Thursdays 11:00am - 12:00pm (EDT)
WHAT WILL THE AUDIENCE LEARN?
The audience will gain a perspective on how the word "race" perpetuates racism and it should be taken out of our vocabulary.
EPISODE SUMMARY:
Most of us know that race is a social construct, but are we aware of its original intent and how the creation of this category contributes to current day racism? The use of race influences the outcome and treatment of individuals in areas such as real estate, specialized skill positions, social situations, educational endeavors, finance, medical, law enforcement and more.
Join Rev. Dr. TLC, as she talks with her guest, Ricky Wade, cofounder of the American Redneck Company. They will address some of these issues as well as his Rehumanization Efforts and Projects which are aimed at educating old and young to transcend their thought processes regarding race and to view fellow human beings as human.
www.theamericanredneckcompany.com
app (the American Redneck Company or The AR App),
TikTok (RickyWadeARC),
Facebook (End Race in America).
Tune in for this important conversation at TalkRadio.nyc.
00:00:41.520 --> 00:00:55.390 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: Hello, and welcome to the dismantle racism show. I'm your host to Reverend Dr. Tlc. The goal of this show is to eradicate and dismantle racism, and we really want to educate you in the process.
00:00:55.400 --> 00:01:07.649 I want to invite you. If you're listening in, please be sure to make comments on the Youtube page, and let us know what you think about the conversation that we're having. If you're watching it after
00:01:07.810 --> 00:01:26.190 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: we have gone live. Please be sure to leave your comments as well, because we really want to hear from you, and if you like the show, if you love the show. Tell other people about this show. The guests who come on here are really fabulous and explaining
00:01:26.200 --> 00:01:37.260 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: I ways in which we can dismantle racism in this country. So if you're truly truly committed to that being your goal, help spread the word, because it takes all of us to be involved in
00:01:37.530 --> 00:01:55.769 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: championing the rights of others, and making sure that racial equity is the norm. So help us to spread the word please, by liking us, sharing our information with other folks downloading it. Wherever you get your podcast.
00:01:55.780 --> 00:02:09.130 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: make sure that you subscribe to dismantling racism with wherever Dr. Tlc. Excuse me, dismantle racism my book is dismantling racism. And if you haven't picked up your copy yet
00:02:09.770 --> 00:02:28.770 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: Black History month is the perfect time for you to read dismantling racism, healing separation from the inside out. It's also a perfect time for you to stream my meditations that go along with the book. You can stream them anywhere that you get your music.
00:02:29.680 --> 00:02:33.929 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: Now I want to invite you into a dynamic conversation today
00:02:34.220 --> 00:02:41.159 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: on the foundation of racism is really race this word race
00:02:41.570 --> 00:02:48.790 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: that is socially constructed. You've heard me talk about racism being race being socially constructed before
00:02:48.950 --> 00:02:54.880 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: today. My guest is going to talk about less end that word race.
00:02:55.690 --> 00:03:02.860 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: But before we begin we're going to do what we always do. We're going to center ourselves and ground ourselves. Why?
00:03:03.350 --> 00:03:11.970 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: Because whenever we engage in conversations that might evoke such powerful emotions. We want to make sure that we're grounded.
00:03:12.080 --> 00:03:14.240 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: We want to make sure that we are centered.
00:03:14.320 --> 00:03:18.730 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: We want to make sure that we remember who we are
00:03:19.070 --> 00:03:28.480 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: in the conversation, and it helps us if we can be grounded and focus to think about what's our goal in the conversation
00:03:28.770 --> 00:03:29.980 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: on race.
00:03:30.060 --> 00:03:32.970 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: so it helps us not to get to heat it.
00:03:34.100 --> 00:03:37.579 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: so invite you. If you would just take a moment.
00:03:38.440 --> 00:03:39.869 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: close your eyes.
00:03:40.190 --> 00:03:41.600 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: and less prepare.
00:03:45.420 --> 00:03:47.540 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: I invite you to begin
00:03:48.340 --> 00:03:50.279 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: by taking a deep breath in
00:03:52.050 --> 00:03:53.990 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: and holding that breath.
00:03:55.580 --> 00:03:57.200 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: and then exhale.
00:04:00.800 --> 00:04:02.619 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: Take another deep breath in.
00:04:04.400 --> 00:04:05.580 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: hold it.
00:04:07.580 --> 00:04:09.140 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: and exhale.
00:04:11.930 --> 00:04:14.880 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: and take one more deep breath in
00:04:17.110 --> 00:04:18.580 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: and hold it.
00:04:19.660 --> 00:04:22.100 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: and slowly exhale
00:04:25.050 --> 00:04:27.010 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: still, your body relaxing.
00:04:29.760 --> 00:04:32.789 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: feel you connecting with your inner guide.
00:04:33.810 --> 00:04:35.569 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: your divine wisdom.
00:04:37.070 --> 00:04:38.590 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: Breathe in
00:04:38.730 --> 00:04:40.390 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: and out normally.
00:04:44.440 --> 00:04:46.889 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: and let your breath remind you
00:04:47.030 --> 00:04:48.620 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: of your humanity.
00:04:50.680 --> 00:04:54.690 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: Let your breath remind you of your interconnectedness
00:04:56.900 --> 00:04:58.750 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: with the people that you love.
00:04:59.520 --> 00:05:01.370 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: the people in your community
00:05:02.210 --> 00:05:04.270 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: and the people throughout the world.
00:05:07.900 --> 00:05:11.620 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: Let your breath remind you of your divinity.
00:05:14.460 --> 00:05:16.930 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: that you are created
00:05:17.190 --> 00:05:18.490 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: from love.
00:05:20.770 --> 00:05:23.950 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: and you are created from something holy
00:05:25.970 --> 00:05:28.409 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: and just like you. Your neighbor
00:05:29.020 --> 00:05:31.010 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: is created from divinity.
00:05:31.930 --> 00:05:33.260 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: Your enemy
00:05:33.280 --> 00:05:35.480 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: is created from divinity.
00:05:37.300 --> 00:05:40.330 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: and though they may not connect with their divinity.
00:05:41.230 --> 00:05:44.260 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: it's important for you to remember
00:05:45.770 --> 00:05:47.130 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: your divinity
00:05:47.740 --> 00:05:49.100 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: and theirs.
00:05:52.040 --> 00:05:55.899 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: Just breathe in and out, and let that settle into your bones.
00:05:59.700 --> 00:06:03.720 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: Breathe in and out, remembering that you are loved.
00:06:05.830 --> 00:06:08.239 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: and you are love itself.
00:06:11.570 --> 00:06:14.900 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: and love is the only thing that can drive out hate.
00:06:19.600 --> 00:06:21.090 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: Breathe in
00:06:21.670 --> 00:06:23.110 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: and out.
00:06:24.860 --> 00:06:26.640 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: connecting with your power
00:06:29.560 --> 00:06:31.700 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: connected with your ability
00:06:32.270 --> 00:06:34.439 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: to change the status quo.
00:06:37.850 --> 00:06:40.400 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: Remember what you do matters.
00:06:43.470 --> 00:06:46.639 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: and you are the one that you've been waiting for
00:06:47.840 --> 00:06:49.490 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: to change the world.
00:06:50.190 --> 00:06:51.850 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: to change the system.
00:06:52.450 --> 00:06:54.239 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: to change your community
00:06:56.800 --> 00:06:59.360 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: to even change your family
00:07:03.830 --> 00:07:05.290 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: in
00:07:05.620 --> 00:07:06.980 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: and out.
