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This week, on The Conscious Consultant Hour, Sam welcomes Cosmologist, Futurist, Planetary Healer, and Award-Winning Author,Dr. Jude Currivan PhD.
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Dr. Currivan is the award-winning author of The Cosmic Hologramand The Story of Gaia: The Big Breath and the Evolutionary Journey of Our Conscious Planet. In this latest book from Dr. Currivan, she explores our emergence as self-aware members of a planetary home and entire Universe that is a unified and innately sentient entity, showing that mind and consciousness are not what we possess but what we and the whole world fundamentally are. She reveals our Universe as “a great thought of cosmic mind,” manifesting as a cosmic hologram of meaningful in-formation that vitally exists to evolve.
She is one of the most senior international business women in the UK, and co-founder of WholeWorld-View aiming to serve the understanding, experiencing and embodying of unitive awareness and conscious evolution.
Tune in and join the conversation as Sam and Dr. Currivan discuss about the evolution of consciousness, the universe, and this precious planet we all live on.
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Recently, Sam had the privilege of attending the Psychedelic Sciences conference in Denver, where he had the chance to connect with esteemed figures in the industry. Inspired by the experience, he shares an insightful excerpt titled "When you open up to possibilities, we can see the magic of life" from his book, Everyday Awakening, available at www.everydayawakeningbook.com. Sam is thrilled to introduce this week's guest, Dr. Jude Currivan PhD, a cosmologist, futurist, planetary healer, and award-winning author.
Dr. Jude Currivan PhD views cosmology as an intrinsic part of her identity, a lifelong pursuit that has shaped her journey. Her books draw inspiration from extraordinary supernatural occurrences, which she eloquently delves into. In her exploration, she stumbled upon an ancient Indian text that intriguingly delved into the concept of Indra's Net, portraying reality as a dazzling tapestry of countless interwoven jewels. Space-time and the existence of multiple dimensions are among the captivating topics Dr. Jude and Sam engage in. Their conversation delves into the profound connection between holograms and these diverse dimensions.
In the past year, a group of physicists were awarded the Nobel Prize for a fascinating discovery, which Dr. Jude elaborates on. This discovery revealed that our universe is a conscious, interconnected entity with self-awareness. The concept of universal non-locality is now firmly established in the scientific community. Sam further emphasizes that the universe is truly non-locally real. Dr. Jude highlights the abundance of evidence supporting this assertion and shifts the focus to her deep interest in Gaia. She provides an explanation for her fascination with this topic.
During their conversation, Sam and Dr. Jude delve into the concept of consciousness, highlighting that it exists on a spectrum and varies between humans and animals like dogs. They emphasize that consciousness involves self-awareness. Dr. Jude shares her perspectives on the afterlife, offering insights into this intriguing topic. Sam and Dr. Jude also explore string theory and the intriguing notion of a multiverse. Additionally, Dr. Jude mentions that she is currently working on the third book in her trilogy.
00:00:22.850 --> 00:00:37.649 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: good afternoon. Good morning. Good evening. Wherever you're tuning in from. Welcome to the conscious consultant hour awakening humanity. I am very, very pleased that you are all here with me today.
00:00:38.250 --> 00:00:52.020 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: It's I I know. Last week's show we we pre recorded. I was out at a conference last week I was at the Psychedelic Sciences Conference last week in Denver, and it was a massive
00:00:52.050 --> 00:01:04.739 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: conference. It was probably the largest psychedelics related conference in the history of modern world. There was over 11 or 12,000 people showing up.
00:01:05.060 --> 00:01:27.210 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: I got to see some amazing elders that I've never met before in my life like Dr. Stanislav Graf, and I've I've known of Dr. Graft's work since the early eighties, and he's truly an icon in the industry. He's he's about to turn 92 years old, God knows if I'll have an opportunity to see him again.
00:01:27.230 --> 00:01:37.459 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: There were also such luminaries as Dr. Andrew wheel, the very famous integrative doctor he was there. I got a chance to shake his hand, which was nice.
00:01:37.660 --> 00:01:42.780 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And Dr. Rowland Griffiths, truly one of the most
00:01:43.030 --> 00:01:51.159 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: touching inspirational talks of the conference. He's the gentleman who started the the
00:01:51.190 --> 00:01:59.460 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: psychedelic studies in Johns Hopkins University. We've been where they've done so much great research on Psilocybin and Mdma.
00:02:00.460 --> 00:02:12.679 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And just a few months ago he found out that he has stage for colon cancer. and he may not be with us that much longer. Yet he showed up.
00:02:13.320 --> 00:02:17.300 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and he showed up on stage with a presence.
00:02:17.630 --> 00:02:28.959 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: a joy, a curiosity for the mystery of life and what comes next. And to see this gentleman on stage.
00:02:29.600 --> 00:02:33.720 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: I mean basically facing his imminent demise
00:02:34.250 --> 00:02:41.260 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and being able to do so with such poise and such
00:02:43.060 --> 00:02:49.119 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: joy. such joy! It it was amazing to behold.
00:02:49.800 --> 00:02:52.970 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And It really touched me
00:02:53.570 --> 00:03:01.189 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: as did so many of the lectures I sat into, and just the people I connected with so many people there I didn't even know would be there.
00:03:01.640 --> 00:03:12.310 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: So it was quite a week, I mean 5 days, very full days. I'm still recovering from it. So my energy is now what it usually is, you know. Why.
00:03:13.000 --> 00:03:24.180 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: so? I've got a wonderful guest who I want to introduce in a moment. But first, of course. we have our little section from my book. Everyday Awakening.
00:03:25.350 --> 00:03:29.870 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: There we go. And this section is entitled.
00:03:31.850 --> 00:03:44.379 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: When we open up to possibilities we can see the magic of life. Sometimes we crave to see evidence of magic in our lives.
00:03:44.730 --> 00:03:51.270 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: We want that something special to show up in a way we can see it.
00:03:51.390 --> 00:03:53.710 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: touch it. feel it.
00:03:54.570 --> 00:03:58.609 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: We want to see something we can explain.
00:03:59.770 --> 00:04:04.200 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: At the same time we are skeptical of magic and miracles.
00:04:04.990 --> 00:04:13.640 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: We have a hard time believing in unseen things. We feel that magic just does not happen for us.
00:04:14.270 --> 00:04:15.640 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Here is the thing.
00:04:15.810 --> 00:04:20.900 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: If we want magic to show up in our lives, we need to change.
00:04:21.060 --> 00:04:28.559 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: to change our perspective, to change our attitude, to be open to the possibility.
00:04:29.320 --> 00:04:37.460 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: If we would allow ourselves to be just a little more open. we would create space
00:04:38.020 --> 00:04:49.400 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: for magic to show up. Sometimes the magic is all around us, and we just do not see it. Small coincidences go unnoticed.
