my spiritual journey, and I think many people who come to see me also aren't necessarily looking for a spiritual journey. They're looking to resolve something horrible in their lives, and they're kind of like taking to their knees by life. And they think to themselves, I need another way.

00:13:07.130 --> 00:13:20.159 Karen Cheong: And for me. That's what happened. So because I was so sick, I had to find another way. And at that point I actually was living in New York City, which I think is your hometown, and loved it.

00:13:20.540 --> 00:13:50.320 Karen Cheong: I needed to actually take myself, or at least my husband, at the time, because I wasn't able to. I hadn't been sleeping for months, and was, you know, at this point, degrading emotionally, really severely. And so he was just like, Okay, there's an acupuncturist who saved your aunt from cancer. He lives in the prairies in Canada. We're sending you to him because I don't know what else to do, because it seems very likely that you're probably gonna kill yourself. And he was right. And he was really terrified. And so off I went, and in 5 weeks I went from this very

00:13:51.510 --> 00:13:54.339 Karen Cheong: suicidal hot mess to

00:13:54.350 --> 00:13:58.519 Karen Cheong: pretty much what I look like now. And I thought to myself.

00:13:58.550 --> 00:14:18.699 Karen Cheong: How is this possible that in 5 weeks I've gone from that to this. What else is there beyond the physical that I can't see that governs all of this? And so that was the prompting for my journey. You know we all sort of start whenever we start, and then, you know, post that time. That question remains like what is in the unseen that

00:14:18.700 --> 00:14:32.129 Karen Cheong: creates what we think is solid and real. And that's what prompted my exploration into not only personal development, which is like a very traditional sort of forum that most people go into, but also these more esoteric

00:14:32.140 --> 00:14:33.170 Karen Cheong: practices.

00:14:33.390 --> 00:14:33.970 Karen Cheong: And

00:14:35.020 --> 00:14:52.310 Karen Cheong: because I am who I am. I'm always the type of person who likes to see how things work. So I'm not just going to learn it. I kind of want to see if it's going to change anything, because I just spent all this money doing that. So let's see if I can actually change the way my life is, or how I feel about it. And in our real estate practice. It was like the perfect

00:14:52.520 --> 00:15:17.250 Karen Cheong: form to do that, because it was our practice. So I would just implement like a madwoman. And it was, and I would watch what happened. But what happened in the real estate practice is that even though we were doing outwardly really well, like, if you looked at our lives, we were doing amazing. We had a referral based business. We're in the top 1% of producers in San Francisco. We had a lot of money in our bank account. We had clients who loved us.

00:15:17.290 --> 00:15:33.150 Karen Cheong: We're in a very, you know. Chris and I have been married for like 30 years now. Happily so. So you know, everything on the outside looks like glorious and amazing. But for me, what was happening was I just kept hitting this wall of scarcity. And it didn't matter how much we had in our bank account, because we had a lot in there.

00:15:33.370 --> 00:15:44.960 Karen Cheong: I just felt like not enough all the time, and so I would just drive our team into over-production. And myself.

00:15:45.230 --> 00:15:46.920 Karen Cheong: I I

00:15:47.200 --> 00:16:00.139 Karen Cheong: I asked, what else am I missing? And so that is when it's funny how the universe answers, because after a pivotal journey, what happened was, I found frequency work, and that's when everything changed.

00:16:00.540 --> 00:16:08.101 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Cool, cool, cool, alright. Let's hold it there for a moment. We're gonna take a quick break, but when we come back

00:16:08.670 --> 00:16:14.519 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: I'm I'm curious about what sort of drove that scarcity, consciousness.

00:16:14.650 --> 00:16:22.359 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and then like how you found the frequency work and and like, how did that shift for you

00:16:22.400 --> 00:16:35.969 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: cause. I think that's something that that's very common. And you know I totally relate to your story, because I always say I'm a nice Jewish boy from the Bronx. I'm a really normal guy, you know. I how did I get into all this crazy stuff? Well, you know, Mike just tends to lead us right.

00:16:35.970 --> 00:16:36.730 Karen Cheong: Yeah, exactly.

00:16:37.078 --> 00:17:00.770 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Alright excellent, Karen, so everybody, please stay tuned. You're listening to the conscious, consultant hour awakening humanity. We do this every Thursday 12 noon to one Pm, Eastern time, right here on top radio, dot, Nyc and all over social media. We're in Facebook and and Linkedin and Youtube and Twitter and twitch, and we will be right back with my guest, Karen Chung, in just a moment.

00:19:17.170 --> 00:19:36.493 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And welcome back to the conscious consultant hour awakening humanity. We're speaking this hour with Karen Chung. A a healer a transformational speaker and someone with a very fascinating story. So, Karen,

00:19:37.900 --> 00:19:47.980 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: you you you were talking about how you were sort of applying stuff to your real estate business, when you noticed, was this sort of scarcity modality that you were stuck in.

00:19:49.520 --> 00:19:54.240 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: What I mean. You were already successful. So what was causing that scarcity

00:19:54.600 --> 00:19:56.219 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: energy around you.

00:19:56.600 --> 00:20:06.640 Karen Cheong: Yeah. So I'm of Chinese descent. So you said, you're a nice Jewish boy from the Bronx. We have things in common.

00:20:06.640 --> 00:20:08.170 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Lot a lot of my wife.

00:20:08.170 --> 00:20:32.920 Karen Cheong: Well, there you go. So you know, yeah. So within a lot of Asian cultures, scarcity patterns are really rife. And I didn't know this at the time I do now, but for me everything is vibrating, as your audience knows, since they are listening to you, and there are things that I call distortion patterns which exist at the level of frequency, which block you from

00:20:32.920 --> 00:20:42.239 Karen Cheong: having a different experience, because they hold you at a certain level of vibration or a certain level of resonance. So you kind of always hit the same wall. You know what I mean. So it doesn't really matter

00:20:42.860 --> 00:21:02.000 Karen Cheong: how well you're doing. It's like you hit a ceiling. You know what I mean. So whether it's a relationship, and you're looking for like the right person. But you always end up with the same kind of jerk, even though it's like a different kind of person. All your friends are like, what's happening. You're such a nice person. You're attractive, you're successful. But you always end up with this kind of

00:21:02.560 --> 00:21:03.650 Karen Cheong: person.

