[NEW EPISODE] Born and Raised on Bonnies Baseball with Stu Bodner and Scott Nathanson

Stu Bodner is a former Bonnie pitcher in 1970’s, and he still umpires today. He worked 40 some odd years in NYC Public Library, and is known to be a thoughtful and articulate friend. His son Jared is on the spectrum, and continues to live at home with him.

Scott Nathanson managed his first baseball team, the Bonnie Bees, When he was 20 years old and became an educator in New York City at the age of 22. In 1980, after being bumped out of my teaching position twice due to budget cuts, Scott accepted a teaching position in Yonkers New York, that led me to teach at the Elementary, Junior High School, Middle School and High School levels over a span of 30 years.

Throughout his baseball coaching and managing career, Scott has taught the game at the high school, collegiate, Developmental league (to become professional players) and Professional Independent Minor League levels. He and wife Susan have been married for 46 years and have two adult children, Erica and Adam. They also have two grandchildren, Erica‘s daughter, Audrey and Adams son, Parker!

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Show Notes

Segment 1

The show starts with a brief overview of the show’s topics. Next, Stu Bodner and Scott Nathanson are introduced. He has been around the game of baseball his entire life. His journey started with the Bonnie Bees when he became a manager at age 20. At just 22 years old, he became an educator in New York City. Later, he became a minor league baseball manager. Ultimately, he has been teaching the game at the elementary, middle and high school levels for the last 30 years. Stu Bodner is a former 70’s Bonnie pitcher who is now umpiring. Also, he has been working at the New York Public Library for over 40 years.

Segment 2

The next segment is about the mental health of athletes. Sometimes a player may not perform well and become disappointed. Other times one might come to practice with big personality changes. Scott knows what to look for to identify warning signs of depression. Some signs are isolation, body language and enthusiasm. It is important to be aware of someone's potentially damaged state of mind and then take action attempting to lift them up. As a coach, Scott would make sure to work with his players and give them a talk if they had a bad day and were upset about it to prevent further issues. Next, Stu touches on what it is like to umpire a game. Over time he has learned better which angles he needs to be at in order to make accurate calls. Previously, he has gotten plenty of negative feedback from parents and fans. 

Segment 3

For many people, baseball players were not able to play because of the pandemic. Others were able to play but they had to wear masks during the game which hindered breathing and communication. It was a challenge for everyone. Luckily, now the majority of youth baseball programs have resumed. During a game, Stewart has had to eject a few players and coaches but does not like ejecting coaches because without them there is not much adult supervision. For Stu, while he is umpiring it feels like it is him against the world.

Segment 4

‍Scott recently re-watched Albert’s movie titled Extra Innings. People are more likely to catch more details about movies when watching for the second time. For Scott, he noticed much more detail about the character’s emotions and motives. The movie’s plot is based on his personal life. Scott loved how he was able to learn more facts about his good friend through his film. All three of them were able to form such a strong bond through baseball. Albert used baseball as a crutch to help him get through tough times. 

Transcript

00:00:27.330 --> 00:00:35.700 Albert Dabah: hi there, how are you tonight, my name is Albert dabba I am the host of extra innings covering all the bases.

00:00:36.480 --> 00:01:01.170 Albert Dabah: On extra innings we talk about many different kinds of subjects, including mental health and how mental illness and the stigma of mental illness basically has really taken away from the lives of many people their lives in terms of living a life, where they can feel good about themselves.

00:01:02.250 --> 00:01:14.100 Albert Dabah: illnesses such as disorders, like depression, anxiety disorder bipolar disorder depression and suicide, these are universal issues that.

00:01:15.090 --> 00:01:34.530 Albert Dabah: Everyone needs to deal with when the need arises and it's something that we find very important to discuss and because of the stigma that goes on, most people do not like to discuss it on this show we've had many different kinds of people from all different kinds of professions.

00:01:35.790 --> 00:01:50.610 Albert Dabah: I find that, because of the universality of the mental illness in our world is the subject that I believe the CDC is one out of five people is affected, with some kind of mental illness.

00:01:51.990 --> 00:02:02.040 Albert Dabah: The name extra innings came from a movie that I wrote produced and directed called extra innings which is now on Amazon prime and it's based on a true story.

00:02:02.520 --> 00:02:15.780 Albert Dabah: of my life growing up in brooklyn during the 1960s talking about brooklyn tonight I have on our show two guys from brooklyn Stewart barner and Scott nathanson.

00:02:16.470 --> 00:02:29.070 Albert Dabah: I have played ball with Scott Nathan, and with Sue Bonner, I met him recently through different friends of mine and so i'll start off with scotty scotty tell us about.

00:02:30.450 --> 00:02:39.690 Albert Dabah: How we got to know each other the hat you're wearing what does it represent, because I know it represents something very important to both of us.

00:02:40.020 --> 00:02:41.100 Scott Nathanson: right for sure.

00:02:42.480 --> 00:02:43.650 Scott Nathanson: i'll start with.

00:02:44.700 --> 00:03:00.600 Scott Nathanson: The hat that i'm wearing is for the bunny youth organization in brooklyn New York started in the flat per section of brooklyn in the 1940s and they've never had a paid.

00:03:02.100 --> 00:03:15.360 Scott Nathanson: coach or athletic director they've never had a paid member of their organization strictly by volunteer and the owner was Mr bonnie and he.

00:03:15.840 --> 00:03:27.090 Scott Nathanson: ran a moving business bonnie movers and several of his friends were people involved with the brooklyn dodgers and he wanted to give back to the Community.

00:03:27.480 --> 00:03:41.820 Scott Nathanson: To give the young players, a place that young people a place to play and grow up in a healthy and safe environment I joined the bonnie's in 1966 and.

00:03:42.900 --> 00:03:48.510 Scott Nathanson: If i'm not mistaken, Albert we played together in 1968 I believe that was.

00:03:48.510 --> 00:03:49.140 Albert Dabah: yeah the.

00:03:49.620 --> 00:03:51.330 Scott Nathanson: Last year, and.

00:03:52.350 --> 00:04:01.020 Scott Nathanson: It was a great experience I played from 1966 through 1970 and 1971.