00:04:50.490 --> 00:05:01.940 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: There is the person who calls right when we're thinking about them. The 1111 on the clock. the angel speaking to us in subtle ways.
00:05:03.030 --> 00:05:07.270 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: If we do not look for it, we do not see it
00:05:08.210 --> 00:05:15.390 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: yet. When we open our eyes when we open our hearts to the magic of life itself.
00:05:16.470 --> 00:05:25.610 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: When we embrace the miracles that are all around us. we see an experience so much more magic.
00:05:26.640 --> 00:05:30.029 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: What was once impossible is now possible.
00:05:30.330 --> 00:05:34.560 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: What was once unimaginable is now very real.
00:05:35.610 --> 00:05:40.110 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and our lives become joyful, knowing there is magic in them.
00:05:41.770 --> 00:05:49.330 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: The shift is not an easy one, especially if we have spent a lifetime being skeptical and closed-minded.
00:05:49.830 --> 00:05:59.440 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: To open up now is asking a lot of ourselves. Yet it is the only path we can take to have this desire fulfilled.
00:05:59.750 --> 00:06:03.160 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: for only those who believe in magic
00:06:03.200 --> 00:06:04.690 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: we'll see magic.
00:06:05.530 --> 00:06:09.229 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: real magic, not slight of hand tricks.
00:06:09.420 --> 00:06:12.040 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: the magic of life itself.
00:06:13.220 --> 00:06:15.420 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Have you been closed to magic?
00:06:15.920 --> 00:06:20.549 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Can you open up to seeing the magic in your own life.
00:06:23.570 --> 00:06:24.520 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: so
00:06:25.040 --> 00:06:28.879 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: that this comes this. This whole
00:06:29.570 --> 00:06:38.240 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: section comes from an inspiration from the gentleman who I study under his names, Armand.
00:06:39.570 --> 00:06:41.030 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And
00:06:41.360 --> 00:06:51.710 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: he said to me once, you know. I I said to him. You know in the past, in my life people always, you know, called me gullible, and that
00:06:52.270 --> 00:07:01.369 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: you know I I I don't know. Unrealistic or whatever, and he said, Oh, being gullible is a good thing I was like, really, why is that?
00:07:01.950 --> 00:07:06.729 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And he says, Well, because if you're not gullible, you can't see the magic around you
00:07:08.010 --> 00:07:11.410 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: people who are not at least a little bit gullible.
00:07:12.230 --> 00:07:16.499 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: We never noticed the real magic of life, the
00:07:16.630 --> 00:07:19.719 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: the amazing things that can happen.
00:07:19.940 --> 00:07:25.390 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And you know it's so funny. Reading this especially, I I put in this post about the 1111 on the clock.
00:07:26.000 --> 00:07:30.609 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: I almost daily see 1111.
00:07:31.300 --> 00:07:42.770 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: It's so funny, I mean that intending to. It's not like I'm sitting there at 1110 and waiting for it to flip over to 1111 but just very casually passing.
00:07:42.820 --> 00:07:52.099 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: you know, I check my phone for something, and it's 1111. I look at the clock in the kitchen, and it's 1111 that that that comes to me all the time.
00:07:53.060 --> 00:08:00.549 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Still not quite sure what that really means. But it happens far too frequently to be a random occurrence.
00:08:03.440 --> 00:08:05.330 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And you see, that's the thing.
00:08:06.390 --> 00:08:14.159 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: I could be very skeptical. I could just be. No, it's just a random occurrence. It's just happening more frequently at certain times.
00:08:14.990 --> 00:08:16.770 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And then I miss the magic.
00:08:18.650 --> 00:08:22.250 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And so the whole point of this
00:08:22.460 --> 00:08:27.620 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: section of the book called. When we open up to possibilities, we can see the magic of life.
00:08:28.640 --> 00:08:31.470 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: It's opening up to the possibility
00:08:32.630 --> 00:08:35.390 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: that there's something magical about this.
00:08:37.330 --> 00:08:42.499 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and we don't have to be certain. I don't think magic ever comes with certainty.
00:08:44.280 --> 00:08:47.280 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: It's being open to the possibility
00:08:49.040 --> 00:08:59.039 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: that life as we know it. it just might be a little different than we've been raised than we've been taught than we've
00:08:59.720 --> 00:09:01.379 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: understood it to be.
00:09:03.720 --> 00:09:19.740 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: So. This is my my gift for you for this week from this section of my book. yeah. So I guess. your mission, should you choose to accept it for this week until next week's show is going to be
00:09:20.920 --> 00:09:24.729 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: opening up to the possibility of magic in your life.
00:09:26.720 --> 00:09:35.590 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Can you notice, can you see just amazing occurrences happening that work out just perfectly.
00:09:37.370 --> 00:09:40.220 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and instead of calling them coincidences.
00:09:40.640 --> 00:09:43.280 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: think of them as something magical.
00:09:43.980 --> 00:09:46.869 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and see if maybe life will bring you more of it.
00:09:48.540 --> 00:09:52.829 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: So that's my invitation for this week for you all.
00:09:54.450 --> 00:10:01.599 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: So now it is my extreme pleasure to welcome to the show
00:10:02.690 --> 00:10:14.259 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: cosmologist, Futurist, planetary healer and award-winning author, Dr. Jude Caravan, Ph. D. Hope I got that right. Kerfam.
00:10:14.290 --> 00:10:19.109 Dr Jude Currivan: It's wonderful, Sam. Yeah. The name is comes from the Irish
00:10:19.190 --> 00:10:27.859 Dr Jude Currivan: and my husband's great grandfathers and early were Irish, and it's based on the the word for raven.
00:10:28.160 --> 00:10:45.850 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: so ravens are pretty magical. and so yeah, caravan is is is derived from that. So Dr. Kerven is an award-winning offer of the cosmic hologram and the story of Gaia, which I have right here.
00:10:46.260 --> 00:10:47.899 Dr Jude Currivan: This is what it looks like
00:10:47.980 --> 00:11:11.890 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: the big breath and the evolutionary journey of our conscious planet. In this latest book, Dr. Kerven, she explores our emergence as self aware, members of a planetary home, an entire universe that is, a unified and innately sentient entity, showing that mind and consciousness are not what we possess.
00:11:11.890 --> 00:11:36.050 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: but what we in the whole world fundamentally are. She reveals our universe as a great thought of Cosmic Mind, manifesting as a cosmic hologram of meaningful in formation that virtually exists to evolve. She's one of the most senior international business women in the Uk. And co-founder of whole world view.
00:11:36.050 --> 00:11:43.489 aiming to serve the understanding, experiencing, and embodying of intuitive awareness and conscious evolution of
00:11:43.490 --> 00:11:46.690 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: welcome to the conscious. Consult now, or Dr. Caravan.
