WHAT WILL THE AUDIENCE LEARN?
Our audience of business owners and employers will learn how to take control of their company, from time management to employee engagement, and from leadership to company culture. They will learn the comprehensive approach to the many issues that employers face today.
EPISODE SUMMARY:
Running a business in these turbulent times can be quite challenging for any employer or a business owner. The issues of employee retention, a changing workforce that demands more flexibility via remote work, and a host of new laws, rules, and regulations force businesses to react to conflicting employee demands on a near-weekly basis.
How do you take control - from time management to employee engagement, and from leadership to company culture? You need a comprehensive approach, and that is where my next guest comes into the picture.
Join me on the next episode of Employment Law Today, where my guest, Sandra Kearney, and I will discuss how her company, Human Power Solutions, provides management consulting, employee engagement, and a host of advisory services for business owners!
Sandra’s Profile: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sandrakearney
Company Website: www.hpowersolutions.com
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Sandra Kearney is a seasonal sales and management professional with small business owner experience in a variety of industries. They talk about Sandra's early career in the industry and how she ended up discovering her passion and building her business as well as launching her firm due to her network as well as other things due to her success. She now lives in Westboro, Massachusetts, and has three children, two grandchildren, and five siblings. Sandra shares her story, starting by working for two of the premier hospitality companies, and she learned that all business revolves around people and people's happiness. After leaving Marriott, she dabbled a bit in recruiting and got her training certification. Through this, she found out she enjoyed helping people reach their goals. After owning a gym for several years, she decided to sell it and spend more time with her kids and ended up going back to school to get her master's in her 50s. Later on, they give some advice to the audience about owning a business, and some insight into challenges that employers are experiencing in the workplace today.
The first segment is briefly reviewed, and they start talking about the stereotypes of the new generation and how they just want to be trusted and treated like normal people and that they provide a valuable contribution, and need to be provided training for those professional skills necessary for the real world that they aren't provided in school and is missing from a lot of companies. Eric adds to that, talking about how younger millennials and gen z just have a different style of working, communicating, and expressing their needs, and because of this, employers are missing the boat to connect with their employees.
They go over some challenges and problems with time management communication between intergenerational employees. They talk about how many companies need to look over workplace wellness/ mental health awareness. Sandra shares a traumatic experience she had during covid-19 two years ago and how important it is to bring it to light and give your employees tools to manage their stress and time. They talk about the stigma around mental health, how it shouldn't be treated like dirty work, and how more companies should start talking about it in the workplace. It shouldn't be expected and is unrealistic for people to have all these things impacting their life and just show up to work acting fine as if nothing happened.
Sandra talks about her unique philosophy and trademarks for methods and approaches that Human Power Solutions takes to distinguish itself from other employment relations or HR marketing/ consulting firms, and shares a story about training on HR in interviewing.
00:00:55.740 --> 00:01:02.610 Eric Sarver, Esq. - Employment Law Today: Reason evening, welcome to employment law today i'm your host erick soccer i'm an employment law and business law attorney.
00:01:02.820 --> 00:01:10.320 Eric Sarver, Esq. - Employment Law Today: And I host this live weekly talk radio show, and this live video broadcast every Tuesday night from 5pm to 6pm.
00:01:10.590 --> 00:01:21.630 Eric Sarver, Esq. - Employment Law Today: Eastern standard time where I have guests, to discuss some of the most novel and interesting topics and issues that employees and business owners face today during these trying times.
00:01:22.020 --> 00:01:35.790 Eric Sarver, Esq. - Employment Law Today: And in that regard i'm very pleased to have with us on the show our special guest this sondra kearney's Andre is the President and co founder of human power solutions sondra welcome to the show.
00:01:35.970 --> 00:01:37.800 Sandra Kearney - Human Power Solutions: Thank you so much Eric I appreciate it.
00:01:38.070 --> 00:01:47.220 Eric Sarver, Esq. - Employment Law Today: Sure it's great to have you on you know really think we have some interesting topics that you and I, and Scott and discussing tonight, so I definitely look forward to it.
00:01:49.290 --> 00:01:57.960 Eric Sarver, Esq. - Employment Law Today: yeah for sure, I want to actually just tell our guests little bit more about you sondra and then I will read our topic go into our questions.
00:01:59.400 --> 00:02:06.480 Eric Sarver, Esq. - Employment Law Today: Alright, great so as I mentioned folks our guest tonight is sondra kearney co President of human power solutions.
00:02:06.810 --> 00:02:13.560 Eric Sarver, Esq. - Employment Law Today: Sandra is a seasoned sales and management professional with small business owner experience in a variety of industries.
00:02:14.040 --> 00:02:21.660 Eric Sarver, Esq. - Employment Law Today: Her early career was based in the service hospitality industry, including Marriott international and brinker international aka chilis.
00:02:22.080 --> 00:02:29.490 Eric Sarver, Esq. - Employment Law Today: Where should we see the world class training and gain valuable skills, experience and knowledge of business processes and effectiveness.
00:02:30.000 --> 00:02:38.850 Eric Sarver, Esq. - Employment Law Today: sandy was always promoted quickly to hire responsibilities working in leadership positions in the areas of marketing management employee relations.
00:02:39.630 --> 00:02:46.140 Eric Sarver, Esq. - Employment Law Today: Excuse me and customer service she earned her personal training certificate certification weather in 2006.
00:02:46.470 --> 00:02:54.690 Eric Sarver, Esq. - Employment Law Today: And discovered her ultimate passion in helping people to achieve greater results physically mentally and in every area of life.
00:02:55.170 --> 00:02:59.250 Eric Sarver, Esq. - Employment Law Today: sandy purchase new life, health and wellness a fitness Center in 2008.
00:02:59.670 --> 00:03:11.160 Eric Sarver, Esq. - Employment Law Today: She applied for sales marketing and process improvement skills and double the membership each year growing quickly over 500 members, she completed her goal in 2015 by selling the business and a healthy profit.
00:03:11.790 --> 00:03:20.910 Eric Sarver, Esq. - Employment Law Today: Sandra has also spent the last seven years in the learning and development space she launched her own firm human power solutions in December of 2019.
00:03:21.390 --> 00:03:30.900 Eric Sarver, Esq. - Employment Law Today: It has been an immediate success data her network and focus on client experience sandy's ability to network serve others and connect people is a large part of success.
00:03:31.290 --> 00:03:38.670 Eric Sarver, Esq. - Employment Law Today: sandy earned her that her master's excuse me in organizational leadership from the Nichols college in 2018.
00:03:39.090 --> 00:03:55.710 Eric Sarver, Esq. - Employment Law Today: and has a bs in chemistry from assumption university she lives in westboro Massachusetts is a mother of three kids two grandchildren and has five siblings and once again sandy is on it for the great that you're joining us this evening.
00:03:55.770 --> 00:03:57.900 Sandra Kearney - Human Power Solutions: Thank you so much Eric for having me, I appreciate it.
00:03:58.650 --> 00:04:11.550 Eric Sarver, Esq. - Employment Law Today: Sure things sandy sure thing so i'm just going to share with our audience consists of small midsize businesses in various fields and fashions our topic which is comprehensive, consulting for employers.
00:04:12.300 --> 00:04:18.780 Eric Sarver, Esq. - Employment Law Today: You know the thing is that running a business in these turbulent times can be quite challenging for any employer or any business owner.
00:04:19.290 --> 00:04:34.170 Eric Sarver, Esq. - Employment Law Today: The issues that employee retention a changing workforce that demands more flexibility via remote work and a host of new laws, rules and regulations really forced businesses to react to conflicting employee demands on a new weekly basis.
00:04:35.280 --> 00:04:42.030 Eric Sarver, Esq. - Employment Law Today: So the question becomes, how do you the business owner, the employer take control from time management to employee engagement.
00:04:42.870 --> 00:04:50.340 Eric Sarver, Esq. - Employment Law Today: And for leadership to company culture, you need a comprehensive approach, and that is where my next guest Sandra kearney comes into picture.
00:04:50.760 --> 00:05:01.530 Eric Sarver, Esq. - Employment Law Today: join me on this episode tonight in one love today we're sending I will discuss management consulting employee engagement and a host of advisory services for business owners.
00:05:02.040 --> 00:05:06.480 Eric Sarver, Esq. - Employment Law Today: So yeah I think we're off to a good start now sounded I wanted to ask you.
00:05:07.260 --> 00:05:22.260 Eric Sarver, Esq. - Employment Law Today: One of the questions I asked all my guests, so our audience didn't connect with you in a really powerful way it's like tell me more about yourself mainly how did your career initially start out and what prompted you to become involved with HR consulting in the form you empower solutions.
00:05:23.070 --> 00:05:25.290 Sandra Kearney - Human Power Solutions: A long story, but we won't go too long.
00:05:26.310 --> 00:05:33.690 Sandra Kearney - Human Power Solutions: Since I started my career off and hospitality, you know growing up with a family of six one of six, I was never five.
00:05:33.930 --> 00:05:38.100 Sandra Kearney - Human Power Solutions: Years might you know to please people right.
00:05:38.400 --> 00:05:38.700 Eric Sarver, Esq. - Employment Law Today: And that's.
00:05:38.790 --> 00:05:48.480 Sandra Kearney - Human Power Solutions: pretty much what what going to hospitality did for me and working for brinker and working for Marriott the there to the most premier hospitality.
