How to take up the challenge of our contemporary global crises by becoming inspired, effective, and practical agents of institutional and systemic change.
This week, on The Conscious Consultant Hour, Sam is pleased to welcome Internationally Acclaimed Writer, Poet, and Mystical Teacher, Andrew Harvey.
Andrew is the author of over 40 books, including Son of Man, The Hope, Love is Everything, Turn Me to Gold, and Radical Regeneration with Carolyn Baker.
He has taught all over the world and has given over 20 courses for the Shift Network. Andrew is also the founder of the Institute for Sacred Activism, an international organization focused on inviting concerned people to take up the challenge of our contemporary global crises by becoming inspired, effective, and practical agents of institutional and systemic change, in order to create peace and sustainability.
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00:00:40.030 --> 00:00:56.739 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: good afternoon, my conscious co-creators. Good morning. Good evening. Wherever you're tuning in from welcome to the conscious consultant hour awakening humanity. I am very, very pleased that you are here with me today.
00:00:56.740 --> 00:01:14.760 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: We've got a wonderful guest in store for you, and we have a very important conversation today. One that II try and work into my show more and more cause I feel. It's just an important topic for everyone to be aware of
00:01:15.410 --> 00:01:22.699 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: hope you had a chance to tune in to last week's show. We had a wonderful guest
00:01:23.130 --> 00:01:26.600 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Roger Burnley, who who was just
00:01:26.620 --> 00:01:50.159 a a very real human being someone who ended up on an unexpected spiritual path. Sort of a reluctant mystic. Shall we say there are a number of us out there. So I hope you you had a chance to catch that show. If not, you can always catch the replay on talk, radio, dot, Nyc and
00:01:58.910 --> 00:02:12.679 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: cause for those of you haven't tuned in for a little while. We finished my book every day, awakening and reading those little sections at the beginning, and I've been sort of pulling up blog posts from about 2 years ago.
00:02:13.380 --> 00:02:28.220 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: just I picked a starting point, and I've been going in order, and I think they're pretty good. So and most of you probably have missed these. And and if you know, I've been talking about these blogs at the beginning of my show the last several weeks.
00:02:28.290 --> 00:02:48.079 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and if you want to actually read the blog and like check on it every Monday morning I come out with a new blog post, and you can always find it on talk radio dot, NYC. Slash blog. So I encourage you to check it out, and there's a whole bunch of em there like there's years worth of blog posts there. So there's a lot of stuff there.
00:02:48.690 --> 00:03:01.879 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: So this week's blog post is entitled. There is both pain and beauty in the world existing side by side.
00:03:03.290 --> 00:03:11.579 It can be painful when we look around at what is happening in the world. Keep in mind. I wrote this 2 years ago.
00:03:11.610 --> 00:03:17.179 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Wars, greed, violence, and death seems to be everywhere.
00:03:17.550 --> 00:03:20.009 Yet that is not the whole story.
00:03:20.140 --> 00:03:25.789 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: There is so much more to the world than fear and pain.
00:03:26.410 --> 00:03:31.249 While the media may focus on the problems of the world. There are
00:03:31.300 --> 00:03:33.989 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: is also much beauty in the warmth.
00:03:34.820 --> 00:03:38.770 There are acts of kindness and compassion as well.
00:03:39.450 --> 00:03:45.339 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Joy. happiness, and love always reside in this world.
00:03:45.560 --> 00:03:50.280 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: It is up to us to decide which we will focus on.
00:03:50.930 --> 00:03:57.139 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: for when we focus on the things we can do nothing about, we feel disempowered.
00:03:57.890 --> 00:04:06.099 It all seems too big for us to make a difference. How can we truly help while so many others are suffering?
00:04:06.510 --> 00:04:19.240 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Yet when we shift our attention to the good in the world, we can see ways to contribute. We conjoin forces with others who are making a difference, and together
00:04:19.320 --> 00:04:21.500 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: we are stronger.
00:04:22.860 --> 00:04:30.039 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: The hard part to reconcile is that both exist in the world side by side
00:04:30.720 --> 00:04:32.109 there is a good
00:04:32.120 --> 00:04:33.400 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and bad.
00:04:33.500 --> 00:04:39.859 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: there is pain and suffering as well as beauty and joy.
00:04:40.700 --> 00:04:44.460 One does not discount the other.
00:04:45.770 --> 00:04:49.830 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Our choice to make is which one will we support.
00:04:51.020 --> 00:04:55.919 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: We support one aspect or another, many different ways.
00:04:56.690 --> 00:05:01.930 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: our action or inact, with our action or inaction.
00:05:02.320 --> 00:05:05.670 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: or with our resources and energy.
00:05:05.850 --> 00:05:07.529 or with our apathy.
00:05:08.840 --> 00:05:11.340 no one can choose for us.
00:05:12.030 --> 00:05:17.329 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: It is up to us to decide which path we will take.
00:05:18.500 --> 00:05:22.769 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: yet we do not make that choice only once.
00:05:23.850 --> 00:05:31.480 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: We make that choice every day, with our words, our deeds, and our vision.
00:05:32.800 --> 00:05:38.750 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: so do we see more beauty and peace in the world or less
00:05:39.850 --> 00:05:44.840 do we lean into the world we want to create for our future?
00:05:45.050 --> 00:05:47.500 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Or do we succumb to our fears
00:05:51.010 --> 00:06:02.190 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: every day we get to choose. And just because one day we choose, one path does not mean we cannot choose the other path the following day.
00:06:03.760 --> 00:06:05.649 So what do you choose?
00:06:06.850 --> 00:06:11.719 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Where can you focus more on the beauty and light of the world.
00:06:11.800 --> 00:06:15.189 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and less on the horror and anguish?
00:06:17.850 --> 00:06:19.900 So I mean.