00:04:02.190 --> 00:04:07.650 Scott Nathanson: Jerry cat ski who was my coach my first year.

00:04:09.450 --> 00:04:22.140 Scott Nathanson: I asked him if I could manage a team, because I knew I was going to become a teacher and a baseball coach and I wanted to get some experience and we talked about it for a while and Jerry said yep.

00:04:23.610 --> 00:04:40.470 Scott Nathanson: jokingly said I got to make sure that you know you'll handle yourself you're a young person I was only 20 years old, at the time and I guarantee Jerry that I would handle myself well and I promised him that I would never get thrown out of the game.

00:04:41.910 --> 00:04:42.480 Albert Dabah: wow.

00:04:42.570 --> 00:04:45.660 Scott Nathanson: That I would be under control and and.

00:04:46.680 --> 00:04:49.110 Scott Nathanson: And I did not ever promise.

00:04:49.470 --> 00:04:54.810 Scott Nathanson: I promised and I never got thrown out of the game coaching coaching for the bindings.

00:04:56.370 --> 00:04:57.570 Scott Nathanson: later on.

00:04:58.590 --> 00:05:10.080 Scott Nathanson: i've gone through coaching the high school level at the high school in the bronx the College collegiate level at fordham university with Paul Blair.

00:05:11.220 --> 00:05:20.640 Scott Nathanson: I coached at westchester Community college for four years, and now i've coached developmental ball, which is developmentally.

00:05:22.980 --> 00:05:25.500 Scott Nathanson: developmentally developmental.

00:05:27.240 --> 00:05:27.930 Albert Dabah: skip the word.

00:05:27.960 --> 00:05:31.950 Scott Nathanson: i'm developing players for pro ball and.

00:05:32.970 --> 00:05:46.230 Scott Nathanson: I did that, for a while and then I became a independent minor league coach and the independent minor league manager and what that means is the teams are not affiliated major league baseball.

00:05:47.160 --> 00:06:06.990 Scott Nathanson: But i've run the gamut and it all started with the bonnie's back in brooklyn i've been fortunate enough to travel to yuma Arizona, to be able to coach to Kentucky to coach upstate New York old orchard beach main in concord new Hampshire so.

00:06:08.040 --> 00:06:24.780 Scott Nathanson: i've been out and about and it all all started with the bindings, which is where we met and in 1968 we played, we also played in the infield together and you played allow field and I occasionally got out there too.

00:06:27.210 --> 00:06:29.520 Scott Nathanson: And that was I guess at that time, considered.

00:06:30.540 --> 00:06:35.070 Scott Nathanson: Either sophomore or junior ball, depending on what League, it was it may have had a different name.

00:06:35.760 --> 00:06:48.840 Albert Dabah: yeah well before I get to use to it, I want to say one thing we had Jerry cassie on the show weeks, months ago actually he's an amazing guy.

00:06:51.330 --> 00:06:58.800 Albert Dabah: And also Simba productions, which is the production company that did an extra innings which is my production company.

00:06:59.730 --> 00:07:08.400 Albert Dabah: did a documentary on the bonnie's and a short little story about that was, I called Jerry a couple years before I shot the film and said.

00:07:08.670 --> 00:07:14.070 Albert Dabah: hey Jerry i'm thinking about I have this script that I wrote i'm thinking about you know, making this film in brooklyn.

00:07:14.430 --> 00:07:19.710 Albert Dabah: And I was wondering if I can get somebody players to be extras in the film, but who really will play.

00:07:20.280 --> 00:07:30.210 Albert Dabah: And he said yeah that'd be fine and I said how send you the script you read the script he said oh that's great and then the next day or a couple days later he calls me and says, well, can you do a documentary on the bodies.

00:07:31.140 --> 00:07:40.260 Albert Dabah: I said yeah, but do you have any money for that he goes now I figured he said no, so I said all right well give me your your your list of.

00:07:41.310 --> 00:07:44.730 Albert Dabah: The apparent list that you have and we'll do a.

00:07:46.350 --> 00:08:01.470 Albert Dabah: crowdfunding and we were able to raise about $5,000 and over a year's period because he wanted to show the whole life of the bodies like with the parades the not just the Games, but also.

00:08:02.130 --> 00:08:14.430 Albert Dabah: With the beginning of the season, the events that went on to show that it was a real all year program and I was very proud to do that and I didn't go on all the shoots.

00:08:15.030 --> 00:08:22.290 Albert Dabah: But we were able to do it and, and I said, you know it has helped him raise money when you know they always are looking for money.

00:08:23.010 --> 00:08:38.430 Albert Dabah: So, so it so tell us a little now Stewart has an interesting background as well that's why he's on the show, and you may ask, as you're listening to the show what is baseball have to do with mental health so that's one of the things I want to get into tonight as well because.

00:08:39.540 --> 00:08:49.560 Albert Dabah: I think, to play baseball or to play any sport and to do just about anything well in life, you have to have your wits together and at times you just don't.

00:08:50.040 --> 00:08:57.300 Albert Dabah: You have and meaning of words together is like you might go to a game and be depressed before was something that happened in your family.

00:08:57.750 --> 00:09:11.190 Albert Dabah: But how do you get through a game like that and i'm sure we'll can talk about that and i'm sure you've or you're coaching a kid scotty and he's strikes out three times and he's walking away so dejected at the end of the game.

00:09:12.240 --> 00:09:20.070 Albert Dabah: One of the questions I asked Jerry was how many kids who play sign up to play bonnie baseball want to be major leaguers nobody said.

00:09:20.730 --> 00:09:21.330 Scott Nathanson: All of them.

00:09:21.630 --> 00:09:32.520 Albert Dabah: Exactly exactly so what happens when they find out that you know how many points you know the tiny percent make it to the major leagues right and.

00:09:33.450 --> 00:09:46.830 Albert Dabah: And I he said his answer was a great answer I thought we always try to build confidence in the players, which I think is that is the wonderful thing about sports and and about any coach Stuart.

00:09:47.940 --> 00:09:54.420 Albert Dabah: I know you've done a lot of different things in your life, you talked about umpire we had a whole talk about umpiring.

00:09:54.780 --> 00:09:55.320 Stewart Bodner: mm hmm.