00:05:49.110 --> 00:06:00.780 Sandra Kearney - Human Power Solutions: companies in the world, even today, and what they really taught me and what I really took away from that is that all business and everything we do is revolved around people and people's happiness.
00:06:01.770 --> 00:06:21.240 Sandra Kearney - Human Power Solutions: As well as correct processes right, so making sure that you have all the processes in place so that you can execute on what you're trying to do, as well as make people happy so there's a lot of moving pieces there, and you know I I left Marriott after I had my third child, I think.
00:06:22.920 --> 00:06:26.190 Sandra Kearney - Human Power Solutions: is one of those you can Johnson that kind of thing we.
00:06:26.190 --> 00:06:27.060 Eric Sarver, Esq. - Employment Law Today: Had raising kids.
00:06:27.570 --> 00:06:30.000 Sandra Kearney - Human Power Solutions: And you know I dabbled a little bit in.
00:06:30.720 --> 00:06:47.190 Sandra Kearney - Human Power Solutions: in recruiting for a couple of different recruiting firm, so I recruit I sold the recruiting services Ross place people, so I really got a feel for what the employees were looking for, as well as what the employers were looking for, so I did that, while I was raising my kids.
00:06:48.240 --> 00:07:03.930 Sandra Kearney - Human Power Solutions: And one of my son's got pretty sick, so I kind of take a step back from corporate and I decided to get my personal training, certification, just so I could work some different hours and really it was just kind of I love working, I was not going to be a stay at home mom I tried that.
00:07:03.960 --> 00:07:06.300 Sandra Kearney - Human Power Solutions: Just did not work, I like being out there with people.
00:07:06.780 --> 00:07:08.400 Sandra Kearney - Human Power Solutions: So I thought that would be really flexible.
00:07:08.790 --> 00:07:16.170 Sandra Kearney - Human Power Solutions: What I found was I really enjoyed helping people reach their goals, so in this case, it was nutritional health wellness all that.
00:07:16.530 --> 00:07:19.410 Sandra Kearney - Human Power Solutions: And so I I get I had an opportunity to purchase a gym.
00:07:19.470 --> 00:07:31.050 Sandra Kearney - Human Power Solutions: And so I purchased the gym kind of not really knowing what I was doing but knowing that I wanted to help more people, and I could figure it out and it was a corporate gym so many of the.
00:07:31.740 --> 00:07:44.580 Sandra Kearney - Human Power Solutions: clients that I had that I served were from large corporations Boston Scientific so no vn so I was working with executives and executives when you work with a personal trainer like a hairdresser you kind of hear it all.
00:07:45.660 --> 00:07:52.500 Sandra Kearney - Human Power Solutions: Of those that they have personally what's going on professionally what's happening with their teams and for seven years that's pretty much what I did.
00:07:53.250 --> 00:07:53.610 Eric Sarver, Esq. - Employment Law Today: And what.
00:07:53.730 --> 00:08:03.300 Sandra Kearney - Human Power Solutions: got me, I decided to change my career and just sell the gym and just spend more time at home with my kids my daughter was graduated from high school my younger son was sophomore in.
00:08:03.630 --> 00:08:07.980 Sandra Kearney - Human Power Solutions: High School and I want to spend the last couple of years with them, you know just not being at the gym all the time.
00:08:09.360 --> 00:08:16.320 Sandra Kearney - Human Power Solutions: I didn't get a business coach that last year, and he said when I sold the gym he said, what do you want to do, and I said, why are.
00:08:16.350 --> 00:08:16.980 Eric Sarver, Esq. - Employment Law Today: going in.
00:08:17.460 --> 00:08:22.170 Sandra Kearney - Human Power Solutions: And, and he had a training development company, he said, want to come work for me and I said i'll give it a shot.
00:08:23.790 --> 00:08:24.870 Sandra Kearney - Human Power Solutions: Just fell in love with him.
00:08:26.310 --> 00:08:43.290 Sandra Kearney - Human Power Solutions: i've worked for him for a year and then I decided to get back and get my master's in organizational leadership I just really didn't feel like I knew enough to to you know to to help I wanted to know more so, going back to get my masters at age 50 was pretty cool, it was a.
00:08:43.530 --> 00:08:46.320 Sandra Kearney - Human Power Solutions: great experience and I met a lot of people.
00:08:46.800 --> 00:08:52.590 Sandra Kearney - Human Power Solutions: Right and that the the correlation between personal training and coaching.
00:08:54.000 --> 00:08:56.070 Sandra Kearney - Human Power Solutions: Pretty you know it's it's pretty close.
00:08:56.850 --> 00:09:01.050 Sandra Kearney - Human Power Solutions: yeah love the space, I worked for this gentleman for about four years.
00:09:02.310 --> 00:09:08.400 Sandra Kearney - Human Power Solutions: and honestly I am an entrepreneur i'm unemployable and I really want my way.
00:09:10.260 --> 00:09:17.640 Sandra Kearney - Human Power Solutions: And so my way was serving the customers a little bit differently than what we're able to do so, I decided to go off on my own in 2019 so.
00:09:18.870 --> 00:09:29.370 Eric Sarver, Esq. - Employment Law Today: let's quickly a really great story that sounded they're they're very rich history, you know I think our audience likes to kind of understand like what, especially our entrepreneurs, the audience what made you.
00:09:30.150 --> 00:09:41.340 Eric Sarver, Esq. - Employment Law Today: find your path and what influence your path you know what I hear is couple things I kind of jumped out at me want to hear how different life circumstances may have you know, created a certain need.
00:09:41.820 --> 00:09:49.410 Eric Sarver, Esq. - Employment Law Today: A change right path, maybe you need to have less hours or, where I was at home, so that led to another path to take, and also you're out.
00:09:49.680 --> 00:09:57.900 Eric Sarver, Esq. - Employment Law Today: Maybe the prior experiences may have hone certain skills and giving you knowledge of certain situations like recruiting tells you what employee relations and then the gym.
00:09:58.170 --> 00:10:10.590 Eric Sarver, Esq. - Employment Law Today: With the executives telling you about their issues so it's like our lives, I feel events we as in certain directions and then we can learn from those experiences and then put it towards sounds like you put it sounds like you're doing now.
00:10:10.770 --> 00:10:21.300 Sandra Kearney - Human Power Solutions: yeah absolutely you know when you when I think a lot of times, entrepreneurs and business owners when bad things happen, they some some of the.
00:10:21.540 --> 00:10:32.610 Sandra Kearney - Human Power Solutions: greys and I always take it and say well this this happened so what's, the reason I may not know right now that I know there's a reason moving forward and so every every event that's happened in my life.
00:10:33.330 --> 00:10:42.060 Sandra Kearney - Human Power Solutions: it's always been I can always look back and go oh that was that moment and that's what brought me here i'll be doing this on 79.
00:10:42.240 --> 00:10:42.720 Eric Sarver, Esq. - Employment Law Today: Eight years.
00:10:42.960 --> 00:10:44.670 Sandra Kearney - Human Power Solutions: I love what we're doing right now.
00:10:45.840 --> 00:10:52.260 Eric Sarver, Esq. - Employment Law Today: that's terrific yeah it's like that you know that spark I think when I was you know and i've had my own law practice since 2001.
00:10:52.710 --> 00:10:59.280 Eric Sarver, Esq. - Employment Law Today: And one thing I learned is that you know when a problem happens and obstacles is face to face an obstacle, you have to sort of you can have.
00:10:59.670 --> 00:11:06.450 Eric Sarver, Esq. - Employment Law Today: A normal human reaction, you know, whatever emotions might be there, but then it's like okay what you know what do I need to do.
00:11:06.900 --> 00:11:15.840 Eric Sarver, Esq. - Employment Law Today: To solve this problem is to find a solution and I think that many of our listeners new audience to own their own business, who are employers or even a high level employee.
00:11:16.230 --> 00:11:25.920 Eric Sarver, Esq. - Employment Law Today: it's like their solution focus and based on like let's address the problem, not that overwhelm us and sounds like so you're doing it sounds like that might put your company does.
00:11:26.340 --> 00:11:39.660 Eric Sarver, Esq. - Employment Law Today: For your clients which kind of is a nice segue to my next question, which is about what are some of the macro level and mindful level challenges that employers are experiencing in the workplace today.
00:11:40.620 --> 00:11:42.150 Sandra Kearney - Human Power Solutions: there's so many.
00:11:43.260 --> 00:11:44.430 Sandra Kearney - Human Power Solutions: Really, this.
00:11:44.670 --> 00:11:45.690 Eric Sarver, Esq. - Employment Law Today: Is an hour long shows.
00:11:48.390 --> 00:11:59.160 Sandra Kearney - Human Power Solutions: I think the biggest thing right now is as the human the human power solutions and that wasn't on purpose, but it is the human the humaneness what we're finding on the macro level is that.
00:12:00.510 --> 00:12:10.800 Sandra Kearney - Human Power Solutions: Many companies, especially the larger ones, want to go back to the way it was and they're not they're not allowing for basically what what now is the the new normal.
00:12:11.610 --> 00:12:26.340 Sandra Kearney - Human Power Solutions: Of the hybrid leadership and the hybrid workplace so we're finding that people wanted to keep everything separate work life, separate where and it it once you let the genie out of the bottle it's out right so leaders.