00:11:46.720 --> 00:11:57.320 Dr Jude Currivan: Sam. It's lovely to be with you, and I I so appreciated you sharing those stories at the beginning of the of the show.
00:11:57.330 --> 00:12:02.159 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Yeah, I'm I'm just, you know, running through my book that that came out in in 2,020
00:12:02.260 --> 00:12:12.400 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and it's kind of funny how I'm just going in order. Yet somehow, whatever I'm reading for the day always fits perfectly with the guests that I have.
00:12:12.520 --> 00:12:23.749 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: So I I I always like to start off and and we'll have a commercial break in about 2, 3 min. but I like to give the audience a little bit of background about
00:12:23.780 --> 00:12:42.410 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: how you became a cosmologist, a futurist, and and so focused on planetary stuff. I mean when when you were like a little kid? Did you like look up to the stars in wonderment? And we was this something that that was always sort of a part of you, or is it something that more developed later in life?
00:12:42.510 --> 00:13:07.449 Dr Jude Currivan: Always part of me, I mean, I was looking up with the stars with Wanda. When I was 4 years old, 5 years old I had my first what might be called supernormal experience when I was 4 years old, so this lifelong journey has been one of curiosity. And when people say, Well, what's a cosmologist, I mean it. It. Most cosmologists research the physical universe
00:13:07.540 --> 00:13:18.000 Dr Jude Currivan: really look deeper at the nature of reality itself, and and it's a lifelong curiosity of expiration. So I mean
00:13:18.170 --> 00:13:25.879 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: I I I to me, like, you know, ever since I I became aware of people like
00:13:27.210 --> 00:13:30.570 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: David Boe and
00:13:31.020 --> 00:13:35.400 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Kapra, who wrote the Dow of Physics?
00:13:35.450 --> 00:13:38.029 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And of course,
00:13:40.500 --> 00:14:08.989 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: What's his name? The guy who did cosmos? Oh, I can't believe it. Call Sagan. Yes, Carl Sagan as a kid. this is wonderful video I I love called the the Symphony of Science, where this gentleman, like, strung together all these interviews of people like Sagan and Feynman, and and and all these great physicists into this like kind of tunesy thing that that was just wonderful. And
00:14:09.360 --> 00:14:16.409 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: you know to me it it's always such a mystery. And and I kind of at a young age.
00:14:18.010 --> 00:14:21.639 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: I kind of got that. There's this mystery, that
00:14:21.900 --> 00:14:29.240 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: regular religion, standard religions didn't really answer for me. You know I was brought up Jewish.
00:14:29.330 --> 00:14:32.760 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: but I never really felt the spirit of it as a kid.
00:14:33.080 --> 00:14:49.919 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Yet somehow in and and my first major in in college was physics like. I remember I I worked in the physics lab that first semester and made a hologram way back when you know people didn't know what holograms were, and
00:14:50.220 --> 00:14:59.660 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: it's like studying the fundamental nature of reality to me felt like it was the most important thing we could possibly do.
00:15:00.020 --> 00:15:15.610 Dr Jude Currivan: I I love it, too, except I would say now that the appearance of our universe, its energy, matter and space, time, we're realizing this, did ancient wisdom traditions is not its fundamental reality. So hopefully, today, we'll have a deep dive into
00:15:15.630 --> 00:15:26.029 Dr Jude Currivan: how that is, and perhaps why that is, and what that means for us in our lives. Because, as you say, it's fundamental to each and all of us.
00:15:26.290 --> 00:15:40.630 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Yes, absolutely, absolutely. I totally want to go there. We're gonna take our first break And and when we come back let's start diving in. I'm I'm curious about the cosmic hologram. And then and then how your your, your
00:15:40.900 --> 00:15:45.320 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: your focus from from the cosmic hologram to the story of Gaia
00:15:45.360 --> 00:15:54.519 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Because then we're shifting from sort of a more cosmic to to a planetary. And I feel this is so important, especially for what's going on today in the world. So
00:15:55.500 --> 00:16:19.019 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: everyone, please stay tuned. You are listening to the conscious consultant hour awakening humanity. We do this every Thursday 12 noon to one pm. Eastern time, right here on top radio down Nyc. And of course 10 Am. On Kmt. In Palm Springs, California on Wednesdays, and we will be right back with our guest, Dr. Jude Caravan, in just a moment.
00:18:19.110 --> 00:18:24.090 the the
00:18:34.720 --> 00:18:45.909 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and welcome back to the conscious consultant hour awakening humanity. We're speaking this hour with Dr. Jude Caravan, author of the book, The Cosmic Hologram, and her new book.
00:18:46.030 --> 00:18:48.910 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: The Story of Gaia. So
00:18:50.490 --> 00:18:54.750 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: you've been a cosmologist and a Futurist for a long time. Haven't you
00:18:54.870 --> 00:19:09.820 Dr Jude Currivan: sure I have less of a Futurist? But certainly a cosmologist? I think it's in my DNA. But the the Futurists came really in the last. perhaps 25 years. But the cosmology has been a lifelong journey.
00:19:10.430 --> 00:19:18.580 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Wonderful! And and the cosmic hologram. Your your first book. What was the inspiration for that? Why did you decide to write that book?
00:19:18.700 --> 00:19:29.139 Dr Jude Currivan: Well, it was my first book, actually some. It was my sixth Whoa But but it was the first what it was, the first book, but I,
00:19:29.220 --> 00:19:33.449 Dr Jude Currivan: about 22 years ago, to one of the magic about 22 years ago.
00:19:33.470 --> 00:19:35.320 I
00:19:35.580 --> 00:19:38.749 Dr Jude Currivan: I heard I heard a Claudian message.
00:19:39.040 --> 00:19:51.090 Dr Jude Currivan: I talked about supernormal phenomena, and I'd like to sort of share some of these, because this is where the magic becomes our everyday lived experience in this conference last week. They call it 9 ordinary states of reality.
00:19:51.300 --> 00:20:11.210 Dr Jude Currivan: Fine for me it's ordinary. But I I I love that. And and a a friend and colleague of mine did Ray Dean raiding of ions the Institute of Realtic Sciences. Dean calls it super normal phenomenon, otherwise it's not paranormal, it's not supernatural.
00:20:11.240 --> 00:20:33.550 Dr Jude Currivan: So with those experiences I began to explore the nature of reality from when I was very young indeed, and that experience I sometimes describe as walking between worlds, but what I did experience were realms of existence and intelligence way beyond what we call our physical universe.
00:20:34.020 --> 00:20:47.709 Dr Jude Currivan: And some years later, because I started really doing this when I was very young. Some years later I came across an ancient text from India that talked about something called indres met.