00:09:55.710 --> 00:10:09.840 Albert Dabah: but also one of the things that really struck me as you became the director of the 42nd street library because i've always looked at that library is like wow that is one and i've been in that library and said read is one big library so.

00:10:10.860 --> 00:10:16.020 Albert Dabah: Start wherever you want to start from and tell us about yourself, and you are from brooklyn as well, so.

00:10:16.170 --> 00:10:21.540 Stewart Bodner: i'm from brooklyn on the library just quite a place as you could imagine.

00:10:22.560 --> 00:10:30.360 Stewart Bodner: I never made a ton of money there, but I felt like a rich person, because the collection and services were fantastic and.

00:10:30.870 --> 00:10:45.000 Stewart Bodner: One thing that comes to mind, which made me sort of really love the library was I don't know if you remember in the 70s, we used to have all of these people from West Africa, who was selling trinkets on the street.

00:10:46.200 --> 00:11:00.600 Stewart Bodner: They were on they would sell when it rained they would always say beautifully umbrella silly so you an umbrella well, they would show up at the library and asked for their equivalent of Time Magazine co jonah free.

00:11:02.160 --> 00:11:09.150 Stewart Bodner: And we would give them whatever they wanted without any affiliation, they didn't need to register.

00:11:09.630 --> 00:11:17.220 Stewart Bodner: We didn't need to know anything about their home address they just filled out a slip usually with the address mcalpin hotel, which was down by.

00:11:17.760 --> 00:11:36.540 Stewart Bodner: near macy's and we would turn the material over and that concept of sort of democratizing the flow of information was very appealing to me, so I would say that I spent a good 42 years there in every job imaginable up the ladder.

00:11:36.810 --> 00:11:38.310 Albert Dabah: Did you say 42 years.

00:11:38.340 --> 00:11:39.330 Stewart Bodner: 42 years.

00:11:39.390 --> 00:11:54.750 Stewart Bodner: wow and like I said every job up the ladder and one of the things that it afforded me to do on level was to be able to play baseball from 1969 to 1985.

00:11:56.100 --> 00:12:12.510 Stewart Bodner: So I had the opportunity, I had a fairly flexible schedule, at some point, and I could you know play the game, and that was very important me someone's combination very strange to be a librarian in a baseball player, I mean some people.

00:12:13.350 --> 00:12:21.360 Albert Dabah: yeah I could see that well but i'd like to when we were going to have a break in a minute, but i'd like to get back and and talk about.

00:12:23.310 --> 00:12:31.890 Albert Dabah: baseball in terms of how how you saw it, how you see it now or see it from back then, how it affected your life.

00:12:33.450 --> 00:12:50.070 Albert Dabah: I know, for me, I know how it affected my life and i'd love to share that as well and scotty you've been you know involved in baseball it sounds like forever and Sue you you've done so much you played baseball correct.

00:12:50.490 --> 00:12:52.020 Stewart Bodner: wait for 16 years.

00:12:52.080 --> 00:13:12.180 Albert Dabah: And and you've umpired, which is a whole different kind of different side of the ball game in itself, which we talked about and we'll talk about that as well, so anyway we'll be back in a minute i'm talking with Scott nascent sin and Stewart Bonner and talking about how.

00:13:13.770 --> 00:13:21.750 Albert Dabah: Really, how baseball can give you a in any sport, but we're talking baseball tonight, how it can give you that grounding.

00:13:22.380 --> 00:13:37.530 Albert Dabah: And or and how we can flip you over as well, and what you can do and what you've seen in your lifetimes in baseball that kind of bring out the kinds of things that we're talking about so we'll be right back Thank you guys see in a minute.

00:13:38.550 --> 00:13:39.120 Albert Dabah: we're listening.

00:16:05.670 --> 00:16:20.700 Albert Dabah: hi we're back with scotty nathanson and seward bodner so we left off talking about a kind of the mental health of a baseball player so scotty i'm going to address this question to you, so how do you deal with.

00:16:22.500 --> 00:16:34.290 Albert Dabah: When you see someone who's your coaching on your team and let's say he's not having the best game of his life he's maybe having the worst game of his life.

00:16:34.830 --> 00:16:40.230 Albert Dabah: And maybe he walks in or at you know, and you can see something's a little wrong.

00:16:40.980 --> 00:16:51.180 Albert Dabah: You know, he might be looking you know down he's not the same like he normally is he's been practice he's kind of half heartedly throwing the ball, whatever it may be.

00:16:51.900 --> 00:17:00.510 Albert Dabah: How do you pick up on that and what do you do and then let's say or during the game, he just doesn't do well, and he walks away doesn't say goodbye to anybody.

00:17:01.740 --> 00:17:03.210 Albert Dabah: How do you approach something like that.

00:17:03.660 --> 00:17:15.900 Scott Nathanson: Well, one of the things is that I also was a physical education teacher so i've been working with teaching skills from the grade kindergarten all the way through college.

00:17:17.220 --> 00:17:34.020 Scott Nathanson: I taught through high school and I coach to college baseball team, but during that training you learn to be very in tune, you know to what you see and how people react to you and the environment.

00:17:35.100 --> 00:17:44.910 Scott Nathanson: So one of the things that I always look for number one is that body language you can tell when somebody is not there themselves.

00:17:46.110 --> 00:17:49.890 Scott Nathanson: So that that's one thing that you deserve second thing is.

00:17:51.000 --> 00:17:56.820 Scott Nathanson: If you ever see players sitting by themselves, you know when they're off the field and they're.

00:17:57.900 --> 00:17:59.520 Scott Nathanson: At you know eating.

00:18:00.720 --> 00:18:08.460 Scott Nathanson: or they're having breakfast with you know, in a big dining room with the team and somebody sitting by themselves.

00:18:09.690 --> 00:18:23.910 Scott Nathanson: that's something that I always teach my players and even my students in school, if you ever see somebody sitting by themselves that meal you go over you tap on the shoulder you say Would you mind if I join you.

00:18:25.110 --> 00:18:35.430 Scott Nathanson: And they may say yes hey that's great come sit down, if not, they may say, oh no, I want to make a phone call or I meet some private time or.