00:06:20.310 --> 00:06:25.389 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: it's really quite interesting, because at the time I wrote this
00:06:26.590 --> 00:06:35.869 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: I don't believe there was a war in Ukraine, yet there was no war in Gaza. There was no, there was not the same
00:06:37.850 --> 00:06:39.830 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: level of
00:06:41.330 --> 00:06:45.320 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: conflict and anger in the world that there is to day.
00:06:48.600 --> 00:06:50.310 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: but there still was.
00:06:50.700 --> 00:06:53.810 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and that's the thing there always is
00:06:55.140 --> 00:07:01.620 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: in the history of this world. As far back as we have records of that we know of.
00:07:02.880 --> 00:07:09.010 there has always been war, famine, conflict, disease, tragedy.
00:07:10.150 --> 00:07:12.390 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: unspeakable horrors.
00:07:14.760 --> 00:07:22.410 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and side by side there have been acts of love and kindness. There have been
00:07:23.390 --> 00:07:28.480 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: moments of peace, there has been beauty in the world.
00:07:31.280 --> 00:07:35.160 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: it's all been there. It's always been there.
00:07:37.260 --> 00:07:39.629 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: The challenge for us is.
00:07:42.140 --> 00:07:45.190 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: what are we choosing to focus on?
00:07:47.990 --> 00:07:53.660 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And people may think, well, you know, II don't choose to focus on. It's just what comes to me.
00:07:55.060 --> 00:08:05.870 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Yeah. But where do we go for our content? What are we paying attention to? Now? Look, I'm not saying we should ignore
00:08:06.720 --> 00:08:10.640 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: the violence and the and the tragedies in the world.
00:08:13.010 --> 00:08:16.010 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: But the mainstream media
00:08:16.200 --> 00:08:19.130 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: has gotten so focused
00:08:19.470 --> 00:08:26.859 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: on the cycle of violence and and and things that cause fear and tragedy and
00:08:26.950 --> 00:08:37.370 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and and victimhood. that if we're just paying attention to the mainstream media, we're just getting fed this day in and day out.
00:08:39.309 --> 00:08:49.630 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And what I think most people don't realize is the more we feed that information into our nervous system, into our unconscious.
00:08:49.810 --> 00:08:54.289 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: The worse we feel. the more disempowered we feel.
00:08:55.260 --> 00:09:01.649 the more apathy we feel, the more we feel. What's the use? There's so much tragedy out there. What can we do?
00:09:06.150 --> 00:09:10.040 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Yeah, what can we do? And that's exactly the point
00:09:10.330 --> 00:09:14.690 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: we don't have to fix all the world's problems ourselves.
00:09:16.550 --> 00:09:22.150 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Actually. all we really need to do is focus
00:09:22.250 --> 00:09:25.090 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: on the things that call to us.
00:09:26.040 --> 00:09:33.429 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: focus on the things we personally care about, that we can do something about
00:09:34.720 --> 00:09:54.290 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: for some people. It's about helping people addicted to drugs for other people. It's about domestic violence for other people. It's about unwed mothers for other people. It's about children with cancer for other people. It's about wars and famines throughout the world.
00:09:55.060 --> 00:09:58.299 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Everybody picks their own.
00:09:59.360 --> 00:10:01.740 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: everyone picks their own
00:10:02.200 --> 00:10:04.230 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: cause
00:10:04.340 --> 00:10:13.540 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: to focus on. So the fact that there is both pain and beauty in the world and an existing side by side.
00:10:14.550 --> 00:10:16.300 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: It's something that
00:10:17.660 --> 00:10:19.720 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: has always been with us.
00:10:20.270 --> 00:10:25.970 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: but we often forget that we have a choice of what are we going to focus on?
00:10:26.810 --> 00:10:32.840 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Of what aspect in our own lives are we going to focus on
00:10:34.020 --> 00:10:47.429 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: the environment. Are we going to focus on cleaning up a park in our neighborhood? Are we going to focus on helping people in a soup kitchen in our neighborhood on Thanksgiving, or or just on a regular weekend.
00:10:48.310 --> 00:10:54.820 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Yeah. there's a lot of problems in this world. Yes, there are a lot of things to be concerned about.
00:10:57.620 --> 00:11:03.179 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and the key is not to allow all of that to overwhelm us.
00:11:03.660 --> 00:11:12.399 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: but to allow it to motivate us, to find the things that we care enough about to put our energy towards it.
00:11:13.600 --> 00:11:20.730 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and when we're mindful enough of what we're taking in of the content and information we're taking in.
00:11:22.410 --> 00:11:26.399 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and we don't overwhelm ourselves with the challenges.
00:11:26.440 --> 00:11:36.920 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: But we look for. And there's a lot of great stuff happening in the world today. There is literally a flowering of consciousness that's happening around the world.
00:11:37.500 --> 00:11:46.199 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: There is more healing happening than ever before. There is more effort to cut down on the amount of violence and tragedy in the world.
00:11:46.560 --> 00:11:47.240 Andrew Harvey: Whoop!
00:11:47.750 --> 00:11:59.160 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: So there's a lot happening in the world today to be hopeful for, to uplift. It's just a question of what we choose to focus on.
00:11:59.830 --> 00:12:15.969 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: So yes. as this blog post is entitled, there is both pain and beauty in the world existing side by side. and the beautiful part about it is we get to choose what we focus on moment to moment, to moment.
00:12:17.690 --> 00:12:27.640 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: So if today is a day, you feel energized and you feel invigorated, and you want to focus on a cause to help alleviate suffering wonderful.
00:12:28.090 --> 00:12:37.379 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Or if today you're feeling sick and your energy is drained, and you just don't feel like you have the wherewithal to help anyone else.
00:12:39.170 --> 00:12:49.470 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: That's a time to focus on the good in the world. That's a time to focus on the beauty in the world. Maybe that's a time to go. Take a walk in nature and reconnect with nature
00:12:50.550 --> 00:12:54.419 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and feel the support that we get from this planet.
00:12:56.140 --> 00:13:06.629 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: So that's my blog post. There's both pain and beauty in the world existing side by side. You can always find my blog on talkradio, dot Nyc slash blog.