00:21:03.840 --> 00:21:22.940 Karen Cheong: It's because you're running these distortion patterns that are keeping you from experiencing something different. Right? So you are experiencing that. And so for me, my distortion patterns that were really strong through my lineage had to do with scarcity and fear. Those were my biggest biggest challenges, so it didn't really matter what was around me in terms of

00:21:23.170 --> 00:21:30.370 Karen Cheong: like what was in my bank account. The house we lived in, because those were very present for me it was as if I had nothing.

00:21:30.370 --> 00:21:57.989 Karen Cheong: Does that make sense? So, even though the outer reality looked like something I felt internally like we didn't have enough, or that it was going to go away very quickly, or that we needed to save for years in advance, and that type of thing like our cushion was never big enough for me, because I ran this fear pattern that I don't know. Something terrible was going to happen, and all our money would somehow evaporate. I don't know exactly what the thinking was. It wasn't rational, it was just an emotion.

00:21:57.990 --> 00:22:01.370 Karen Cheong: and that was because of these distortion patterns that I was running, and it was only

00:22:01.530 --> 00:22:05.280 Karen Cheong: when I cleared them that I started to

00:22:05.550 --> 00:22:15.409 Karen Cheong: not freak out all the time. So my my tell, like this is what I used to do behaviorally is I used to spreadsheet all the time, and what I would do is, I would spreadsheet or cushion.

00:22:15.410 --> 00:22:16.430 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: The thing.

00:22:16.430 --> 00:22:30.289 Karen Cheong: I would do obsessively, so it would always be up on my screen somewhere, and then I would check it out and make sure that we were doing Ok. And all that sort of stuff. But it didn't matter how much cushion we had. It never felt like we quite had enough.

00:22:30.590 --> 00:22:36.759 Karen Cheong: What happened, though what was amazing is, as I released my distortion patterns through frequency work, I

00:22:36.780 --> 00:22:43.059 Karen Cheong: stopped spreadsheeting, but I didn't even really notice it. Because what happens is, you just become a higher vibrating version of yourself.

00:22:43.090 --> 00:23:09.859 Karen Cheong: And so, as a result, what you feel and what you think and what you do changes because who you are changes. And I remember one day my husband, Chris said to me, Have you noticed that you haven't spread spreadsheet it for like weeks? And I said, Oh, my God, you're right like I didn't even I didn't even notice that it stopped that behavior. I felt better, but I didn't really notice that one particular thing, and I thought that that was amazing. And so that was just

00:23:09.900 --> 00:23:12.889 Karen Cheong: the beginning, really, of this journey. And so

00:23:13.120 --> 00:23:13.939 Karen Cheong: from noon, so.

00:23:13.940 --> 00:23:18.200 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: How did you discover the frequency work that helped you to unwind that.

00:23:18.470 --> 00:23:22.000 Karen Cheong: Yeah. So it was I had.

00:23:22.290 --> 00:23:27.959 Karen Cheong: So we're going to go into Woollo land here a little, but I think your your listeners are used to it.

00:23:27.960 --> 00:23:31.380 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: We are able to do that as long as there's a thread holding the kite we can find.

00:23:31.380 --> 00:23:38.130 Karen Cheong: Exactly. I think I can do that so essentially. What had happened is that I had

00:23:38.180 --> 00:23:41.130 Karen Cheong: received an image from a friend

00:23:41.160 --> 00:23:59.849 Karen Cheong: who happened to be French, and she said, Hey, there's these sacred pools that a friend of mine just sent me, and for some reason I thought of you, and this is a person I hadn't talked to in a couple months, and she said, I don't know why I thought of you, but I'm just emailing this to you. If it doesn't resonate with you, it doesn't matter to me. I just thought of you. So I'm sending them to you.

00:23:59.990 --> 00:24:21.170 Karen Cheong: And as soon as I was like, Okay, great. So I open. You know, I'm in the middle of my work day. And I open this email. And then in the image, are these pools in the middle of Southern France? I didn't even know where they were, and in this tiny village, and as soon as I saw it I felt all this tingling happening at my spine, and I knew that I had to go. I didn't know why I had to go, Sam. I just knew I had to go, so off I went.

00:24:21.410 --> 00:24:29.309 Karen Cheong: So let's just say I fast forward through that journey which I had my own exploration of at this point

00:24:29.610 --> 00:24:44.059 Karen Cheong: certain mystical experiences which allowed me to enter my heart. Space bore and to refine my understanding of manifestation. This is just on my own personal journey. I didn't go to an event. I didn't do anything. I just went on my personal journey, and then when I came home, I went to go see my acupuncturist

00:24:44.120 --> 00:24:45.070 Karen Cheong: and

00:24:46.100 --> 00:25:15.460 Karen Cheong: at the end of the acupuncture acupuncture session. I was getting up off the bed, and she said to me, Hey, you know I've been thinking about you because I've learned about this new thing. And I was like, Okay, and she said, Have you ever heard of frequency work? And when she said those words. I was turning actually when she said that to me, because I was turning to leave, and it was like time slow down, and I remember, like it was like I could see it was like the matrix, really. And you know, the movie where it's like, everything kind of goes. It just looks.

00:25:15.460 --> 00:25:16.140 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: It, felt.

00:25:16.140 --> 00:25:16.660 Karen Cheong: That.

00:25:16.660 --> 00:25:18.359 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: They call a bullet time, you know.

00:25:18.360 --> 00:25:19.730 Karen Cheong: Yeah. Oh, is that what it is?

00:25:19.730 --> 00:25:21.310 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Yes, bullet time, man.

00:25:21.310 --> 00:25:36.070 Karen Cheong: Bullet. Ok, I didn't know that that's cool. So anyway, that's what it felt like, except there were sells bullets and just me turning around, but it felt very important, and I knew immediately that I had to know what this was

00:25:36.588 --> 00:25:41.739 Karen Cheong: and so when I so I started it, I didn't actually feel that much.