00:07:09.010 --> 00:07:11.810 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: and recognize that the power of one
00:07:12.990 --> 00:07:14.950 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: contributes to the power
00:07:15.640 --> 00:07:16.679 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: of many.
00:07:19.430 --> 00:07:21.340 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: So breathe in and out.
00:07:22.170 --> 00:07:24.220 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: and remind yourself
00:07:24.810 --> 00:07:29.249 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: that you are a champion for racial equity.
00:07:30.500 --> 00:07:32.969 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: and you're powerful beyond belief.
00:07:37.180 --> 00:07:39.469 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: So take one more deep breath in.
00:07:41.430 --> 00:07:43.060 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: sign it out.
00:07:44.560 --> 00:07:46.180 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: open your eyes.
00:07:47.150 --> 00:07:48.689 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: And let's begin.
00:07:52.400 --> 00:07:55.499 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: We are in black history month.
00:07:55.530 --> 00:08:01.169 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: and for me I think that every month of the year is black history, not because
00:08:01.770 --> 00:08:04.520 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: black people, black Americans
00:08:05.180 --> 00:08:06.810 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: we help contribute
00:08:07.000 --> 00:08:09.400 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: to this great country.
00:08:10.340 --> 00:08:13.570 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: But the reason why we have black History month is because
00:08:13.700 --> 00:08:16.179 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: we have not been recognized
00:08:17.080 --> 00:08:21.110 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: as we should have been recognized in years past.
00:08:21.230 --> 00:08:23.509 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: So this month was created
00:08:23.710 --> 00:08:25.100 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: to highlight
00:08:25.840 --> 00:08:27.619 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: some of our achievements
00:08:28.100 --> 00:08:29.679 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: and accomplishments.
00:08:29.920 --> 00:08:34.230 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: But the other thing that this month does is it also highlights
00:08:34.409 --> 00:08:36.139 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: what we have been through
00:08:36.190 --> 00:08:37.620 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: in this country
00:08:37.940 --> 00:08:48.920 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: so black History month really isn't just about all the wonderful things that we've done in terms of contributing, but it sheds a light into American history.
00:08:49.140 --> 00:08:52.089 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: So we get to see the travesty as well.
00:08:52.510 --> 00:08:59.599 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: We also get to see the resilience of black people in America, I mean. Just think about it.
00:08:59.810 --> 00:09:09.110 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: We are overcomers. If we've been able to deal with everything that we've experienced in this country and still turn out to be
00:09:09.660 --> 00:09:12.239 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: some of the most brilliant people
00:09:13.140 --> 00:09:14.709 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: in this world
00:09:16.740 --> 00:09:17.690 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: man
00:09:17.910 --> 00:09:19.710 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: that is outstanding.
00:09:20.930 --> 00:09:26.060 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: And one of the things that happens, though, is that we relegate black History month
00:09:26.210 --> 00:09:28.470 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: to one month.
00:09:28.910 --> 00:09:32.400 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: because those who want to maintain the status quo
00:09:32.630 --> 00:09:34.169 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: don't want us to know
00:09:34.270 --> 00:09:35.530 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: our power.
00:09:36.590 --> 00:09:40.110 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: They don't want us to know our power when we work together
00:09:40.260 --> 00:09:42.610 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: across races.
00:09:44.000 --> 00:09:45.609 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: But it is important
00:09:45.780 --> 00:09:49.910 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: for you to know the history of this country
00:09:50.700 --> 00:09:52.230 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: at the very least.
00:09:52.760 --> 00:09:56.730 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: So when people don't want to discuss critical race theory
00:09:56.780 --> 00:09:59.110 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: is because they don't want you to know
00:09:59.300 --> 00:10:10.720 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: about the history of this country. Now, to be sure, critical race theory is an academic, and it's a legal framework, and it's been around since the seventies. It's just gain momentum
00:10:11.220 --> 00:10:13.230 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: in the last couple of years.
00:10:13.410 --> 00:10:29.620 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: and critical race theory is really all about teaching that racism is systemic. It is a part of the American fabric, and it it encompasses education, housing the prison system, health care.
00:10:30.180 --> 00:10:47.380 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: It recognizes that it is beyond just our individual biases. And so when people refuse to allow critical race theory, or really culturally relevant pedagogy to be taught in school is because they want to maintain a system.
00:10:49.360 --> 00:10:51.070 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: Why must one fear
00:10:51.750 --> 00:10:52.790 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: history
00:10:53.710 --> 00:10:57.469 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: to be quite honest? When we don't talk about history?
00:10:57.590 --> 00:11:01.809 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: We not only hurt people of color, but we are white people as well.
00:11:01.980 --> 00:11:04.620 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: I was doing a top just the other night.
00:11:04.670 --> 00:11:11.359 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: and a young white woman said to me how angry she was that she did not learn
00:11:11.520 --> 00:11:12.870 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: her history
00:11:14.210 --> 00:11:15.750 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: in the correct way.
00:11:16.750 --> 00:11:17.980 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: That really
00:11:18.180 --> 00:11:27.820 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: history, of course, is always to from the side of the conqueror. She only knew a small percentage, and she said quite frankly, i'm angry about it.
00:11:28.250 --> 00:11:30.490 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: She's not the first person I've heard say that
00:11:31.380 --> 00:11:37.260 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: I've heard many folks talk about that particularly since the murder of George Floyd.
00:11:40.300 --> 00:11:41.369 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: I think
00:11:41.740 --> 00:11:48.200 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: that people not knowing the history in this country, is one of the reasons why people were so shocked
00:11:48.640 --> 00:11:53.199 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: that racism is as bad as it is in this country.
00:11:53.350 --> 00:11:55.430 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: because I had people to say to me
00:11:55.900 --> 00:12:00.329 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: after George Floyd was murdered. I had no idea that things were that bad
00:12:03.410 --> 00:12:05.240 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: because they weren't paying attention
00:12:07.050 --> 00:12:09.239 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: to what was going on in this country.
00:12:09.470 --> 00:12:11.979 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: So I want to invite you to go back
00:12:13.320 --> 00:12:15.009 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: during Black History month
00:12:15.130 --> 00:12:33.940 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: and really uncover Don't. Just look at all of the dynamic things that black folks did really uncover what was going on in this country years ago. And what's going on right now, because the only way you can change a system is to have knowledge of that system
00:12:34.530 --> 00:12:36.190 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: is to understand
00:12:36.410 --> 00:12:37.430 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: how
00:12:37.940 --> 00:12:40.500 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: terms like race
00:12:41.430 --> 00:12:42.840 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: came into being.
00:12:43.600 --> 00:12:46.230 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: and to understand the legal system.
00:12:47.100 --> 00:12:49.639 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: Well, to day we're actually going to be talking
00:12:49.880 --> 00:13:09.600 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: a little bit about the word race, and I say a little bit, because this conversation we're going to have today. It may go all over the place, but we're going to talk about the word race, and it's social construction as we've done before. But my guest today, Ricky Wade, is really going to talk about Why, it's important to end race.
00:13:10.520 --> 00:13:13.860 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: But we're going to go deep into our conversation today.
00:13:14.250 --> 00:13:20.730 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: because Ricky, who has years of working with law enforcement.
00:13:21.640 --> 00:13:26.239 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: we're going to get into the conversation even of how race
00:13:27.020 --> 00:13:28.120 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: showed up
00:13:28.810 --> 00:13:31.010 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: when 5 black
00:13:31.070 --> 00:13:32.770 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: police officers
00:13:32.990 --> 00:13:35.250 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: beat Tyre Nichols
00:13:35.600 --> 00:13:37.390 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: to the point of death.
00:13:37.600 --> 00:13:39.949 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: What does race have to do with that.
