WHAT WILL THE AUDIENCE LEARN?
The audience will gain perspective o what diversity, equity, inclusion, and belonging mean from an academic perspective.
EPISODE SUMMARY:
In 2020 after the murder of George Floyd, there was an uptick in conversation about diversity, equity, inclusion, and belonging. Organizations, corporations, and academic institutions were taking a look at the ways in which they engaged with black indigenous people of color. In some cases, policies that had been in place for years were taken more seriously, and significant changes were made to address inequities. In other cases, actions were only performative in nature. Moreover, an emphasis on the needs of people who are black and brown sparked fear and a scarcity mentality in many folks. We have witnessed policies, designed to promoted equity, overturned.
Join Rev. Dr. TLC and Dr. Calvin Hill, Vice President for Inclusion and Community Engagement at Springfield College, as they discuss what has changed in the world of diversity, equity, inclusion, and belonging. Listen in to hear how the Supreme Courts' recent ruling on affirmative action will impact potential students.
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Rev. Dr. TLC begins the show with a guided meditation before jumping into today’s discussion. She introduces topics that include diversity, inclusion, and belonging. Rev. Dr. TLC praises HBCUs and Howard University in particular because of the opportunities they give people of color. HBCUs were created when black people were not allowed in academic spaces due to racism. Rev. Dr.TLC informs her listeners why Affirmative Action was set in place in the workplace and soon after in colleges and universities.
Rev. Dr. TLC welcomes her guest Dr. Calvin Hill. They both attended Howard University and are fellow bison. Rev. Dr. TLC continues to praise HBCUs and share her experience attending Howard University. She points out a pattern of children not celebrating their acceptance at HBCUs but celebrating their acceptance at Ivy League. We tend to think white institutions are superior to black institutions. Dr. Hill explains diversity, inclusion, equity, and belonging in a college setting. Rev. Dr. TLC asks Dr. Hill what are some of the methods that are being used to make students feel included and like they belong.
Rev. Dr. TLC asks Dr. Hill about his personal growth as he is an individual who is in charge of leading a community on inclusion and belonging. Dr. Hill admits that this wasn’t the topic of discussion growing up. He explains that it was a process of growth that was helped by his educational institutions. Rev. Dr. TLC explains that when you engage in the work of dismantling racism, it actually broadens your perspective for other groups. It helps you operate through a different lens. Rev. Dr. TLC asks Dr. Hill what has been the conversation at Springfield College since the Supreme Court decided not to use race as the standard of admissions.
Rev. Dr. TLC and Dr. Hill point out that there are people who are going to lose out because of Affirmative Action. Rev. Dr. TLC asks Dr. Hill what are some specific groups that will lose out besides the black community. Communities with less representation in higher education spaces are going to miss out. Rev. Dr. TLC talks about the term “community.” What happens to one person affects us all. They discuss the programs that Dr. Hill offers and the follow-up process that continues the operation. Dr. Hill explains how he supports students at his college. Rev. Dr. TLC asks Dr. Hill why a student should come to Springfield College. If you would like to get in contact with Dr. Hill, you can reach him at CHill@Springfield.edu.
00:00:39.430 --> 00:00:59.739 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: good morning and welcome to the dismantle racism show. I'm your host. The Reverend Dr. Tlc. The goal of our show is to uncover, eradicate and to dismantle racism. I'm so excited that you are here with me today. I really appreciate those of you who tune in
00:00:59.870 --> 00:01:22.309 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: to the show. If this is your first time, welcome to the show. If you've been listening for for it since the beginning, I'm so appreciative of you, or any time you take a moment to listen to this show. I appreciate you. I appreciate the work that you are doing out in the world to dismantle racism. I want to invite you. If you've not done so already.
00:01:22.620 --> 00:01:47.139 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: to please, subscribe to the show to share the show with a friend. Tell them all about it. Listen to us on talk radio in Yc, you can listen to us on any of the your streaming platforms and subscribe on those platforms as well, I want to also just remind you, if you've not done so, to pick up a copy of my book, dismantling Racism.
00:01:47.140 --> 00:01:53.169 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: healing separation from the inside out because the work starts with us.
00:01:53.460 --> 00:02:17.850 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: So I want to encourage you to please do all that you can to support yourself and to undergird yourself as you are doing this work because it is demanding work, and it takes a lot out of us, and we need all the support we can get. And so my book is one way of showing you how to do that, and one way of showing you how to examine yourself in order to do this work.
00:02:19.010 --> 00:02:34.729 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: I once began the show, as I always do, by inviting you, if you would. So please take a moment just to center yourself and to close your eyes, and I'm going to give you 1 s to do that before we begin our medic.
00:02:45.760 --> 00:02:50.590 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: Now, as you're centering yourself, I want to invite you to begin to breathe in
00:02:51.900 --> 00:02:53.300 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: and out.
00:02:54.340 --> 00:02:56.619 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: just connecting with your breath.
00:02:58.000 --> 00:03:01.410 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: taking a really deep breath in and holding it.
00:03:02.610 --> 00:03:05.269 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: and then releasing it very slowly
00:03:07.790 --> 00:03:13.140 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: again, taking another deep breath in folding it
00:03:14.480 --> 00:03:16.460 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: and releasing it slowly.
00:03:18.430 --> 00:03:21.989 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: and now just began to breathe with your normal rhythm.
00:03:23.170 --> 00:03:30.409 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: and recognize that your breath is a sign of the Divine wisdom
00:03:30.500 --> 00:03:36.050 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: that lives inside of you. It is sign of your sacred intelligence.
00:03:36.730 --> 00:03:43.110 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: which is that part of you that prompts you to make intelligent choices
00:03:43.700 --> 00:03:47.310 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: that will manifest your greatness
00:03:48.180 --> 00:03:51.029 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: while manifesting the greatness of others.
00:03:52.860 --> 00:03:56.640 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: So be in 2 with your sacred intelligence
00:03:57.300 --> 00:03:58.959 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: that guide.
00:04:00.090 --> 00:04:06.240 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: that shows up and tells you what to say. how to say it, and when to say it.