00:13:06.630 --> 00:13:26.709 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And before I introduce my guest, I see we have a couple of loyal listeners tuning in today. I see Sonia on. Facebook. Thank you so much. And and I see Patty also loyal listeners. Tuning in and and sharing the video. Thank you so much. I really appreciate. You guys always tuning in each week.
00:13:26.710 --> 00:13:36.840 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And so now it is my extreme pleasure to welcome to the show internationally acclaimed writer, poet, and mystical teacher, Andrew Harvey
00:13:36.890 --> 00:13:47.379 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Andrew is the author of over 40 books, including Son of Man. The Hope, Love is everything. Turn me to gold, and his newest book.
00:13:48.030 --> 00:13:52.500 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Radical regeneration with Carolyn Baker.
00:13:52.740 --> 00:13:59.549 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: He is taught all over the world and has given over 20 courses for the shift network.
00:13:59.600 --> 00:14:27.159 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Andrew is also the founder of the Institute for Sacred Activism, which I'm definitely going to ask him about an international organization focused on inviting concerned people to take up the challenge of our contemporary global crises by becoming inspired, effective and practical change. Agents of institutional and systematic change in order to create peace and sustainability. Welcome to the conscious consultant now, or Harvey.
00:14:28.190 --> 00:14:33.860 Andrew Harvey: Sam. Thank you so much, and I loved what you were saying, because there's a wonderful
00:14:34.220 --> 00:15:02.179 Andrew Harvey: poem by Rumi when he says the rivers of blood and the rivers of milk run side by side, and that we're in a dimension full of obvious agony and suffering and pain. We're in an unprecedented evolutionary crisis. But in the middle of that extraordinary new visions are arising to empower us and give us direction and give us hope. And that's what
00:15:02.210 --> 00:15:31.799 Andrew Harvey: I pray and hope radical regeneration. The book that I wrote with Carolyn Baker is. It's an unflinching look at what's going on, but it is not paralyzed by that unflinching look. It takes the realistic pain of what we're going through as a way of inspiring people to go deep into their divine essence and find the love that prompts them to act, to act with consciousness and compassion.
00:15:32.430 --> 00:15:42.400 Andrew Harvey: and that, I believe, is the deep meaning of the crisis itself. It's come to get help us get rid of all of the structures that confine us.
00:15:42.670 --> 00:15:54.690 Andrew Harvey: And it's an agonizing process. But its goal is to birth us all into a wholly new level of evolutionary. And that's what the book celebrates.
00:15:54.690 --> 00:16:21.369 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Beautiful, beautiful! Alright, don't! Don't give away the whole show in the first 5 min a lot more. So so we're gonna take a quick break. And when we come back I'd like to just touch a little bit upon your own journey about what brought you to write this particular book because you've written so many books. You're a Rumi scholar, you you! You've been studying and and been in in the spiritual and mystical realms for most of your life.
00:16:21.370 --> 00:16:30.099 I'd I'd love to know what kind of brought you to write this book, and then II do want to dig into some of the aspects of this book, and what you talk about in it.
00:16:30.380 --> 00:16:51.289 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Looking for you, Sam. We'll dance together beautifully, I'm sure. Wonderful wonderful. Thank you so much. So everyone, please stay tuned. You're listening to the conscious, consultant hour awakening humanity. We do this every Thursday 12 noon to one PM. Eastern time, and we will be right back with our guest, Andrew Harvey, in just a moment.
00:18:46.110 --> 00:18:46.960 Okay.
00:19:07.820 --> 00:19:30.569 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: so Andrew oops you've written many books. I mean, you've written like 40 books. That's that's more than most people read. Yes, a a. And and a lot of your books. Love is everything turned me to gold. They're really about sort of the spiritual path.
00:19:30.570 --> 00:19:44.639 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Yes, they're mystical books. Yes, they're they're mystical books. So. But but radical regeneration is, I mean, it's in it's it's, I would say, spiritually informed. But it's a different kind of book, isn't it, from your other books?
00:19:45.840 --> 00:19:52.250 Andrew Harvey: Well, I think it's related to the hope, because the hope was the book that began the global movement of sacred activism.
00:19:52.490 --> 00:20:12.519 Andrew Harvey: But what radical regeneration is is the distillation of a lifetime's experience of our culture and an analysis of the great global dark night that's now happening, because it's essential to see and feel and know that we are in an unprecedented crisis.
00:20:12.620 --> 00:20:33.310 Andrew Harvey: and to know that it's an evolutionary crisis, and to know, too, that it is a crisis that mirrors in the outer world the great crisis that happens in the life of the mystic, the global dark night, the dark night crisis which kills and resurrects the mystic.
00:20:33.710 --> 00:20:37.770 And what I was trying to do with Carolyn is to offer a
00:20:38.130 --> 00:20:44.869 Andrew Harvey: unsparing vision of the crisis with a very exalted but practical
00:20:45.850 --> 00:20:53.540 Andrew Harvey: opening to the vision that's coming through in this crisis of its true goal and its true meaning.
00:20:53.960 --> 00:21:14.830 Andrew Harvey: and what I believe and what Carolyn and I believe is, and this, when we're lined with the great evolutionary mystics of humanity. What I believe is that this crisis is an ordained crisis. It's a crisis that could potentially birth us into a whole new level of embodied divine power if we face it.
00:21:15.070 --> 00:21:40.410 Andrew Harvey: if we react to it from the depths of ourselves. And if we align ourselves with this great evolutionary vision of a new humanity being born from the ashes of the old. And if we pledge ourselves to to what I call sacred activism, to putting our love and principles and compassion into wise, urgent, sacredly inspired action.
00:21:40.540 --> 00:21:51.300 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Yeah. And if we do, then the worst of times will turn out to be the birthing ground of an unimaginable new possibility.
00:21:51.890 --> 00:21:52.730 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: The.