00:18:36.570 --> 00:18:42.300 Scott Nathanson: I want to get my game face on, I want to get in the right mentality to you know to be out there on the field.

00:18:43.800 --> 00:18:51.360 Scott Nathanson: But if you see the same people being loners not sitting with the rest of the group not going out to dinner with the guys.

00:18:52.500 --> 00:19:06.690 Scott Nathanson: If they're struggling in a game you, the first thing is, you have to be aware and know know what to look for and that body language and isolation or two of the major things you know that you see.

00:19:08.040 --> 00:19:11.970 Scott Nathanson: Now, how do you deal with it that's an important issue.

00:19:13.410 --> 00:19:17.130 Scott Nathanson: Even when my son was in literally.

00:19:18.300 --> 00:19:27.000 Scott Nathanson: I was not the head coach because I was a professional guy and I did not want to run the team, I wanted to be a father.

00:19:27.630 --> 00:19:37.890 Scott Nathanson: I wanted to be a parent that the Games, but I helped coach they asked me to help and I I would work with other people's kids they would work with my my son and.

00:19:38.820 --> 00:19:51.510 Scott Nathanson: One thing I always did was if if stewie was you know 12 years old, and he was the pitcher that day, and if he walks five guys in a row and.

00:19:52.260 --> 00:20:03.720 Scott Nathanson: You know, you need to take them out of the game, so you take him out of the game, but I would never let me go home after the game until I practiced with him on the side after.

00:20:04.500 --> 00:20:14.040 Scott Nathanson: I would teach him something new, I would give them something to think about and I would tell them when we have tomorrow's game, before we start i'm going to work with you.

00:20:15.180 --> 00:20:20.790 Scott Nathanson: And that would give them a reason to want to come back and over the years, parents.

00:20:21.870 --> 00:20:24.510 Scott Nathanson: told me that was the greatest thing.

00:20:25.530 --> 00:20:36.780 Scott Nathanson: In order to keep my son or my daughter on an even level if you let them go home that way that child might not want to come back the next day.

00:20:36.990 --> 00:20:37.890 Albert Dabah: I think that's.

00:20:39.060 --> 00:20:49.260 Scott Nathanson: Really that's that's that's an important thing, so to me those two things being aware and also never letting somebody go home.

00:20:50.010 --> 00:20:58.590 Scott Nathanson: If they you know you know they had a bad day it wasn't just an average day it wasn't a day, where they you know they did some things good if they had a tough tough day.

00:20:59.970 --> 00:21:12.330 Scott Nathanson: He worked with them before you send them home and and you make some corrections give them something to think about and let them know that you're going to work before they play the next game.

00:21:12.690 --> 00:21:26.040 Albert Dabah: Right, you know it's interesting what you're saying, because i've been approached by a producer to possibly work on a film I won't say the name of it now because nothing's out, you know it's nothing's official.

00:21:27.450 --> 00:21:38.280 Albert Dabah: But it's a film about how coaches and parents can really ruin the game, and this is a different sport, he voted about, but it really applies to any sport.

00:21:40.650 --> 00:21:47.700 Albert Dabah: And what you're talking about is the antithesis of what this script is about about when you don't.

00:21:50.100 --> 00:21:57.420 Albert Dabah: And I remember having some coaches like this that would, if you made an error, you would get really screamed at.

00:21:58.290 --> 00:22:11.250 Albert Dabah: And I mentioned one name from someone from the prey guns i'm sure you don't remember it, but I won't mention a name now but, and I was on his team, and if you made an error oh my gosh so I could have the worst thing in the world.

00:22:12.030 --> 00:22:12.870 Scott Nathanson: And right.

00:22:13.140 --> 00:22:15.960 Albert Dabah: And that's like the worst thing you can do and.

00:22:17.130 --> 00:22:36.630 Albert Dabah: And this script you know is is about, that is, about how people lose the taste and the love of the game that they're playing because of the attitude of the not just the coaches, but the parents as well, because many times the parents like I coached my son playing baseball for years.

00:22:37.680 --> 00:22:41.910 Albert Dabah: And I took a lot of you know, I heard a lot of stuff from parents and.

00:22:42.600 --> 00:22:51.600 Albert Dabah: One quick real story i'll say it was all star game, and you know they have certain amount of innings per week that you could pitch right one of my players.

00:22:52.410 --> 00:23:02.610 Albert Dabah: We were winning by a lot, maybe eight nothing or eight to one, I think it was like a 22 and I didn't realize that our pitcher didn't give up a hit because he walked a bunch of batters.

00:23:03.360 --> 00:23:11.130 Albert Dabah: And I took them out after four or five innings because I wanted to save him because he had and man that I get reamed out the next day from his father.

00:23:11.880 --> 00:23:18.990 Albert Dabah: And I said I didn't even really know he had a no hitter until someone told me afterwards i'm concerned about the score of the game.

00:23:19.470 --> 00:23:27.840 Albert Dabah: i'm sorry if you're upset but i'm saving him because he's a really good pitcher and we need him for the other games that's that's the way the rules go.

00:23:28.470 --> 00:23:40.560 Albert Dabah: And you know I got Rien that because of doing something to help these kids go on, but sometimes you just have to educate parents and just deal with it and that's the way it is.

00:23:40.830 --> 00:23:54.780 Scott Nathanson: Well, I could I could tell you something that when I was teaching when I was coaching D with Clinton high school in the bronx I was living in yonkers and somebody came to Clinton.

00:23:56.040 --> 00:23:58.110 Scott Nathanson: They ran the south river there.

00:23:59.130 --> 00:24:08.010 Scott Nathanson: riverdale literally and they wanted to hire somebody to teach the volunteer coaches, how to coach.

00:24:09.330 --> 00:24:19.770 Scott Nathanson: And they ended up hiring me, and it was a great experience I would meet the coaches an hour before they were going to meet the kids with a plan of.

00:24:20.490 --> 00:24:33.540 Scott Nathanson: You know, this is what we're going to cover today, and this is how you teach it and I taught each of the different things, and then during the practices, I went around from group to group and watch the coaches coach.