00:04:07.690 --> 00:04:21.360 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: Your breath is a reminder to center yourself and to stay in that sacred place during difficult conversations. difficult decisions.
00:04:21.630 --> 00:04:23.650 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: When the emotions are high.
00:04:25.130 --> 00:04:29.679 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: your breath reminds you to try to stay rational
00:04:31.520 --> 00:04:33.960 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: and to scan the environment.
00:04:35.440 --> 00:04:38.170 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: to consider your options.
00:04:40.210 --> 00:04:42.550 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: Your breath reminds you
00:04:43.190 --> 00:04:46.680 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: that if you are going to manifest your greatness
00:04:48.880 --> 00:04:53.649 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: you will refrain from taking anything personally.
00:04:54.970 --> 00:04:57.810 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: and we'll just be mindful of the moment.
00:05:00.750 --> 00:05:06.710 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: mindful of how you are to show up in that particular situation.
00:05:09.760 --> 00:05:12.520 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: If you are having a difficult conversation.
00:05:14.120 --> 00:05:20.740 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: you do not take it personally what the other person is saying. because you are grounded.
00:05:21.920 --> 00:05:26.670 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: you are centered. You are mindful
00:05:27.680 --> 00:05:31.490 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: because your breath is your power.
00:05:33.220 --> 00:05:35.290 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: your divine wisdom.
00:05:37.120 --> 00:05:39.809 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: your sacred intelligence.
00:05:41.000 --> 00:05:45.140 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: your ability to stay in control.
00:05:47.350 --> 00:05:51.730 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: your ability to make good decisions.
00:05:54.090 --> 00:05:57.600 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: so just breathe in and out.
00:05:59.190 --> 00:06:03.059 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: connecting with all of your power.
00:06:05.870 --> 00:06:08.409 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: giving gratitude for your power.
00:06:09.410 --> 00:06:11.070 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: your divine wisdom.
00:06:11.490 --> 00:06:13.920 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: your sacred intelligence.
00:06:16.620 --> 00:06:20.860 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: Take another moment to breathe in there and out.
00:06:21.880 --> 00:06:28.020 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: recognizing that the power of one is the power of the community.
00:06:28.930 --> 00:06:33.300 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: and you have the ability to change the status quo.
00:06:36.360 --> 00:06:38.870 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: So take one more deep breath in
00:06:40.300 --> 00:06:49.409 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: and blow it out slowly. and we say, and so it is. I say. and on that.
00:06:51.860 --> 00:07:00.190 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: and I want to invite you. If you've not already done so, you can get a copy of my Meditations
00:07:00.430 --> 00:07:29.869 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: on any platform that you stream. Those meditations are connected with my book, Sacred Intel. not my Sacred Intelligence Book, but my book on Dismantling Racism, but the meditations themselves are really good for grounding you for other things as well. So just go on and take a listen, and you might find something that you quite enjoy. There's music that's added to the meditations, and they're much longer than what I do here. So I want to invite you
00:07:29.950 --> 00:07:33.140 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: to go to your favorite platform and pick those up
00:07:33.530 --> 00:07:58.100 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: today on our show. We are going to be talking about diversity, inclusion, and belonging now for those of you who are watching the show, you will see that I have on my Howard University alumni shirt, and I wear it not because we are the number one. Hbc, you I wear it because, historically.
00:07:58.410 --> 00:08:21.990 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: black. historically, people of color. Black people in particular, were not allowed to be admitted to certain institutions, and so Hbc. Use reform historically, black colleges and universities. They were formed in the nineteenth century, in order to provide opportunities for us to be able to attend
00:08:22.020 --> 00:08:25.069 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: private and public institutions.
00:08:26.260 --> 00:08:31.749 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: When we were allowed to attend private and public institutions.
00:08:31.980 --> 00:08:49.290 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: We were often not admitted to those places for a number of reasons, but mainly because of racism. There would be an excuse for why we were not admitted, not because we are not smart enough, because if you look at the people who've come out of Hbc use
00:08:49.290 --> 00:09:08.079 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: historically. And presently we are doing some dynamic things, and much of the world's contributions are because of people who have gone to Hbc. Use just like they are any other universities. And so there's there's a reason why
00:09:08.320 --> 00:09:11.910 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: you've heard we talk about Hbc. Use, because
00:09:12.180 --> 00:09:25.549 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: one, it is a place where we put out stellar individuals highly competent individuals. And one of the things that I want to say about an Hbc. You is this.
00:09:25.550 --> 00:09:49.079 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: because it really? And Dr. Hill, and I was my guess. I'm sure we'll get into this a little bit. But one of the things that really concerns me often is how much. We tout the predominantly white institutions where we consider the top 10 ones, and we don't take a look at the Hbc. Use when, in fact, it's almost harder to get into those colleges and universities than
00:09:49.160 --> 00:09:56.670 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: the others on some level. But I don't want to go there just yet. I want to talk about
00:09:56.860 --> 00:10:07.670 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: how it is been detrimental for us to get into some of those other institutions because of racism, not because of ability.
00:10:07.690 --> 00:10:28.220 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: but because of racism. So when we talk about the institution of affirmative action which came about in 1,965 in general for the workplace, and then a little bit later for colleges and universities, we're talking about a policy that was put into place so that
00:10:28.520 --> 00:10:38.780 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: individuals who are under representative maybe that's based on color. Maybe it's based on class. Maybe it's based on gender or disability or ability.
00:10:39.030 --> 00:10:53.150 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: And so affirmative action was put into place so that we could level the playing field at those institutions and in the workforce, so that we may have an equal opportunity
00:10:53.190 --> 00:11:12.429 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: to be admitted to those places. So affirmative action doesn't admit unqualified students to colleges and universities. It ensures that qualified students will be admitted. And that's the difference. And often when there's this conversation around affirmative action, people say
00:11:12.830 --> 00:11:32.960 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: they allowed those students to enter in. I've had people to look me in my face. White people, let's be clear and say to me. well, I don't understand why my daughter didn't get accepted to X. Y and Z. University university, and they let all those black kids in. And I'm office. And this
00:11:33.230 --> 00:11:41.000 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: to this person, I'm thinking, do you know that I'm black? What are you actually saying here that we don't deserve to be in those places
00:11:41.110 --> 00:11:47.239 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: we deserve to be in those places. But we don't have equal access to those places.