00:20:47.710 --> 00:21:04.999 Dr Jude Currivan: and Indra's net describes reality as made up of myriad of jewels, and each jewel has many, many facets, and each facet of every jaw reflects every other facet of every other jewel, and the jewels are connected by golden threads of light.
00:21:05.220 --> 00:21:13.820 Dr Jude Currivan: and that accorded to my experiences far more than what I was being then taught at school and then at university and onwards.
00:21:13.920 --> 00:21:29.810 Dr Jude Currivan: and many years later I I came across the terminology of holograms. I love that you built long. I mean good for you. But as a cosmologist some decades ago, researchers were looking at black holes.
00:21:30.000 --> 00:21:40.469 Dr Jude Currivan: and they were realising that the information of massive stars, what happens to it when a massive star collapses at the end of its life and becomes a black hole.
00:21:40.900 --> 00:21:53.799 Dr Jude Currivan: was actually still in our universe. But instead of being proportional to the, to the three-dimensional volume of that black hole. it was proportional to its two-dimensional surface area.
00:21:53.880 --> 00:21:58.229 Dr Jude Currivan: And you'll recognize this because what you do when you create a hologram.
00:21:58.250 --> 00:22:08.039 Dr Jude Currivan: you shine, light off a 3D. Object. The reflected light brings back its information about that object that's then placed on a two-dimensional
00:22:08.070 --> 00:22:21.009 Dr Jude Currivan: frame, and when another beam of lights flowed through it. the hologram of the original object is projected, so, expanding their understanding of what they are finding about Black Hole information.
00:22:21.540 --> 00:22:26.639 Dr Jude Currivan: a a light bulb started to go, and they expanded that to the whole universe.
00:22:26.770 --> 00:22:30.510 So all the understanding we've now gathered
00:22:30.610 --> 00:22:36.419 Dr Jude Currivan: over the last period of time, and it really is leading edge. But the evidence is compelling
00:22:36.790 --> 00:22:45.210 Dr Jude Currivan: is that the appearance of our universe, its any genetic space-time isn't its most fundamental reality, but arises
00:22:45.330 --> 00:22:57.419 Dr Jude Currivan: from causes, realms of causation as intelligent, meaningful information, and that the whole of our universe is holographically projected
00:22:58.040 --> 00:23:05.210 Dr Jude Currivan: from its boundary what we call space, time, from its boundary, literally as a cosmic hologram.
00:23:05.230 --> 00:23:11.820 Dr Jude Currivan: And what that means is, our universe exists and evolves as a unified entity.
00:23:11.970 --> 00:23:26.579 Dr Jude Currivan: So, although within space time nothing can go faster than this cosmic speed cop, which is the speed of light, because our universe exists and evolves as a unified entity a great thought form
00:23:26.620 --> 00:23:34.610 Dr Jude Currivan: of meaningful information. It means that it knows itself in its entirety, and it means that
00:23:34.830 --> 00:23:40.019 Dr Jude Currivan: meaningful coincidences that are sometimes called synchronicities
00:23:40.600 --> 00:23:46.599 Dr Jude Currivan: super normal phenomena and experiences are naturally embraced
00:23:46.980 --> 00:23:56.990 Dr Jude Currivan: by this emergent cosmology. And of course, it's an emergent cosmology that has its roots deep in universal wisdom teachings.
00:23:57.020 --> 00:24:00.149 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Hmm, yeah, they. They're so
00:24:00.450 --> 00:24:17.810 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: many ancient traditions like we even in Judaism, in the Kabala. If you, if you look at like the the, the fundamentals of Kabul, like where how it talks about the way the universe is formed. It it it. It is similar stories of of
00:24:18.010 --> 00:24:24.790 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: the giver and receiver and the shattering into multiplicity. And it it it really
00:24:24.850 --> 00:24:32.340 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: to me, it's it's sort of amazing how, after thousands and thousands of years, science is bringing us back
00:24:32.690 --> 00:24:35.750 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: to this ancient ancient wisdom.
00:24:35.790 --> 00:24:44.090 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and it really makes you scratch your head and wonder. Well, how did these ancient mystics know all this?
00:24:44.100 --> 00:24:57.579 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: You know I remember the first time I was exposed to the idea of Indira's web, and I was like, oh, my God, like, yeah, that's the holographic universe. I was like, how did they possibly have a concept of this?
00:24:57.620 --> 00:25:01.499 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: You know? 2, 3, 4, 5,000 years ago.
00:25:02.860 --> 00:25:18.250 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and and you know to me the amazing thing about holograms and just, I want to relate this for our audience, who might not be as aware of the how holograms work. But when you create a hologram, it's a flat, 2D representation.
00:25:18.410 --> 00:25:35.549 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: But you know, like a regular picture, if you cut it in half, and you have just one half of the picture. You only see that half. but with a hologram. If you cut it in half, you can still see the whole image. You just have to look at it from a slightly different angle.
00:25:35.560 --> 00:25:50.099 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and there's a little less information, so it might look a little fuzzier. and you can keep cutting that hologram up into smaller and smaller pieces. and in every single little piece of the hologram will be the entire image.
00:25:50.800 --> 00:25:56.090 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: That's the. This is something to me is just incredible.
00:25:56.380 --> 00:26:18.319 Dr Jude Currivan: So our universe and the swell universes, because you know our best high definition. Holograms have pixelation scale, which is tiny, absolutely tiny, but the pixelation, in other words, that that minimum piece, that the whole can be subdivided within, and yet the whole is within every piece.
00:26:18.810 --> 00:26:25.749 Dr Jude Currivan: The pixelation scale of our universe is at more than a trillion trillion times smaller
00:26:25.790 --> 00:26:37.720 Dr Jude Currivan: than our best high definition holograms on Earth. It's absolutely minute. The the pixelation scale of our universe, which is how its reality comes into being.
00:26:38.130 --> 00:26:43.110 Dr Jude Currivan: is a small as to an atom, as anatomist to the whole universe
00:26:43.330 --> 00:26:49.320 Dr Jude Currivan: which enables a vast vast amount of meaningful information
00:26:49.610 --> 00:26:56.779 Dr Jude Currivan: to be expressed in this appearance that we we've described as it's energy and matter and space and time.
00:26:56.940 --> 00:26:58.639 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Yeah, yeah.
00:26:59.790 --> 00:27:02.820 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: no.
00:27:02.840 --> 00:27:11.940 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: In in the story of Gaia. And and I, I think in your work in general, you you really try and show how
00:27:13.120 --> 00:27:18.249 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: consciousness is not something that evolved out of matter.
00:27:18.740 --> 00:27:29.319 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: but is actually more the fundamental aspect of the universe. And I remember seeing a video on Youtube, and I can't remember the gentleman's name.