00:25:41.950 --> 00:25:59.310 Karen Cheong: I was like, Okay, but at the end of when I experienced it the 1st time I was like, Okay, well, I didn't feel anything, but I know something has changed. So I just followed that knowingness. And it became this thing where I would listen to it, and I could feel

00:25:59.400 --> 00:26:09.600 Karen Cheong: that somehow things were changing, and I didn't need to understand how exactly. I just knew that they were. And I started to do more of it because I started to feel this sort of like internal

00:26:09.610 --> 00:26:26.239 Karen Cheong: acceleration. Okay? And what I was perceiving at the time. I didn't know this then. But I do now is that my vibration rate was really starting to rise very quickly, and I was starting to cast off these lineage distortion patterns that had held me in a certain resonance for so long, even though I kept trying to like Pop above that resonance level.

00:26:26.240 --> 00:26:46.270 Karen Cheong: And so my world started to change just in terms of how I 1st how I felt, which was the most important thing at the time, because again the outer shell of my life looked pretty fabulous, but how I felt internally was pretty horrible. And so that's what started to change in a way that was faster and more complete than anything I tried before.

00:26:47.190 --> 00:26:48.060 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Wow!

00:26:48.715 --> 00:26:51.450 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Cool. So really sort of almost

00:26:51.560 --> 00:26:55.399 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: guided by the life or by the universe. Kind of taking

00:26:55.470 --> 00:27:06.149 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: a around this way, which is what what I say all the time about my own personal path that you know the universe kind of nudged me back onto this spiritual path. I I was not looking for this stuff.

00:27:06.410 --> 00:27:10.010 Karen Cheong: Yeah, exactly. I just wanted to feel better.

00:27:10.010 --> 00:27:10.919 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Give me a.

00:27:10.920 --> 00:27:12.510 Karen Cheong: Yes. Yeah.

00:27:12.510 --> 00:27:19.439 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Yes, and that's the way a lot of people kind of get on this path is, we just want to feel better. We're just struggling. We're in pain or

00:27:19.960 --> 00:27:24.639 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: dealing with some trauma or something, and we just want to feel better. And then.

00:27:24.650 --> 00:27:28.710 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: in the process of finding that thing that makes us feel better.

00:27:29.263 --> 00:27:31.610 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: It opens us up to a much bigger world, doesn't it?

00:27:31.610 --> 00:27:32.460 Karen Cheong: Absolutely.

00:27:33.150 --> 00:27:39.389 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Now, when you started to to find this frequency work and and work with it. And while you were going through all this stuff.

00:27:39.854 --> 00:27:49.879 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: what was your family thinking of all this? Where are your friends like, I mean, were people supportive because they saw the positive change you or they were like. Oh, we think Karen's lost it. She's off the deep end now.

00:27:50.850 --> 00:28:14.739 Karen Cheong: Right. So like I said I had been before then on a seeking path for about like 20 plus years. Right? So they're kind of used to me doing weird stuff. So that was a good thing, and what I will say is, luckily my husband, Chris, and I work together, and he was kind of like, what are you doing over there? I'm like, I'm not really sure. But everything started to change, and I started to feel better.

00:28:14.740 --> 00:28:39.259 Karen Cheong: And my business part like. So it was the 2 of us in our practice, and then a business partner. And I said, I really think you guys should give it a try and see how it is, for you know we're lucky in that. We don't really force each other to do anything, but it's like, Hey, this is really making a big change for me. And because I was feeling so much better, and they felt me being different. I wasn't so stressed out. I wasn't always pushing them. They're like, What are you doing over there? And so they gave it a try. And it was pretty

00:28:39.260 --> 00:28:40.919 Karen Cheong: awesome, actually. And

00:28:41.320 --> 00:29:09.739 Karen Cheong: so for me, I have been on such a I'm a growth, oriented person. I'd like it. It's interesting to me like my main purpose is to understand the mystery. That was what it was before I found frequency work. So I was just like, Well, I just want to understand what what that is. And luckily at close to me, people who were also curious about the mystery. So I was supportive. And then, you know, it's funny, because supported by them and my parents and my dad at the time was like 80 something, and my mother was in her mid 70 s.

00:29:09.740 --> 00:29:31.230 Karen Cheong: There was so much change happening within us, meaning myself and Chris. They're like, What are you doing? So at that age they came on the frequency work train, too, and this is even before my abilities came in, I was just doing it to feel better. And so that was amazing. And so, yeah, it just creates a profound shift in

00:29:31.230 --> 00:29:47.450 Karen Cheong: a lot of things from worry, anxiety, scarcity to just feeling, much more of that expansiveness of life. And, as you said, the opportunity, so you mentioned your blog post about opportunity. And so what happened was opportunities started to knock

00:29:47.450 --> 00:30:14.369 Karen Cheong: in ways that I didn't imagine, though I didn't expect those things they just showed up for me in increasing ways, be it small or large, and life really. And I know this sounds a little cliche started to become more magical, because when that synchronicity happens, and when that flow kind of starts to happen for me, who had been so controlling before. Because I'm a successful businesswoman. So I was just like, that's how I get there. I control things.

00:30:14.370 --> 00:30:24.200 Karen Cheong: But what started to happen is that started to unravel. And I found this way that was so much more pleasurable, and so much more magical, and so much more abundant, actually so, that was pretty awesome.

00:30:24.200 --> 00:30:32.060 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Cool cool. So I I do want to get into sort of your your experience, and then

00:30:32.170 --> 00:30:43.610 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: sort of what happened. And then you know how you really kind of dove in with both feed into this world and started actually not just using it for yourself, but helping other people with it.

00:30:44.033 --> 00:30:56.639 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: So we we gotta take our next break. So when we come back, let's talk about this 9 h meditation you did, and and what you experienced, and then sort of you know what? Evolved from that. Okay.

00:30:56.840 --> 00:30:57.720 Karen Cheong: Sounds, great.