00:11:48.180 --> 00:11:58.460 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: That's what affirmative action is about. We're going to be talking about that today we're going to be talking about. What does it mean when we say diversity, inclusion.
00:11:58.540 --> 00:12:03.880 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: equity, and belonging? What exactly, is that all about?
00:12:04.600 --> 00:12:15.619 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: And I'm sure we'll be talking about historically, black colleges and universities as well in the process. Why, there's still a need for such universities.
00:12:16.810 --> 00:12:43.599 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: I'm delighted to welcome when we come back from the break. My guests, Dr. Calvin Hill, Dr. Calvin Hill is the the Vice President of Diversity, equity and inclusion. Now there's another title for it that I'm not saying exactly right, but he is the Vice President of inclusion and community. But I I believe, at at Springfield College. You'll correct me Dr. Heel when you come on.
00:12:43.780 --> 00:13:01.089 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: But here's what I want to say. One of the things that I am most proud of being associated with this brother is that he has a Phd. From Howard University, my Alma Mater. So I really am just delighted to welcome him because he is a fellow Bison, but
00:13:01.260 --> 00:13:18.810 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: he has an extensive resume for all of the academic work that he has done. again, he is at Springfield College right now. He has been there since. 2,015 is when he joined that organization.
00:13:18.810 --> 00:13:35.959 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: and I'm so so delighted to welcome after the great, the Vice President for inclusion and community engagement. Doctor Calvin Hill. This is the dispensal racism show. I'm your host, the Reverend Dr. Tlc. We will be right back.
00:15:50.600 --> 00:15:54.560 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: We're back with a dismantle racism. Show
00:15:54.670 --> 00:16:00.090 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: Dr. Hill. Welcome, welcome, welcome! I'm so glad you're with me this morning.
00:16:00.420 --> 00:16:03.710 Calvin Hill (He/Him/His): hey? He, Dr. To you, so I always get to be on with the fellow Bison.
00:16:04.100 --> 00:16:06.150 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: I know. Isn't it great?
00:16:07.800 --> 00:16:09.100 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: Listen.
00:16:09.130 --> 00:16:37.690 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: you know I can't say enough about going to an Hbc. You. It is such a wonderful, wonderful experience and a lot of times. Folks don't understand what that experience is all about. They don't understand why we, in fact, need to have our own schools and institutions, and had it not been for racism, perhaps we, we would not have known how great it is to go to an Hbc. You. And so
00:16:37.860 --> 00:16:51.440 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: anytime I get to tout one. I certainly want to do that, and you know again, as you heard me say in this segment, I am, I am, or maybe I didn't actually say this, but was thinking it.
00:16:51.600 --> 00:16:58.890 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: You know this is the season. About a month ago, where all the students were talking about all of the schools that they got into.
00:16:59.050 --> 00:17:05.330 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: and often we would see students saying, I got into all of the top Ivs.
00:17:05.400 --> 00:17:12.630 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: But rarely do you see students saying, I got into all of the top. you know, Hbc use.
00:17:13.190 --> 00:17:20.129 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: And one of the reasons that we don't do that is because we tend to think of those schools as being better. But, as I was saying
00:17:20.240 --> 00:17:31.940 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: in my introduction, it's actually a bit more competitive to get into the Hbc. Use. I know my daughter, who goes to Spelman College, was one
00:17:31.940 --> 00:17:52.049 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: of 600 and something students who got in out of 9,000 applicants. That's a pretty tight and rigid competition there. And so there is much value in going to Hbc use and then go into college period, and not everyone has access to it.
00:17:52.210 --> 00:17:53.220 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: So
00:17:53.300 --> 00:18:09.629 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: you are the vice president of an inclusion and community engagement. you. Your work is around diversity, equity, and inclusion, and belonging. Talk to us a bit about what exactly does that mean from a college
00:18:09.660 --> 00:18:11.050 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: perspective?
00:18:11.200 --> 00:18:24.399 Calvin Hill (He/Him/His): How do we engage in that work? And what does it mean to students.
00:18:24.400 --> 00:18:45.389 Calvin Hill (He/Him/His): Our students are going to be interacting with people that look different from themselves at different partners in themselves, and work with differently. So what better place than a college university campus to make sure that our students are engaged in complex and difficult dialogue engage curriculum. This design help them to understand the other, so that when they go into the world of work they've got the opportunity there
00:18:45.390 --> 00:19:06.150 Calvin Hill (He/Him/His): to not make mistakes, that you know. Perhaps they may. You know at the K 12 level, or perhaps early on in their college environments. but they're going to be better prepared to engage with people, you know. So one of where I am, you know, diversity I put an in in belonging really is about providing people with an opportunity to engage with people that are different from themselves.
00:19:06.150 --> 00:19:25.719 Calvin Hill (He/Him/His): so that we can make sure that it's our students graduate especially when we think about the mission for college in terms of leadership and service to others. They're really going to be able to serve others in a more what you know. And and that's what we focus on. And that's what I think we would be better sure to think about. as we look at this whole process around the nation.
00:19:25.910 --> 00:19:30.749 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: so you just said something really important. And you said service
00:19:31.390 --> 00:19:43.089 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: because your college focuses on service. But there are lots of colleges. Their thing is about corporation and making the most money, and we know that at many colleges
00:19:43.110 --> 00:19:49.210 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: we are even looking at, not just racially. But we're looking at an economic spread.
00:19:49.300 --> 00:19:53.040 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: And so what would you say to those colleges
00:19:53.140 --> 00:20:00.729 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: where many of those people get out and they are at the in the corporate, and they are at the top people, and many of them
00:20:00.920 --> 00:20:30.709 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: are, are predominantly white in those institutions. What would you say to them about their need to become more comfortable with working with a diverse group of people, because for some of them I know when I taught at a local college here, Connecticut college private institution, many of those students had never seen a a of color, and a black person in particular before they came to college. So what about what would you say to those people whose world is primarily.