00:24:33.810 --> 00:24:43.980 Albert Dabah: Well that's terrific to have that opportunity for these coaches to get from you, so what I wanted to get into talking about umpiring.

00:24:45.630 --> 00:24:47.970 Albert Dabah: what's it like to umpire baseball game.

00:24:49.500 --> 00:25:04.890 Stewart Bodner: Well it's um can be very, very difficult and one of my pet peeves is that the best umpires get the better teams and those are the easier games to umpire.

00:25:06.780 --> 00:25:07.740 Albert Dabah: Somebody you get.

00:25:07.770 --> 00:25:11.370 Albert Dabah: You get picked up empire, the better teams if you're a good you're better.

00:25:18.900 --> 00:25:30.690 Stewart Bodner: I mean i'm like i'm going to be 70 if you think I can go from first to third to make a call with one of these kids running the bases business no way so.

00:25:31.260 --> 00:25:43.290 Stewart Bodner: Over time, you learn and get experience and develop the right angle to make the call so you're not always in the best position, but you know you try to do well, but I can say that today.

00:25:45.570 --> 00:25:49.350 Stewart Bodner: The level of play is much poorer than it used to be.

00:25:49.830 --> 00:25:50.670 Albert Dabah: booked for.

00:25:51.300 --> 00:26:08.490 Albert Dabah: This let it, let me interlude one thing for people who don't know this, but like in games like that you empire, you said there's normally two coaches to on price per game right so like in the major leagues that most people watch this forum pyres when I was a big difference.

00:26:09.000 --> 00:26:10.320 Stewart Bodner: very big difference.

00:26:10.440 --> 00:26:15.120 Stewart Bodner: uh huh am prior to championship game at Yankee stadium at third I was at third base.

00:26:16.440 --> 00:26:25.230 Stewart Bodner: It was a extra inning game, if I had to calls at third base and one foul ball call in two and a half hours.

00:26:26.370 --> 00:26:26.760 Stewart Bodner: Is it.

00:26:27.390 --> 00:26:27.840 Albert Dabah: Right.

00:26:28.020 --> 00:26:43.170 Stewart Bodner: You know your responsibility still important, because you still have to rotate and cover properly, but basically you're not doing too much when you're at third base, but if you're a first base in it let's say playoff game.

00:26:44.670 --> 00:27:00.990 Stewart Bodner: You kind of move around the field you've got to get to the places where the calls are going to be made, plus you've got to watch all the touches of the bases, while the ball is right running out in the outfield you've got a lot of responsibility, so I think it's a lot more difficult.

00:27:01.920 --> 00:27:04.890 Albert Dabah: Do you take a lot of you get a lot of flack from the fans.

00:27:07.170 --> 00:27:08.700 Stewart Bodner: More than you could imagine.

00:27:10.410 --> 00:27:12.600 Stewart Bodner: it's gotten much worse over the years.

00:27:12.630 --> 00:27:13.860 Albert Dabah: Really there's.

00:27:14.700 --> 00:27:27.930 Stewart Bodner: there's a lot on the line you know, like you said, not everybody can be a major league baseball player, but as scotty knows a lot of these guys are trying for division one division two Division three colleges.

00:27:27.990 --> 00:27:28.410 Albert Dabah: Right.

00:27:28.680 --> 00:27:32.790 Stewart Bodner: Or to get scholarships so there's always money involved and.

00:27:34.110 --> 00:27:40.890 Stewart Bodner: stature prestige and parents are not the most objective people about their children.

00:27:42.600 --> 00:27:46.230 Albert Dabah: yeah I think it's impossible to be subjective about your own child.

00:27:47.340 --> 00:27:49.410 Albert Dabah: I mean you try to be but.

00:27:50.760 --> 00:28:00.870 Albert Dabah: You know it's difficult but I remember going through it and trying to be as objective as possible, like I that situation, I told you about taking that kid out.

00:28:02.550 --> 00:28:19.020 Albert Dabah: You know I remember thinking God doesn't doesn't he understand, we want to win you know going for you know one game, at a time and get the win it's not how how important it is that you have sudden didn't give up ahead, it means.

00:28:19.170 --> 00:28:26.730 Stewart Bodner: One factor among many and i'll give you an example why it's my kid playing right field, he should be playing shortstop.

00:28:27.750 --> 00:28:42.330 Stewart Bodner: wise, my goodness, I don't feel should be catching I mean there's so many factors and baseball is one of the most amazing games, because I think I read somewhere that there are so many possible statistics in baseball but each position.

00:28:43.680 --> 00:28:44.400 But each.

00:28:46.560 --> 00:28:58.530 Stewart Bodner: For batting for pitching fielding that it's it's very difficult to gauge someone's performance based on statistics, sometimes it has to come from your.

00:28:58.950 --> 00:29:10.170 Stewart Bodner: observations and how well it good place how well he runs, how will he moves, you know from maybe left to Center rather than from right to say you know there's so many factors involved.

00:29:10.830 --> 00:29:11.190 Right.

00:29:12.660 --> 00:29:21.510 Stewart Bodner: That to me becomes part of the what scotty calls, you know the surf coaching mentality and let me say this about Scott, because he won't say.

00:29:22.440 --> 00:29:29.340 Stewart Bodner: I have played with many guys in my wife, I would say, is one of the most inspirational players that I ever played with.

00:29:29.910 --> 00:29:48.300 Stewart Bodner: And he did play longer than 1970 because we played together on in the open weeks in 1973 and 74 and he usually played second base and he was one of the few people who are would allow to come to a mountain to talk to me I wouldn't even let Jerry catch he was the manager coming up.

00:29:50.010 --> 00:29:50.460 Stewart Bodner: So.

00:29:51.540 --> 00:29:52.350 Scott Nathanson: Thank you Stuart.

00:29:52.560 --> 00:29:56.550 Stewart Bodner: was great I mean you know it's true scotty was.

00:29:56.700 --> 00:30:07.620 Albert Dabah: Well, well well well come right back and talk about some of the I remember scotty saying you know, like he was the biggest guy make chatter than i've ever play with.

00:30:08.880 --> 00:30:09.480 Stewart Bodner: it's true.

00:30:09.660 --> 00:30:10.560 Albert Dabah: didn't shut up.