00:12:28.080 --> 00:12:34.680 Sandra Kearney - Human Power Solutions: they're having a hard time with that now that's that's a big issue employees are trying to figure out.
00:12:35.370 --> 00:12:50.370 Sandra Kearney - Human Power Solutions: How can how they can have it all, you know they want to be able to have that flexibility they want to be trusted to have you know to be to get their work done and they don't want to be micromanaged that's a big piece i'll give you a quick example because that's kind of on a new.
00:12:51.210 --> 00:12:54.840 Sandra Kearney - Human Power Solutions: Oh, I bet to 20 somethings one just want to go work for Oracle.
00:12:55.140 --> 00:12:56.820 Sandra Kearney - Human Power Solutions: And what is the market.
00:12:56.850 --> 00:13:04.410 Sandra Kearney - Human Power Solutions: is working for fidelity so there was 24 2022 and they you know we have these great these rich conversations because i'm.
00:13:04.710 --> 00:13:20.040 Sandra Kearney - Human Power Solutions: You know, as I tell them they see me right, I come and go, as I please I go to lunch is I go to networking meetings, and I said I paid my dues with corporate you have to do that, because the training that you're going to get from Brett is going to be invaluable for your life.
00:13:20.490 --> 00:13:22.980 Sandra Kearney - Human Power Solutions: But we talked about their manager styles a lot.
00:13:23.190 --> 00:13:24.090 Eric Sarver, Esq. - Employment Law Today: And my.
00:13:24.270 --> 00:13:26.370 Sandra Kearney - Human Power Solutions: my daughter, has seen.
00:13:27.540 --> 00:13:37.710 Sandra Kearney - Human Power Solutions: in nine months 10 months, you know promotions and increases because she's has managers that trust her she's she's doing her job, and she does it well, because she has some leeway.
00:13:38.070 --> 00:13:46.710 Sandra Kearney - Human Power Solutions: yeah my younger son going to work for Oracle he's so excited about it, and he got this manager and he's like mom she's like he's like.
00:13:47.280 --> 00:14:00.210 Sandra Kearney - Human Power Solutions: I have a number to hit, and I can do it as I need to do it he's like no one's gonna be micromanaging me and some of the other TEAM members have people that are going to be micromanaging you know call call blitzes and all that kind of stuff.
00:14:00.240 --> 00:14:08.340 Sandra Kearney - Human Power Solutions: he's like i'm glad I don't have to do that right, so I think it's really understanding that this the new generation coming to the workplace is looking for flexibility.
00:14:08.550 --> 00:14:12.900 Sandra Kearney - Human Power Solutions: Trust and in numbers yeah things I think goals that they can hit.
00:14:13.200 --> 00:14:13.590 yeah.
00:14:15.090 --> 00:14:22.980 Eric Sarver, Esq. - Employment Law Today: yeah absolutely and another thing I told the story about your son and your daughter for now you've actually mentioned their their bosses in a positive way kids are watching the show tonight.
00:14:23.370 --> 00:14:24.240 Sandra Kearney - Human Power Solutions: yeah exactly.
00:14:24.780 --> 00:14:30.210 Eric Sarver, Esq. - Employment Law Today: You know there's a lot more there too i'm sure it also additional things on pack there, but before we do.
00:14:30.750 --> 00:14:37.920 Eric Sarver, Esq. - Employment Law Today: we're actually at our first commercial break if you can believe it but will be just let people know that folks you're listening to.
00:14:38.910 --> 00:14:44.070 Eric Sarver, Esq. - Employment Law Today: and watching women lot today i'm your host erick savoured employment law and business law attorney.
00:14:44.400 --> 00:14:50.550 Eric Sarver, Esq. - Employment Law Today: And my guest tonight is Sandra kearney, who is the CEO President founder of human power solutions.
00:14:50.910 --> 00:15:05.820 Eric Sarver, Esq. - Employment Law Today: and clearly an entrepreneur in her own right when we come back we're going to speak more about this issue of what what macro micro level challenges employers face and what employees really need so stay tuned to talk me to nyc we will be right back.
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00:17:22.740 --> 00:17:31.500 Eric Sarver, Esq. - Employment Law Today: Hello microphone there welcome back folks don't plan well today, I was telling someone to before make sure you unmute into the commercial meet so i'm i'm your host erick savoured.
00:17:31.950 --> 00:17:41.490 Eric Sarver, Esq. - Employment Law Today: Here every Tuesday night and talk to them, I see with three topics that employers grapple with and faced and in line with that tonight my guest again.
00:17:41.940 --> 00:17:48.660 Eric Sarver, Esq. - Employment Law Today: sondra currently found a human power solutions so sondra great to have you on the show this evening, thank you yeah you know.
00:17:49.200 --> 00:17:58.470 Eric Sarver, Esq. - Employment Law Today: Before our commercial break out of that last response you were giving to the question of like what are some of those macro level and micro level challenges and put his face today.
00:17:58.860 --> 00:18:03.150 Eric Sarver, Esq. - Employment Law Today: I heard you talk about another a few more than we can get to, of course, but we talked about.
00:18:03.600 --> 00:18:13.260 Eric Sarver, Esq. - Employment Law Today: The macro level, and some of the larger companies employer is not being open to change tuned for hybrid workplace right, and then the contrast of employees.
00:18:13.590 --> 00:18:26.760 Eric Sarver, Esq. - Employment Law Today: Especially young generation employees who create that change one embrace the new normal and once that hybrid experience or their own more freedom from micromanagement freedom from being overly.
00:18:27.570 --> 00:18:40.020 Eric Sarver, Esq. - Employment Law Today: You know I guess told what to do and what not and restricted, and I think it's a great point that you know, there are two sides of the equation of what the challenge or there's like what are the employees see and what do you managers see.
00:18:40.920 --> 00:18:51.120 Sandra Kearney - Human Power Solutions: yeah I agree with that and, and I think that we always hear that this this the new generation is lazier they don't want to work they actually do.
00:18:51.210 --> 00:18:51.780 Sandra Kearney - Human Power Solutions: They want.
00:18:51.960 --> 00:18:58.260 Sandra Kearney - Human Power Solutions: They work really hard you know i'm in that world i've got a 2624 22 year old yeah Mike.
00:18:58.890 --> 00:19:03.870 Sandra Kearney - Human Power Solutions: I mean their friends everyone's working they just want to be trusted and they want to be treated as people.
00:19:04.830 --> 00:19:12.450 Sandra Kearney - Human Power Solutions: And that they have a valuable contribution That being said, you have to provide training for them, how do you manage your time.
00:19:12.810 --> 00:19:19.560 Sandra Kearney - Human Power Solutions: How do you, you know, create some work life balance, what what are some of the things that you can do to to help to alleviate stress.
00:19:19.800 --> 00:19:28.170 Sandra Kearney - Human Power Solutions: So employers are also some employees are missing that boat where they they also need to give a skill set communication skills, how to give feedback.
00:19:28.830 --> 00:19:32.850 Sandra Kearney - Human Power Solutions: How to have an adult conversation when something's going wrong right.
00:19:33.660 --> 00:19:38.370 Sandra Kearney - Human Power Solutions: And that's all skills that they don't learn in school and that they're looking to their employees to provide.
00:19:38.640 --> 00:19:49.110 Sandra Kearney - Human Power Solutions: That kind of training to increase their professional skills, so they can they can move up the chain, and I think that multi generational type of training and everyone understanding each other.
00:19:49.740 --> 00:20:04.530 Sandra Kearney - Human Power Solutions: is something that we're saying it's it's a lot of fun I am when you get everyone together and there oh wait you're not, as you know, you're not as knowledgeable as I thought you were right or oh you do know more than I do, and I could tap into your I could tap into what you know.
00:20:05.670 --> 00:20:09.660 Sandra Kearney - Human Power Solutions: Getting those conversations to going going, it would be is really key.
00:20:10.650 --> 00:20:18.660 Eric Sarver, Esq. - Employment Law Today: That comes Asian that communication absolutely sandy yeah hundred percent agree with you there you know it's funny the whole thing about I hear some people.
00:20:19.290 --> 00:20:23.550 Eric Sarver, Esq. - Employment Law Today: sort of is malign the young generation, you know younger millennials and gen Z.
00:20:24.450 --> 00:20:37.470 Eric Sarver, Esq. - Employment Law Today: And it's like first of all I think i'm no longer the me generation and generation X, but that was being said about my generation 2025 years ago and i'm sure the people before then we're being called that it seems to be almost.
00:20:38.040 --> 00:20:46.770 Eric Sarver, Esq. - Employment Law Today: A time honored our time and you know, having to sort of not generation below you, but the truth is, as you said, they're not lazy they are hard they're hard working.
00:20:47.550 --> 00:20:57.600 Eric Sarver, Esq. - Employment Law Today: i've seen it in the level of entrepreneurship that they show in terms of people have multiple get jobs, while also having a startup I see people who work the way through school, and so I think.
00:20:57.990 --> 00:21:07.290 Eric Sarver, Esq. - Employment Law Today: I think a lot of times you know when the more established generation, shall we say, season or older, you will right maybe they might feel threatened by that one they don't understand.
00:21:07.770 --> 00:21:14.430 Eric Sarver, Esq. - Employment Law Today: That particular communication style the younger generation it's a shortcut and easy to just write it off as being like because.