00:20:30.920 --> 00:20:46.409 Calvin Hill (He/Him/His): Yeah, you know, I would say that the value again I spoke about the demographic ships that are happening in our country. and I think from the Fortune 500 companies all the way down to, you know, small mom and pop shops. They've got to understand that their consumers are gonna look different.
00:20:46.410 --> 00:21:05.320 Calvin Hill (He/Him/His): you know, and what better place than a college environment to make sure that we're preparing? You know those people that are going to run these fortune? 500 companies are going to be management, these 4 to 500 companies for their own. Some of these modern pop shops to be able to welcome universal backgrounds in, you know, because you want to make sure that they're able to purchase.
00:21:05.320 --> 00:21:28.759 Calvin Hill (He/Him/His): you know, in Central Massachusetts. And we would always talk about the value of diversity around thought. You know, you know, that some place like internal motors, or for to build a great vehicle, but they they bring different perspectives to the table. You know, they're going to be able to provide a vehicle that's going to accommodate a soccer. Mom. Soccer day.
00:21:28.780 --> 00:21:30.700 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: Yeah.
00:21:30.860 --> 00:21:49.230 Calvin Hill (He/Him/His): So they're gonna bring different thought process to the table. So, having conversations here, you know, at the college environment, it's got a better serve our individuals that are going out into these fortune, 500 companies into these modern pop stores to better serve the
00:21:49.820 --> 00:22:10.030 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: so the bottom line is, is is valuable even from an economic place, the company to be a bit more diverse so that they can hear new ideas. I I've given this example I know on the show before. But I believe it was Rath Lauren, you know, when, during the whole uprising of
00:22:10.030 --> 00:22:23.220 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: you know, with George Floyd and the conversation that was happening, one of his black execs started talking about fashion, and he started listening to what that black exec said.
00:22:23.240 --> 00:22:26.639 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: And guess what? There's a whole line, particularly
00:22:26.860 --> 00:22:39.840 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: for Morehouse and Spellman. There is a whole line that Ralph Lauren did because of that now that benefited Ralph Lauren, but it also made individuals who are black
00:22:40.280 --> 00:22:49.150 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: feel noticed and seeing so that when you're going to spend your money like oh, this is a company that really cares. And and I got the sense
00:22:49.310 --> 00:22:55.489 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: that, he said, I want to listen to you, and I want to hear you. It wasn't performative.
00:22:55.630 --> 00:22:58.070 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: which is something else that I've found.
00:22:58.110 --> 00:23:10.829 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: That's happened, that a lot of things are performative, but and I can go there as well. But I want to ask you in particular, what are some of the things that you are doing at your school to make students
00:23:10.920 --> 00:23:17.220 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: and faculty as well, because I'm sure you're looking at the whole community. What are you doing to make them
00:23:17.310 --> 00:23:19.910 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: feel like they belong in our include it.
00:23:20.170 --> 00:23:36.979 Calvin Hill (He/Him/His): Well, I think you talked about you know those things that we're we should be thinking about, you know, and and belonging to me is really about a space where you feel welcome, you know. And one of the things that we understand is that, you know, we've got some 4,500 calling.
00:23:37.150 --> 00:24:06.030 Calvin Hill (He/Him/His): and if the student doesn't feel like they belong, they're going to go somewhere else. So we climate on campus where our students that collected along some of that climate is curriculum. We want to make sure that we've got a curriculum that mirrors their experience where they're hearing about. And they're learning about people that near their background. you talk about being a fact. The number at a Pwi family wide institution, you know, we want to make sure that we've got faculty members that mirror the different brackets of the change to the population that's going to be coming to this
00:24:06.030 --> 00:24:24.050 Calvin Hill (He/Him/His): because we understand that if you're at a qwi, you're a a majority student and you've never had a faculty of color. You're going to leave without perhaps the first to get thought that that person brings in table. On the other hand, if you're student of color at a pwi, you're going to benefit.
00:24:24.050 --> 00:24:34.540 Calvin Hill (He/Him/His): because you're gonna have that sense of belonging to connection to back to the member based on what they're bringing to the table, as well as the perhaps the content that they're bringing into the classroom.
00:24:34.540 --> 00:25:00.789 Calvin Hill (He/Him/His): and above and beyond the curriculum. We've got to make sure that our climate is conducive, you know, to make sure that I find it is because I recognize you you talked about. Are we listening people? Are we hearing from people? But the other part we've got to see, you know. So here on campus, you know, we are making sure that our LGBT students feel, you know, as if their voices are heard or seen across campus, our by Pop students, our students that are international as well as our students
00:25:00.790 --> 00:25:13.520 Calvin Hill (He/Him/His): from various States. For this they are represented. We've got to make sure that they are seeing we've got to make sure that their voices are heard. And if we do that, and I think the college can do that. That's where that value.
00:25:13.560 --> 00:25:25.729 Calvin Hill (He/Him/His): Our students can be much better prepared to engage with one another, and they're going to be much better prepared to go out into the world after their 4 years, and they're 6 years as a
00:25:25.750 --> 00:25:34.330 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: hmm. So I so 2 follow up questions. And what is the demographic, you know, demographic of your school, and
00:25:34.780 --> 00:25:37.110 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: tell me a little bit about how
00:25:37.180 --> 00:25:40.600 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: and staff are trained
00:25:40.730 --> 00:25:47.400 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: in ways to you know, enhance diversity, equity and inclusion.