00:21:53.450 --> 00:22:00.630 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: you know I've been coming be, have been becoming more and more aware over the last several years
00:22:00.720 --> 00:22:06.009 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: of sort of th. These global crises of the evolutionary crises of these
00:22:06.060 --> 00:22:13.350 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: feedback loops that threaten to totally destroy the world that we live in. And
00:22:13.470 --> 00:22:27.119 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: II was really at 1 point just getting very depressed about the whole thing, cause II didn't feel like there seem to be any change like the the. The governments aren't really making the kind of change
00:22:27.160 --> 00:22:36.140 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: that that need to be happening. The the the corporations who really hold the power aren't changing the way they do, I mean even the most recent company.
00:22:36.140 --> 00:22:58.510 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: pop 28 th, th, the the the one I forget who it was, but one of the leaders said, like, Oh, fossil fuels don't have anything to do with the climate crisis. And I'm like, what are you? This is something we've known for for decades, and he's still like saying No, and and then
00:22:58.510 --> 00:23:02.020 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: I read this piece. I forget who wrote it.
00:23:02.400 --> 00:23:03.900 but they were
00:23:04.110 --> 00:23:08.019 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: comparing sort of what's going on today
00:23:08.170 --> 00:23:33.719 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: to the caterpillar, and and how I forget which the certain type of caterpillar. And they and they pointed out how like this type of caterpillar before it's gonna go into its chrysalis to turn into a butterfly. It they ravagedly eat everything around, and it looks like they're literally eating all the leaves, destroying all like it's totally going to destroy everything, and then it stops.
00:23:33.900 --> 00:23:38.969 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: goes into the cocoon, goes into the chrysalis to then turn into the butterfly
00:23:39.180 --> 00:23:58.509 Andrew Harvey: right, but the process by which it turns into the butterfly is the one in which we're in, because what happens is that when the caterpillar goes into the cocoon it starts to dissolve into a gray gunge form completely dissolves.
00:23:58.950 --> 00:24:09.290 Then something unbelievable happens, Sam, and I'm sure you know this. But it really is a great key to what's happening in that gray gunch
00:24:09.370 --> 00:24:21.649 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: wakes up what are called imaginal cells. You could. You don't. You can't make this up imaginal cells, and those imaginal cells initially are disparate, but they
00:24:21.880 --> 00:24:27.240 Andrew Harvey: come together, and they constantly together, and they form
00:24:27.590 --> 00:24:34.419 Andrew Harvey: the body of the butterfly, which then breaks through the membrane and flies free.
00:24:34.710 --> 00:24:49.949 That process is what's happening. The old structures, the old ways of thought, the old reactions on every level are being revealed to be bankrupt and are collapsing. And it's scary as hell, and it
00:24:49.950 --> 00:25:11.570 Andrew Harvey: drives us all at moments to paralysis and to despair. But if we remember and this is why I've emphasized the dark night so much in this book if we remember the process that the butterfly goes through, and if we remember that in that grey gouge, in that dissolved essence all kinds of new.
00:25:11.570 --> 00:25:14.190 Andrew Harvey: hopeful, vibrant visions
00:25:14.520 --> 00:25:39.029 Andrew Harvey: rise and can potentially come together. Then all we really want to do is to be one of those people who are part of the imaginal cell, arising part of the formation of the butterfly of the new embodied divine humanity that can co-create a wholly new way of being and doing everything with the divine.
00:25:39.030 --> 00:25:49.030 Andrew Harvey: There's no certainty that this will work. Yeah, but it's the only thing that could work in a situation as disastrous as ours, and it's
00:25:49.040 --> 00:25:56.230 Andrew Harvey: it bears a lot. It has a lot in the great evolutionary scientists and the great evolutionary mystics behind it.
00:25:56.260 --> 00:26:10.180 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: So I gambled my whole life and my whole teaching on this to give radical, rugged hope to people at a moment when despair threatens our will and our belief in life. Yes.
00:26:10.600 --> 00:26:14.259 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: I noticed in your first chapter. You talk about collie
00:26:14.870 --> 00:26:26.270 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: the the the and and I feel like Collie is one of the misunderstood arch types of of the Hindu belief system.
00:26:26.700 --> 00:26:33.730 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: What do you feel? It's important for people to know about Collie cause she's a very important figure at this time, isn't she?
00:26:33.860 --> 00:26:36.700 Andrew Harvey: Well, this is a Cardi event. Yeah.
00:26:36.790 --> 00:26:54.990 Andrew Harvey: this is the event of the explosion of the dark feminine that says you cannot go on torturing life. You cannot go on living tribally, you cannot go on oppressing homosexuals, you cannot go on denigrating women. You cannot go on
00:26:55.090 --> 00:27:06.389 Andrew Harvey: creating a capitalist system which absurdly rewards a few people and keeps billions of people in forms of slavery. It's over.
00:27:07.650 --> 00:27:27.370 Andrew Harvey: Collie, is that force that's gone from the heart of life that protects life ferociously and, when necessary, intervenes to radically destroy everything that is preventing life from flowering in its fullest.
00:27:27.890 --> 00:27:37.449 Andrew Harvey: She is the most loving of the mothers, because behind the dark ask behind the fury behind the destruction
00:27:37.530 --> 00:27:53.020 Andrew Harvey: is a golden mask, and that golden mask is saying, Wait till you see what my destruction is preparing for you. Wait until you feel the astounding new visions. This destruction will give birth to
00:27:53.020 --> 00:28:17.930 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: wait until you plunge neatly for once with whole sincerity into inmost practice. What you will discover will amaze you, and what you will discover is that this force, Kali, which is destroying, is also in goldening you through that process, through destroying in you all your illusions and false addictions.