00:13:40.450 --> 00:13:44.939 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: So we want to get into that. Because my guest today Ricky Wade.
00:13:45.040 --> 00:13:50.300 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: is a visionary who's focused on re-humanizing America.
00:13:50.830 --> 00:13:55.840 talking about the ways in which we can see each other as humans.
00:13:56.150 --> 00:14:00.910 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: Ricky has worked with the government before he's worked in corporate America.
00:14:00.990 --> 00:14:03.280 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: and so he's created
00:14:03.340 --> 00:14:05.270 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: and race in America.
00:14:05.360 --> 00:14:09.960 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: Yeah, he's co-founded the Company American redneck.
00:14:10.630 --> 00:14:13.179 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: So after we return from the break.
00:14:13.210 --> 00:14:22.310 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: i'm delighted to welcome my guests for today, Ricky Wade, this is the dismantle racism show we'll be right back.
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00:16:37.190 --> 00:16:51.119 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: We're back with the Dismantle Racism show. I'm. Your host of Reverend Dr. Tlc. And today my guest is Ricky Wade, and I want to welcome you to the show. Ricky. Thank you so much for being here.
00:16:51.380 --> 00:16:54.809 Ricky Wade: Dr. Tlc. I am thrilled to be here. Thank you for having me.
00:16:55.160 --> 00:16:55.740 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: Okay.
00:16:56.120 --> 00:17:00.100 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: Okay, I wanted to just jump right into it.
00:17:00.300 --> 00:17:06.770 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: you know. Normally, I start by asking people how do you ground yourself and do all of that. But you know what I want to do today.
00:17:06.910 --> 00:17:08.390 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: I want to ask you.
00:17:09.119 --> 00:17:12.380 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: how are you doing as a black man
00:17:13.349 --> 00:17:14.770 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: as a. As a
00:17:14.920 --> 00:17:21.519 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: a man who shares the same skin tone, because I know you prefer not to use those
00:17:21.810 --> 00:17:23.200 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: those labels.
00:17:24.119 --> 00:17:33.409 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: and we'll talk about that hopefully, as we're as we're going through, because that's what you're in races. But I want to ask you as a person who shares the same skin tone
00:17:33.930 --> 00:17:35.580 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: as Tiree Nichols
00:17:36.480 --> 00:17:39.080 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: as a person who has worked closely
00:17:39.620 --> 00:17:40.510 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: with
00:17:42.140 --> 00:17:48.300 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: law officials. I wouldn't know. How are you doing so? Let's start with with you as the person
00:17:48.390 --> 00:17:49.939 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: how you're doing, because
00:17:50.640 --> 00:17:52.420 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: it's difficult for me
00:17:52.570 --> 00:17:56.129 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: to see, and I don't watch any of those by the way, but
00:17:56.750 --> 00:17:58.530 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: it's difficult for me.
00:17:58.870 --> 00:18:03.249 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: just as a person who is in the same community to see that. But I would imagine
00:18:04.280 --> 00:18:06.940 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: my feelings are a little bit different
00:18:07.030 --> 00:18:08.280 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: than yours.
00:18:08.340 --> 00:18:10.459 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: As a person who shares.
00:18:11.060 --> 00:18:12.680 I believe the same
00:18:12.820 --> 00:18:15.410 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: gender as
00:18:15.880 --> 00:18:20.329 Ricky Wade: I appreciate that question. So first I'm. I'm doing fine.
00:18:20.360 --> 00:18:26.149 Ricky Wade: You You learn after a while to be grateful for whatever you have i'm grateful that
00:18:26.210 --> 00:18:41.719 Ricky Wade: otherwise we've watched what Tiree Nichols had to go through. I didn't have to go through it so heartbroken for him, heartbroken for his family, and as an American, because, as you mentioned, i'm not going to call anybody black or white. This part of our rehumanization project as an American.
00:18:41.870 --> 00:18:44.029 Ricky Wade: Like most Americans. I'm appalled
00:18:44.180 --> 00:18:45.170 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: seeing
00:18:45.220 --> 00:18:53.459 Ricky Wade: the Tyre Nichols and his treatment in the in the way that that took place didn't surprise me very much, just as the same with
00:18:53.480 --> 00:19:05.109 Ricky Wade: a mud. Arbury in the way he was murdered. Didn't surprise me very much in the in the same with George Floyd. These are actions that have taken place many times. They're just not necessarily televised.
00:19:05.140 --> 00:19:16.820 Ricky Wade: So Van Jones wrote a great article, and i'm not a big Cnn fan by any means. However, I keep an open mind. But he wrote a great article about the dehumanization, the the humanizing.
00:19:16.940 --> 00:19:24.639 Ricky Wade: humanizing power of race, and how it has effect on everybody, and which I've said for years. Race is a human problem. It affects everyone.
00:19:24.760 --> 00:19:37.920 Ricky Wade: including people of the darker hue like you and I, because when you get into the police room, although most and I mean most of the police officers and the law enforce and I work with are amazing sacrificing individuals.
00:19:37.930 --> 00:19:53.180 Ricky Wade: You do have those bad apples who view certain neighborhoods based on their skin tones as they'll refer to them as war zones or or areas. You don't want to be because they're talking. They're not talking about the buildings of the stores. They're talking about the people
00:19:53.230 --> 00:19:54.840 Ricky Wade: in those areas.
00:19:54.870 --> 00:19:57.989 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: I've been on the receiving end of
00:19:58.030 --> 00:20:01.999 Ricky Wade: a power-hungry police officer who would pull me over.
00:20:02.140 --> 00:20:11.669 Ricky Wade: They exert their authority, and who happened to be the same skin tone because when you talk about race, and it's true in this creation, and hopefully we get into some of that.
00:20:11.910 --> 00:20:13.250 Ricky Wade: It was created
00:20:13.740 --> 00:20:14.590 Ricky Wade: for
00:20:15.150 --> 00:20:17.160 Ricky Wade: a hierarchy. So to speak
00:20:17.180 --> 00:20:29.339 Ricky Wade: you have white. You have non-white, and then you have black, and it was to put black at the bottom. This is Dehumanized. This is this is you're not human. You don't have the same to the same emotions, so
00:20:29.460 --> 00:20:35.749 Ricky Wade: the unfortunate power of it again. It works on everyone. So people who who themselves are assigned as black.
00:20:36.080 --> 00:20:38.929 Ricky Wade: but now receive power if they're corrupt.
00:20:39.120 --> 00:20:44.009 Ricky Wade: know that they can now exercise that power on those other people who are not seen as human.
00:20:44.060 --> 00:20:50.909 Ricky Wade: For instance, those officers would be hard pressed to try to pull that on a lady that looked like Taylor Swift.
00:20:50.960 --> 00:20:57.609 Ricky Wade: And I say, i'm not surprised, because if you listen to that video, and
00:20:57.990 --> 00:20:58.690 Ricky Wade: I don't
00:20:59.330 --> 00:21:00.740 Ricky Wade: encourage
00:21:00.820 --> 00:21:07.229 Ricky Wade: anyone to watch it right. But I advise, if you do want to be able to appreciate what Tiree Nichols went through.
00:21:07.250 --> 00:21:10.100 Ricky Wade: Watch it yourself. It broke my heart to do so.
00:21:10.220 --> 00:21:13.230 Ricky Wade: The officers kept repeating, and kept yelling.
00:21:13.300 --> 00:21:15.570 Ricky Wade: Give me your hands! Get on the ground.
00:21:15.640 --> 00:21:20.649 Ricky Wade: Knowing that he was not resisting, knowing that he was already on the ground. This was done on purpose.