00:25:47.580 --> 00:26:13.809 Calvin Hill (He/Him/His): Absolutely. we are about 20% by, you know, by pop, this black, indigenous people of color. So about 20% of our our students are individuals that come in from those underrepresented backgrounds, our faculty populations a little less. We're probably somewhere around 11%. You know, our faculty and staff are prepared
00:26:13.810 --> 00:26:38.840 Calvin Hill (He/Him/His): to welcome this team to, you know. So part of that is, we do a lot of of I hate the terms training but we do a lot of programs and educational opportunities on campus. As a matter of fact, you had an opportunity to come to campus and our faculty and staff, you know, because we want to have conversations on what are micro regions. We understand that you know when our students are are
00:26:38.840 --> 00:26:45.790 Calvin Hill (He/Him/His): being victimized by micro regression. It's gonna make them feel like they don't belong, you know.
00:26:45.810 --> 00:27:14.219 Calvin Hill (He/Him/His): gender in the classroom. It's gonna make it feel like they do not belong. And we're not using right pronouns, you know. All of those things are things that we need to do, you know. So we've got to educate our faculty and staff to be able to engage with this change in the bracket, you know. So part of that is an online model that we do immediately on higher and then maybe get a chance to. You know, update that every 3, 4 years we then have opportunities over the course of the year to have
00:27:14.220 --> 00:27:26.840 Calvin Hill (He/Him/His): you know what I call, you know again, these workshops that take place that are voluntary
00:27:26.840 --> 00:27:35.220 Calvin Hill (He/Him/His): bias again, for now usage so that we can make sure that our faculty and staff are engaging with
00:27:35.220 --> 00:27:58.479 Calvin Hill (He/Him/His): the the concepts, the terminology, and so forth, that students. They are quite frankly prepared and accustomed to having conversations on. And again, because there are so many common universities in the country, we want to make sure that we are the space where the students chooses to be based on the fact that they feel like they belong and part of belonging is making sure that we're engaging students the way that they would choose to be in.
00:27:58.540 --> 00:28:07.210 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: You know what I love you. You said you said it twice. You've made a note that that basically students can choose to go anywhere.
00:28:07.620 --> 00:28:31.419 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: But you want to make it a place where they feel welcomed, and and that this is the place that they're going to choose. And often when schools get into like this ego space of well, every student wants to come here. Sometimes the attention is not paid to those students. You know that that is necessary. And so I love that you keep saying
00:28:31.420 --> 00:28:47.969 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: they could. They choose to come here. Basically it's a privilege that they're coming to our school. And when you have that kind of attitude, you're going to reach out a little bit more to them. There's lots more I want to discuss with you, and when we come back, Dr. Hill As you were talking.
00:28:47.980 --> 00:29:00.549 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: I thought about the work you personally are engaging in. And so in dismantling racism, I always talk about healing separation from the inside out. When we come back I want to hear a little bit about how you yourself.
00:29:00.930 --> 00:29:15.079 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: how you've grown in, who you are as a person, as you've led the charge to be more inclusive on so many different levels. Because I find that just because we're doing this work.
00:29:15.570 --> 00:29:33.759 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: we don't know at all. And we are challenged all the time to keep growing and growing. So when we come back I want to hear a little bit more about that from you. We'll be right back with Dr. Calvin Hill, who is the Vice President of Inclusion, and in community engagement at Springfield College will be right back
00:31:35.930 --> 00:32:01.020 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: We're back with the dismantle racism show. I've been talking with Dr. Hill, and before the breakdown he'll you know, as you were describing the really, the programming that you all do not the training. I love that the programming that you do, the, the, the decision for each individual to choose to come to some of the the offerings that you have. Tell me a little bit about
00:32:01.040 --> 00:32:12.899 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: just what's what's some of your personal growth as an individual who's charged with leading a community on inclusion and equity and belonging.
00:32:13.330 --> 00:32:34.959 Calvin Hill (He/Him/His): Yeah, absolutely well. I would say that for those of us of a certain age we grew up not surely thinking about diversity as broadly as we do today. So I would say for me it was a process of growth, and I think my educational institutions definitely help with that. when I was at in port of State University. You know my definition of diversity change from what I had as an undergraduate
00:32:34.960 --> 00:32:59.629 Calvin Hill (He/Him/His): to one that expanded, based on the fact that I was working in a trio program where we talk about not just simply race. But we also talked about a disability and also talked about, you know class, you know. So that helped me going to Howard University. You know how university as a historical black college the fact that you're at an Hpc. You. But the fact that those students of color at the Hbc. Come from such a
00:32:59.630 --> 00:33:05.830 Calvin Hill (He/Him/His): broad democratic, you know, from Urban to rural suburban from various countries.
00:33:05.830 --> 00:33:30.220 Calvin Hill (He/Him/His): you know, was very helpful as well. and then up and beyond that, you know, we've got to educate ourselves. You know, we've definitely got to read and definitely, that'll engage and learn about the fact that you know there are very space positions that are around us. you know, there was also the opportunity to engage with our lived experience, you know. My brother came out at about 17 and 18 years of age.
00:33:30.220 --> 00:33:59.659 Calvin Hill (He/Him/His): So having to learn about the Lgbtq community because I want to make sure that my brother has a space in the world where he feels that he belongs. So I think, in addition to obviously what we can do from an educational standpoint, you know, there's also what we choose to do, because we want to support those that we love. You know, from a disability perspective. By these you know, as an individual that I love dearly just celebrate the birthday yesterday, but wanted to make sure that she is engaged. My brother's engaged
00:33:59.660 --> 00:34:13.109 Calvin Hill (He/Him/His): as well as the post, so I would say that my growth process was really not just simply about education, but it was also looking from within and making sure that I was contributing to a world where other people were going to feel as if they were validated.
00:34:13.219 --> 00:34:33.599 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: And I I would concur as a person who's out there talking about racism all the time I am. I am always learning and always really examining myself when I'm making a choice. Now wait a minute. I'm making this choice. How am I perpetuating racism? Because sometimes we do it, you know, unintentionally.
00:34:33.670 --> 00:35:02.110 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: and then how am I speaking out against it? But what I'm also finding is it absolutely makes me more into with other individuals who are marginalized, and one of the ways in which I learn, and I'm sure you have this experience. I learned through my children and other young people so often. There's a conversation that we have particularly around gender
00:35:02.110 --> 00:35:13.970 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: and sexuality, and as a person of a certain age like you say, you know just the transition from using certain language. I'm grateful to be around younger people
00:35:14.030 --> 00:35:26.870 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: who who are many who are native to the language. and people who are saying unlike we might have done in our lifetime, or, you know, back when we were younger. They don't have any bones about saying mom.