00:30:57.720 --> 00:31:07.320 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Awesome. So everybody, please stay tuned. You're listening to the conscious consult now, awakening humanity, and we'll be right back with our guest, Karen Chung in just a moment.

00:33:11.690 --> 00:33:17.029 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And welcome back to the conscious consult now awakening humanity. So, Karen.

00:33:17.170 --> 00:33:27.139 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: so you come back, you you you! You're you're feeling better. You're doing better in your business, your family, seeing all this change in you.

00:33:28.290 --> 00:33:31.300 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: What happened? What was this? This, this, this.

00:33:31.350 --> 00:33:36.169 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: this this experience? You had that kind of blew the doors off everything.

00:33:36.170 --> 00:33:54.729 Karen Cheong: Yeah. So I'm kind of an intense person, right? Just generally speaking. And I was just like, Well, I have a problem. I'd like to solve it. So I just like to release as many distortion patterns as possible so that I can feel better. So I'm kind of intensive that way. And because that was my focus, I just been like clearing, clearing, clearing all these different patterns.

00:33:54.980 --> 00:34:10.149 Karen Cheong: and I was on my way to a meditation retreat that was given in Sedona, and it was a long one, so it was a 12 day meditation, retreat, and so for me to take 12 days out of our business, where I am not contactable, was

00:34:10.210 --> 00:34:19.449 Karen Cheong: near impossible at the time, or at least I felt like it was. It's not necessarily true, but that's how I felt like a lot of business owners, I think.

00:34:19.469 --> 00:34:30.219 Karen Cheong: but I knew that I had to go to this retreat, and I knew that I had to go because I was nervous about it, so meaning like I knew enough about myself that I knew that the more I resisted it

00:34:30.219 --> 00:34:51.710 Karen Cheong: sometimes, as we got closer. That actually is an indication that I really need to go. So I didn't listen to the well. Maybe there was this client that's come up, or this has to happen? Or do you really need to take the 12 days and all that stuff? And who's this teacher? I didn't really know the teacher that. Well, I just knew I had to go. So off I went to Sedona, and then, when I went to the classroom for the 1st time, where it was being taught.

00:34:51.710 --> 00:35:11.569 Karen Cheong: or in the retreat center I knew immediately from, because I had cleared enough of my own patterns, and I had my own sort of sense of things that the field that I was in was energetically unstable. And I was like, Okay, there's a lot of ego mind in this room, and a lot of distortion, and I don't think we're going to be able to do what this teacher is telling us.

00:35:11.570 --> 00:35:19.070 Karen Cheong: So I sat in for the 1st class. And I was like, Yeah, no, pretty sure that's not going to happen. And so I knew that I had to go meditate on my own.

00:35:19.070 --> 00:35:42.910 Karen Cheong: which is kind of a strange thing to do, because a I'm Chinese, and I've just thrown down a couple grand for this thing, and all my grandmothers were like, are you insane that you're not going to the class that you paid all this money for, and take notes like a good student? And so I did something very unusual, and was not a very good Chinese student, and I bailed on the retreat.

00:35:43.280 --> 00:35:47.190 Karen Cheong: and I went into meditation on my own and the.

00:35:47.190 --> 00:35:49.580 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Did you stay there in Sedona when you did this, or.

00:35:49.580 --> 00:36:11.230 Karen Cheong: Stay in Sedona. Yeah, because I was like, Okay, well, I'm here. I have 12 days. Everyone thinks I'm offline. So I'm just going to use this time, because I'm here for some reason that I don't need to understand. The invitation was the retreat. But that's not what I'm really here for? Okay, all right. So I'll just follow and see what happens. So, anyhow, the the meditation retreat, the subject I think of it was.

00:36:11.860 --> 00:36:24.499 Karen Cheong: I think it was called something like something piercing into the absolute or something like this. I don't even remember the name. Exactly. So I thought, Okay, well, I'm just going to do that on my own. I've no idea what that means, but what I'll do is I'll raise my vibrational level and see what happens.

00:36:24.930 --> 00:36:39.630 Karen Cheong: So one day I went into this meditation, and I really thought I was going to be in there, for, you know, like half an hour like, you know, normal meditation or whatever. But that day something was different, and I knew my intention before going into the meditation was like, Okay, can I pierce

00:36:39.640 --> 00:36:45.760 Karen Cheong: into the absolute on my own. Let's see what happens when I raise my vibration like I don't know what's going to happen. Let's find out.

00:36:45.980 --> 00:36:57.250 Karen Cheong: So I didn't know it was going to be 9 h, Sam. But what happened was as I rose in vibrational level, I passed through all these different levels of vibration, so.

00:36:57.520 --> 00:37:26.850 Karen Cheong: as your listeners know everything is vibrating right? And so the rate of vibration determines what that thing is, you know. So if you take water, for example, steam as molecules vibrating really fast, slow vibration down becomes liquid water slow, that vibration down even more, it becomes solid, right? So it's a very basic fundamental of spirituality and understanding of form and matter. But what happened for me is as my vibrational level rose, I could feel myself moving through different layers, so I felt myself moving through layers of

00:37:26.850 --> 00:37:33.409 Karen Cheong: consciousness, really. And then I got to like a ceiling, and I just kind of kept hating my head against it.

00:37:33.410 --> 00:37:33.780 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And.

00:37:33.780 --> 00:37:39.820 Karen Cheong: And I couldn't go any more, and I kept trying to move into it, but it wouldn't happen. And then I realised in that moment that I had to surrender.

00:37:40.080 --> 00:37:42.599 Karen Cheong: and I had just wonder who I thought I was.

00:37:42.600 --> 00:37:42.980 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Yeah, we.

00:37:42.980 --> 00:38:04.730 Karen Cheong: Sounds. I'm saying it very casually, like, Oh, just the rendor who I thought I was. But if you're actually doing that, it's terrifying, because that means to me like at that time. That means all the people I love. It means who I think I am. It means what I do for my living. It means all these things for us as humans. And I cried, and I was terrified.