00:21:20.880 --> 00:21:22.440 Ricky Wade: and I and i'll explain.
00:21:22.500 --> 00:21:38.880 Ricky Wade: They know that there's a chance they're being recorded. There's a chance. Witnesses are hearing what they're doing. So if they're yelling, give me your hands. Stop resisting. Get your hand off my gun. That gives them clearance to say, hey! This witness heard me saying, Give me your hands! He was resisting, and I
00:21:39.060 --> 00:21:43.060 Ricky Wade: defend it myself, where I did my officer duties to defend my partners
00:21:43.880 --> 00:21:47.209 Ricky Wade: the disturbing part about what I just said. It tells you they've done this before
00:21:47.690 --> 00:22:07.290 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: absolutely because there's no way that you could. What it be the person like that, and they have never done it before. And in my mind, just even as a psychologist, I know I haven't worked D directly with law enforcement. But one of the things that happens is you start by exercising a little power.
00:22:07.300 --> 00:22:19.870 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: a little control, and then it just gets worse and worse, and worse and worse. And that's the difficult part about all of this. And so I can appreciate you talking about it being a place
00:22:20.080 --> 00:22:23.700 of power, because clearly it is about
00:22:24.170 --> 00:22:25.160 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: power.
00:22:25.790 --> 00:22:35.419 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: And I also believe, as you're saying, if people forget their humanity, and they forget, and their divinity as well. But here's the other thing.
00:22:36.430 --> 00:22:39.509 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: One thing to be clear is at the end of the day, though
00:22:40.340 --> 00:22:43.960 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: even though you're in power, you are still assigned.
00:22:44.240 --> 00:22:51.670 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: being a black person, and the laws are different Still, for you, I don't care if you're a black police officer versus a white
00:22:51.760 --> 00:23:01.899 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: police officer, so I use those terms. I know you, you don't, and so I have to speak in the ways in which I do but like. At the end of the day
00:23:02.640 --> 00:23:07.849 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: things still might be different for you, even though you're all wearing blue.
00:23:08.270 --> 00:23:11.719 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: still might be different for you. And sometimes I think that
00:23:12.970 --> 00:23:15.480 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: police officers who are
00:23:15.600 --> 00:23:16.550 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: black
00:23:16.910 --> 00:23:19.350 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: to get that in the moment
00:23:19.740 --> 00:23:28.330 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: right. In fact, I've talked to some police officers, so I know that they forget that. And if I, if I may, Dr. Tlc.
00:23:28.940 --> 00:23:38.120 Ricky Wade: I and I. I listen to a many, many of your videos, including one that was 2 weeks ago about starting a social cause or starting a social movement.
00:23:38.140 --> 00:23:39.660 Ricky Wade: and one of the things that
00:23:39.910 --> 00:23:45.500 Ricky Wade: I try to impart on everybody I speak to is i'm not going to
00:23:45.860 --> 00:24:03.690 Ricky Wade: speak about what i'm against so much as to what i'm for, and what I am for is having the people like it. Derek Shobin, who killed George Floyd or the or the men who murdered a MoD arbore, or these officers in Memphis who murder tyre nickels be almost lumped in the same. Like these are people who
00:24:03.700 --> 00:24:13.880 Ricky Wade: use the cut the law or the color of law in the case of a MoD. Arbury, to then exact terrorism on. So by removing the
00:24:13.890 --> 00:24:29.890 Ricky Wade: idea of race, i'm not saying These 5 black police officers are these 2 white people in in Georgia, or this one white person with with George Floyd? I'm. Saying, these people who succumb to evil, abused authority and murdered innocent people. So
00:24:30.070 --> 00:24:46.869 Ricky Wade: that's the whole point of our ending race like Don't don't get angrier because it's Derek Chauvin or some meant this police officers be angry that this evil took place, and we need and and bring attention to it as a way to put a stop to it and re-humanize
00:24:46.880 --> 00:24:51.960 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: Ricky. I completely agree with that 100%
00:24:52.030 --> 00:24:53.839 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: to get mad at
00:24:54.010 --> 00:24:55.500 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: what happened?
00:24:57.340 --> 00:24:58.390 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: And
00:24:59.450 --> 00:25:02.670 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: I would I would say that I will say this.
00:25:03.500 --> 00:25:11.430 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: I in no way think that all police officers are bad right, and I do think that when things like that happens it gives
00:25:11.830 --> 00:25:16.430 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: the whole of police officers a bad name. I guess that.
00:25:17.010 --> 00:25:24.220 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: and I understand that particularly coming from a race when one of us does something, it gives all of us a bad name.
00:25:24.250 --> 00:25:26.269 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: I will
00:25:26.360 --> 00:25:28.220 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: aware of that.
00:25:30.100 --> 00:25:31.200 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: and
00:25:31.450 --> 00:25:38.620 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: I think that there are additional things that need to occur, though such as educating folks
00:25:38.950 --> 00:25:42.859 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: around, how implicit biases in particularly
00:25:43.190 --> 00:25:51.420 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: police officers, how you may not be intentionally thinking i'm going to go out and be the black man to death today.
00:25:51.920 --> 00:25:56.540 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: But there's a difference between when you pull a white man over, and when you pull a black man over
00:25:56.600 --> 00:25:59.620 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: absolutely. If we don't, understand
00:25:59.960 --> 00:26:01.040 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: how
00:26:01.120 --> 00:26:02.440 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: race
00:26:02.470 --> 00:26:09.129 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: this concept of race, the socially constructed. If we don't understand how that impacts the psyche.
00:26:10.160 --> 00:26:11.820 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: how do we
00:26:12.570 --> 00:26:18.190 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: really address that? And so I want you to speak from your place of taking race out of the equation
00:26:18.600 --> 00:26:32.169 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: and talking to this group of people like pretend like you're going to talk to a group of police officers, and you're gonna say I don't want you to think about race because we want to in race Talk to me about your program in in. We'll talk to me about 2 things.
00:26:32.710 --> 00:26:34.730 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: Why you want to end race
00:26:35.040 --> 00:26:53.169 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: and then talk to me about your program of re-humanization and we probably won't. Get to all of it before our first before our next break. But start with why you want to end right absolutely. So. It started from a very young age of. We learn at a very early age what a black crayon is, what a white crayon is.
00:26:53.240 --> 00:26:57.589 Ricky Wade: And then you're told also at a very early age. Hey, you're black!
00:26:57.680 --> 00:27:04.439 Ricky Wade: And then you now reconciling this for myself like Wait a minute, my sweatshirt black. I I know what a black crown, and as a white crown is.
00:27:04.520 --> 00:27:06.180 Ricky Wade: But my skin tone is brown
00:27:06.790 --> 00:27:25.010 Ricky Wade: that that that unreasonably legalization lasted for a while, and it wasn't until the movie Malcolm X. Came out when I was about 10 years old, where he first goes to prison, and he's told to read the dictionary, and it defines black as all these evil things. But then we're assigned to Black and I'm. Pointing at the screen for my dad like, hey.
00:27:25.020 --> 00:27:27.169 Ricky Wade: there, there, there's what I've been talking about.
00:27:27.500 --> 00:27:29.229 Ricky Wade: Well, you get into
00:27:29.710 --> 00:27:35.300 Ricky Wade: on Well, growing up Where I came from was Albany, Georgia, where everybody there a lot of people look like me.
00:27:35.330 --> 00:27:42.020 Ricky Wade: but based on how you talk or how you act. You might be called white, regardless of that confusion
00:27:42.270 --> 00:27:43.030 Ricky Wade: state.