00:28:18.350 --> 00:28:33.880 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: false fantasies about your power, a wholly new level of divine power and beauty and passion and force will be revealed in you. So what I'd love people to know about Carly is that Kali is
00:28:34.890 --> 00:28:45.489 Andrew Harvey: course, the most terrifying aspect. But actually behind that terror is an immense, unconditional, wise beyond imagining love that is
00:28:45.670 --> 00:29:08.440 Andrew Harvey: hell bent and heaven bent on transfiguring us now. So, instead of being aids in the body of the world which we are now destroying. Everything, we become conscious guardians and conscious creators with her of a unified world, a world in which people live in dignity, and animals
00:29:08.440 --> 00:29:27.389 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: are respected and revered, and the creation is celebrated as have a great dance and manifestation. So that's my understanding of, and I love your passion behind it. Andrew, I truly love your passion. I see that this is something that comes from your heart, not from your head.
00:29:27.500 --> 00:29:32.190 Andrew Harvey: or it comes from my heart, and it comes from my inmost sacred experience.
00:29:32.210 --> 00:29:52.479 It's not just the heart, it's the heart that has been shattered open by suffering to the glory of what's possible. So I know from my own inmost experience of an incredibly painful and difficult and dark night, which lasted 10 years, in which I had death. Threats and madness happened on every level
00:29:52.480 --> 00:30:12.770 Andrew Harvey: which I, through grace, survived to be immeasurably expanded myself in my work and my vision, and through that experience I've come to understand that the deepest level that this crisis is terrifying, though it is a crisis, not only of death. It's a crisis, much more importantly, of birth.
00:30:12.780 --> 00:30:36.650 Andrew Harvey: and as many of you listening know, birth is a messy, chaotic process. It's not painless. A woman doesn't just suddenly just sit down and give birth to a baby. It goes through a massive, massive process, involving contractions involving sometimes great struggle and sometimes immense suffering. The woman, but
00:30:36.650 --> 00:31:01.339 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: when the baby is born all that pain is forgotten. Yes, yes, and it's a messy process. It's all kinds of garbage around dangerous, too, because there it's a dangerous passage from the womb into the light for the child, and sometimes for the mother also in that.
00:31:01.530 --> 00:31:19.740 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Yes, wonderful, wonderful! We. We need to take another break. When we come back again. I wanna III didn't quite ask the question, what made you write this book now like like? And how long I mean, this thing is thick. How many pages is this? It's like
00:31:45.440 --> 00:32:10.340 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: on on the live stream, saying, she builds. She loves to build for habitat, for humanity like that's cause. And that's what? Yeah. So III highly support you, Patty. I think habit for humanity is a great cause. So everyone, please stay tuned. We'll be right back with our guest, Andrew Harvey, author of the book, Radical Regeneration with Carolyn Baker.
00:32:10.510 --> 00:32:13.190 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and we'll be right back in just a moment.
00:34:17.270 --> 00:34:29.989 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and welcome back to the conscious consult now awakening humanity. So, as we mentioned Andrew, your book, radical regeneration is pretty thick. How long did it take to put this all together with Carolyn?
00:34:30.380 --> 00:34:36.950 Andrew Harvey: Well, actually, it's 4 books we did 4 books. We began with a book called Return to Joy, because
00:34:37.000 --> 00:34:52.260 Andrew Harvey: we felt it was so important that people realized in the middle of all of the madness that joy is the essential power, because joy is the essential nature of the divine, the great bliss that the divine is in action.
00:34:52.739 --> 00:35:15.999 Andrew Harvey: And then we wrote a book called Savage Grace, which was about how this crisis is a savage grace. Is Carly savage grace to us, on the one hand, destroying what's no longer valuable for us, and on the other offering us, through that suffering and difficulty, a wholly new path of integration and holism and generosity and compassion and action.
00:35:16.290 --> 00:35:36.110 Then we decided to write a book on animals because we're both passionate animal lovers and also beings who've been tremendously transformed by our relationship with our animals, and we plunged into all the horror of animal cruelty, but tried to analyze why we hate our
00:35:36.160 --> 00:35:52.510 animal nature so much that we crucified the animals, and offer a vision of the reclamation of the animal divine that will enable us to embody more deeply and be spontaneous and
00:35:52.570 --> 00:36:13.079 Andrew Harvey: juicy and passionate. So that was that book. And then we finished it with a book which actually is the title of the whole series. Now, radical regeneration in which we brought everything together, and offered modalities to people of connecting with the evolutionary fashion of the Divine Mother
00:36:13.080 --> 00:36:28.569 Andrew Harvey: to birth a new race out of the death of the old, and to encourage people to express their growing understanding of what's necessary in this crisis in urgent focus, wise, sacred action.
00:36:28.840 --> 00:36:30.080 So what
00:36:30.230 --> 00:36:46.940 Andrew Harvey: prompted me to write. The book is my lifetime's understanding that the world would face in my lifetime an unspeakable, unprecedented crisis, a global dark night on every level.
00:36:47.300 --> 00:37:10.449 Andrew Harvey: and my understanding, too, that the so called spiritual world was totally unprepared for this crisis, because it was in La La Land. It was in New age, fantasy about the world, and people were being encouraged to feel fabulous. But nobody was being encouraged to really look and see the agony of what's happening, let alone to actually react to it
00:37:10.600 --> 00:37:39.289 Andrew Harvey: through sacred, wise action, through the nonviolent resistance of the great ones like Gandhi and Martin Luther King, and of course the Christ Himself. So it was my anguish at what I knew was going to unfold, and what is now unfolding, and my outrage at the superficiality of so much of the spiritual discourse that led Carolyn and I to really try
00:37:39.330 --> 00:37:49.029 Andrew Harvey: and make a statement that would be absolutely unflinching in its facing of the crisis, and as exalted and inspiring as possible
00:37:49.070 --> 00:37:51.180 as a path through
00:37:51.190 --> 00:38:00.969 Andrew Harvey: the crisis. It was my. it is my manifesto. It's my handbook for the Apocalypse, and everything's in it that you could possibly watch.