00:27:29.420 --> 00:27:32.760 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: but he talked about how there were several
00:27:32.880 --> 00:27:39.009 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: theoretical physicists now, who all are in alignment with that idea
00:27:39.120 --> 00:27:49.350 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: that almost in order to have matter in order to have this world that we live in. you need to have
00:27:49.380 --> 00:27:51.880 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: consciousness first.
00:27:52.500 --> 00:28:08.079 Dr Jude Currivan: I would say even more than that that Conscious Mind, Cosmic Mind and Consciousness, Universal Mind and Consciousness, is the stuff of reality. You know the way that quantum physics works makes a a reality seem very solid.
00:28:08.280 --> 00:28:35.749 Dr Jude Currivan: And yet we know when we drill down that it's incredibly ephemeral. And now we're realizing that what is there are fields of relational and meaningful in formation, which is basically consciousness expressing itself as digitized information that then becomes the atoms, the molecules, the planets, the plants, the people, everything of our universe. It's a great thought, rather great thing.
00:28:35.910 --> 00:28:36.780 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Hmm!
00:28:38.060 --> 00:28:48.390 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And if we truly understand and take to heart the idea that it's all one right, that everything is related.
00:28:48.810 --> 00:28:55.699 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Then that would kind of change how we show up in the day-to-day world, wouldn't it?
00:28:56.190 --> 00:29:04.380 Dr Jude Currivan: Just a touch on which I'm sure we'll go on to explore after the break. But that's it changes. It changes everything.
00:29:04.400 --> 00:29:12.870 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Yes, yes, and and it's the change that we probably need in the world now. Okay, so. So we have to go to a break.
00:29:12.880 --> 00:29:17.190 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: when we come back. I just want to touch upon
00:29:17.880 --> 00:29:20.110 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: the string theory.
00:29:20.140 --> 00:29:24.420 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And then also the
00:29:24.510 --> 00:29:27.909 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: the Nobel Prize winners in physics. Last year
00:29:27.950 --> 00:29:32.410 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: made a discovery that they won. That was kind of a
00:29:32.480 --> 00:29:55.019 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: I kind of thing to win the Nobel prize for. So I'd like to work that into the conversation. If that's okay with you, Dr. Jude, it's more than okay. I'll be delighted to some wonderful wonderful. So everyone, please stay tuned. You're listening to the conscious consultant hour awakening humanity this hour. We're speaking with Dr. Jude Carvin, author of the book.
00:29:55.020 --> 00:30:03.240 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: The story of Gaia. And we'll get into the book, too, before the end of the show. So please stay tuned. We'll be right back in just a moment.
00:31:52.190 --> 00:31:57.180 The the
00:32:07.670 --> 00:32:14.499 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and then welcome back. So, Dr. Jude. last year a couple of physicists
00:32:14.660 --> 00:32:19.560 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: when the Nobel Prize for very interesting discovery, didn't they?
00:32:19.640 --> 00:32:37.240 Dr Jude Currivan: They surely did, Sam, and I feel it really is. It's sort of heralding this threshold of breakthrough in this new understanding, which, of course, is ancient understanding that we've been. We've been sharing the names of John Klauser, Allen Aspect and Anton Sellinga.
00:32:37.290 --> 00:32:45.289 Dr Jude Currivan: and their work really goes back to the beginnings of quantum theory. You know, the quantum pioneers of of more than 100 years ago.
00:32:45.320 --> 00:32:53.749 Dr Jude Currivan: because when quantum physicists were starting to realize something very different from what the scientific paradigm had been until then.
00:32:53.770 --> 00:33:09.920 Dr Jude Currivan: instead of a mechanistic universe of separate things, they were starting to discover more. What relationships, more processes, more flows, and they were realizing that you know the theory.
00:33:10.020 --> 00:33:14.270 Dr Jude Currivan: the the theory required that our entire universe
00:33:14.410 --> 00:33:31.479 Dr Jude Currivan: is unified, and the description of that is non-locally unified and non-local means. You know, it's not just in front of our faces or on a planetary scale. It's beyond our senses. It's beyond In that sense it's beyond local perception.
00:33:31.510 --> 00:33:35.060 Dr Jude Currivan: But there are entire universes fundamentally.
00:33:35.270 --> 00:33:52.120 Dr Jude Currivan: non-locally unified. And what that means is, as I mentioned earlier, it means our universe. Now that we know even more about this exist and evolves as a conscious, living, unified entity which knows itself.
00:33:52.270 --> 00:33:58.550 Dr Jude Currivan: It notes itself in its wholeness. But to begin with, of course, that was theoretical.
00:33:58.660 --> 00:34:20.369 Dr Jude Currivan: but it was, it was a requirement for quantum physics to work at all. When you dug down into the theory it was a requirement. Universal non-locality was a requirement, and then it became thought experiments, because nobody had the technology to do anything with it. But then, in the 1,900 seventys and eighties, people started to be able to research
00:34:20.699 --> 00:34:39.709 Dr Jude Currivan: non-locality at a quantum scale by creating twin particles and realising that when one was flipped in terms of specific state, the twin immediately switched without any signal going between them. But those experiments were able to then be expanded to bigger and bigger scales.
00:34:39.770 --> 00:35:04.840 Dr Jude Currivan: and in 2,018, that scale became huge because physicists were able to non locally what's called entangle photons of light in a laboratory with starlight from 600 light years away from light, from an incredibly active Galactic Center, 12.2 billion light years away.
00:35:05.020 --> 00:35:24.490 Dr Jude Currivan: That is cosmological. And one of the experimenters involved in that particular work was Anton Zellinger, but his 2 colleagues, and he, after decades got the Nobel Prize of Physics last year, late last year for universal non-locality. I think the key here
00:35:24.830 --> 00:35:44.110 Dr Jude Currivan: is that the Nobel's only given for what we call settled science. Einstein didn't get his Nobel Prize for relativity theory, because it was seen as being too contentious. Right? He got it for something else that proved the quantized nature of energy matter called the photoelectric effect. So these 3 researchers
00:35:44.180 --> 00:35:48.990 Dr Jude Currivan: getting the Nobel is that universal non-locality
00:35:49.150 --> 00:35:54.560 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: is now seen as settled. Science. Wow! And that's
00:35:54.860 --> 00:36:02.800 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: it. To me that's like the ultimate of society saying, No, this is real like like
00:36:02.830 --> 00:36:09.789 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: what we're talking about like this is real, and it's something that needs to be recognized.
00:36:09.900 --> 00:36:20.170 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: I I heard the story once that there was a a quantum physicist. I think it was in Stanford who wanted to teach quantum physics to non physics majors.