00:27:43.350 --> 00:28:00.039 Ricky Wade: and then getting him to undergrad, and I went into a college that was initially a Confederate college in the Charles and South Carolina to Military College, where now i'm one of the few people that look like me, and i'm called the Black Guy. Okay, now we're talking skin tone assignments
00:28:00.710 --> 00:28:05.110 Ricky Wade: on in the corporate America, as you mentioned where i'm being told for staffing.
00:28:05.160 --> 00:28:12.370 Ricky Wade: Don't, send me any black people. We only want to see people that aren't black. Okay, that's a huge problem. But it was when I got into
00:28:12.500 --> 00:28:24.300 Ricky Wade: a position where I can work with law enforcement, and the law Enforcement officer says to me, hey, if you were walking down an alley and you saw a man coming up to you. You would be more concerned if he was black. Then he was white, and I said, No.
00:28:24.500 --> 00:28:26.440 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: anybody walking down an alley
00:28:26.560 --> 00:28:29.829 Ricky Wade: if i'm in an Alley I'm. Going to be concerned, regardless of who it is.
00:28:29.860 --> 00:28:35.699 Ricky Wade: So it was at that point that I realized. Wait a minute. Where? Where did this come from, and then we could talk about that. If we have time.
00:28:36.000 --> 00:28:51.269 Ricky Wade: how is it used? And most importantly, why are we still allowing it so? That's where I got into. Hey, law enforcement! Stop calling people black or white. Let's call them human. And we came up with an alternative skin tone system to
00:28:51.280 --> 00:28:59.429 Ricky Wade: the the describe people that is more accurate, less divisive, than something as dehumanizing of, or as black and white.
00:28:59.530 --> 00:29:05.800 Ricky Wade: because when it in a nutshell, black and white race itself was created to enable slavery in America.
00:29:05.840 --> 00:29:13.250 Ricky Wade: there is no reason to hold on to it other than the answer. This is how we've always done it, which has never been good enough for me.
00:29:13.320 --> 00:29:27.900 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: right? And and ultimately we're talking about the same thing. Right? We're talking about getting rid of racism which is tied to the word race actually. And so when we, you know, if we stop
00:29:28.110 --> 00:29:31.350 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: living in a world where everything is based on hierarchy.
00:29:31.610 --> 00:29:33.560 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: and it's based on humanity.
00:29:34.070 --> 00:29:37.040 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: I think the world would be a much better place.
00:29:37.120 --> 00:29:40.019 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: And so I want to. When we come back
00:29:41.040 --> 00:29:45.759 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: to understand your process, then of teaching about
00:29:45.830 --> 00:29:52.290 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: humanization, and I talk about our shared humanity, and of course, being the reverend.
00:29:52.350 --> 00:29:56.220 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: I talk about our divinity because I think
00:29:56.830 --> 00:30:01.189 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: we don't see each other as being sacred beings Enough.
00:30:02.250 --> 00:30:04.889 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: because I know that this is just
00:30:05.110 --> 00:30:12.909 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: the skin i'm in. This is the body that I am in. I'm much more than this. And so
00:30:13.180 --> 00:30:19.889 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: you might not do this in the work that you do, but to add that divinity piece in there, too, is powerful
00:30:20.600 --> 00:30:23.230 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: right, because it raises it up
00:30:23.280 --> 00:30:24.330 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: another
00:30:24.670 --> 00:30:28.500 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: level. So when we get back, though I I I want to talk about
00:30:28.520 --> 00:30:32.079 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: How do you do it? How do you? How do you teach people
00:30:32.240 --> 00:30:41.710 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: to humanize other folks? So we're going to take a break. This is the dismantle Racism show. We'll be right back with my guess. Ricky Wade.
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00:32:43.350 --> 00:32:48.839 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: We're back with my guests, Ricky Wade, and we've been talking about ending race
00:32:48.940 --> 00:32:58.699 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: in America, and we've been engaging in some conversations around Tyre Nichols, and also we're engaging in conversation
00:32:58.880 --> 00:33:04.419 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: about your project that you are working on bricky, which is the re-humanization
00:33:04.610 --> 00:33:09.600 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: of America really. So i'd love to hear
00:33:10.740 --> 00:33:22.660 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: what happens when you work with individuals trying to get them to see other individuals as human, and then I hope that we'll have time, because I want to go back to another question
00:33:22.680 --> 00:33:24.790 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: around those 5
00:33:25.080 --> 00:33:28.040 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: officers who share the same skin tone
00:33:28.480 --> 00:33:34.789 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: as Tiree and I want to just parse that out a little bit more. So let's start with with what you're doing with your work.
00:33:35.100 --> 00:33:36.420 Ricky Wade: Excellent. Thank you.
00:33:36.500 --> 00:33:48.229 Ricky Wade: Thank you, Dr. Tlc. So as you state so eloquently in many of your videos about divinity. And as you explain me once, not, we're just remembering who you are, but remembering who you are.
00:33:48.300 --> 00:33:57.170 Ricky Wade: We are all spiritual beings, and, as you put it, we are in a human form. We have our outside shell, which includes our our skin tone.
00:33:57.410 --> 00:33:58.140 Ricky Wade: That
00:33:58.310 --> 00:34:03.779 Ricky Wade: common connection is what I remind people of when I, when I share this message, like
00:34:03.830 --> 00:34:20.720 Ricky Wade: race, was meant to separate us, not unite. So we came up with a lot of names for our company. AR. We wanted to use the initials AR. Because at our core we are a gun company, so we think a salt rifle armor like rifle
00:34:20.830 --> 00:34:40.770 Ricky Wade: we wanted to. We talked about Americans re in a humanization project or the Anti-race Company. However, we didn't want to be anything anti or angry. Ricky didn't didn't work very well at all. However, American redneck pays homage to the Blair. The battle of Blair Mountain. Now we're becoming familiar with the history of Tulsa Oklahoma
00:34:40.780 --> 00:34:49.000 Ricky Wade: in 1,921. What Many people do not know that there is. There were 2 times that the Federal Government either did or plan to bomb its own citizens.
00:34:49.020 --> 00:34:53.270 Ricky Wade: first in Tulsa, Oklahoma, and then 3 months later in Blair Mountain.
00:34:53.460 --> 00:34:57.459 Ricky Wade: Blair mountain was the conflict between coal miners.
00:34:57.780 --> 00:35:04.280 Ricky Wade: poor or middle-class coal miners, who were being taken advantage of by coal companies, and in
00:35:04.300 --> 00:35:06.429 Ricky Wade: and by extension the Federal government.
00:35:06.470 --> 00:35:14.749 Ricky Wade: These coal miners in united and use their red bandana that they would take, use the tea coal out of their mouths, tied them around their neck, so they knew
00:35:14.810 --> 00:35:17.610 Ricky Wade: who the friendlies were who not to shoot.
00:35:17.840 --> 00:35:19.709 Ricky Wade: So that's where the
00:35:19.740 --> 00:35:25.520 Ricky Wade: term redneck came from that we use. So we are America's redneck army
00:35:25.870 --> 00:35:35.580 Ricky Wade: uniting people, regardless of skin tone, because that's what their American redneck army was. They were made up of all different skin tones to teach one another that we are not that different.
00:35:35.950 --> 00:35:36.839 Ricky Wade: So
00:35:37.220 --> 00:35:54.249 Ricky Wade: when I talk to people about this, I try to get them to imagine. And I give history lessons about our era of slavery, that people were not slaves. They were human beings that, like slaves. One of the books I subscribe to people that
00:35:54.260 --> 00:36:07.420 Ricky Wade: going to your own book, I've actually recommended people, Rick re dismantling red racism, which is an easy way into how to dismantle racism. But if I want people to get a true view of history, and
00:36:07.490 --> 00:36:12.960 Ricky Wade: what it's truly like. I I recommend them read the Book Slave Life in Georgia, by John Brown.