00:21:14.730 --> 00:21:24.360 Eric Sarver, Esq. - Employment Law Today: you're lazy, but if you don't try to understand what people are saying and really take a look at the fact that they just have a different style of.
00:21:24.750 --> 00:21:37.650 Eric Sarver, Esq. - Employment Law Today: Working communicating of expressing their needs and people had 3040 years ago if you don't look at those differences, I think you as an employer i'm missing the boat and opportunity to connect with younger workers.
00:21:38.130 --> 00:21:41.730 Sandra Kearney - Human Power Solutions: And you're missing talent you're going to miss out on talent right you're going to miss out on.
00:21:41.940 --> 00:21:43.290 Sandra Kearney - Human Power Solutions: People and that's and that.
00:21:43.380 --> 00:21:53.280 Sandra Kearney - Human Power Solutions: it's that's across the board, because even you know i'm in my 50s and even are you know that my peers are saying I don't have to do this, I can do something else.
00:21:53.580 --> 00:22:03.510 Sandra Kearney - Human Power Solutions: And and employers are saying no you can't and they're moving there, so you know you've heard about the great resignation, it really wasn't that was just a great transition people just transition.
00:22:03.960 --> 00:22:19.140 Sandra Kearney - Human Power Solutions: right they weren't resigning they were leaving companies that didn't meet their needs, because they now the genie was out of the bottle and they could have flexibility they were just as productive, if not more, I know so many people that work harder and longer when they're at home.
00:22:19.740 --> 00:22:30.990 Sandra Kearney - Human Power Solutions: than they do when they're at the office taking their breaks going to coffee, you know cubicle talk and all that stuff you know, so I think there's a lot there, but time management has been one of the key.
00:22:31.620 --> 00:22:35.190 Sandra Kearney - Human Power Solutions: Micro issues in there is really teaching people how to be productive.
00:22:36.000 --> 00:22:41.700 Sandra Kearney - Human Power Solutions: In allowing people to put things in their schedule that you know feed them as well.
00:22:42.870 --> 00:22:52.320 Sandra Kearney - Human Power Solutions: So that that's that's a big one, and then the authentic leadership share a little bit about yourself, you know we're all we're all in each other's living rooms for the last two years.
00:22:53.190 --> 00:22:57.390 Sandra Kearney - Human Power Solutions: You know you don't you know we all have dogs i'm raising two grandkids who are six and four.
00:22:57.420 --> 00:22:59.640 Sandra Kearney - Human Power Solutions: You know i'm back in my mode and you know.
00:23:00.030 --> 00:23:06.540 Sandra Kearney - Human Power Solutions: I said to my babysitter I said i'm on a radio live until six do not let them knock on the door that's real right.
00:23:08.550 --> 00:23:09.930 Eric Sarver, Esq. - Employment Law Today: Sure, it is absolutely.
00:23:09.990 --> 00:23:11.760 Sandra Kearney - Human Power Solutions: So there's no reason that we can't.
00:23:11.820 --> 00:23:17.700 Sandra Kearney - Human Power Solutions: share those experiences or share what's happening now, just because we're back in the office.
00:23:18.600 --> 00:23:22.170 Eric Sarver, Esq. - Employment Law Today: yeah very good points offending Lucia but being able to let people into your.
00:23:22.530 --> 00:23:28.710 Eric Sarver, Esq. - Employment Law Today: personal life to whatever extent you know, appropriate and such but you know within proper boundaries, and I think that's a good point, I think that.
00:23:28.890 --> 00:23:33.720 Eric Sarver, Esq. - Employment Law Today: You know we all had our share of beloved little adorable zoom bombers at different ages over that you know.
00:23:34.050 --> 00:23:41.550 Eric Sarver, Esq. - Employment Law Today: When the benevolent started, so my son is to almost really three in August and when that minimum started in March of 2020 he was seven months old.
00:23:41.790 --> 00:23:51.210 Eric Sarver, Esq. - Employment Law Today: So the thing with zoom by me, except for the background, maybe crying and stuff but not like coming into the room and but he certainly then as you get older, you know one and a half to.
00:23:51.510 --> 00:24:03.570 Eric Sarver, Esq. - Employment Law Today: He loves like up to the computer and look in and we even stuff and I found that you know, a networking circles, where I come into a networking group in the city all know in my like corporate or my lawyer self and.
00:24:03.870 --> 00:24:10.230 Eric Sarver, Esq. - Employment Law Today: Not my dad self and now he will see me with my son, you know I hear when my colleagues, you think to meet on it's actually often a young.
00:24:10.800 --> 00:24:21.750 Eric Sarver, Esq. - Employment Law Today: teenage son thing it up and get ready for the fourth day you know, but to your point authentic leadership, I think is important, and also that time management piece teaching companies about that as i'm sure you do.
00:24:22.920 --> 00:24:32.160 Eric Sarver, Esq. - Employment Law Today: That whole prioritization and I had a guest last week Joel Connor who is CEO of the four day work, you know week global initiative and we talked about how you know.
00:24:32.730 --> 00:24:38.730 Eric Sarver, Esq. - Employment Law Today: companies can take it upon themselves let's say you know, to better manage people's expectations around meetings.
00:24:39.060 --> 00:24:52.560 Eric Sarver, Esq. - Employment Law Today: to shorten the length of meetings to have meetings that are maybe appropriate only and we have, I mean is everything a priority is only this part so that's I think i'm just all part of that equation right like what's a priority and what's urgent and what can we.
00:24:53.490 --> 00:25:00.570 Sandra Kearney - Human Power Solutions: yeah that urgent important matrix that's actually doing a time management couple hour session on Thursday in Boston and just.
00:25:00.570 --> 00:25:11.970 Sandra Kearney - Human Power Solutions: So we're going to talk about prioritizing like, how do you prioritize does this really need to get done who needs to be involved, you know all those kinds but, but they need, but employees need tools.
00:25:12.450 --> 00:25:24.660 Sandra Kearney - Human Power Solutions: And not just an in a it's not something that we just know right, so I think growing up and corporate with marissa we have Franklin covey we we lived and died by our Franklin covey covey planner right that was.
00:25:24.660 --> 00:25:27.150 Sandra Kearney - Human Power Solutions: In now we have so many online tools.
00:25:27.510 --> 00:25:38.640 Sandra Kearney - Human Power Solutions: What are people using either using teams are using Monday, they usually have like what are they using and really making sure that they're taking the time to train their employees and how to maximize.
00:25:38.850 --> 00:25:40.140 Sandra Kearney - Human Power Solutions: The technology that they're.
00:25:40.200 --> 00:25:45.480 Sandra Kearney - Human Power Solutions: That they're utilizing that that's missing from a lot of our companies.
00:25:46.320 --> 00:25:55.890 Eric Sarver, Esq. - Employment Law Today: Right, the training and the encouraging people to use technology and not to be fearful and not to run away from the technological change, rather, to embrace them.
00:25:56.550 --> 00:26:08.850 Eric Sarver, Esq. - Employment Law Today: I know, in my own personal experience over the years of being an attorney with employment law of small practice couple of Council associates a paralegal admin assistant and some other health different areas, but.
00:26:09.960 --> 00:26:23.640 Eric Sarver, Esq. - Employment Law Today: Technology can really be a lifesaver and all of it, you know i'm not by nature, a super tech savvy kind of guy I don't flock to new technology it's usually thrust upon me know, because then, once it is.
00:26:24.720 --> 00:26:27.330 Eric Sarver, Esq. - Employment Law Today: If I choose to embrace it like I look back and I think.
00:26:27.660 --> 00:26:36.450 Eric Sarver, Esq. - Employment Law Today: How do they function before a certain you know high efficient building software came out or before say the calendar, where people can just you know you pick a time to talk and.
00:26:36.720 --> 00:26:42.600 Eric Sarver, Esq. - Employment Law Today: and not have to be back and forth emails how about Tuesday 11 o'clock let me check my calendar how about you do today, you know so.
00:26:43.470 --> 00:26:48.630 Eric Sarver, Esq. - Employment Law Today: I tend to agree, I think that so i'm hearing you say that, in terms of challenges that employer States today.
00:26:49.020 --> 00:26:57.720 Eric Sarver, Esq. - Employment Law Today: And maybe some key topics to focus on would be time management and would be not micromanaging and then you mentioned intergenerational.
00:26:58.560 --> 00:27:08.340 Eric Sarver, Esq. - Employment Law Today: Communication and that's an interesting one, too, because I think that a lot of times when people have different communication styles a miss understand or they assign.
00:27:09.630 --> 00:27:16.950 Eric Sarver, Esq. - Employment Law Today: The wrong motive someone's behaviors like a lot of millennials to not talk on the phone much they are in jeopardy, they text align.
00:27:17.400 --> 00:27:22.110 Eric Sarver, Esq. - Employment Law Today: And I think that, for those of us like myself really grew up you know with telephone.
00:27:22.860 --> 00:27:29.220 Eric Sarver, Esq. - Employment Law Today: We regularly called people even early on in my career and so, but my point is a lot of I know I heard my clients.
00:27:29.520 --> 00:27:37.650 Eric Sarver, Esq. - Employment Law Today: Who are upset with the younger employee and they'll say they're disrespectful and when we push into that issue for other reasons, it might be coming up let's say legal issues.