00:30:13.140 --> 00:30:18.210 Albert Dabah: Anyway, we'll be right back with Scott Nathan and Stuart partner in just a moment, thank you.

00:30:18.570 --> 00:30:18.900 Scott Nathanson: Thank you.

00:33:06.390 --> 00:33:07.110 Albert Dabah: scotty.

00:33:08.310 --> 00:33:18.720 Albert Dabah: we're back here with extra innings I wanted to ask you, so how has code affected the whole baseball world in terms of playing and coaching.

00:33:31.200 --> 00:33:31.920 Albert Dabah: I can't hear.

00:33:33.750 --> 00:33:43.440 Scott Nathanson: There you go, I think it depends on where you work throughout the country I think out in the wider spaces.

00:33:44.460 --> 00:33:47.310 Scott Nathanson: It really didn't have too much of an effect.

00:33:48.810 --> 00:33:51.900 Scott Nathanson: But I do think in the more populated areas.

00:33:53.190 --> 00:33:55.830 Scott Nathanson: You know, it had a great effect because.

00:33:56.880 --> 00:33:57.930 Scott Nathanson: You know, first of all.

00:33:59.040 --> 00:34:04.770 Scott Nathanson: There was no ball being able to be played, and when they did allow it.

00:34:06.360 --> 00:34:10.230 Scott Nathanson: You know players were wearing masks all the time and.

00:34:11.610 --> 00:34:26.610 Scott Nathanson: it's a very the game of baseball is a game about communication being in the right place at the right time, and I think there was a little stifling it was a little stifling to be playing with the masks on, for you know for younger players.

00:34:28.380 --> 00:34:36.870 Scott Nathanson: But now that we're coming out of it and the stadiums are starting to be opened up, you know, on the professional level.

00:34:38.040 --> 00:34:57.120 Scott Nathanson: You know I think it'll be back to somewhat normalcy very soon the stadiums are starting to be able to be 75 or 100% capacity now, so you know, I think that that will pass you know the time period will pass.

00:35:05.550 --> 00:35:06.090 Albert Dabah: Hello.

00:35:06.300 --> 00:35:07.140 Scott Nathanson: yeah there you go.

00:35:07.260 --> 00:35:08.640 Albert Dabah: Okay, so um.

00:35:10.590 --> 00:35:22.680 Albert Dabah: So I was at the Yankee game yesterday, as I was telling you before the show started and, for me it because i've i've had season tickets for three years and i've gone to so many different.

00:35:23.400 --> 00:35:28.320 Albert Dabah: games playoff Games will serve these games i've been really fortunate that way.

00:35:28.920 --> 00:35:36.900 Albert Dabah: And yesterday, as I said, to see a triple play and the game was terrific and I said I was with my son and my daughter, and I said triple play coming up.

00:35:37.380 --> 00:35:43.650 Albert Dabah: And I you know you say that all the time you say home run and it happened, and I was like I don't believe it I call it, you know.

00:35:44.220 --> 00:35:52.410 Albert Dabah: But I always I always feel like i'm home when I mean Yankee stadium, no matter where I sit, no matter where I am no matter who's sitting next to me.

00:35:52.830 --> 00:36:12.420 Albert Dabah: I could be by myself, I could be with good friends of mine, I always feel that i'm home and it brings me back to mental health, my own mental health of from the family, I grew up in and what what what it was like to play baseball as a kid to play baseball with the bonnie's.

00:36:13.620 --> 00:36:17.640 Albert Dabah: You remember our Lyons who was on the bonnie's.

00:36:17.760 --> 00:36:30.900 Albert Dabah: yep now he's an African American guy who I went to a Jewish high school and elementary school, so my whole world was this little niche and I grew up in the Community, that was very.

00:36:32.550 --> 00:36:33.600 Albert Dabah: You know, isolated.

00:36:34.380 --> 00:36:35.070 Albert Dabah: and

00:36:35.610 --> 00:36:51.360 Albert Dabah: And and that's the way it was an Orthodox but I had a breakout I had I had to play and I always remember playing catch with outlines before a game and also eugene remember eugene.

00:36:51.450 --> 00:36:52.590 Scott Nathanson: eugene lightfoot.

00:36:52.890 --> 00:37:04.110 Albert Dabah: Right lifer and every time eugene I remember ever feel my palm now how like wow cuz He threw hard he was of people that I ever played with you to the hardest.

00:37:04.170 --> 00:37:05.100 Scott Nathanson: He had a cannon.

00:37:05.940 --> 00:37:19.290 Albert Dabah: He had a cannon and but I always remember feeling this sense of acceptance and unity it didn't matter what color you are it didn't matter where you came from.

00:37:19.920 --> 00:37:43.860 Albert Dabah: And yeah if you didn't do well you know there were times I got really down, but you know just sometimes just moving a runner over hitting a flyball sacrifice fly getting a hit getting a good hit, even if it's caught a there was always that camaraderie you know slapping the hands that.

00:37:45.180 --> 00:38:03.630 Albert Dabah: there's nothing like it, and you know, I was in school, you know I did Okay, I did just enough to get by but I always dreamt of being a baseball player that was my dream and I played it Liu a little bit you were at allow you as well.

00:38:03.720 --> 00:38:04.860 Albert Dabah: huh yes.

00:38:06.870 --> 00:38:21.900 Albert Dabah: But what I have to say about it was that I think that, depending on who your coaches are and where you come from and the support you get that can make such a difference in a person's life.

00:38:22.620 --> 00:38:35.160 Albert Dabah: Whether you're a young boy, a young girl playing a sport and not just for it but we're talking sports now, for the most part, I think, having that support.

00:38:35.880 --> 00:38:47.610 Albert Dabah: is like like the way you talk about and and, as do it talks about you, I think that's just really great to give that support it's like a measurable.

00:38:48.090 --> 00:38:54.510 Albert Dabah: You can't you can't measure that it's just something that when people come and they want to play for you.

00:38:55.110 --> 00:39:13.890 Albert Dabah: i've seen all kinds of coaches and they're a good coaches great coaches and they're bad coaches and and there are kids with terrible attitudes at times on playing and sometimes there's not much you can do about it, I think, because of wherever they come from, you can try do your best.