00:36:20.510 --> 00:36:38.339 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and when he put in his application to the board. They came back and denied it, and they said it would be like giving kidding kindergarten children machine guns, he responded. No worries. I'll teach them gun safety. But they still didn't.
00:36:39.190 --> 00:36:56.059 Dr Jude Currivan: And and and one of the things I've heard quoted about the the Nobel Prize is that what they proved is that the universe is non-locally real. Yes, in other words, unity isn't an aspiration. It's our existential reality.
00:36:56.340 --> 00:37:22.929 Dr Jude Currivan: right? And that changes everything. Because what it say, you know, our worldview has been one of materialism and separation. With all that goes with that, as you were saying earlier, what this does, and the evidence is far more than you know. It's it's I've written about it in both the books you mentioned, but the evidence is all scales of existence and across many different fields of research. And it's turning that old paradigm on its head.
00:37:22.960 --> 00:37:35.799 Dr Jude Currivan: and that our paradigm, of course, was of a dead universe. It was a meaningless universe, it was a purposeless universe. This is completely transforming that view and bringing meaning and purpose.
00:37:36.360 --> 00:37:43.050 Dr Jude Currivan: and that means ours into a living, evolving, unified universe.
00:37:43.110 --> 00:37:44.610 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Yes, and
00:37:45.420 --> 00:37:51.779 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: it means like this idea of oh, it doesn't matter what I do.
00:37:52.590 --> 00:37:57.980 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: There's there! There! There's no implications. I can go and and and.
00:37:57.990 --> 00:37:59.590 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: you know.
00:37:59.700 --> 00:38:16.029 Dr Jude Currivan: hurt people. I can just make myself the center of the universe, and effectively, it doesn't make any difference. And the truth is, it does, it does make difference. And this is why this is far more. You know, this is far more important than essentially a, a, a scientific revolution.
00:38:16.050 --> 00:38:24.160 Dr Jude Currivan: because this is a revolution, our understanding of the nature of reality itself, and therefore who we are. And it's showing us, Sam.
00:38:24.330 --> 00:38:36.159 Dr Jude Currivan: that we're inseparable. So when we hurt someone else or our planetary home, we're hurting ourselves at profound levels of of of trauma. And so
00:38:36.310 --> 00:38:54.220 Dr Jude Currivan: mit Ctl, and literally waking up to remember inseparable offers is also, it seems to me, an invitation from the universe to evolve in our consciousness, to evolve in our awareness, and to make different choices exactly exactly, which is a perfect bridge for us to now talk about the story of Guy 250
00:38:54.530 --> 00:39:03.679 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and like, why did you choose to take this focus on sort of universal consciousness. And now you're focusing on Gaia, on planet Earth.
00:39:04.810 --> 00:39:36.589 Dr Jude Currivan: Well, the story of Gaia, of course, is the story, not just of our planetary home, but the story of us, and also the story of our whole universe. because when we go back to the beginning of our universe 13.8 billion years ago. Yeah, stories go back as far as we have a memory of being able to tell a story. And thanks to the technologies of our science, we can go back to the essentially to the beginning of our universe 13.8 billion years ago. So I wanted to tell the whole story, and I wanted to tell it.
00:39:36.650 --> 00:39:47.610 Dr Jude Currivan: coming from a perspective and evidence-based of universal consciousness. But I also wanted to really share that the story of our universe is our story.
00:39:47.830 --> 00:40:14.299 Dr Jude Currivan: And I talk about our universe beginning, not as a big bang. It wasn't big, we know that, but it wasn't the so chaos of a bang. Instead. It was incredibly fine tuned and ordered as the first moment of an ongoing big breath. So, as time has flowed forward ever since, and a space has expanded ever since the story of our universe. The story of Gaia and the story that's come to us.
00:40:14.470 --> 00:40:22.340 Dr Jude Currivan: a story of evolution from simplicity to ever greater levels of complexity and diversity and
00:40:22.380 --> 00:40:33.570 Dr Jude Currivan: and individuated self-awareness. So I couldn't just tell the story of Gyre as a planetary home without going back to the beginning of the whole story, because the hydrogen
00:40:33.630 --> 00:40:42.740 Dr Jude Currivan: in our bodies, the hydrogen in the waters, in our bodies, the hydrogen in the waters of Gaia is as old as the universe.
00:40:42.970 --> 00:40:43.920 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Yes.
00:40:44.260 --> 00:40:48.909 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: yes, and and again, it kind of goes back to this
00:40:49.150 --> 00:41:04.970 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: idea of a holographic universe that what is within us. I mean the the very substance that created the physical universe at the beginning of time is what is within us.
00:41:05.040 --> 00:41:13.739 Dr Jude Currivan: Yes, exactly. And that gives us in inherent meaning and purpose an evolutionary purpose. Because we are here and now
00:41:13.990 --> 00:41:25.330 Dr Jude Currivan: we're on the bow wave of the evolutionary art, that evolutionary impulse of our universe. And it seems to me that with this evidence-based understanding
00:41:25.480 --> 00:41:35.439 Dr Jude Currivan: we can be, you know, we're being invited into experiencing. This is who we are. and therefore making our decisions and our choices.
00:41:35.450 --> 00:41:45.779 Dr Jude Currivan: and coming together to link up and lift up for transformational change in the world from this existential reality of who we really are.
00:41:45.990 --> 00:41:53.539 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: which which is again hearkens back to what ancient mystics said, who we are thousands of years ago.
00:41:54.280 --> 00:42:21.749 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Now, if I wanted to play devil's advocate. And I was someone listening to this show. And I was like, Oh, this all sounds great. But right now the world looks like it's it's destroying itself. We're more divided than we've ever been to, for before, you know, we, as the expression is, we're going to hell in a hand basket. You, you know. How can it be universal consciousness with all this craziness, all this pain, all this suffering going on today?
00:42:22.650 --> 00:42:36.680 Dr Jude Currivan: Well, without any blame, because I don't think that's particularly helpful. I'm a student of of the story of us as well, and what I've seen as we look back for the last thousands of years, but progressively, over the last few centuries
00:42:36.960 --> 00:42:55.750 Dr Jude Currivan: we've been journeying to greater levels of sense of self, you know, the further back we look, you know, hunter gatherers is indigenous folks today very much a community minded, we went on a journey of perceived separation per se an individuation.
00:42:55.750 --> 00:43:09.939 Dr Jude Currivan: and what it brought us through was that individuation. We somehow forgot that. Actually, we're differentiated. But we're not separate. And that differentiation then became this growing perspective
00:43:10.390 --> 00:43:29.190 Dr Jude Currivan: of separation. And with separation, you know, when it's to the extent we've had it, it's become a dis ease, and therefore our behaviors and the way we worked in the world. But that's a natural outcome. When we have a worldview separation we are now able to wake up to remember
00:43:29.970 --> 00:43:34.130 Dr Jude Currivan: were inseparable with a world view and a unit of understanding.