00:36:12.980 --> 00:36:16.519 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: which was a first hand or first person account of what
00:36:16.540 --> 00:36:17.339 Ricky Wade: the
00:36:17.480 --> 00:36:26.109 Ricky Wade: like Southern States, how they really treated people, how communities, how entire societies were truly built!
00:36:26.340 --> 00:36:31.879 Ricky Wade: What's starving is! You start seeing some new, some similarities between 1,820,
00:36:32.000 --> 00:36:33.120 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: and now
00:36:33.230 --> 00:36:36.329 Ricky Wade: it would be a hierarchy, and it would be a assignment.
00:36:36.460 --> 00:36:37.810 Ricky Wade: and I always
00:36:37.830 --> 00:36:51.240 Ricky Wade: put it out there to people regardless of skin tone, but particularly people who are don't match my skin tone when we're told slavery was always just back. Then we'll imagine your mother being treated like that, or imagine your daughter, or your brother, or yourself
00:36:51.270 --> 00:36:53.350 Ricky Wade: being treated in those ways to
00:36:53.480 --> 00:36:55.189 Ricky Wade: rebuild empathy
00:36:55.410 --> 00:36:57.000 Ricky Wade: for your fellow human being
00:36:57.200 --> 00:37:00.259 Ricky Wade: Usually that drive that drives the point home.
00:37:00.460 --> 00:37:01.609 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: So.
00:37:02.100 --> 00:37:04.759 Ricky Wade: And then I go further. It's race
00:37:04.830 --> 00:37:06.160 Ricky Wade: as it is now.
00:37:06.780 --> 00:37:11.970 Ricky Wade: as if I thought it was bad when in the eighties, when I was growing up in nineties. In my view, it's almost getting worse.
00:37:12.040 --> 00:37:19.570 Ricky Wade: The lines are more divided. They're they're more solidly drawn as black, here, white, there, Hispanic here.
00:37:19.850 --> 00:37:32.390 Ricky Wade: whereas the the actual defining of race, If I ask somebody to find black man or define what man you you have a hard time do putting it in words. You typically point to somebody. If the assignment is in itself subjective.
00:37:32.700 --> 00:37:40.120 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: of course, right, it's experience because there was a time in history where you only had to have one eighth
00:37:40.270 --> 00:37:42.549 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: of black blood and be considered.
00:37:42.620 --> 00:37:50.519 Ricky Wade: Funny thing about that. If people want proof that we do have an issue, and that there are people who are still trying to push that hate.
00:37:50.640 --> 00:37:53.380 Ricky Wade: I put it on our website on our forum.
00:37:53.680 --> 00:37:59.760 Ricky Wade: What a chance for people to come and speak their piece! And I believe ending race is an unbeatable argument.
00:38:00.080 --> 00:38:04.910 Ricky Wade: I am not black. We are not by the the art description Black
00:38:05.020 --> 00:38:08.610 Ricky Wade: fine, where I say we're American because we're American citizens.
00:38:08.770 --> 00:38:12.689 Ricky Wade: I then put that argument and advertise it on gab.com.
00:38:12.780 --> 00:38:16.649 Ricky Wade: because I know there are many people on Gab that probably disagree with me, and I was correct.
00:38:16.800 --> 00:38:23.529 Ricky Wade: and they came to our website. Still, there, if you want to see it yourself. The American Rednet Company Com. Look at the Forum and spew
00:38:23.740 --> 00:38:34.559 Ricky Wade: some of the most hateful things, but one of the ways they try to justify their view on race was to cite that rule which is a slavery era and a Jim Crow error rule of one eighth of
00:38:34.640 --> 00:38:36.700 Ricky Wade: if you have one eighth.
00:38:36.810 --> 00:38:43.149 Ricky Wade: one of your 8 relatives. Your your ancestors are black. Then you are now assigned black.
00:38:43.520 --> 00:38:45.910 Ricky Wade: I don't adhere to those rules. Now
00:38:46.290 --> 00:38:49.140 Ricky Wade: I talked about wanting to talk one into.
00:38:49.420 --> 00:38:52.070 Ricky Wade: speak on what we're for as opposed what we're against
00:38:52.270 --> 00:39:01.029 Ricky Wade: the American Redneck Company is made to provoke. It's made to to be provocative, and want people to say, hey, why are you calling yourself redneck Doesn't that mean races? No, it Does not
00:39:01.060 --> 00:39:11.830 Ricky Wade: it it is our re-humanization project, and I show that to definition or the true history behind the term redneck. But right behind American Redneck Company as a slogan and race in America
00:39:12.030 --> 00:39:32.060 Ricky Wade: this is something i'm okay with saying what I don't want, because it's so prevalent in our society. You can't buy a a gun. You can't fill out many go government applications. You can't fill out a home loan, application or not being asked in some cases required to put your race your assigned race. But if race is subjected, and we know it was meant for a negative purpose.
00:39:32.070 --> 00:39:33.089 Ricky Wade: There's really
00:39:33.180 --> 00:39:34.700 Ricky Wade: no just, no
00:39:34.880 --> 00:39:40.470 Ricky Wade: quantifiable or valid reason to continue to follow. So so Ricky, one of the things that that.
00:39:41.220 --> 00:39:46.879 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: So there are 2 things that are coming to mind there. Lots but 2. I'll, i'll focus on just for a second
00:39:46.910 --> 00:39:51.220 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: One thing that you're doing in your re-humanization project
00:39:51.280 --> 00:40:04.350 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: is You're requiring people to think at a higher level and at a different level. Most people don't want to think for themselves. Most people want to be told what to do, and the easy thing to do is to not have to think about
00:40:04.470 --> 00:40:14.309 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: us as humans. But just to think about us based on our race, gender and sex, and all these other things right? So it it's a big task
00:40:15.000 --> 00:40:23.229 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: to do. And I think that for some people just like when I use the term dismantling racism they like, is it really possible to do that?
00:40:23.650 --> 00:40:29.119 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: It's so. I believe that it is possible to do it. It may take a while for it to happen.
00:40:29.480 --> 00:40:39.780 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: but it is possible to do it. So I want to just tell you that. Thank you first of all, for the work that you are doing to dismantle racism in this country.
00:40:39.870 --> 00:40:40.879 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: and
00:40:40.900 --> 00:41:00.230 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: just to encourage you to keep going with the work that you're doing as well, because you're also educating people, educating people on some people never knew what redneck still for, hey? I'm. From Mississippi, and when we talk about a red neck it's it's certainly isn't what you have described to us this morning, so I just want
00:41:00.860 --> 00:41:02.860 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: to encourage you, and
00:41:04.230 --> 00:41:11.449 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: I think the more you can have those conversations, and the more you can walk in those spaces
00:41:11.510 --> 00:41:14.899 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: where you're connected with law enforcement.
00:41:15.200 --> 00:41:18.149 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: and really try to get people, though.
00:41:18.190 --> 00:41:20.169 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: to see their bias
00:41:20.440 --> 00:41:21.930 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: based on
00:41:23.270 --> 00:41:24.960 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: ha people's skin tone.
00:41:25.000 --> 00:41:38.480 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: Because, just like you, I've been asked questions. I was want to ask if I were walking down the street, and I saw a group of black men coming towards me. Versus and this was a white man who asked me versus a group of white men what I feel
00:41:38.590 --> 00:41:48.459 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: threatened with the black man. So, first of all, let's face it right, but it's racist to even ask that question, and I said well, quite frankly, I would feel more threatened by the white man.