00:38:00.970 --> 00:38:25.379 There's a huge slew of practices. There's a huge slew of potential approaches. We bring together the mystical wisdom of all of the great traditions we align ourselves with the great evolutionary mystics, like shrivendo of each of the traditions, and we offer a path that is both very profoundly mystical and very profoundly practical. And it's that marriage at the time
00:38:25.380 --> 00:38:38.909 Andrew Harvey: deepest level of the deepest spirituality, with the wisest concerted action that will not only embody us as embody divine human beings, but also
00:38:39.330 --> 00:39:02.979 Andrew Harvey: reveal to us that we have enormous divine powers through grace, to work on seemingly impossible situations, and achieve at 2 min to midnight miraculous results. And when we discover that the hopelessness that's afflicting so many people will evaporate, and we will realize that part of being Co. Creators.
00:39:02.980 --> 00:39:24.260 Andrew Harvey: Everybody talks about being a co-creator with the divine. But what does it actually mean? It means that you die to your full self. You're born into your real self, which is one with the one, and you give your whole life, your mind, your heart, your soul, your body, your energy, your resources to being
00:39:24.260 --> 00:39:36.060 a co-creator with the divine of a new world that is arising, as you said, so beautifully in your initial monologue, that is rising in the middle of this madness.
00:39:36.060 --> 00:39:58.079 Andrew Harvey: and what we encourage people most to do is something that you exemplify. At the beginning we encourage people to develop what I call birth eyes. It's very easy. In fact, it's almost impossible not to. When you look at the news. When you see the Secretary, General saying climate breakdown has begun. When you look at Ukraine, when you look at the unspeakable
00:39:58.170 --> 00:40:19.530 Andrew Harvey: aura of what's happening in Gaza, the horror that's happened to both the Israelis and to the Palestinians. When you contemplate the potential of that war expanding. When you look at the helplessness of politicians in dealing with the climate crisis, when you really contemplate the fact that the 1 million animal species are now on the brink of extinction? It's very easy
00:40:19.670 --> 00:40:27.980 Andrew Harvey: to just become absolutely stricken, overwhelmed. Turn away and retreat into fantasy
00:40:27.990 --> 00:40:37.319 Andrew Harvey: or into despair, and that is neither fantasy nor despair are a luxury we can afford or need to.
00:40:37.550 --> 00:40:49.510 Andrew Harvey: So why we wrote the book is to show people that you can face it all. You can accept it all. You can see it all
00:40:49.560 --> 00:40:52.900 Andrew Harvey: and not be broken.
00:40:53.220 --> 00:41:00.559 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: because if you develop through divine practice a spacious enough consciousness.
00:41:00.680 --> 00:41:28.900 Andrew Harvey: And if you truly understand that the dark night process is a birthing process of an embodied divine human being. And if you really really, with the help of the great evolution, mystics of the past, with Rumi and Kabir and Rabindo helping us really see that the new race that could come out of this crisis could be immeasurably more wise, humble, and
00:41:28.900 --> 00:41:50.050 illuminated. Then, in the middle of the suffering you connect to the goal, the meaning, the depth of yourself, and you pledge yourself to be one of the humble births of the new. Well, come what may, I don't believe I will see this
00:41:50.050 --> 00:41:57.560 Andrew Harvey: new creation in my lifetime, but I can see it appearing. I can see it in the extinction
00:41:58.180 --> 00:42:27.580 Andrew Harvey: movement. Greta Thunberg's amazing movement. I can see it in the extraordinary new books that are coming out with this vision in different ways being expressed, I can see it in the tremendous rising up of a passion for democracy in America, at the time when democracy is clearly monumentally threatened by the Republicans, I can see it everywhere. This birth arising in the middle of the death, and
00:42:27.950 --> 00:42:33.760 Andrew Harvey: having both eyes, enables you to stay aware of the
00:42:33.960 --> 00:42:43.599 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: the first little toes of the baby appearing. Yes, yes, that that that it it it is being birth.
00:42:43.730 --> 00:42:56.550 Andrew Harvey: it is being birthed, and we're being birthed in it, and I feel immeasurably more calm, more joyful, more grounded in the middle of all of this than I've ever felt. And that's Grace. That's because
00:42:56.590 --> 00:43:12.499 Andrew Harvey: the mother has graced me. This vision, Grace Carolyn, this vision and grace, many others on the planet. This vision and this vision cannot be something that we invented. If so many people are being inspired and emboldened by it at this moment. It is
00:43:12.500 --> 00:43:30.590 Carly, savage grace to us to give us this vision at the time when we need to really embody it and align ourselves with it at the deepest possible level. Knowing. That is why I wrote the book so that other people could know that and be inspired by that.
00:43:30.590 --> 00:43:39.840 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Yeah, absolutely, absolutely. Kali is birthing what they call homoluminus. Right? That's the next version of Homo sapiens homo luminous
00:43:39.840 --> 00:43:48.439 Andrew Harvey: homo luminous is a one way of putting it. But I think for me, a better, richer way.
00:43:48.440 --> 00:44:13.390 Andrew Harvey: Well, explaining, it is that it's the embodied divine. We've had a vision of the divine as being transcendent. We've invented all kinds of weird dogmas. We've denigrated the body. We've denigrated nature. We've denigrated sexuality. The return of the divine feminine is returning us to the lost half of ourselves, to the abandoned half of ourselves.
00:44:13.390 --> 00:44:16.099 Reclaiming the body, reclaiming
00:44:16.100 --> 00:44:36.770 Andrew Harvey: sexuality is divine, reclaiming the passion to act from love, to help and protect and honor and enshrine in law the truth of the world. This is the mother's demand for us, because she knows that if we will be born as authentic, divine human beings.
00:44:36.770 --> 00:44:57.069 Andrew Harvey: So it's homo luminous. Yes, but it's always also Homo agents. It's also man acting. It's also Homo prayans. It's also man creating. It's also Homo ludens. It's man playing. It's also homo amans. It's man, love loving the worm, loving animals, loving
00:44:57.070 --> 00:45:09.200 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: human beings, loving with a fear, sweet, protective, passionate love that expresses itself in sacrificial action.