00:39:15.540 --> 00:39:21.120 Albert Dabah: But you know i'm sure sort of you had it, I had to throw someone out of a game.

00:39:22.620 --> 00:39:33.570 Stewart Bodner: i'm a couple of times, but basically what you're trying to do is keep the coaching game, because, especially with young kids they may not be any adult supervision.

00:39:35.040 --> 00:39:35.460 Stewart Bodner: You know.

00:39:35.700 --> 00:39:37.590 Albert Dabah: Around right right that's true.

00:39:37.680 --> 00:39:43.290 Stewart Bodner: Well, I don't I really never I I don't go into a game saying i'm throwing someone out.

00:39:43.320 --> 00:39:44.370 Albert Dabah: Now I understand.

00:39:44.370 --> 00:39:47.190 Stewart Bodner: I could come and show you up and do all kinds of things.

00:39:47.550 --> 00:39:56.130 Stewart Bodner: The one thing you have to learn is to take it, because you only other person on that field who's your Pal is your partner, otherwise.

00:39:56.670 --> 00:40:08.460 Stewart Bodner: it's you against the world and I kind of like that, I mean I that I can relate to that having grown up in a family, you know, in a family, where you know my parents were Holocaust survivors and.

00:40:09.120 --> 00:40:16.140 Stewart Bodner: They were quite vulnerable people, and you know, used to say my father, used to say in German that for him to be normal would be abnormal.

00:40:17.040 --> 00:40:27.600 Stewart Bodner: So growing up in that environment and then leaving that niche neighborhood to go and play ball, with so many different guys from different backgrounds.

00:40:28.470 --> 00:40:42.570 Stewart Bodner: I just found I guess the phrase, I will use this there was a synergy that develops that's kind of exhilarating and I think scotty would agree with me that there is no better feeling than being in a locker room after a game.

00:40:45.120 --> 00:40:47.430 Stewart Bodner: In which you've won and the team played well.

00:40:48.660 --> 00:40:51.180 Stewart Bodner: there's just an atmosphere that you, you.

00:40:52.230 --> 00:40:55.020 Stewart Bodner: You can't describe refueling so.

00:40:55.740 --> 00:40:56.820 Scott Nathanson: I agree with.

00:40:56.880 --> 00:41:04.140 Scott Nathanson: I agree with you still under 100% and just to relate that you know to suicide.

00:41:05.760 --> 00:41:09.090 Scott Nathanson: yeah you have that support you have that camaraderie.

00:41:10.980 --> 00:41:12.210 Scott Nathanson: On the negative end.

00:41:13.830 --> 00:41:19.320 Scott Nathanson: Some players when they retire never have that feeling again in their whole life.

00:41:20.760 --> 00:41:26.190 Scott Nathanson: And they feel like they're out there on their own and they can't replace the feeling of being in a locker room.

00:41:27.540 --> 00:41:37.350 Scott Nathanson: Okay, and I would imagine it's probably similar to people who are performers once the clapping stops.

00:41:38.400 --> 00:41:40.740 Scott Nathanson: You know it's a tough thing to replace.

00:41:43.200 --> 00:41:44.910 Scott Nathanson: So I agree with you stu.

00:41:46.830 --> 00:41:58.830 Scott Nathanson: In 2000 know in 1996 I coached I was not the magic germs coach with Ken oberg fell in elmira New York.

00:41:59.700 --> 00:42:15.630 Scott Nathanson: And at the end of the Games near the end of the season people used to crowd around the clubhouse and you know they'd be there to get a hat or wristband or get an autograph and when I went back to teach school in September I said.

00:42:16.890 --> 00:42:25.590 Scott Nathanson: How come my students don't want my autograph you know there, I was a hero, and here, sometimes you feel like you're the enemy.

00:42:27.510 --> 00:42:45.510 Scott Nathanson: So what you're saying Stewart is 100% correct, I just want to say one more thing out, but because I don't want to forget want to thank you for the opportunity to do this, but I also want to show you something that you brought up before about feeling at home.

00:42:47.940 --> 00:42:49.230 Scott Nathanson: I happened to be sitting.

00:42:52.260 --> 00:42:53.820 Scott Nathanson: I don't know if you can see, this yet.

00:42:54.030 --> 00:42:54.780 Stewart Bodner: You see it.

00:42:55.560 --> 00:42:56.160 Scott Nathanson: You see it.

00:42:56.490 --> 00:42:59.520 Scott Nathanson: yeah i'm sitting in a Yankee chair.

00:42:59.790 --> 00:43:02.700 Albert Dabah: A feeling that's what it was gonna be yeah.

00:43:02.790 --> 00:43:07.620 Scott Nathanson: Okay, let me see if I can i'll raise it up right.

00:43:09.390 --> 00:43:11.160 Scott Nathanson: A Yankee stadium chair.

00:43:11.580 --> 00:43:22.380 Scott Nathanson: Alright, that my wife's my wife's family what, for her father, because she grew up in the Yankee house to my wife Susan.

00:43:23.580 --> 00:43:26.130 Scott Nathanson: married 46 years i'm very lucky guy.

00:43:27.420 --> 00:43:28.350 Albert Dabah: that's great whereas.

00:43:28.590 --> 00:43:40.830 Scott Nathanson: Without her I wouldn't have been able to go through this career of traveling and coaching and working with everybody else's you know, young people and even the adults and.

00:43:41.940 --> 00:43:47.700 Scott Nathanson: We inherited this Chair he still he still alive, thank God, our father.

00:43:48.870 --> 00:43:56.340 Scott Nathanson: But they had three girls and the three daughters bought that for their father.

00:43:56.880 --> 00:43:58.770 Albert Dabah: that's sweet that's really nice.

00:43:58.800 --> 00:44:01.470 Scott Nathanson: yeah the most comfortable chair in my house.

00:44:02.850 --> 00:44:10.770 Scott Nathanson: When I watch a ballgame I love to sit in this chair and I feel with a big screen TV, you could feel like like you're at Yankee stadium.

00:44:11.070 --> 00:44:12.150 Albert Dabah: yeah yeah.