00:41:48.940 --> 00:41:53.099 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: and that shows that they don't understand what it's like
00:41:53.630 --> 00:41:57.259 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: for a person with our skin tone to walk
00:41:57.510 --> 00:42:00.469 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: in these spaces.
00:42:00.530 --> 00:42:16.569 Ricky Wade: This has been one of the easiest discussions I've ever had to have in my life with most people. For instance, David Hawking's wrote a book Power versus Force, and in and he describes that link like Kinesiology Study that when you hear truth, it actually makes you stronger.
00:42:16.590 --> 00:42:34.239 Ricky Wade: and when you hear falsehoods it makes you weaker. For instance, when I was growing up and I was learning history, I couldn't stand it in school because I was told slavery was about States rights. That's a false statement. The States rights that that slavery was about was the Northern States not enforcing slave laws.
00:42:34.250 --> 00:42:47.379 Ricky Wade: So when I tell truth, like the story of John Brown or the truly who we are, people are encouraged to hit here, and most of the time I get a Thank you. Well, so let me just say this. Let's just be clear when you say people are encouraged.
00:42:47.390 --> 00:43:10.390 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: That's the people that you're talking to who are interested in engaging in this, because there's a whole group of people out here like I said at the beginning of the show. They don't want to hear that stuff. They don't want to hear about critical race theory. They don't want to hear about culturally relevant pedagogy, because there's a fear associated with it. So what we're talking about when we talk about racism and hierarchy
00:43:11.250 --> 00:43:29.489 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: folks want to keep the majority of people ignorant, because ignorance is bondage and ignorance maintains the status quo. So what you're doing is you're challenging the system that's out there. You're saying there is a different way that we can approach this. Now.
00:43:29.500 --> 00:43:34.960 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: I would love to see your work in more
00:43:35.290 --> 00:43:38.160 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: law enforcement divisions.
00:43:38.300 --> 00:43:44.210 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: It takes a person like you to be able to say, hey, take a look at what you're doing.
00:43:44.320 --> 00:43:49.950 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: Take a look at the fact that you respond very differently, I can tell you.
00:43:50.310 --> 00:44:07.329 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: We talk about the word race being socially constructed, is socially constructed. But it is so baked in this society, and I don't remember if I've shared this on the show or not. If I did, I'm going to repeat it again. But I can remember when I worked in a high school.
00:44:07.680 --> 00:44:14.209 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: and I distinctly we were. We were in a big meeting one day a faculty staff meeting.
00:44:15.500 --> 00:44:24.209 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: and this school was predominantly black and brown in terms of of of skin tone, right in terms of of how we define race.
00:44:24.690 --> 00:44:25.709 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: and
00:44:25.790 --> 00:44:27.709 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: the teachers were majority weight.
00:44:27.890 --> 00:44:32.400 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: and they started talking about the in school suspension room.
00:44:32.670 --> 00:44:39.799 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: and when the vice principal got up to talk about the kids being sent to in school suspension.
00:44:39.840 --> 00:44:41.550 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: You know what he called it
00:44:41.810 --> 00:44:43.229 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: the Holding row.
00:44:43.830 --> 00:44:54.079 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: and the first time he said it. It was like a punch in my stomach the second time he said it. It was like another punch of my stomach, and I stood up as being probably one of
00:44:54.350 --> 00:44:58.220 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: 3, maybe people of color, maybe maybe 4
00:44:58.550 --> 00:45:08.809 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: in this large room of folks. And I said, could you stop using that word because you using the word a holding room. You're already setting them up like for prison.
00:45:08.820 --> 00:45:21.679 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: Absolutely. That means you're going to treat them like that. And of course we know the school to person pipeline. Some people don't. If you don't know about it, people go and look it up. That means that you already think
00:45:21.720 --> 00:45:31.749 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: of these particular students as you're going to jail, because this is a holding room, and I said, I wish my kid would come home and tell me that they were in the holding room.
00:45:31.900 --> 00:45:39.479 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: How offensive is that! But that shows how it's baked in our society, and of course this person wouldn't have fought
00:45:39.760 --> 00:45:41.229 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: that he was being
00:45:41.520 --> 00:45:43.790 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: racist. He was conditioned.
00:45:43.900 --> 00:45:54.049 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: He's conditioned exactly, but we're going to be right back because we have to take a break, and when we come back. We'll continue our conversation on ending race.
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00:47:59.630 --> 00:48:02.879 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: we're back with the dismantle racism show
00:48:03.080 --> 00:48:04.109 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: Ricky.
00:48:04.670 --> 00:48:12.779 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: because I know our time will go really quickly. I just want to go back to something that we were talking about with
00:48:13.350 --> 00:48:15.740 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: these 5 police officers. Yeah.
00:48:16.060 --> 00:48:20.720 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: who share the same skin tone as Tyre Nichols. And
00:48:21.650 --> 00:48:25.049 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: we talk about dehumanizing folks.
00:48:26.040 --> 00:48:29.909 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: I'd love to hear your perspective
00:48:31.600 --> 00:48:36.980 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: on what you think happens when we do it within our same.
00:48:37.640 --> 00:48:45.870 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: You know, racial group skin tone group, because it's one thing that we talk about the biases that other folks have
00:48:46.100 --> 00:48:47.180 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: towards us.
00:48:48.770 --> 00:48:56.259 Ricky Wade: Can you give me your perspective on what you think? I think it's the same thing that happens to people who
00:48:56.500 --> 00:49:03.970 Ricky Wade: get a mob mentality and group up to do evil and back each other up, regardless of skin tone. This was
00:49:04.590 --> 00:49:05.520 Ricky Wade: because.
00:49:05.550 --> 00:49:12.989 Ricky Wade: whether they could call themselves white, black, or what have you? They still view Tyre Nichols as black less than
00:49:13.240 --> 00:49:15.379 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: so that type of
00:49:15.550 --> 00:49:17.410 Ricky Wade: again mob mentality
00:49:17.460 --> 00:49:22.890 Ricky Wade: because it's coupled with power from each other, negative energy from each other. They they!
00:49:23.260 --> 00:49:28.910 Ricky Wade: I don't think there's anything difference between the 5 of them doing it, or 5 people who are lighter in skin tone.
00:49:29.000 --> 00:49:32.399 Ricky Wade: The only difference is they got caught. They've done this before.
00:49:32.660 --> 00:49:37.779 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: but it yeah, that's the sad part. But help me to understand this.
00:49:38.280 --> 00:49:41.330 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: When you say you don't think there's a difference.
00:49:42.820 --> 00:49:44.179 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: I would love
00:49:44.870 --> 00:49:46.200 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: to think that.
00:49:48.070 --> 00:49:51.350 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: But then, if that person were white, that they stopped
00:49:51.420 --> 00:49:54.759 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: in a lighter skin tone, something stopped them.
00:49:54.810 --> 00:50:05.510 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: Something stops them. So what is the thing? What is the thing that stops them from doing it to a person with a lighter skin tone. But they can do it to a person with a darker
00:50:05.610 --> 00:50:08.170 Ricky Wade: they wouldn't. They would be held accountable
00:50:08.340 --> 00:50:17.669 Ricky Wade: if somebody with lighter, much lighter skin tone that that there was a lot more visibility there. The fact is, evil has many tools.
00:50:17.730 --> 00:50:19.440 Ricky Wade: Race is just one of them.