00:45:09.850 --> 00:45:34.600 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: I'm I'm so I'm so happy. You're you're on the show today, Andrew. You've been. You've been in the trenches for a long time. You know what we've all been facing. The superficiality, the the denial. There's no no more time for any of that. We have to get to the real sources of truth. And that's what I hope I've been able to present to people in this book. Absolutely.
00:45:34.600 --> 00:45:43.509 We need to take one more break in the show when we come back. I wanna talk. I wanna ask you about the Institute for Sacred activism. And what can people do
00:45:43.510 --> 00:45:51.659 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: after we? They hear this message, you know, what sort of action can they realistically take in their busy lives today? Okay.
00:45:52.160 --> 00:46:09.700 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: so thank God, wonderful. So everyone, please stay tuned. You're listening to the conscious consult now awakening humanity. We've been speaking this hour to Andrew Harvey, author of the book Radical regeneration with Carolyn Baker, and we will be right back to finish it all up in just a moment.
00:48:05.990 --> 00:48:09.610 me your
00:48:11.860 --> 00:48:16.730 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and welcome back Andrew.
00:48:16.970 --> 00:48:39.710 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: so II wanna mention so your book. Radical regeneration, you know, some seeing regeneration a lot lately another author who's a former guest of the show. Daniel Pinchbeck is actually running right now. A a a 6 week summit called our regenerative future, with all kinds of different people.
00:48:39.720 --> 00:48:45.180 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: joining in and and and sharing the vision of of what we could do?
00:48:45.350 --> 00:48:50.559 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: what can people do today? And and and what is the Institute for sacred activism.
00:48:52.090 --> 00:48:53.459 Andrew Harvey: Think the question.
00:48:53.580 --> 00:48:56.909 Andrew Harvey: She is not so much what we can do.
00:48:57.010 --> 00:49:09.010 Andrew Harvey: That's a very important question. But there's another question that predates that, and that is, who will we become in order to do what we have to do
00:49:09.610 --> 00:49:17.340 Andrew Harvey: so before you can truly rise too. Such an extreme situation!
00:49:17.410 --> 00:49:23.189 Andrew Harvey: I believe you have to make a commitment to deep mystical practice.
00:49:23.290 --> 00:49:27.390 Andrew Harvey: so that you can uncover your own
00:49:27.420 --> 00:49:44.070 divine self and know how lucid, strong, amazingly loving, and powerful it is. That doesn't mean that you don't act while you're doing that process. But it means that that process which reveals to you who you really are is the
00:49:44.080 --> 00:50:01.590 Andrew Harvey: foundational process. Then, when you discover who you really are, and the power that belongs to your authentic nature, then you also discover the strength and the stamina to stand by whatever choice you make.
00:50:01.720 --> 00:50:11.299 Andrew Harvey: So when you've discovered who or are in the process of discovering who you really are, then the question is, what do I do?
00:50:11.500 --> 00:50:12.960 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And
00:50:13.070 --> 00:50:25.300 Andrew Harvey: I've come up with a very simple solution for people which has helped hundreds of thousands of people, and it is to ask yourself very deeply.
00:50:25.560 --> 00:50:30.740 Andrew Harvey: what of all of the causes in the world? What of all of the tragedies and
00:50:30.740 --> 00:50:55.719 horrors that are going on? What breaks your heart the most. What really makes you feel that you can hardly bear to think about it, because it's so outrageous, so maddening, and it causes you so much suffering. It's very brave question to ask yourself, but when you do, and when you discover what it is that shatters your heart the most you've also discovered.
00:50:56.270 --> 00:51:04.990 Andrew Harvey: what you can pour yourself passionately into to do something about. And I had this experience
00:51:05.460 --> 00:51:18.590 Andrew Harvey: myself, because I as I'm sure you and I'm sure, many people listening. Everybody listening has very deep concerns on many different levels. But I was in a Starbucks early in the morning.
00:51:19.030 --> 00:51:35.340 Andrew Harvey: and I was reading the paper, and it was full of the rapes and horrors and trails and crazy stuff. And then I came to story about a group of young Mexican immigrants, who become so despairing that they used to torture the
00:51:35.510 --> 00:51:40.450 Andrew Harvey: animals that were going to be slaughtered in the slaughterhouse, that they were working for no money.
00:51:40.840 --> 00:51:48.220 Andrew Harvey: and suddenly I wanted to vomit. I could hardly read what I was reading. I could hardly bear it.
00:51:48.320 --> 00:51:59.099 Andrew Harvey: At that moment I realized that my own personal, sacred activism would always be on behalf of animals. Because I feel that what we're doing to animals is the most atrocious thing.
00:51:59.290 --> 00:52:08.370 Andrew Harvey: So that's how I discovered my personal, sacred activism. And when I shared that with people, it lit a light because it gives you a focus.
00:52:08.560 --> 00:52:13.489 So go into deep prayer and ask yourself over a week
00:52:13.620 --> 00:52:21.650 Andrew Harvey: what really breaks my heart, and then make a decision in the core of your life to do something
00:52:23.690 --> 00:52:41.020 Andrew Harvey: and to do it with joy, knowing that it's an ocean of misery. But your pebble will dislodge some of that misery, and then you can go to bed every night feeling that you've made your contribution, and that you're living a life which is awake.
00:52:41.690 --> 00:52:51.979 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Wonderful, wonderful! It's beautiful. It's beautiful. Yeah. You like that as a way for galvanite. The beauty of that practice is that it connects you with your deep heart.
00:52:52.600 --> 00:53:04.369 Andrew Harvey: and when you're connected with your deep heart, it it can be difficult, because you will feel pain. But you're also connected in your deep part with your deep passion.
00:53:04.430 --> 00:53:16.480 Andrew Harvey: And Rumi said, you know fashion dissolves all the branches of exhaustion. Passion is the supreme edxia, and renews all life, so don't
00:53:16.520 --> 00:53:30.719 sigh heavily, or brow bleak with cynicism and boredom dare to look for passion passion passion. Passion. Let divine passion triumph and rebirth you in yourself.