00:27:38.040 --> 00:27:47.250 Eric Sarver, Esq. - Employment Law Today: they'll say well for them well they always they send the text instead of a phone call, and you know i'll say, if you want to communicate more modern the with like this is like not.
00:27:47.760 --> 00:27:56.250 Eric Sarver, Esq. - Employment Law Today: At least I can see being done as a front door it's not to be a slacker it's just like this is an efficient way that they brought up with since they were kids you know.
00:27:57.300 --> 00:28:08.400 Sandra Kearney - Human Power Solutions: yeah I agree with that, and you know I always tell my I always tell when i'm working with my with my groups, you know I say no one walks in and says i'm going to really ruin eric's day today.
00:28:08.580 --> 00:28:13.680 Sandra Kearney - Human Power Solutions: Right, no one goes in with that intention, so you know so they have to look at the intentionality is being.
00:28:14.010 --> 00:28:18.480 Sandra Kearney - Human Power Solutions: There their intentions are good so let's figure out how we can all communicate.
00:28:18.750 --> 00:28:28.890 Sandra Kearney - Human Power Solutions: And the other pieces on the onboarding process so as you're selling your companies are selling your culture of your company and your onboarding your employees, you have to ask them what's your preferred method of communication.
00:28:29.100 --> 00:28:30.570 Sandra Kearney - Human Power Solutions: Like how as your manager.
00:28:30.780 --> 00:28:36.840 Sandra Kearney - Human Power Solutions: How can I best you know serve you because that's what i'm doing i'm serving you i'm helping you grow in your career.
00:28:37.200 --> 00:28:50.700 Sandra Kearney - Human Power Solutions: In you're going to be doing the work what it what is best for you let's let's get that out in the outset and they I hate the phone, I want to text I don't like email, whatever it is right yeah call me anytime I love that.
00:28:51.120 --> 00:28:53.850 Sandra Kearney - Human Power Solutions: i'm just asking the questions.
00:28:54.390 --> 00:29:02.850 Eric Sarver, Esq. - Employment Law Today: Right and really you know there's an investment there it's a mutual benefit if that employee for our brother if that employer is setting up their employees.
00:29:03.180 --> 00:29:19.920 Eric Sarver, Esq. - Employment Law Today: For success and to do the work well and to stay with the company that whole employee retention issue that we're, seeing as you mentioned earlier the show that it to their great transition i've heard a call the great resignation, the reshuffling to create be part of ization.
00:29:20.970 --> 00:29:32.820 Eric Sarver, Esq. - Employment Law Today: Most of it, I think you know it takes expand spawned by recent events and independent, as you mentioned, you know sondra I think it's true that we can't get the genie back in the bottle people have seen the benefits of.
00:29:33.150 --> 00:29:43.800 Eric Sarver, Esq. - Employment Law Today: remote and hybrid workforces but no, I think, make a really good point about that makes maximum points about just investing in your workers asking asking questions as well yeah definitely.
00:29:44.280 --> 00:29:50.190 Sandra Kearney - Human Power Solutions: You know, even in the training space, you know we've had clients that we'd have to go on site for you have to be on site, you have to be on site.
00:29:50.580 --> 00:29:58.740 Sandra Kearney - Human Power Solutions: You don't have to be on site for time management, you can do very beautifully you know virtually for team building probably on site so we're working we're working with our clients.
00:29:58.740 --> 00:30:06.150 Sandra Kearney - Human Power Solutions: to let them know you know these are the topics that are good in person, these are the ones you can do remotely and save some time for people traveling.
00:30:06.720 --> 00:30:10.710 Eric Sarver, Esq. - Employment Law Today: Sure makes sense that I hear that balance is sort of a mix, because I know.
00:30:11.280 --> 00:30:16.440 Eric Sarver, Esq. - Employment Law Today: My own experience to that some client meetings have invest in person like an employer say being.
00:30:16.740 --> 00:30:23.250 Eric Sarver, Esq. - Employment Law Today: audited by the partner Labor and they need help us out in their compliance issues or someone you know company being sued for discrimination.
00:30:23.610 --> 00:30:34.050 Eric Sarver, Esq. - Employment Law Today: Best out some some important things based conversations, but a lot of things can be done through zoom addressing contract and I know in the in the business rather works in a very similar way.
00:30:34.590 --> 00:30:39.450 Eric Sarver, Esq. - Employment Law Today: And if you can weave it sounded we're at our next commercial break, but when we were halfway out of time, those.
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00:33:09.240 --> 00:33:18.870 Eric Sarver, Esq. - Employment Law Today: Welcome back to learn a lot today I am your host erick soccer and final attorney, so I do the show code and why Milan today every Tuesday at 5pm I talked to nyc.
00:33:19.200 --> 00:33:26.820 Eric Sarver, Esq. - Employment Law Today: And within my guest tonight, our guest founder kearney CEO and President of human power solutions and we're talking today folks if you joined us late.
00:33:27.360 --> 00:33:42.300 Eric Sarver, Esq. - Employment Law Today: about some comprehensive consulting comprehensive solutions to challenges that employers face in the workplace today in the modern workplace really great stuff so 500 great topic we know insight you're providing so we appreciate that and being here tonight show.
00:33:42.660 --> 00:33:43.140 Sandra Kearney - Human Power Solutions: Thank you.
00:33:43.470 --> 00:33:45.330 Eric Sarver, Esq. - Employment Law Today: Sure sure thing you know, I think.
00:33:46.440 --> 00:33:52.140 Eric Sarver, Esq. - Employment Law Today: we're talking about some of the challenges and the problems and some of the issues of time management and communication with.
00:33:52.890 --> 00:34:06.210 Eric Sarver, Esq. - Employment Law Today: Different intergenerational employees at both the question becomes a question of view is what type of training, specifically should leaders avail themselves, you know, to really invest in themselves and in their workers.
00:34:06.570 --> 00:34:09.300 Sandra Kearney - Human Power Solutions: So that's a loaded question because.
00:34:09.330 --> 00:34:11.130 Sandra Kearney - Human Power Solutions: Every culture is different so.
00:34:11.190 --> 00:34:23.910 Sandra Kearney - Human Power Solutions: You know kind of what what HP is has done is we've kind of taken our trainings and put them into different buckets so we have a leadership bucket we have a communication bucket a productivity bucket a sales bucket.
00:34:24.840 --> 00:34:37.800 Sandra Kearney - Human Power Solutions: workplace wellness HR so you know I think it's really matter of what bucket are you looking to you know to to work with and many companies will choose a little bit of everything from each one of the buckets.
00:34:38.670 --> 00:34:45.090 Sandra Kearney - Human Power Solutions: So you know really kind of taking a look and and what is it that your organization really does need and almost.
00:34:45.480 --> 00:34:54.870 Sandra Kearney - Human Power Solutions: almost everybody needs emerging leaders, so you have these high potentials these talented you know individuals that you want to invest in again we're looking at retention we're looking at.
00:34:55.170 --> 00:35:06.750 Sandra Kearney - Human Power Solutions: How are we going to attract talent how we're going to retain it well we're going to do that by saying we want to give you some leadership training, you know before you even get into that leadership position and that right there help to.
00:35:07.440 --> 00:35:19.620 Sandra Kearney - Human Power Solutions: train the next man up right so when there's something available they're ready to go instead of throwing somebody into a position here your manager now you're really good at your job, your manager oh I don't I don't know how to deal with people.
00:35:19.890 --> 00:35:22.530 Sandra Kearney - Human Power Solutions: right though that happens, quite a bit so we.
00:35:22.530 --> 00:35:26.100 Sandra Kearney - Human Power Solutions: really push that emerging leader, you know high potential training.
00:35:27.300 --> 00:35:36.690 Sandra Kearney - Human Power Solutions: I think every employer really needs to look at the workplace wellness we're hearing a lot about mental mental health awareness and things like that you know, two years ago I lost my partner.
00:35:37.230 --> 00:35:46.050 Sandra Kearney - Human Power Solutions: To you know mental health issues, due to Colvin and it was it was very traumatic and there were lots of signs along along the way.
00:35:46.710 --> 00:36:01.080 Sandra Kearney - Human Power Solutions: That you know people just kind of shoved aside and that's you know really difficult, so you know, I think, bringing bring it to light and giving your employees tools it's just really providing tools on how do I manage stress how do I manage my time.
00:36:01.800 --> 00:36:07.260 Sandra Kearney - Human Power Solutions: that's something that we we bring in a lot and the financial education for people as well right.
00:36:07.290 --> 00:36:07.530 Eric Sarver, Esq. - Employment Law Today: This.
00:36:07.830 --> 00:36:13.050 Sandra Kearney - Human Power Solutions: New Generation coming in, they loaded of student debt, you know they got a lots going on.
00:36:13.140 --> 00:36:20.610 Sandra Kearney - Human Power Solutions: rents are really high they can't buy a mortgage while they also financial literacy, you know, is not that's also something that we asked them to bring in.
00:36:21.300 --> 00:36:31.830 Sandra Kearney - Human Power Solutions: A for employee retention and be to reduce the stress and increase productivity, for their employees, so we really we take that holistic view for.
00:36:33.540 --> 00:36:43.020 Sandra Kearney - Human Power Solutions: You sitting down and really saying what is it that you really need but authentic leadership communication time management workplace wellness are some of the top ones that we that we do.
00:36:43.500 --> 00:36:49.680 Eric Sarver, Esq. - Employment Law Today: yeah sorry about the loss of you know 40 minutes couple years ago and let's really know clearly the mental health.