00:35:27.210 --> 00:35:53.590 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: Dr. Kore Avery, or whatever, because I have an open experience and open heart where I want you to correct me if I'm saying something wrong. So what I'm trying to say for for our listeners here is when you engage in the work of dismantling racism. It actually broads your perspective for other groups as well, because you're able to look through different lens. And you're able to say.
00:35:54.290 --> 00:36:00.430 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: Well, if this is happening to me because of race, what might it be like for the other person?
00:36:00.530 --> 00:36:04.090 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: But I think the other thing that it does as well
00:36:04.390 --> 00:36:32.730 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: for me is, it opens my eyes even when I think about, just from the black and brown perspective where I think about for people who don't speak the language, what it's like, I I recently had an opportunity to visit my daughter in Japan, and I was thinking about the fact that I don't speak Japanese thankfully. She speaks well enough to get us through where we had to go. But I thought about here. I am trying to navigate an into our system.
00:36:33.910 --> 00:36:37.419 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: What must it be like for those people who come here
00:36:37.610 --> 00:36:45.619 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: and live and struggle, and yet they are not treated with humanity oftentimes.
00:36:45.720 --> 00:36:51.429 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: So I find that this work has brought in my my perspective tremendously.
00:36:51.870 --> 00:36:55.839 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: I I'd love for you to talk a little bit around
00:36:56.970 --> 00:37:01.430 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: You know this affirmative action, which was instituted
00:37:01.510 --> 00:37:03.039 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: to give us
00:37:04.070 --> 00:37:11.949 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: a leg up with. Try it in a in ways I I say, a makeup actually is not even a makeup. It's about letting us in.
00:37:12.000 --> 00:37:13.839 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: That's really what it's about.
00:37:13.910 --> 00:37:32.229 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: because what people tend not to understand is that when we are admitted to a school, sometimes our standards of being admitted are a little bit higher, because the folks who are legacy. Their Gpa. In many spaces doesn't even have to be as high as a person who is coming from
00:37:32.420 --> 00:37:39.509 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: a marginalized group. And that's something people don't know and understand. But talk to me a little bit about.
00:37:39.690 --> 00:37:51.429 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: What has been the conversation at Springfield College since the Supreme Court. you know, made this decision to not use race as
00:37:51.480 --> 00:38:13.800 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: a form of it. I'm not articulating it very well in this moment, but to not use race as a standard for admissions. That's what I want to say.
00:38:13.800 --> 00:38:37.669 Calvin Hill (He/Him/His): you know, you know, somewhere between maybe a 20 to 30% emissions, right? You know, here at Springfield College. Our mission is probably closer to about 80 or so, you know, so I don't necessarily believe that we're going to be as negatively impact, you know, as perhaps the University of North Carolina and the Harvard that we're identified in the But one of the things we do know is that
00:38:37.910 --> 00:38:54.190 Calvin Hill (He/Him/His): We've got to continue to stay diligent, you know, in terms of that sense of belonging, you know, and that's where we focus our time and attention. My, my hope is that as we see institutions, you know. in Florida, perhaps in Texas and some other more conservative States.
00:38:54.190 --> 00:39:08.529 Calvin Hill (He/Him/His): really, take a deeper, harsher perspective on affirmative action. And, Dbi, if you're in some of the more northeast regions we're going to see more diversity time towards us because students are going to be choosing to go to institutions.
00:39:08.530 --> 00:39:27.390 Calvin Hill (He/Him/His): higher education where they feel like they belong. So that means that we gotta make sure that we're doing those things that we spoke about earlier in terms of of having a diverse workforce, that mirrors those students that are coming to it, so that when those students are here they see it themselves. They hear themselves, and they have that sense of bottom. We've got to make sure
00:39:27.390 --> 00:39:48.600 Calvin Hill (He/Him/His): we've got the resources available to them. You know, we've got a very active office here with staff members that are here to dedicate themselves to making sure that individuals feel that sense of belonging. we've got the Missions office that scours, you know, when we talk about affirmative action, you alluded to it earlier in terms of you know, we're getting qualified.
00:39:48.600 --> 00:40:04.189 Calvin Hill (He/Him/His): You know, we're not looking for individuals that are not qualified to attend the screen for college or Harvard, or or wherever they may be going. But we've got to do a little bit more, and in terms of looking for those apps, because this is not necessarily the
00:40:04.410 --> 00:40:05.280 Calvin Hill (He/Him/His): it's not
00:40:05.320 --> 00:40:29.770 Calvin Hill (He/Him/His): we are, you know. So by doing a little bit more outreach, you know, we're open to engage a more diverse, you know, student population that's going to be coming to us, you know. So I think we've got to do is keep our on the pros. We're looking at changes in graphics. We're looking at, you know, being the institution of the future, you know, when I created our diversity plan.
00:40:29.770 --> 00:40:41.739 Calvin Hill (He/Him/His): I call it the promise of tomorrow, because 2 very different from yesterday. on campus. I talk about Mayberry for those of again of a certain age.
00:40:41.740 --> 00:41:08.499 Calvin Hill (He/Him/His): and if you remember the Andy Griffith show you never saw individuals that were perhaps black or brown. You didn't see individuals with disabilities. You didn't. You're individuals that spoke with different language. But on any given Polish campus today, you cannot help but engage with people that are different from yourself. So we are not going back to May there, and I think for our more conservative legislators out there that are thinking about, you know.
00:41:08.660 --> 00:41:19.010 Calvin Hill (He/Him/His): locking down the United States. We've got to be more open because the reality is we are the most and the alluded to. I mean, students today
00:41:19.100 --> 00:41:36.580 Calvin Hill (He/Him/His): are demanding for one person. They are demanding improvement. That's gonna allow them to be better. And I think what we're seeing is we're seeing a generation that is trying to maintain the status quo and in essence they're hurting populations that are coming behind them.