00:38:04.800 --> 00:38:06.440 Karen Cheong: and it took me a little bit.

00:38:06.730 --> 00:38:12.280 Karen Cheong: And finally I kind of went into an effort moment where I was just like, Ok.

00:38:12.730 --> 00:38:18.470 Karen Cheong: I'm just going to do it. I, for the 1st time truly in my life as a Chinese person

00:38:18.600 --> 00:38:20.159 Karen Cheong: surrender like for real.

00:38:20.520 --> 00:38:24.790 Karen Cheong: And it's not to get something. I just do it. And I'm going to see what happens.

00:38:25.120 --> 00:38:27.250 Karen Cheong: And so

00:38:27.410 --> 00:38:47.269 Karen Cheong: and I really it was one of the most scary things I've ever done in my life. Surrender sounds easy, but it's not for someone who was like me. It was one of the hardest things I've ever done. And what happened is this huge expansion? Okay? And all of a sudden I felt everythingness and everything was part of me.

00:38:47.340 --> 00:38:49.509 Karen Cheong: and when I breathe I breathe the everything.

00:38:49.580 --> 00:38:51.840 Karen Cheong: and there was really

00:38:52.080 --> 00:38:55.950 Karen Cheong: not really Karen, and everything was vibrating.

00:38:56.150 --> 00:39:01.140 Karen Cheong: and I could distinguish what all the vibrations were. I knew what everything was

00:39:01.510 --> 00:39:05.179 Karen Cheong: I stopped seeking. I'd been seeking for, like

00:39:05.260 --> 00:39:06.950 Karen Cheong: I don't know, like I said 20

00:39:06.980 --> 00:39:11.600 Karen Cheong: 5 plus years at that point. But all of a sudden I didn't need anything anymore.

00:39:11.710 --> 00:39:12.790 Karen Cheong: I was just like.

00:39:13.170 --> 00:39:18.979 Karen Cheong: it's all it's complete. I'm complete, it's complete. Everything is like I just was in it.

00:39:19.580 --> 00:39:28.329 Karen Cheong: and at some point, because I could distinguish frequencies. And I understood that I mean, I'm saying understood as if I understood with my mind. I didn't. I just knew

00:39:29.050 --> 00:39:33.649 Karen Cheong: what happened eventually is that I, my residence, dropped.

00:39:33.880 --> 00:39:38.939 Karen Cheong: and I came back into my body and my awareness of myself in this little room in Sedona

00:39:39.050 --> 00:39:43.650 Karen Cheong: I noticed that the light was different, and I looked at the clock, and it had been 9 h.

00:39:43.970 --> 00:39:49.909 Karen Cheong: and I was like Whoa. And so after that meditation everything changed. Because.

00:39:49.950 --> 00:40:02.060 Karen Cheong: 1st of all, I could perceive the illusion. So everything I was like everything. Is this really thin skin of this illusion, which is amazing and wonderful and glorious and intricate, and so divinely orchestrated.

00:40:02.130 --> 00:40:22.789 Karen Cheong: And it was like, you know, again, like we're referencing the matrix for some reason a lot today, but you know he can put his hands through something, you know. It's like he puts his hand through the mirror or whatever, and was like it, kind of felt like that I was like, I can perceive, beyond the illusion. I can perceive the illusion, and I can perceive it was the wildest thing. So I'd walk around like hike around in Sedona, perceiving the illusion

00:40:23.230 --> 00:40:35.290 Karen Cheong: like playing with raising my resonance so that I could do different things. And then, oddly, Sam, this is how the universe works. Kind of kicks you in the butt. Sometimes. This friend who I hadn't seen in years

00:40:35.320 --> 00:40:36.909 Karen Cheong: before I went to Sedona

00:40:37.425 --> 00:40:40.030 Karen Cheong: I had happened to have lunch with her.

00:40:40.110 --> 00:40:53.250 Karen Cheong: and she was like and I said to her, I didn't even see each other again, and I don't know why. And she's like, Well, I'm going. I'm leaving for Sedona tomorrow. I'm like, Oh, that's so weird. I'm leaving it about a week, and it turned out we were overlapping for 12 h in Sedona.

00:40:53.350 --> 00:41:08.289 Karen Cheong: So she came to see me. Okay, this is very weird how this happened so I wasn't planning to see anyone as the donor other than the people in their treat that I didn't go to. She shows up in my little studio apartment, Airbnb, and we start talking, and I'm looking at her. She's like

00:41:08.330 --> 00:41:13.300 Karen Cheong: she's telling me about some problems she's having, and I'm like, do you need help with that. And she's like.

00:41:13.430 --> 00:41:24.729 Karen Cheong: sure. And I said, Okay, well, I'm just going to explain to you what's happening. And I'm going to just release that for you. And she kind of looked at me. And because we have this history together, where we met in like in a spiritual context, she was like, Okay.

00:41:24.810 --> 00:41:43.239 Karen Cheong: and so I did. And she was the 1st person I ever worked on. And it was funny, because a week later, all of a sudden her friends started texting me. They're like, Hey, I'm friends with So-and-so. You worked with her in Sedona like, who are you people? I didn't ask for them.

00:41:43.240 --> 00:41:43.620 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Right.

00:41:43.620 --> 00:41:51.280 Karen Cheong: She just started talking to her friends. And they started calling me basically. And that's how it all began. I did not. Sam put out a shingle.

00:41:51.280 --> 00:41:51.600 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: I was.

00:41:51.600 --> 00:41:57.119 Karen Cheong: Not planning for them to text me. But that's how it began. Honestly, I didn't exactly

00:41:57.190 --> 00:41:58.620 Karen Cheong: try. That's what happened.

00:41:58.620 --> 00:42:00.040 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Many years ago. Was this.

00:42:01.315 --> 00:42:10.189 Karen Cheong: This was in 2,000. 0, my gosh! I don't remember time very well. 18, I would say 2,018. Yeah.

00:42:10.593 --> 00:42:11.399 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Beginning of.

00:42:11.400 --> 00:42:12.320 Karen Cheong: Doesn't do.