00:36:50.970 --> 00:36:54.840 Eric Sarver, Esq. - Employment Law Today: struggles challenges are very real and I think, then, and then we definitely made that.
00:36:56.280 --> 00:36:58.080 Eric Sarver, Esq. - Employment Law Today: A big issue and more self.
00:36:59.130 --> 00:37:11.280 Eric Sarver, Esq. - Employment Law Today: But I think you know you're right about those different buckets the training and how it comes back some key basics like I think most companies, if not all, can use the workplace wellness you know the leadership communication.
00:37:12.330 --> 00:37:20.310 Eric Sarver, Esq. - Employment Law Today: yeah the workplace wellness is so important, I think that, I think, for a long time companies had this maybe misguided notion right that.
00:37:20.400 --> 00:37:22.560 Eric Sarver, Esq. - Employment Law Today: Maybe this is what you investigations help people with.
00:37:22.920 --> 00:37:33.450 Eric Sarver, Esq. - Employment Law Today: The getting rid of that they can believe that like what you do and your mental health is separate from work that's your quote unquote private life right that's what you do with your therapist or your you know.
00:37:34.230 --> 00:37:42.150 Eric Sarver, Esq. - Employment Law Today: or mental health professionals and somehow when you come into the office that that those issues, issues, no longer exist or relevant that I think.
00:37:42.630 --> 00:37:48.360 Eric Sarver, Esq. - Employment Law Today: A lot of companies are realizing that you know talk about mental health issues and struggles in places and programs.
00:37:48.840 --> 00:38:02.910 Eric Sarver, Esq. - Employment Law Today: And those are you know dirty word that's not a bad it's actually a virtue and it's a great thing for companies to really I see enlightened companies very talking about these issues with each other and with their management and with the employees as well.
00:38:03.600 --> 00:38:07.920 Sandra Kearney - Human Power Solutions: yeah it's not just so when I own the gym that the jealous corporate gyms so we went out and we.
00:38:07.920 --> 00:38:08.130 Eric Sarver, Esq. - Employment Law Today: Did.
00:38:08.340 --> 00:38:09.420 Eric Sarver, Esq. - Employment Law Today: A wellness we went didn't.
00:38:09.450 --> 00:38:17.940 Sandra Kearney - Human Power Solutions: want site exercise yoga you know all that kind of stuff so it's not just that the head stuff it's just physically right getting people up and moving and and you know.
00:38:18.180 --> 00:38:29.040 Sandra Kearney - Human Power Solutions: is having some fun boot camps are things you know we used to drag equipment out to you know, one of our big clients and we set up at that, in their yard after work from five to six and 25 people would come out and just.
00:38:29.340 --> 00:38:39.390 Sandra Kearney - Human Power Solutions: Exercise together and just providing those kinds of opportunities against for camaraderie it's it's part of your culture, you know so mental health doesn't need to be this heavy mental health.
00:38:39.420 --> 00:38:40.650 Eric Sarver, Esq. - Employment Law Today: Right it doesn't need to be this.
00:38:41.160 --> 00:38:50.430 Sandra Kearney - Human Power Solutions: i'm depressed or anxious or things that could just be hey let's get people moving and let's get them excited and let's have a contest for walking or whatever it is.
00:38:51.480 --> 00:38:53.820 Sandra Kearney - Human Power Solutions: So I think there's a lot of different looks to it.
00:38:54.360 --> 00:38:55.950 Sandra Kearney - Human Power Solutions: When it comes to workplace wellness.
00:38:56.430 --> 00:39:09.810 Eric Sarver, Esq. - Employment Law Today: interesting point of view yeah no that's really always a very heavy intense or a drastic draconian move or foundation, but could just be you know some group exercise as a way to connect to physically move the body.
00:39:10.860 --> 00:39:19.500 Eric Sarver, Esq. - Employment Law Today: And then, of course, if people employees do you need to turn out there are employee employee assistance programs out there and that they can avail themselves of.
00:39:19.980 --> 00:39:31.680 Eric Sarver, Esq. - Employment Law Today: But you know good to have this trip sort of information, because they feel like last time we talked about the need for companies to you know to do certain things like improve time management and improve communication.
00:39:32.310 --> 00:39:45.330 Eric Sarver, Esq. - Employment Law Today: But there are training them how to do that, you know it's like telling a football team know the goal is to you know just score more touchdowns and block the team scoring but how like if that's where the x's and o's come in and the coaches, you know with the huddles and stuff you know.
00:39:46.170 --> 00:39:54.660 Sandra Kearney - Human Power Solutions: yeah and I think the other thing that companies really need to do is figure out if their processes are what they need to be so, a lot of continuous improvement and process improvement.
00:39:54.990 --> 00:40:06.150 Sandra Kearney - Human Power Solutions: You know a lot of people look at the lean and six Sigma initiatives is just being for manufacturing companies, you know you value stream mapping and all the kaizen events and all the things that happened in the back, which you know we do for the manufacturers.
00:40:06.360 --> 00:40:15.540 Sandra Kearney - Human Power Solutions: But we've also come back into our offices and said, what are your processes, for you know your paper flow, what are your processes for those kinds of things let's alleviate redundancy.
00:40:16.320 --> 00:40:22.620 Sandra Kearney - Human Power Solutions: You know what we're doing so, we bring in lean for office a lot of times too and companies like that's a game changer.
00:40:22.830 --> 00:40:24.840 Sandra Kearney - Human Power Solutions: Because again people feel more productive.
00:40:25.110 --> 00:40:34.680 Sandra Kearney - Human Power Solutions: They feel like they can move the needle and they're not doing things over and over and over again, and things aren't getting done so, I think, companies really need to take a look a hard look at their processes.
00:40:34.980 --> 00:40:46.980 Sandra Kearney - Human Power Solutions: and see where people are getting bogged down, and where they're getting frustrated right is that provides a lot of back talk and all the you know thought, a little gossipy stuff that goes on it's just because people are frustrated.
00:40:47.910 --> 00:40:48.990 Sandra Kearney - Human Power Solutions: If things aren't getting done.
00:40:49.590 --> 00:41:02.610 Eric Sarver, Esq. - Employment Law Today: yeah what are some of those leads we hear about lean management mean operations, a lot are there, a couple of I guess hallmarks with that or certain like aspects of lean that stand out to you.
00:41:03.210 --> 00:41:05.550 Sandra Kearney - Human Power Solutions: yeah I like I love the four day workweek so I wish.
00:41:07.980 --> 00:41:17.280 Sandra Kearney - Human Power Solutions: yeah it's it's effective meeting management it's it's being able to you know, have an agenda hold the time who needs to who really needs to be involved here Jeff Jeff to have the meeting right.
00:41:18.360 --> 00:41:19.230 Sandra Kearney - Human Power Solutions: Shared drive.
00:41:20.370 --> 00:41:30.090 Sandra Kearney - Human Power Solutions: Those kinds of things and just really we will or you take your sales process or you take your we're going to dentist office and we're looking at the the flow of insurance paperwork and all that.
00:41:30.630 --> 00:41:32.700 Sandra Kearney - Human Power Solutions: will take that will take everything and just kind of like.
00:41:33.000 --> 00:41:37.980 Sandra Kearney - Human Power Solutions: spread it out and say okay here's all the steps that we take, how can we maximize each one of those.
00:41:37.980 --> 00:41:39.330 Sandra Kearney - Human Power Solutions: Steps what is he.
00:41:39.480 --> 00:41:49.920 Sandra Kearney - Human Power Solutions: Doing who's touching it and so it's it's basically Taking all these little pieces and just breaking it all down and what can we eliminate what can we combine you know.
00:41:51.060 --> 00:41:58.410 Sandra Kearney - Human Power Solutions: What do you want to do, should you do, should you get rid of it's it's it's that as we're talking to business owners in order to talk.
00:41:58.920 --> 00:41:59.430 Sandra Kearney - Human Power Solutions: Yes.
00:42:00.390 --> 00:42:08.820 Eric Sarver, Esq. - Employment Law Today: it's like trimming the fat literally you know and redundancy right or the access with the unnecessary and sort of cutting to the chase of things like with.
00:42:09.540 --> 00:42:13.380 Eric Sarver, Esq. - Employment Law Today: With communication styles meeting today i've seen over the years.
00:42:14.070 --> 00:42:24.330 Eric Sarver, Esq. - Employment Law Today: Companies in have trading about you know how to write emails in the most efficient way and that's something right there and how to sort of cut to the chase in that regard.
00:42:25.050 --> 00:42:35.910 Eric Sarver, Esq. - Employment Law Today: I think that you know companies are going more and more towards that we model of management operations, we sit there in the know they really want to improve and change the times, you know yeah.
00:42:36.150 --> 00:42:49.890 Sandra Kearney - Human Power Solutions: And with those emails right so Eric i'm sure you've see certain people like certain things, so we can like this type of person and this type of person organization bullet points no fluff right so that's your organization, if you don't give them fluff they're going to get mad.
00:42:50.190 --> 00:42:51.780 Sandra Kearney - Human Power Solutions: So he was also.
00:42:51.810 --> 00:42:58.320 Sandra Kearney - Human Power Solutions: You know it's also helping to train your employees and again again it's asking the question how do you like, to be communicated to.