00:41:36.690 --> 00:42:04.810 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: Yeah, you know, it's interesting. Well, you said quite a number of things in there. But you said some of those students who perhaps would have gone to. Those other schools will end up coming to your school. And so one of these institutions are losing out. They're losing out on some really really great students that they could have had if they don't engage in the outreach and the belonging. That is necessary. I know one of the things that's happened
00:42:05.080 --> 00:42:15.969 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: since 2,020. Actually, we've seen an uptick in the students who are applying to Hbc. Use, because before it was all about, let's go to these schools over here. But then
00:42:16.030 --> 00:42:32.330 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: something happened that they started. Well, we know what happened. But they're like, no, I'm gonna going to apply to the Hbc use, and a lot of them didn't get in. As I said. So, what we need to be paying attention to these schools need to be paying attention to what is the cost
00:42:32.490 --> 00:42:42.500 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: to us when our school is not diverse. So we know that economically there's a cost to, because some of these schools get funding based on
00:42:42.540 --> 00:42:55.299 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: whether they're allowing certain populations to enter into their school. So we know that there is a lot that's going to happen. as a result of that but 2. I love the fact that
00:42:55.440 --> 00:43:07.000 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: you really are talking about qualified students coming into your school. but I think that qualification also means. Sometimes we give students
00:43:07.430 --> 00:43:15.640 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: and the opportunity when perhaps they're qualified, but maybe their circumstances
00:43:16.870 --> 00:43:41.239 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: prevented them from from getting the quality education that they may have needed to have when they were coming through school. But you see something in those students to say, when you come here I can help you thrive, and when you get here I'm going to support you because one of the things that happens in these Pwis is that they will bring in first Gen. Students
00:43:42.190 --> 00:44:03.840 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: and those first Jin students don't have the support. They need to be successful in those schools. And I'm not just talking about academic. There's an emotional support that's needed. There's a social support that's needed a cultural support. And it sounds like what you're saying when you talk about belonging at your school because you've talked about all the different areas
00:44:04.330 --> 00:44:07.339 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: you are, including the whole thing.
00:44:07.780 --> 00:44:16.109 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: So when we come back we'll continue our conversation. a little bit on on this affirmative action, and
00:44:16.150 --> 00:44:21.320 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: and to be able to talk about who are the other groups
00:44:21.830 --> 00:44:42.960 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: who will suffer as a result of the Supreme Court's decision. So we're talking about race right now. But what will this look like as we continue to roll out? So we'll be right back with Dr. Hill to consent, continue our discussion on diversity, equity, inclusion, and belonging, as well as affirmative action.
00:46:47.810 --> 00:46:55.370 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: We're back with my guest, Dr. Hill. Dr. Hill. you know it's it's clear from our conversation today that
00:46:55.430 --> 00:47:07.040 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: there are people who are going to lose out because affirmative action and not just people of color, their schools who are going to lose out. But who are W. What are some of the
00:47:07.610 --> 00:47:13.289 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: or who are some of the other groups that will lose out from this decision?
00:47:13.580 --> 00:47:14.649 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: Oh, yeah.
00:47:14.740 --> 00:47:34.869 Calvin Hill (He/Him/His): you know one of the things that we know based on research is that low income white certain holds out, you know, because those individuals are not going to have access because they haven't had the prerequisite of, you know. Advanced placement courses. Things will find in the schools that they were at. Women are going to lose out. Women have been perhaps the best beneficiary of affirmative action in the United States.
00:47:34.870 --> 00:47:48.550 Calvin Hill (He/Him/His): So we understand that's an area. And then I think, if we look specifically at the Harvard lawsuit. You know where we saw that the individuals that were plaintiffs and that were Asians. we're going to see that the desperate within the Asian community is pretty broad, you know. So
00:47:48.550 --> 00:48:17.750 Calvin Hill (He/Him/His): we typically think of, you know, certain populations, you know, but we don't think about the Southeast Asian population among population being in this population. So some of those less represented in higher education spaces are going to be missing out, as well, you know. So this isn't just a a black and Latin next issue, you know, this is an issue, for you know,
00:48:17.790 --> 00:48:20.330 Calvin Hill (He/Him/His): diversification populations as well.
00:48:20.360 --> 00:48:21.400 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: Hmm.
00:48:21.440 --> 00:48:27.399 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: so it it just makes me think about this one word that's mentioned in in in
00:48:27.610 --> 00:48:34.140 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: your title. as well as when we talk about diversity, equity, inclusion, and belonging is this work community.
00:48:35.230 --> 00:48:50.399 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: And I think that is very important for us to realize that what happens to one person it actually impacts us all. And I think we're living in a time where people are really self absorbed and short-sighted.
00:48:50.570 --> 00:48:54.149 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: And all of these new things that have come down the pike.
00:48:54.440 --> 00:49:05.620 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: or are indications of people living in a scarcity mentality. And it's all about me, me, me, you know, my sister said many years ago that this country was rolling back.
00:49:05.780 --> 00:49:25.530 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: and it was hard to kind of see it, because we were just kind of going along with our head in the cloud, like, no, we've made these advances. But we've seen over the last few years how things have just really, really rolled back. And so I want to thank you all for the work that you're doing at Springfield College to really
00:49:25.870 --> 00:49:32.229 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: engage in helping students to feel like they belong.
00:49:32.330 --> 00:49:45.390 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: And what I've heard you talk about the type of programming is the follow up that you're doing with students as well. Right? So I I think it's probably not just that you're offering programs. But it seems like
00:49:45.760 --> 00:49:47.069 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: there's a
00:49:47.080 --> 00:50:02.790 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: a caring that happens with your students there, and I don't know if you want to talk more about what you do to support students, because I'd love to to hear you talk about that a little bit
00:50:02.790 --> 00:50:32.510 Calvin Hill (He/Him/His): and that staff follows up with students. You know, we have regular check-ins. we also have a pre orientation program and a mentor program designed to make sure that you know upper class students are designed to are here to make sure that they're supporting their their under class, you know. Classmates, you know. So it really is about a nurturing Karen campus environment. You know, where we understand the value of you as an individual. and we want to make sure that you know this is a place where you come, and you simply.