00:42:12.660 --> 00:42:14.650 Karen Cheong: Yeah. Feels like ages ago, but.

00:42:14.650 --> 00:42:16.909 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Yeah, like another lifetime. Right?

00:42:16.910 --> 00:42:19.910 Karen Cheong: Yeah, yeah, many lifetimes. Ago. Yeah.

00:42:19.910 --> 00:42:23.750 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Yes, I know that feeling. Well. Wow! So

00:42:25.490 --> 00:42:31.409 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: so, even though you had learned about this frequency stuff when you worked with her.

00:42:32.115 --> 00:42:36.999 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: this wasn't based on that frequency work. It was just sort of the inspiration from

00:42:37.340 --> 00:42:40.620 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: what you had just experienced in this meditation, or was it.

00:42:40.620 --> 00:42:41.020 Karen Cheong: Yeah.

00:42:41.460 --> 00:42:42.340 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Frequency work.

00:42:42.340 --> 00:42:52.150 Karen Cheong: Yeah, so frequency work is kind of this loose term, and it's not something that's taunt. You have to be of a high enough resonance in order to be able to perceive at the level of frequency. So let me back up a bit.

00:42:52.470 --> 00:42:53.460 Karen Cheong: So

00:42:53.590 --> 00:43:04.109 Karen Cheong: like I mentioned about water right? It has to do with like the rate of vibration. So if you take the rate of vibration, if you take that same example right, and you extrapolate to a very, very high, really resonating consciousness.

00:43:04.130 --> 00:43:09.090 Karen Cheong: which is whatever you want to call it, pure source, the divine, the oneness whatever.

00:43:09.160 --> 00:43:27.949 Karen Cheong: in order to have something other than the oneness. There needs to be a drop in vibration so meaning for the oneness to be aware of something of itself as separate. There needs to be a drop in vibration. So at that point frequencies are created, and when the vibration of that slows down it creates energy, and when the vibration of that slows down even more, it creates form or matter, or even like your thoughts and emotions.

00:43:27.950 --> 00:43:50.379 Karen Cheong: So to me everything starts the level of frequency. We always think that we have to do things on the physical level and things on the spirit level will change. It's actually the inverse. The higher level, vibrating order is the thing that dictates everything. So if you change things at the level of frequency, the physical will be organized around it. You know. It's like, you know that famous quote? I can't remember who said it. Maybe it's attributed to Einstein, but I don't know if it's true. It's like you can't solve the problem at the same

00:43:50.683 --> 00:44:17.719 Karen Cheong: thinking that that it originated from, or something like this. Yeah. So he's talking about vibration. And so, in order to be able to perceive at the level of frequencies, and be able to change things at the level frequency you have to be resonating high enough. And so, for what happened to me was I'd been receiving frequency work. And then what happened is, my vibration got high enough that in that meditation that I was able to recognize that I'm able to make change at that level.

00:44:17.970 --> 00:44:22.279 Karen Cheong: Okay, so that's essentially what happened. And so and I'm not like

00:44:22.760 --> 00:44:43.840 Karen Cheong: particularly special. We can all do this. It's just a matter of your resonance. Right? So how high is your resonance? And when you're and because to me that dictates everything from what your life looks like what you get to experience, how much abundance you have, how much change you can experience. All that stuff is very dependent on how high your residence is, so that to me is the baseline of everything.

00:44:44.480 --> 00:44:49.119 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Well, well, yeah, yeah, totally get it totally get it.

00:44:49.160 --> 00:44:50.230 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: So

00:44:50.250 --> 00:44:54.440 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: so these people just started showing up, you start working on them.

00:44:54.770 --> 00:45:02.490 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: When did you like make the conscious decision of like? Oh, I guess I should. I can really help people with this. I should just start doing this more.

00:45:03.330 --> 00:45:21.209 Karen Cheong: When I couldn't manage them in my regular scheduling. I was like, I don't have time to schedule you, and I have my real estate business, and I can't do it. So I guess I'd better throw up a scheduler and see what happens. So that started, I created my 1st website in April of 2018. And that's when it began. Basically.

00:45:21.210 --> 00:45:22.640 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And and

00:45:22.660 --> 00:45:27.490 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: did it take over the real estate business like, did you stop doing real stuff, or you're still doing both.

00:45:27.490 --> 00:45:53.349 Karen Cheong: Oh, no, no, no, not doing! No, no, no, definitely not doing both. So we felt the calling to move to Hawaii in 2,019, and you know I was doing part time for a little bit, because I was just like I have this real estate practice. I don't need to. It was very hard. Actually, I was working really long hours, and I finally, in 2,019, when we moved to Hawaii, Chris and I were like, Okay, we're giving ourselves a year. We're taking a quote unquote sabbatical from a real estate business.

00:45:53.880 --> 00:45:57.419 Karen Cheong: And we are going to give it a shot. So we move to Hawaii.

00:45:57.780 --> 00:46:03.599 Karen Cheong: and I moved full time into spherical luminosity, which is the company that we founded

00:46:03.810 --> 00:46:17.370 Karen Cheong: and under which we provide a lot of tools to help people ascend basically and to experience more abundance, to move forward in their relationships to have more fulfillment in their careers or whatever it is they're looking for.

00:46:17.550 --> 00:46:24.979 Karen Cheong: And that started in February of 2019. And we haven't looked back. So that's what's happened.

00:46:24.980 --> 00:46:26.180 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: You're still in Hawaii,

00:46:26.630 --> 00:46:31.499 Karen Cheong: No. Actually, we moved recently to San Miguel Deanday in Mexico. So.

00:46:31.500 --> 00:46:33.200 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Very great. Send me go, yes, cause.

00:46:33.680 --> 00:46:35.129 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: There we have that conversation.

00:46:35.420 --> 00:46:36.020 Karen Cheong: Yeah.

00:46:36.020 --> 00:46:41.749 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Wonderful. I wish I knew you when I was there. I would have been great to meet you down there.

00:46:41.750 --> 00:46:42.449 Karen Cheong: And find it.