00:43:34.220 --> 00:43:42.160 Dr Jude Currivan: Where we can choose differently, we can choose wisely. We can choose from that understanding of wholeness
00:43:42.200 --> 00:44:01.820 Dr Jude Currivan: and the unity in diversity rather than fragmentation and separation. So that's why I think where we're at. It's clearly not sustainable, but it's rather like, you know, 1111. We have the opportunity now to see it, and to to to to with that a harness, that awareness
00:44:02.080 --> 00:44:03.880 Dr Jude Currivan: come to different ways of being.
00:44:04.060 --> 00:44:09.440 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: So it it's the the challenge we're facing today. If if I might paraphrase
00:44:09.570 --> 00:44:25.930 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: it is is not because we've individuated ourselves, but because it's out of balance that we've individuated ourselves to a point where we forgot we're part of the collective
00:44:26.160 --> 00:44:37.620 Dr Jude Currivan: in a play of of this drama rather than realizing and being able to see from a from a deeper perspective, that this is, these are roles we've been taking.
00:44:37.900 --> 00:44:45.369 Dr Jude Currivan: And now these roles, we need to take off those clothes of that immersive perspective of separation
00:44:45.820 --> 00:44:48.839 Dr Jude Currivan: and realize who we are
00:44:48.940 --> 00:44:54.689 Dr Jude Currivan: and who we can become, because this is such an invitation to consciously evolve.
00:44:54.760 --> 00:45:01.249 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and into an our next potential adventure. Wonderful! Wonderful!
00:45:01.260 --> 00:45:13.700 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: I've got a million one questions. I could talk to you for hours. Got to take a last break of the show when we come back. I want to talk a little bit more about sort of consciousness and the different species on the planet.
00:45:13.700 --> 00:45:40.149 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and they do. I I hope we have a chance. I just want to talk about string theory, because I understand there's some controversy around string theory these days which seem to have answered a lot before. So so let's let's make sure to touch upon that before we wrap up. So everyone, please stay tuned. You're listening to the conscious consult now awakening humanity. My guess this hour has been Jude Caravan, author of the book. The story of Guy will be right back to wrap this up in just a moment.
00:47:31.210 --> 00:47:35.790 the you
00:47:46.960 --> 00:47:50.910 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and welcome back. So so, Dr. Jude,
00:47:51.270 --> 00:47:55.170 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: in the story of Gaia. And and then, looking at sort of the whole
00:47:55.500 --> 00:48:11.940 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: view that you have, this evolving consciousness that we're learning is is is based on science is real. So it's kind of almost like there was an inevitability that when life evolved, that it would get more and more complex.
00:48:12.410 --> 00:48:27.330 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: But as we look around the world right, there are different sort of types of consciousness, right? We have a different consciousness from a dog, from a dolphin, from a whale, from a insect, from a tree, from a rock.
00:48:27.760 --> 00:48:34.220 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Do all these other things have consciousness, too, I mean, is this all just consciousness.
00:48:35.280 --> 00:48:55.360 Dr Jude Currivan: Fundamentally, yes. But I think there's there's a a a differentiation between perhaps mind and consciousness, and that differentiation sometimes pointed out is that mind is like the fundamental stuff. Whether we say Cosmic Mind, and consciousness is an awareness.
00:48:55.500 --> 00:49:11.219 Dr Jude Currivan: a level of awareness that can be planetary sentence. In some way it can be a a bird. It can be a a tree, you know. Trees. The latest understanding we have is that trees have 20 senses.
00:49:11.540 --> 00:49:34.330 Dr Jude Currivan: so they're very, very multi-level of awareness, and can communicate with each other. And through the Mycel network, being able to communicate over hundreds of miles. Exactly. But you know, this emergent understanding is of a living, sentient, mindful, essentially conscious universe, where cosmic
00:49:34.330 --> 00:49:46.390 Dr Jude Currivan: universal consciousness is expressed as meaningful, digitized, meaningful in hy for information. It's not random data, it's meaningful inherently so.
00:49:46.450 --> 00:49:52.830 Dr Jude Currivan: And that meaningful information which has pixelated that minute scale, we're talking about right at the beginning.
00:49:52.900 --> 00:50:04.409 Dr Jude Currivan: which is a small as to anatomy, to the whole universe, that is, the that is, the scale of which are The appearance of our universe comes into being
00:50:04.600 --> 00:50:15.160 Dr Jude Currivan: and embodies that innate universal consciousness, mindful understanding, and an an existential nature of reality.
00:50:15.610 --> 00:50:19.379 Dr Jude Currivan: So everything is part of this.
00:50:19.480 --> 00:50:26.859 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Given that I'm curious. What do you believe happens to our consciousness when we pass on
00:50:27.530 --> 00:50:42.780 Dr Jude Currivan: well again, you know I I I I I've had many conversations with dead folks, so you know I do have a position. My mom used to. Sad to speak with anyone, and you know, multi-dimensional folks all over the place.
00:50:42.870 --> 00:50:52.309 Dr Jude Currivan: But yeah, you know, in that sense we our consciousness is not our physicalized bodies. And and you know, with this new understanding and the ephemeralality
00:50:52.360 --> 00:51:05.650 Dr Jude Currivan: of of our universe, it is real, but it's not that sense of solidity, the quantum physics, and the and the force of quantum physics give us the impression of. So you know, when we come into incarnation.
00:51:05.960 --> 00:51:21.420 Dr Jude Currivan: we could say, our soul, our spirit, our consciousness, comes into this earth, walk as indigenous teachings tell us, and ancient wisdom tell us, and then, when we come to the end of our life cycle, whether it be short or whether it be long.
00:51:21.950 --> 00:51:36.810 Dr Jude Currivan: When our bodies come to the end of that, they, you know they they go back into the compost of of Gaia. But our spirits continue, and you know what I'm really pleased now, more and more, and certainly supported
00:51:36.870 --> 00:51:43.149 Dr Jude Currivan: by this, this emergent understanding is more and more credence and more and more support
00:51:43.210 --> 00:52:04.810 Dr Jude Currivan: to research, legitimate right, rigorous research into all supernormal phenomena, and after death continuation near death experiences as well as synchronicities. Yes, as well as our intuitive superpowers. because all of these are naturalized
00:52:05.010 --> 00:52:26.190 Dr Jude Currivan: within this emergent understanding, this conscious cosmology of a living, evolving, sentient, unified universe. Yes, I had on. Who a couple of months ago, a professor who's studying synchronicity like he's done all this research just around synchronicity. It's fascinating.