00:50:32.660 --> 00:50:53.780 Calvin Hill (He/Him/His): you really want to be a space where you really feel you belong. And as I think you think about, you know commonly mercy across the country you talked about the Howards of the world. But you know we also want to give a big shout out to members of their Hbc. My parents, for while he graduates in Marshall, Texas. And and we know that call universities change lives
00:50:53.780 --> 00:51:03.449 Calvin Hill (He/Him/His): So no matter where you go, you know, a college university can truly, change lives generation, you know, and that's something that's pretty important for us to think about.
00:51:03.500 --> 00:51:24.309 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: I I so appreciate you saying that, because, you know, really within the Hbc use is sort of like a running joke with with which Hbc. You is the best. But for me, one, any of them I I love. I love all Hbc. Use, but like you say, and I love that because of the belonging
00:51:24.410 --> 00:51:45.450 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: and because of the stellar education that we get. And because you actually don't have to think about race, there's a lot of other stuff you have to think about. But we, this country doesn't understand how significant the weight of racism is on us. So the value of going to an Hbc. You is like.
00:51:45.480 --> 00:51:55.289 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: you can just take that out now. It doesn't mean that we don't have our internalized racism, but that's a whole another show. But that's the value of it. But I want to just echo what you're saying.
00:51:55.340 --> 00:52:07.749 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: whether it's an Hbc. You, or whether it's just a college or university period. What we're doing is we're opening individuals up to a whole new world.
00:52:07.850 --> 00:52:12.090 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: So if a student chooses not to go to an Hbc. You
00:52:12.380 --> 00:52:27.660 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: just go and get educated any way that you can, and look for the school that's going to support you in that, because not every student is meant for an Hbc. You, not every student is meant for Pw. I.
00:52:27.940 --> 00:52:31.630 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: Not every student is meant for a 4 year. College like there. There's
00:52:31.870 --> 00:52:46.300 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: a plethora of you know, a, a, a experiences and qualities that you have to look for when you're applying to a school. So in our last few minutes here before we wrap up.
00:52:46.880 --> 00:52:47.769 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: tell me.
00:52:47.920 --> 00:53:13.780 Calvin Hill (He/Him/His): why should a student come to Springfield College. Oh, my goodness! You know, I think as we think about the concept of service to others, and I want to keep talking about that concept of service to others. I think when our students gradually they're prepared to engage in a world that's different from perhaps a little if they came into. And I think that's the difference. You know, our students are going to have a class
00:53:13.780 --> 00:53:27.739 Calvin Hill (He/Him/His): room that is taught by diverse faculty staff. They're gonna have a social and emotional experience that is designed to make sure that they're engaged across culturally. So I think those are some of the key benefits in addition to.
00:53:27.740 --> 00:53:54.889 Calvin Hill (He/Him/His): you know, obviously, everything else that goes into. You know, college university environment. But I think college is about getting engaged and getting involved. You know, we can do our best in terms of providing the opportunity for students not to engage. I believe that we're doing this limited service. So we've got to do anything in our power to make sure that we're doing outreach. So I would say that get involved wherever you go. I would love to see you. It's pretty cool. College, but wherever you are, just make sure that you're engaged in that.
00:53:55.100 --> 00:53:58.710 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: Hmm! So you had me at spirit minded body.
00:53:58.720 --> 00:54:02.679 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: that with your mission statement, because I think that is such a great
00:54:02.710 --> 00:54:31.240 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: mission, because it isn't just about the academics, but is is how you impact one spirit, and that could be from a religious place, or it could be just from like, if my spirit feels whole and well, I'm going to be engaged in the community. So I love that. So tell us, how can people get in touch with you if they wanted to meet with you directly or who should they contact at the University?
00:54:31.240 --> 00:54:49.460 Calvin Hill (He/Him/His): Dr. Tlc. I know that we go back and forth with who perhaps has the best nickname but not for chill So it's a a sea hill. It's Springfield that you you you! You can also reach out to us that inclusion. It's Springfield that eating you, and we'd be happy to.
00:54:49.460 --> 00:55:11.709 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: you know, respond, and engage with anyone out there that is looking to be involved looking to engage with us as a campus community. We're simply looking at the institution that they might want to consider for the next 4 to 6 years. Well, Dr. Chill, I I will say, you know, names are fitting right, because when we are doing this work we have to be in that place, that that we have to kick a level head.
00:55:11.900 --> 00:55:22.929 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: and we have to get a lot of tender, loving care. So that's why the Tlc. Is put forth there. I mean, it's my given name I did make it up for the purposes of this. And so
00:55:23.130 --> 00:55:46.779 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: our names have meaning. I just really want to thank you so much for coming on to talk about adversity, equity, and inclusion, what it really means and belonging. Let's not leave that out and belonging, but also to talk about affirmative action, and really to talk about what it is that you all do at Springfield College, and how you take care of the needs of students. So
00:55:46.940 --> 00:56:09.820 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: want to invite anyone out there to to. Who is interested in looking at schools, to look at Springfield College. Look at the work that they're doing there and find out whether it's the school for you like, Dr. Hill said as well. Just go to a school that really supports you and your needs. Thank you again, Dr. Hill, for being my guest today.
00:56:09.820 --> 00:56:34.170 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: Thank you. To my listeners. I'm so excited that you have join me. Please go to sacred intelligence.com to find out more about the work that I do, and how you could pick up any information that I have there in terms of books and meditations, and please stay tuned for the conscious consultant hour with Sam Leibowitz, where he helps you to walk through life with the greatest of ease and joy
00:56:34.840 --> 00:56:53.640 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: may today you tap into that sacred part of you that allows you to make choices that manifest the good in you and those around. You know that we are all one and exist because of one another, make it a priority to share love, hope, compassion, and peace. Today
00:56:53.690 --> 00:56:59.389 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: be well, be safe. Be encouraged until next time bye, for now.
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