00:46:42.450 --> 00:46:54.470 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Yes, totally. And and and we definitely have to find a way to connect some time. Alright, we gotta take our last break break of the show when we come back. Let's talk about

00:46:55.819 --> 00:46:56.830 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: like.

00:46:56.900 --> 00:47:07.050 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: You know how you work with people now, what they can expect? How can they get in touch with you? All that good stuff? Okay, just got about, you know, 10 min left of the show. So we'll make the most of it. Okay, Karen.

00:47:07.050 --> 00:47:07.849 Karen Cheong: Sounds, great.

00:47:07.850 --> 00:47:18.799 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Wonderful wonderful. So everyone, please stay tuned. You're listening to that conscious, consultant hour awakening humanity, and we'll be right back to wrap it all up with our guest, Karen Chung, in just a moment.

00:49:26.180 --> 00:49:34.259 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Karen, I'm I'm wondering if for audience you can maybe just describe a little bit of like, what does a session look like

00:49:34.270 --> 00:49:44.309 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: with you. And then, if there's maybe we can give people a little bit of taste of like, what can you know people listening today do to raise their frequency.

00:49:44.650 --> 00:49:47.100 Karen Cheong: Sure. So

00:49:47.350 --> 00:50:03.099 Karen Cheong: you know, I do give individual sessions, but I feel like the real power of the work that we give is when you join a group session. So we call them group frequency calibrations, and they show up in different ways. I mean, I give a whole bunch of different workshops. And I give different group frequency calibrations and certain themes.

00:50:03.100 --> 00:50:22.939 Karen Cheong: And the thing is, and I think in our culture right now there's an emphasis on the individual, because we want to have our problems solved. Obviously. And we want to have these things that we have that are concerns for us to be released. And that is important, and what I will say is, when you join a mastermind, which is no one's talking. It's like you all get on a call

00:50:22.940 --> 00:50:46.709 Karen Cheong: and are in the resonance of the frequency work. And we're starting to work on a particular theme. It's because we are all one. You would be surprised how many emails we receive from people saying, I know that there were tons of people on that call, but it sounded like Karen was talking exactly just to me, because what we're doing is we're releasing those distortions that you hold in common. And the wonderful thing about working in a mastermind

00:50:46.710 --> 00:50:57.810 Karen Cheong: is that you have the momentum of a mastermind. So you know, people have different strengths and weaknesses. They get stuck in different places than you do. So with that momentum you really get to start to release your distortion patterns

00:50:57.840 --> 00:51:27.429 Karen Cheong: more quickly sometimes than you can on your own. So, like the individual frequency calibrations which are, you know, given over. You know, audio zoom are good for like specific little tweaks that you want to do. But the people who get the most acceleration I found are the people who do both. Really, you know, they do it like sometimes a 1-off like individual one, but they do mostly the group stuff. That is where they see the most change. And of course we do everything from, you know, live online workshops all the way through to live events. But

00:51:27.740 --> 00:51:28.699 Karen Cheong: you can sort of

00:51:28.860 --> 00:51:52.670 Karen Cheong: check out our website to get a taste of what that is, and that's spherical luminosity.com. But so the experience would be. It sounds like a lot like a guided meditation. That's really what it is. But what's happening is as you're paying attention to whatever it is that I'm suggesting that you pay attention to. I'm releasing at the frequency level the distortion pattern that you're holding that keeps you stuck in a certain kind of experience.

00:51:52.720 --> 00:51:54.640 Karen Cheong: and it is important.

00:51:57.360 --> 00:51:58.090 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Oops!

00:51:59.120 --> 00:52:27.599 Karen Cheong: And after that, because you have free will, and you are, as you say, a conscious Co. Creator and Sovereign, and are Co. Creating a reality. It is important that you consciously, when that distortion pattern shows up in your life for you to get rid of, there is a 5 step process that I have to release that distortion pattern out of your field, and the reason you are doing that is to acknowledge consciously that you are co-creating your reality, and that you have the authority to release on the heavier, denser levels of the physical, mental, emotional.

00:52:27.600 --> 00:52:35.199 Karen Cheong: to release that distortion pattern, because I've done it at the level of the field. So it's there. So you don't have to release the last. I don't know 3% to 5%.

00:52:35.610 --> 00:52:46.209 Karen Cheong: But it requires your free will and your conscious participation to do it, because it's your journey, not mine. And it's for, you know, to understand your authority as Co. Creator. So that's a very important part of the process.

00:52:46.210 --> 00:52:46.870 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Well, that's.

00:52:46.870 --> 00:52:47.899 Karen Cheong: Kind of what you can expect.

00:52:47.900 --> 00:52:48.450 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Second.

00:52:52.300 --> 00:52:52.860 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: maybe.

00:52:52.860 --> 00:52:53.590 Karen Cheong: Is it back?

00:52:54.990 --> 00:52:55.660 Karen Cheong: Is it working?

00:52:55.660 --> 00:52:56.450 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Go ahead!

00:52:56.870 --> 00:52:59.520 Karen Cheong: Does it work? Okay? So I don't know where I cut out. There.

00:53:01.175 --> 00:53:03.680 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Releasing your density.

00:53:04.010 --> 00:53:26.040 Karen Cheong: Yeah. So if you have to. So releasing all of these distortion patterns and being consciously aware of it and using your free will to do. It is a very important part of the process, because it's your journey, and it's important for us, in our awakening process to understand the authority that we have to cocreat our reality, which I know, Sam is like what you're doing with this whole podcast and so for people to really recognise it. It's a fundamental part of the process.

00:53:26.040 --> 00:53:31.540 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Right? Right? Right? Right? Yeah, it's it's kind of taking that ownership that we're creating

00:53:32.398 --> 00:53:34.750 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: life and and sometimes

00:53:34.780 --> 00:53:42.819 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: kind of just getting over that thing of of that victimization mindset to that creative mindset is the hardest part, because

00:53:42.950 --> 00:53:48.329 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: lots of times there are things in our life we don't want to take credit for. We're creating.

00:53:48.330 --> 00:53:48.960 Karen Cheong: Yeah.