00:42:58.320 --> 00:42:58.830 Sandra Kearney - Human Power Solutions: Having that.
00:42:59.160 --> 00:42:59.970 conversation.
00:43:00.990 --> 00:43:11.910 Sandra Kearney - Human Power Solutions: You know, we want to talk about the patriots sorry New York, but you know i'm talking about the patriots, or you know the red SOx or the weather or someone just doesn't even care and they just want to know what's the meat of the email so.
00:43:12.960 --> 00:43:19.680 Eric Sarver, Esq. - Employment Law Today: yeah I guess that's true I guess you know all these topics were discussing from communication styles, you know to time management.
00:43:20.040 --> 00:43:29.580 Eric Sarver, Esq. - Employment Law Today: There are nuances and different people have different preferences, for example, you mentioned earlier about how some people some employees work better from home.
00:43:30.090 --> 00:43:38.580 Eric Sarver, Esq. - Employment Law Today: Without distraction without you know cubicle talk what not and yet other people right focus best when they're in sort of you know at.
00:43:39.060 --> 00:43:48.300 Eric Sarver, Esq. - Employment Law Today: The at the workplace think they get into the zone you'll have the entire thing to the Community to get them, making the flow and and then the separation from home and maybe there's a different.
00:43:48.690 --> 00:43:56.670 Eric Sarver, Esq. - Employment Law Today: surroundings, maybe their home is filled with like you know their refrigerator and their snack pantry and their TV and everything you're right depends on the person, you know.
00:43:57.660 --> 00:44:06.660 Eric Sarver, Esq. - Employment Law Today: And I think they can be thinking of maybe need to, as you said, he pointed out need to recognize that so there's not really I suppose a one size fits all approach is there.
00:44:06.870 --> 00:44:07.860 Sandra Kearney - Human Power Solutions: Now there is not.
00:44:07.890 --> 00:44:08.700 Eric Sarver, Esq. - Employment Law Today: Then that's what.
00:44:08.880 --> 00:44:14.190 Sandra Kearney - Human Power Solutions: A lot of that's what a lot of people think there isn't there just isn't you know with with.
00:44:14.850 --> 00:44:25.410 Sandra Kearney - Human Power Solutions: This company, you know she's she can she's doing for 10 hour days and she going she can go into sugar work from home, and you know she's like I like to go in a couple of days, because you know the cafeteria is good, I get to see people.
00:44:26.190 --> 00:44:38.100 Sandra Kearney - Human Power Solutions: Like if I want to do 10 hours at home, I can do that in my Community class so just having that flexibility, you know is is huge, it depends on the person my son loves going in.
00:44:39.090 --> 00:44:42.090 Sandra Kearney - Human Power Solutions: I think, five days he'll be he'll be in the office every day he loves it.
00:44:43.800 --> 00:44:54.780 Sandra Kearney - Human Power Solutions: he's on you know he's extrovert he feeds on the office you know, energy and things like that so it's just allowing people to be productive in the way that they want to be.
00:44:55.590 --> 00:44:55.980 Right.
00:44:57.000 --> 00:45:04.440 Eric Sarver, Esq. - Employment Law Today: allowing them, giving them that space to do so, I relate to your son style I tend to be an extrovert and for me that looks like it's a balance of.
00:45:05.520 --> 00:45:15.150 Eric Sarver, Esq. - Employment Law Today: two to three days my office and 50 days at home, and I will back to meeting people in person, when i'm going to the city, but there are times when I will just go in.
00:45:15.900 --> 00:45:22.590 Eric Sarver, Esq. - Employment Law Today: Because I want to be around people you know my wife's working you know, on her job in Jersey, we live in New Jersey and i'm home and it's.
00:45:22.950 --> 00:45:26.970 Eric Sarver, Esq. - Employment Law Today: it's sort of crickets that I need you know dad like people to want to say hello to.
00:45:27.690 --> 00:45:34.320 Eric Sarver, Esq. - Employment Law Today: Just two people you know receptionist my office and so forth, and clients and people that share our other offices down there you know, in the row.
00:45:34.710 --> 00:45:41.730 Eric Sarver, Esq. - Employment Law Today: But no, I think you make a good point there sandy that you know, a company in terms of training for leadership and training for like communication.
00:45:42.570 --> 00:46:02.760 Eric Sarver, Esq. - Employment Law Today: has to be an adult communication to learn what your specific employees want and need and to have, to some extent tailored approach to say so, like okay your son, you know can go in every day if he wants to Maybe someone else will find that like to be like a hard fate did they.
00:46:03.090 --> 00:46:07.230 Eric Sarver, Esq. - Employment Law Today: Use work from home for two years and they want to work from home three days, two days a week, and so they can do that.
00:46:08.070 --> 00:46:15.210 Eric Sarver, Esq. - Employment Law Today: hmm we're actually on a commercial break and you believe it when we come back i'm going to ask us and it tells more about.
00:46:15.600 --> 00:46:19.410 Eric Sarver, Esq. - Employment Law Today: her and her company's unique philosophy methods and approaches.
00:46:19.860 --> 00:46:26.760 Eric Sarver, Esq. - Employment Law Today: are lots of far but more than that, how they distinguish themselves in terms of employee relations and an HR communications so.
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00:48:39.330 --> 00:48:45.030 Eric Sarver, Esq. - Employment Law Today: Welcome back folks welcome back to employment law today i'm here tonight i'll talk to you in yc with.
00:48:45.450 --> 00:48:51.600 Eric Sarver, Esq. - Employment Law Today: My guest assigned to kearney and human power solutions and for those of us who've been listening and maybe joined late.
00:48:51.930 --> 00:49:03.450 Eric Sarver, Esq. - Employment Law Today: sondra i've been talking about some of the comments that approach, comprehensive consulting that employers and companies, he we talked about communication styles of leadership training time management.
00:49:04.320 --> 00:49:10.680 Eric Sarver, Esq. - Employment Law Today: Some of the micro level of macro level challenges employers face in the workplace, and also the types of trainings that.
00:49:11.040 --> 00:49:26.040 Eric Sarver, Esq. - Employment Law Today: leaders can avail themselves of and then of course throughout the shows on just been sharing bits and pieces about what her approach to the human Paris solutions, so I guess my last question is founder, I wanted to ask you like in more detail if you can share with our viewers.
00:49:27.060 --> 00:49:39.420 Eric Sarver, Esq. - Employment Law Today: What is your unique philosophy, maybe your trademark unique methods and approaches that human power solutions takes to distinguish yourself from other employee relations or marketing or HR consulting firms out there.
00:49:40.080 --> 00:49:44.730 Sandra Kearney - Human Power Solutions: So I think the biggest thing that differentiates ourselves as the fact that we listen to our clients.
00:49:44.940 --> 00:49:53.520 Sandra Kearney - Human Power Solutions: And and and we listen to our clients and get into the training that we listen to the participants so sometimes they employers and the leaders.
00:49:53.880 --> 00:50:01.950 Sandra Kearney - Human Power Solutions: think that they need something, but they actually need something else, and we are not afraid to say, this is not what you need this is the direction that we're going to go into.
00:50:02.790 --> 00:50:12.090 Sandra Kearney - Human Power Solutions: So I think that's really important we do our trainings broken up into small buckets so we don't do eight our trainings or for our trainings will do trainings.
00:50:12.420 --> 00:50:24.870 Sandra Kearney - Human Power Solutions: You know we'll figure out what we need, will do once a week for 90 minutes if it's virtual three hours if it's live, you know once bi weekly or bi monthly just so people can grab little nuggets of truth of things that they can try.
00:50:25.050 --> 00:50:33.870 Sandra Kearney - Human Power Solutions: And they come back and say Oh, that really worked really well, and then we talked about that, and then we give them some more so we really believe in transformational training versus.
00:50:34.170 --> 00:50:38.280 Sandra Kearney - Human Power Solutions: The eight hour training where everyone's asleep by 11 and they're not paying attention.
00:50:39.210 --> 00:50:45.660 Sandra Kearney - Human Power Solutions: That also allows the participants to block off that time and to know that they're going to have the rest of the day.
00:50:46.170 --> 00:50:58.830 Sandra Kearney - Human Power Solutions: So they're not going to lose the entire day, so we think that's that's really important The other thing that we do I think that's very different is just in our customized approach we have a generic curriculum of 150 courses.
00:50:59.850 --> 00:51:14.970 Sandra Kearney - Human Power Solutions: And so, real generic and then we just take it, and we will talk about a topic and we facilitate discussion so it's not like a death by PowerPoint or here's our system, and this is how you have to do it right it's really about what's going to work for you it's gonna work for your company.
00:51:16.050 --> 00:51:18.810 Sandra Kearney - Human Power Solutions: Give me a quick story because stories kind of tell it all.
00:51:19.170 --> 00:51:20.430 Eric Sarver, Esq. - Employment Law Today: Those stories are great.
00:51:20.640 --> 00:51:25.080 Sandra Kearney - Human Power Solutions: I was doing I was doing a training on HR on on on interviewing.
00:51:26.400 --> 00:51:34.110 Sandra Kearney - Human Power Solutions: Which and and we we approach this not from an HR perspective, but from the manager perspective, how do you how do you have an effective interview.
00:51:34.710 --> 00:51:43.920 Sandra Kearney - Human Power Solutions: And I was working with a with a client who more in the manufacturing space, and so you know, not a lot of formal training and things like that.