00:50:19.800 --> 00:50:38.590 Ricky Wade: and evil is what got into these individuals that enabled them not just to get a think they can get away with what they were doing, but to decide to do it. In the first place, they the lack of empathy. They didn't do themselves as like Tiree Nichols, and that that is brought upon by race that is brought upon my class
00:50:38.600 --> 00:50:43.490 Ricky Wade: by position. In this case they are a law enforcement. He is not by by
00:50:43.670 --> 00:50:46.659 Ricky Wade: standing standing in society. So
00:50:46.680 --> 00:50:50.259 Ricky Wade: one thing I I've always been. I've i'm always careful of.
00:50:50.480 --> 00:51:05.270 Ricky Wade: I want to be gauge on my actions rather than appearance. So I have to gauge people on their actions, whether they're a, and instead of their appearance, their actions were appalling. I do think Hiry Nichols appearance played a part in it, but regardless of how they looked.
00:51:05.340 --> 00:51:07.839 Ricky Wade: I just wanted to to be held accountable
00:51:08.090 --> 00:51:20.000 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: right right? And so what I appreciate you saying about this is that it's complicated. First of all, this whole thing is very complicated.
00:51:20.050 --> 00:51:37.579 Ricky Wade: colorism and racism almost being same thing, and that's my way of saying back to people If I in, if we in race, how are we going to enforce, or how we're going to hold people accountable for discrimination. Well, we have colorism, which pretty much accomplishes the same thing. But it doesn't have the dehumanizing power of race.
00:51:37.640 --> 00:51:38.859 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: Yes.
00:51:38.980 --> 00:51:40.870 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: Yes.
00:51:41.620 --> 00:51:51.150 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: okay. The only thing that very much scared me about this is now as a father I have. I have 2 little boys, God willing, i'll have a third
00:51:51.180 --> 00:51:52.720 Ricky Wade: this year. But
00:51:53.020 --> 00:51:59.749 Ricky Wade: I well congratulations as you slip that in we're watching that
00:51:59.810 --> 00:52:12.249 Ricky Wade: imagining, like Tyre Nichols mother being her watching my child. So there's 3 options I. We have here. If we know there's a problem we know race is a problem option. Number one with my kids is saying, hey.
00:52:12.300 --> 00:52:15.759 Ricky Wade: just tell them they're black, so they could go along with the flow
00:52:15.980 --> 00:52:22.689 Ricky Wade: which has never been a viable option for me. Option number 2, the same with the kinesiology study. Just tell them the truth.
00:52:22.820 --> 00:52:23.890 Ricky Wade: but maybe don't
00:52:23.980 --> 00:52:27.049 Ricky Wade: broadcast it. So you don't look like a weirdo when you go to school and
00:52:27.090 --> 00:52:28.340 Ricky Wade: say you're not black.
00:52:28.470 --> 00:52:35.059 Ricky Wade: and then there's option number 3, which is what we're doing. I tell my children the truth. I teach them the truth, and i'm going to be loud enough
00:52:35.100 --> 00:52:42.509 Ricky Wade: and spread this message far enough so that when they're old enough to say, hey, i'm not black. I'm American. They're not going to sound completely weird.
00:52:42.560 --> 00:52:45.919 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: Well, so what we do.
00:52:45.970 --> 00:52:52.190 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: Yeah, and and and not black, but human, or all of those things. But I will tell you.
00:52:52.730 --> 00:52:56.869 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: Ricky, When my kids were younger, I tried for the longest
00:52:57.060 --> 00:52:59.680 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: not to get into the conversation
00:52:59.700 --> 00:53:03.400 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: on race which has been a part of my life. My whole life
00:53:03.710 --> 00:53:13.090 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: and and I don't have any bones about saying that i'm a black woman, because I absolutely love all that comes with the culture of of of the black
00:53:13.160 --> 00:53:15.859 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: woman. And so I tried that.
00:53:16.030 --> 00:53:20.649 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: I try not introducing it to them too early. And guess what
00:53:21.060 --> 00:53:22.830 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: you know. At 3
00:53:23.460 --> 00:53:35.949 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: someone told my daughter. I can't play with you because you have brown skin, you know she's first grade. Somebody says to her, oh, if you had been born back then, when they were talking about history, you would have been a slave. Well, first of all.
00:53:36.310 --> 00:53:47.529 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: there were white people who were also enslaved and indentured people, and there were there were people who look like me who are free.
00:53:47.640 --> 00:53:58.989 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: And the teacher never said a word, never one word to the student, because she told me she didn't know what to say, because of course, I talked to her about it because my daughter comes home.
00:53:59.310 --> 00:54:06.640 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: and I and I and i'm like what is wrong with you. She tell me what happened until I noticed her behavior being a little.
00:54:06.850 --> 00:54:08.979 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: and so I tried that method.
00:54:09.330 --> 00:54:13.080 Ricky Wade: So if I may, I hope I explain myself well enough.
00:54:13.100 --> 00:54:17.419 Ricky Wade: I'm not going to hide race or the issues from my children.
00:54:17.550 --> 00:54:35.360 Ricky Wade: I'm going to put on a plus upon them, or teach them this new approach, and when I take them to the school I teach it to their teachers. I tell it to their principals. I've spoken to School Board meeting, so it's not a matter of I'm not going to tell them about race. I'll actually absolutely tell them about history and what's going on. But this is how we are fixed.
00:54:35.370 --> 00:54:43.120 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: Yes, yes, so I really I I I appreciate that, and thank you for for that
00:54:43.580 --> 00:55:00.099 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: clarity on that. But I I realized that you would educate them because you have to educate them for their protection. So I I absolutely love that, you know, Ricky. As I said, I knew we would. We've come to the end of the show, and there would be many more questions. And
00:55:00.330 --> 00:55:04.340 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: I just want to say, I appreciate your time of being here.
00:55:05.070 --> 00:55:11.730 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: Are there any other final comments before we have to end the show today of anything that you'd like to say?
00:55:11.760 --> 00:55:19.399 Ricky Wade: Yes, man, First of all, thank you so much for having me here. I am honored to be on your show, and to any and everybody listening.
00:55:19.900 --> 00:55:22.469 Ricky Wade: joining our crusade to end race in America is free.
00:55:22.500 --> 00:55:25.870 Ricky Wade: It's simply as simple as recognize that you are a human.
00:55:25.980 --> 00:55:33.289 Ricky Wade: not black or white. Please feel free to check out our website. See, see the work we're doing. We're on tik Tok
00:55:33.310 --> 00:55:41.939 Ricky Wade: making making many announcements coming out. So we appreciate everyone. We appreciate you very much, and God bless everyone! We thank you.
00:55:42.330 --> 00:55:48.140 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: And that website is the American Redneck company.com right?
00:55:48.350 --> 00:56:01.000 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: Please please please do check out Ricky and his co-founders of the American Redneck Company. We really want to do all we can to end race in America.
00:56:01.710 --> 00:56:06.159 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: And now I invite you to stay tuned for the conscious consultant hour
00:56:06.460 --> 00:56:11.359 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: with Sam Leibowitz, where he helps you to walk through life with the greatest of ease and joy.
00:56:11.410 --> 00:56:26.540 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: Thank you for being here today to my guest, Ricky way. Thank you to my listeners. Please make sure that you subscribe on the various platforms, so that you will get the dismantle racism show at any time anywhere
00:56:26.930 --> 00:56:39.080 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: may today you tap into that sacred part of you that allows you to make choices that manifest the good in you and those around. You know that we are all one.
00:56:39.560 --> 00:56:45.169 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: and we exist because of one another, make it a priority to share love.
00:56:45.370 --> 00:56:48.780 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: hope, compassion, and peace. Today
00:56:49.300 --> 00:56:54.859 Rev. Dr. Terrlyn Curry Avery: be well, be safe, be encouraged until next time bye, for now
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