00:53:48.960 --> 00:53:54.619 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: So to acknowledge that we're creators means. Oh, you mean I gotta take responsibility for all that. Not so good stuff in my life.

00:53:54.620 --> 00:54:22.659 Karen Cheong: Exactly. It's the good stuff and the not so good stuff, and to become conscious about it as you keep saying as opposed to being unconscious because you are co-creating, no matter what. So I personally feel who I am, that is better to do it consciously, and you are broadcasting a certain frequency out into the universe, and your life is a reflection of that resonance of that broadcast. So the more you can clarify by releasing your distortion, the higher your vibration, the clear what you are broadcasting

00:54:22.660 --> 00:54:28.949 Karen Cheong: is. And so that's when you get to enjoy more of that synchronistic

00:54:29.010 --> 00:54:55.499 Karen Cheong: flowy, abundant stuff that seems like, you know, pseudo awakens babble. But actually, when it happens in your life, you almost have to pinch yourself like you. You have no idea how many emails I receive saying, I literally feel like I have to pinch myself like I just had clients. For example, they started with me about 8 weeks ago. They were doing a whole bunch of different group frequency calibrations because they wanted to increase their business 8 weeks later, increase their business by 60%, hate their chiropractors.

00:54:55.800 --> 00:55:11.969 Karen Cheong: What changed? So did they get unstuck and start to do with different things in their practice? Yes, of course. I mean, you have to do some physical things to make change. And what happened was what they were broadcasting who they are being, how they are in the world has totally shifted.

00:55:11.970 --> 00:55:31.750 Karen Cheong: So there are countless stories of this relationships completely changing and people moving into collaborations that they wouldn't have expected. All because the residents they are is different. So who they're attracted to and who is attracted to them

00:55:31.750 --> 00:55:52.210 Karen Cheong: totally changes. I mean, you know this right? So this is an amazing thing that happens when you release. Like as you said, the density of your distortion, you as being don't really want it unless most of us don't like the heaviness we don't like suffering. We don't like unpleasantness, we would prefer to experience something way better.

00:55:52.210 --> 00:56:14.000 Karen Cheong: So when you start to release the distortion patterns, you pick up momentum, it feels good. And so people who start releasing their distortion becomes kind of fun, because, as opposed to something that impurgens you and you feel victim to you, start to realize. Wait a minute. I can change this, and therefore my life can change. And it's such an incredibly empowering feeling. And yes, Karen helps.

00:56:14.040 --> 00:56:23.300 Karen Cheong: But it's not about me. It's about you knowing that you can do it, that you are actually empowered to do it. And I'm really very

00:56:23.852 --> 00:56:47.199 Karen Cheong: skeptical of and dislike that whole Guru thing. You know. It's like someone expects you to wave your. You know your magic wand over me, and then I'm awake, and all this stuff's gonna happen. No, you can do it, you know. There's that saying like you are your own Guru, you know. But really you are co-creating. That is the joy of the co-creation process. You get to have it. And so I think it's such a wonderful thing at this time that we are starting to claim.

00:56:47.300 --> 00:57:02.199 Karen Cheong: And for people like you to start to spread this message of like you are co-creating. That's amazing, and no one else can do it for you, because it's your life and your journey and your path. And that's kind of a scary thing for some people. And it's also incredibly empowering.

00:57:02.200 --> 00:57:11.599 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: 1 1 last question, we really have to end it. There. Is there anything people need to be careful of like? Can they get too awakened too quickly?

00:57:12.540 --> 00:57:37.139 Karen Cheong: No, because well, not if they're doing, I'm sure they can, Kate, to answer questions. I'm sure they can. But using frequency. No work. No, because what happens is they internally strengthen. And so you become really aware of your thoughts and emotions. It's just your thoughts and emotion. You become aware of yourself as what I call the big S self, or is infinite indestructible consciousness. So I haven't seen it happen because it's a very centred practice. And so it's expansive and centred at the same time.

00:57:37.310 --> 00:57:53.613 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Great. Yes, so it has that grounded component to it, because I've I've talked to many people who've had like these Kundalini awakenings, and then they were hot mess for months after cause they didn't know how to handle it. So this is actually different than that, though

00:57:54.060 --> 00:58:09.989 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: you you it. There's that old expression that the branches of the tree can only grow as high as the roots grow deep, so that you're making sure that the roots are deep. So then the branches can grow high, and they can hold sort of these high frequencies without getting knocked off.

00:58:10.290 --> 00:58:16.690 Karen Cheong: Exactly. Yes, to me expansion without stability only leads to crash and burn. That is not what we're here to do.

00:58:17.400 --> 00:58:32.219 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Exactly exactly. I'm so so glad you said that, Karen. I could talk with you for hours and hours. I can't wait to experience one of your groups. One more time. If people want to learn more about you, get in touch with you, learn about your work. Where did they go?

00:58:32.440 --> 00:58:43.250 Karen Cheong: They go to spherical luminosity. Com. That's with 2 Ls spherical luminosity. Com. And if you want a free workshop on quieting your mind, go to Quietingourmind Com.

00:58:43.500 --> 00:58:49.500 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Oh, okay, we'll make sure to have that in the show notes as well, quieting your mindcom. Beautiful.

00:58:49.550 --> 00:59:04.789 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Alright, Karen, thank you so much for taking time out of your schedule for coming on my show today. It's been a pleasure having you I I wish you, you know, all the success to keep spreading this work, because I know this is something that's a very timely and very needed in the world today.

00:59:05.140 --> 00:59:07.729 Karen Cheong: Thank you so much for having me on, Sam. It's been a real pleasure.

00:59:07.730 --> 00:59:32.539 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Oh, you're so welcome! You're so welcome, and of course, thank you, my loyal listeners, especially Patty. I'm sorry, Patty. I didn't recognize that you commented in the comments before. Thank you for being with us, and because without you, my loyal listeners, there is no show. And of course, if you missed any part of today show you can always catch the replay on talk radio dot, Nyc, as well as on all the podcasting platforms, apple, Google spotify Pandora

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