00:52:26.250 --> 00:52:52.099 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: okay, before we finish up, I I got 2 things I want to ask you about. So the first is string theory. String theory for a long time was felt to be it. This idea that the base of the universe is little tiny things that would wiggle and vibrate, and from those vibrations became all of matter. But now, There seems to be some descent in that. People feel that string theory does not hold water, as we say.
00:52:52.870 --> 00:53:18.610 Dr Jude Currivan: No, it it really has come to a sort of a a perhaps not necessarily an end point, but it's certainly run pretty much out of the steam that it had several decades ago. I think what's really coming forward is is what I'm writing about, and I'm doing that because there is so much evidence, and that's being shared by more and more scientists. Now. So the the sort of the the the the research is is sort of heading
00:53:18.650 --> 00:53:35.479 Dr Jude Currivan: into this informational understanding and this holographic understanding of the nature of of our universe. And what I write about is is expanding the laws of physics. They're still there. They're still absolutely vital. But perhaps by seeing them in a new way.
00:53:35.630 --> 00:53:51.759 Dr Jude Currivan: we can expand our understanding based on information. The holographic principle. So I talk about laws of thermodynamics, expanded laws of information or infodynamics. When we do that, it's rather like a Rubik's cube. The laws of physics can be understood
00:53:51.900 --> 00:53:54.920 Dr Jude Currivan: both as a as a simple coming together.
00:53:55.000 --> 00:54:01.800 Dr Jude Currivan: which which can and bring together, but bring together both quantum physics and relativity. Physics, which have
00:54:01.830 --> 00:54:13.270 Dr Jude Currivan: string theory was trying to do for a long time, was trying to reconcile them. This is a a new approach to the potential to reconcile them, and it's an approach
00:54:13.390 --> 00:54:22.380 Dr Jude Currivan: that's founded on evidence at all scales of existence, as I mentioned, and the patterns that that evidence is showing up support
00:54:22.410 --> 00:54:45.759 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: what I'm sharing, but also support the holographic nature of our universe. Right? Right? Exactly. Exactly. The other thing I wanted to ask you about, because I'm a big science fiction. Buff, I love all the Science Fiction movies is an idea that's become very, very popular now is the idea of a multiverse that there's not just one universe, but almost an infinite number of universes.
00:54:45.960 --> 00:54:54.689 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And I'm curious. How does that fit in, or does it, or does it not fit into this idea of a a consciousness, information based universe.
00:54:54.700 --> 00:55:13.419 Dr Jude Currivan: It depends how you define the multiverse or a multiverse, because one sort of train of thought that that's now being, I think. Just put aside. is that a parallel universes and many what's called the many worlds hypothesis, which is basically that every quantum
00:55:13.470 --> 00:55:26.339 Dr Jude Currivan: action is is replicated because of its indeterminism is replicated. So we have trillions on trillions of infinities of universes, and that's really been debunked now, pretty much.
00:55:26.600 --> 00:55:52.349 Dr Jude Currivan: But the possibility of a multiverse is there? Because if we're saying which this evidence is is leading us to, that, our universe or the appearance of our universe is a great thought in the mind of the cosmos, then our universe. The best evidence we have now is that it's a finite thought. It began 13.8 billion years ago. It will come to a finite end and rather like a bubble.
00:55:52.860 --> 00:56:05.719 Dr Jude Currivan: It's it's ending releases all. It's it's encapsulated experience and sentence back into the Cosmic Mind Cosmic Plan, which
00:56:05.980 --> 00:56:14.349 Dr Jude Currivan: all traditions, as far as we have any sense of, tell us, is infinite and eternal. So an infinite eternal cosmos
00:56:14.450 --> 00:56:21.899 Dr Jude Currivan: and a finite universe, which may have other finite universes as a plethora
00:56:21.940 --> 00:56:25.179 Dr Jude Currivan: of thought forms as a as a multiverse.
00:56:25.380 --> 00:56:33.379 Dr Jude Currivan: But we have no evidence at all what we do have is what came before the first moment of the big breath.
00:56:33.590 --> 00:56:38.100 Dr Jude Currivan: and that suggests that they could well be
00:56:38.110 --> 00:56:42.510 Dr Jude Currivan: other universes that you know, effectively
00:56:42.920 --> 00:56:46.539 Dr Jude Currivan: ended, and in some way gave birth to ours.
00:56:47.030 --> 00:57:03.839 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: so so it's sort of like this universe is one thought in the mind of the universe, but they were probably the cosmos. But there could have been other thoughts in the mind of the cosmos that existed before, and will exist after
00:57:03.850 --> 00:57:13.040 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: an exist. Perhaps you know, we space within our universe. But you could say, yes alongside. Yeah.
00:57:13.330 --> 00:57:31.089 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Oh, it. It was such a pleasure to to have this conversation with you. Dr. Jude. yeah, I'm just curious. Are you working on another book? Since you've done so many so far, I have. Well, the cosmic hologram and and the story, Guy, we're but one and 2 of a trilogy.
00:57:31.180 --> 00:57:51.359 Dr Jude Currivan: And so the third book is slowly bubbling at the moment, and hopefully we'll come forward in the next year or so.
00:57:51.450 --> 00:58:23.130 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: very important one. So well, Dr. Jude, thank you so much for taking the time out of your busy schedule to come on my show. I truly appreciate it. It was wonderful getting to know you. And please, if you ever make it to New York City, please let me know, and we'll definitely have to meet up. Okay? Oh, some. That's so kind. I've loved being with you and and your wonderful community, and and thank you for all the work you're doing. This is so important, as you say, to to help people to open up their awareness.
00:58:23.130 --> 00:58:49.989 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Yes, I'm their awareness right right, and to remind ourselves that we don't know everything, and that there's always something new to learn, and that as time goes on, more and more is revealed. Yes, it's very much a work in progress. Yes, exactly. Exactly. Well, thank you so much, Dr. Jude, and I wish you much success with this book, and I can't wait to read the the next book when it comes out.
00:58:50.070 --> 00:58:58.629 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And of course, thank you, my loyal listeners, for tuning in each week, as you always do. I'm so grateful for you. Without you there is no show.
00:58:58.690 --> 00:59:14.670 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and of course, if you missed any part of today's show, make sure to catch the replay on talk radio, dot, Nyc and and all the major podcasting platforms, apple, Google, stitcher, spotify Pandora. I heart radio. We're all over the place, so make sure you catch us there
00:59:15.150 --> 00:59:16.400 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: next week.
00:59:16.410 --> 00:59:26.849 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: oh, next week it's the first week of July, so it's probably a Me. Only show. I don't think I have a guess. Next week. So tune in and we'll see what I'm gonna talk about next week.
00:59:26.990 --> 00:59:30.950 Thank you all for tuning in, and we will talk to you next week.
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