00:51:44.310 --> 00:51:50.100 Sandra Kearney - Human Power Solutions: As far as you know how to interview and how to do all that, so you know the entire two and a half hours were together.
00:51:51.030 --> 00:52:03.720 Sandra Kearney - Human Power Solutions: I was like well come up with these questions, think about this and put them in small groups and they you know halfway through I did a check and like how you guys doing, and they were like our last training we didn't really have to think this much.
00:52:03.750 --> 00:52:09.000 Sandra Kearney - Human Power Solutions: And I go, you know what guys i'm here for four weeks, this is your job.
00:52:09.120 --> 00:52:19.710 Sandra Kearney - Human Power Solutions: So if you can't think for yourself and problem some figure out what how to hire these people questions to ask then i'm done my job, so I think that's that's the differentiator for us.
00:52:20.370 --> 00:52:28.710 Eric Sarver, Esq. - Employment Law Today: You know it's so funny I was actually going to ask you if you can share like saying, an example and then you actually did I love I think anecdotal story that sort of.
00:52:29.040 --> 00:52:35.130 Eric Sarver, Esq. - Employment Law Today: You know, will describe what's happening yeah good point you know it's funny how they didn't expect that to actually have to do some.
00:52:35.490 --> 00:52:43.740 Eric Sarver, Esq. - Employment Law Today: Maybe he'll have your listings work that training and yet know you're there to teach press and how to fish right, not just fish for them and give them, you know.
00:52:44.730 --> 00:52:54.690 Eric Sarver, Esq. - Employment Law Today: I hear that I do I think that you know the way you described no sound to the human error solutions like listening to your clients and and the smaller nugget trainings.
00:52:55.140 --> 00:53:06.600 Eric Sarver, Esq. - Employment Law Today: that's something that I do with my clients terms of compliance i'd rather have them compliant in sort of smaller and Mike meetings, because I learned years ago that the four hour meeting, well, I find it fascinating.
00:53:06.690 --> 00:53:08.310 Eric Sarver, Esq. - Employment Law Today: I love them I love, I could.
00:53:08.550 --> 00:53:11.250 Eric Sarver, Esq. - Employment Law Today: You know, go like nuts and stuff I enjoy it passionate about it.
00:53:12.000 --> 00:53:18.600 Eric Sarver, Esq. - Employment Law Today: Not everybody is and so some of my clients in engineering like engineering firm love engineering with the heat.
00:53:18.960 --> 00:53:31.080 Eric Sarver, Esq. - Employment Law Today: All the languages, you know so so giving them smaller sort of consultation meetings and 3045 minutes, an hour can be helpful, so I appreciate that you had a similar approach with your clients and then of.
00:53:31.080 --> 00:53:39.090 Eric Sarver, Esq. - Employment Law Today: course facilitate discussions you know getting people into into that sort of the thick of it really you know getting interesting and.
00:53:39.840 --> 00:53:55.800 Sandra Kearney - Human Power Solutions: yeah I think it's really important to we're very we're workshop style everything's just workshop style so and so people often you know yeah and there's sometimes some topics i'm like you know you tell me, you tell me what how it works here, you know you tell me, you know what you do.
00:53:56.040 --> 00:53:59.310 Sandra Kearney - Human Power Solutions: And let's talk that how you how you're communicating.
00:53:59.550 --> 00:54:01.020 Sandra Kearney - Human Power Solutions: And having those kinds of open.
00:54:01.140 --> 00:54:13.920 Sandra Kearney - Human Power Solutions: sessions and then making sure that they're in small groups, whether it's video whether, if we're on zoom and breakout rooms, or whether they're alive or in groups or just mixing up the groups to get people to get different perspectives from their peers.
00:54:14.190 --> 00:54:16.260 Sandra Kearney - Human Power Solutions: And it creates these relationships and the.
00:54:16.500 --> 00:54:25.560 Sandra Kearney - Human Power Solutions: Safety of as being able to ask questions, maybe to somebody else, rather than just their manager so provides those that relationship.
00:54:25.950 --> 00:54:34.620 Sandra Kearney - Human Power Solutions: I can tell you the time i've been that we've trained on zoom with companies that no one even met each other, and then we just pop them into different breakout rooms and give them a topic to talk about.
00:54:35.010 --> 00:54:38.430 Sandra Kearney - Human Power Solutions: And, and they feel like they know each other it's.
00:54:38.460 --> 00:54:40.350 Sandra Kearney - Human Power Solutions: Pretty it's powerful.
00:54:41.490 --> 00:54:46.380 Eric Sarver, Esq. - Employment Law Today: Especially with you know companies more and more than maybe hiring remotely and so maybe their employees.
00:54:46.770 --> 00:54:53.670 Eric Sarver, Esq. - Employment Law Today: don't get that opportunity a chance to really bond and connect the same way that you know you and I, that they did when I worked at law firms.
00:54:54.120 --> 00:55:08.520 Eric Sarver, Esq. - Employment Law Today: Out of law school and maybe maybe you worked in you know the companies, you mentioned at chili's married I think that's really great you know points raised terms of like how human error solutions can distinguish yourself companies, because I think a lot of people are in this space.
00:55:09.690 --> 00:55:19.410 Eric Sarver, Esq. - Employment Law Today: consultative leadership, training and and your whole new skill set but don't have that so smaller trainings and interactive approaches is really good to know.
00:55:19.770 --> 00:55:27.600 Sandra Kearney - Human Power Solutions: yeah I think the other piece, for your audience, the New York audience anyway in Massachusetts it answers, there is grant money available in both states do provide training.
00:55:28.530 --> 00:55:30.600 Sandra Kearney - Human Power Solutions: Something that we also do this, one of our innovative.
00:55:31.920 --> 00:55:37.950 Sandra Kearney - Human Power Solutions: approaches, so we helped write those grants for our for our clients so help them access the money.
00:55:38.970 --> 00:55:48.240 Eric Sarver, Esq. - Employment Law Today: That is a really good point, you know as well, good to remind people that they have that opportunity, you know we are coming towards the end of our show we've got about a couple minutes left, I want to.
00:55:48.630 --> 00:55:58.170 Eric Sarver, Esq. - Employment Law Today: turn the floor over to you let people know how can they contact you what's your info any upcoming event, you have a comment for Georgian anything.
00:55:58.530 --> 00:56:09.510 Sandra Kearney - Human Power Solutions: Thanks so not not many events coming up we're doing a lot of training, but they can reach us at you can check out a list of our websites and our buckets at w w wh power solutions COM.
00:56:09.870 --> 00:56:20.610 Sandra Kearney - Human Power Solutions: i'm all over linkedin so I love people to follow me on linkedin and just connect with him, you know all that I love that so it's linkedin backslash Sander kearney just my name and.
00:56:21.180 --> 00:56:26.400 Sandra Kearney - Human Power Solutions: You have to check out the website, you know connect with me and love to i'd love to do one on ones, I never say no.
00:56:27.750 --> 00:56:29.310 Sandra Kearney - Human Power Solutions: I always find it interesting to meet people.
00:56:30.030 --> 00:56:35.070 Eric Sarver, Esq. - Employment Law Today: And for those listening or watching right we've done that such security is.
00:56:37.410 --> 00:56:47.490 Eric Sarver, Esq. - Employment Law Today: Is K, as in tight he as an Edward is an apple or as an Ralph N, as in Nancy yuck if people go to like sign the kearney and don't see it like.
00:56:47.940 --> 00:56:54.990 Eric Sarver, Esq. - Employment Law Today: You know, great to know that your website your contact information, you know I think we're good to have that that backdrop and.
00:56:55.530 --> 00:57:01.590 Eric Sarver, Esq. - Employment Law Today: yeah I think you know, in terms of like events coming out of the website, you can folks to check out sondra to company.
00:57:02.430 --> 00:57:12.240 Eric Sarver, Esq. - Employment Law Today: So we're coming to a close i'll just want to thank you sincerely founder Thank you so much for being a guest on our show tonight and we try to tackle.
00:57:12.930 --> 00:57:19.680 Eric Sarver, Esq. - Employment Law Today: The issues that employers and business owners that we're facing and, if you like, the show like what you heard out there, the audience is even.
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00:57:49.110 --> 00:57:53.730 Eric Sarver, Esq. - Employment Law Today: Today, we have to reprogram that the head and overall good programs on the station.
00:57:54.540 --> 00:58:06.450 Eric Sarver, Esq. - Employment Law Today: Again, my guest tonight was sondra karate of humor solutions and just want to thank you again for being here, I think you gave our audience, a lot of information to really think about and you know with that.
00:58:07.230 --> 00:58:12.570 Eric Sarver, Esq. - Employment Law Today: visual good night and i'll follow up with you in person, which definitely communicate with one on one and just keep in touch so.
00:58:12.630 --> 00:58:15.060 Sandra Kearney - Human Power Solutions: Absolutely Thank you so much for having me I really appreciate it.
00:58:15.780 --> 00:58:26.220 Eric Sarver, Esq. - Employment Law Today: you're very welcome with pleasure, having on the show Thank you again sondra all right, and everyone out there in the audience wish you a very pleasant evening and a great week and sondra once again thank you, when you will.
00:58:26.340 --> 00:58:27.900 Sandra Kearney - Human Power Solutions: Thank Thank you okay.
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