00:53:30.850 --> 00:53:57.210 Andrew Harvey: and the way you let your divine passion triumph in this situation is to really ask your heart what hurts it the most, and then dedicate the energies of your whole life to doing something real about that real suffering, and you'll find what everybody finds who rises to this challenge, that when you do your life become flooded with meaning.
00:53:57.270 --> 00:54:15.619 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and in the worst circumstances you still find the energy to go on pouring yourself out. That is a wonderful holy discovery. Yeah, yeah. And and it it doesn't have to be every single cause. I mean, this is one of the wonderful revelations for myself was
00:54:15.720 --> 00:54:28.479 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: when I could see, like people supporting a certain cause. And I'm like, it's a beautiful cause. I'd love to support it, but that it doesn't call to me. But then something else did. And so that's where I put my energy.
00:54:28.720 --> 00:54:47.669 Andrew Harvey: Well, you could see the love force, if you like that's trying to change this, as the Tibetans represent the Buddha of compassion with a thousand 1,000 hands reaching out. Truth is that all of these tragic crises are interconnected. They're interconnected through our
00:54:48.110 --> 00:54:49.630 Andrew Harvey: lack of
00:54:49.770 --> 00:55:18.359 Andrew Harvey: sacred connection. They're all expressions of our separation. Hubristic self obsessed, narcissistic consciousness. The consciousness is dying. And is going to be supplanted by a much more divine consciousness. So when you realize that you realize that in whatever cause you support is linked to all the others, and that your duty is to be one of those hands of the force of love reaching out.
00:55:18.360 --> 00:55:32.599 Andrew Harvey: and when all of us claim our own inmost, most profound heartbreak and act on it will be acting in secret, majestic concert with all of the others, to heal
00:55:32.810 --> 00:55:36.650 Andrew Harvey: the sources of this catastrophe.
00:55:36.850 --> 00:55:43.210 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Beautiful, beautiful real quickly. We just got a couple of minutes left Institute for Sacred Activism.
00:55:43.670 --> 00:55:58.839 Andrew Harvey: The Institute for Sacred Activism is really a name for the whole of my enterprise. And if you go into my website, Andrew harvey.net, I think.com. You'll see that I offer a whole lot of different
00:55:58.940 --> 00:56:18.020 Andrew Harvey: approaches different classes. I've written a book called The Hope, in which you'll get everything that I can offer you about how you train to become a sacred activist, how once you've chosen, what you're going to do, you really train your whole being to be strong enough to continue to do it.
00:56:18.400 --> 00:56:21.320 Andrew Harvey: And the Institute is.
00:56:21.560 --> 00:56:40.310 Andrew Harvey: provides different classes, different possibilities, different modalities, so that if you plunge in and have a look at what I'm doing, I'm sure there'll be something there that will really relate to you that you can use in your own life to make your ordinary life extraordinary.
00:56:41.860 --> 00:56:44.419 One last question, and then we have to end it.
00:56:44.560 --> 00:56:53.059 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Has there ever been a global crisis like this before? Not in recorded history, but before recorded history?
00:56:54.250 --> 00:57:04.660 Andrew Harvey: I don't know. There are some evolutionary mystics who say that we've been at this juncture 6 times before, but that since the seventh, so they've been
00:57:04.800 --> 00:57:07.919 Andrew Harvey: advanced civilizations which have vanished and have
00:57:08.330 --> 00:57:32.659 Andrew Harvey: committed suicide like Atlantis by the crazy stuff it got up to, which invited the catastrophe. This is the seventh time, and apparently this is the most serious time, because the powers that we have of destruction are now immense. But the good news is that. And please think deeply about this, because it contains revelation.
00:57:32.740 --> 00:57:51.370 Andrew Harvey: If we are powerful enough to destroy. As it's quite clear we are powerful enough to destroy this entire experiment. then we must also potentially be powerful enough to recreate, rebuild, refashion, reform in.
00:57:51.550 --> 00:57:52.959 Andrew Harvey: And the key.
00:57:53.000 --> 00:58:08.109 Andrew Harvey: So that shift is to realize that power that we now need isn't the power of our human mind and human heart and human dogmas and human concepts. It's the
00:58:08.430 --> 00:58:19.580 raw, pure, glorious, divine power that is our deepest secret and our deepest essence, because that's the real power.
00:58:19.690 --> 00:58:24.359 And when we align ourselves in humility and compassion
00:58:24.640 --> 00:58:36.570 Andrew Harvey: with that power and become its agent, miracles, what we call miracles are possible absolutely, absolutely.
00:58:36.630 --> 00:59:01.090 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Andrew, thank you so much for taking the time to come on the show today. I truly appreciate you. His book again. Radical regeneration with Carolyn Baker. And you can find out more about his work@andrewharvey.net, Andrew. Thank you so much, and thank you. Thank you for doing work you do, pouring your heart out so wisely. Thank you.
00:59:01.090 --> 00:59:30.459 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Oh, my pleasure, my pleasure! It's my calling! Thank you to all who are listening. God bless you! Don't lose heart now. This is the time to find joy, living it and act on it with everything you are, and you'll see you will be changed. Yes, and I see, Sonia says, on the live stream, my fascination with trees, animals keeps me grounded with my nature connectedness. I feel drawn to people this way, beautiful Sonia.
00:59:30.950 --> 00:59:35.869 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: that's exactly the point. Nature always always draws us to our center.
00:59:36.100 --> 00:59:42.570 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Well, thank you, Andrew, thank you, my loyal listeners.
00:59:42.570 --> 01:00:03.209 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: please remember if you missed any part of the show, you can always catch the replay on talk radio down Nyc and on all the major podcasting platforms and on all the major social channels. And thank you for tuning in. Don't forget Frank Harrison in his show, Frank, about health at 5 pm. Today and our Friday block of shows starting at 10 Am. Tomorrow
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