00:44:12.240 --> 00:44:14.490 Scott Nathanson: it's it's a wonderful thing, so.

00:44:14.550 --> 00:44:19.350 Scott Nathanson: I don't know what you feel feel like when you're at Yankee stadium, because I grew up there to.

00:44:20.700 --> 00:44:22.410 Scott Nathanson: spent a lot of summers spending.

00:44:23.460 --> 00:44:36.720 Scott Nathanson: You know, as a young guy you know at Yankee stadium and getting the new lots train and getting to Yankee stadium leaving 930 in the morning getting to the stadium and 11 when the gates open.

00:44:37.260 --> 00:44:51.930 Scott Nathanson: And then we'd run out to the right or left field, depending on which team, the yanks were playing if they had right handed hitters a left handed hitters so you brought that up before and I wanted to let you know that you're 100% spot on.

00:44:52.440 --> 00:44:52.740 Stewart Bodner: and

00:44:52.890 --> 00:45:10.230 Stewart Bodner: Since we're bringing up wives, you have to have a wife that's you know a good friend, because i've been, together with my wife 48 years coral and she is a big baseball fan, but without that support at home there's no way you could do this.

00:45:10.350 --> 00:45:25.740 Albert Dabah: Oh absolutely I hundred percent agree on that we're going to have to take a break and we'll continue with our discussion with Sue partner and Scott Nathan, thank you we'll be right back you're welcome.

00:47:41.850 --> 00:47:53.490 Albert Dabah: hi we're back with Scott and Stuart a before the show started scotty you had mentioned that you watch extra innings again, I think you said last night or the night before last.

00:47:53.760 --> 00:47:54.540 Scott Nathanson: yeah and.

00:47:54.840 --> 00:48:02.790 Albert Dabah: I wanted to ask you, you know you said you saw things that you didn't see before it, you know, like which you know you when you see a film, the second time that's.

00:48:03.330 --> 00:48:17.880 Albert Dabah: That can usually happen, but you know, thank you again for watching it again, but I wanted to ask you what What did you see the second time around, and what was your impression of it, as opposed to the first time around.

00:48:19.980 --> 00:48:25.650 Scott Nathanson: I paid, I was able to pay more attention to maurices character.

00:48:25.950 --> 00:48:26.400 mm hmm.

00:48:28.080 --> 00:48:30.600 Scott Nathanson: the depth of his character.

00:48:32.760 --> 00:48:39.480 Scott Nathanson: and almost how frustrating that I felt for him that.

00:48:40.590 --> 00:48:44.310 Scott Nathanson: When he was receptive to being spoken to.

00:48:47.730 --> 00:48:48.120 Scott Nathanson: It quick.

00:48:49.260 --> 00:49:01.230 Scott Nathanson: The timeframe ended and they had to go to something else he seemed to be wanting to have somebody talked to them and really interact with them, but it was.

00:49:02.580 --> 00:49:03.870 Scott Nathanson: David has to go.

00:49:05.610 --> 00:49:10.650 Scott Nathanson: You know each each character had something that they had a run and do you had to go to work.

00:49:12.360 --> 00:49:17.190 Scott Nathanson: You know the mom wasn't able to deal at that point with him.

00:49:18.270 --> 00:49:18.570 Scott Nathanson: So.

00:49:18.750 --> 00:49:25.110 Albert Dabah: Let me just let me just stop you for a second just to let people know so David is the young kid in the film.

00:49:25.260 --> 00:49:29.010 Albert Dabah: Correct and and and Maurice is the older brother.

00:49:29.400 --> 00:49:35.790 Albert Dabah: Right his head is now mental health problems, just to let the audience know who hasn't seen the movie.

00:49:36.990 --> 00:49:42.840 Scott Nathanson: yeah so um I thought he was great that the actor that played Maurice.

00:49:44.400 --> 00:49:58.140 Scott Nathanson: did a tremendous job, and you, I really felt, you know sad for him, he did such such a good job that he.

00:49:59.220 --> 00:50:06.720 Scott Nathanson: For as much as he same alone, and he listened to the music and it was very dramatic.

00:50:08.160 --> 00:50:16.830 Scott Nathanson: spent more time paid more attention he would have felt better about himself and that there was hope there.

00:50:19.620 --> 00:50:25.230 Scott Nathanson: So that that's what I saw the second time around, you know the major point to me.

00:50:25.650 --> 00:50:33.270 Albert Dabah: You know I have most of his records right here, sitting behind me and I bought a record player, about two years ago.

00:50:33.750 --> 00:50:44.670 Albert Dabah: I had him sitting around, and I said hey let me get a record player and I play them and every now and then and and I found an old letter that he wrote.

00:50:45.660 --> 00:50:55.530 Albert Dabah: To my parents I don't know where I found I found it in one of these books that I had here, and he said that he always dreamed to go to Europe to a a.

00:50:56.550 --> 00:50:59.370 Albert Dabah: School for art which I never even knew that.

00:51:00.870 --> 00:51:16.560 Albert Dabah: But um he if it wasn't for him, you know who knows, I might not have ever you know known anything about baseball I mean he he and I didn't I didn't even realize that till much later that he really taught me baseball it was.

00:51:17.880 --> 00:51:27.840 Albert Dabah: He with his passion, when he talked to me that was the only thing you really talk to me ever about with such passion and he talked about the old baseball before his time.

00:51:28.350 --> 00:51:39.540 Albert Dabah: The ty cobbs the homeless wagner's and then I would read books about him and go wow these are real people that played the game, and he knows about them and.

00:51:41.460 --> 00:51:52.170 Albert Dabah: As he started with two with two or more and more in his life ironmen never forget, he was in the hospital, we went to see him and he spent some years, no hospital but hated it and.

00:51:53.910 --> 00:52:01.530 Albert Dabah: It was a during the world series that we went to visit him and I said hey the Yankees won last night in the world series, and he it was like I didn't say.

00:52:02.220 --> 00:52:15.210 Albert Dabah: He had no then phase and one bit, and then I really saw oh my gosh she's really lost, you know, he was really sad but it gave him something at one time in his life.

00:52:15.720 --> 00:52:30.150 Albert Dabah: And it passed it on to me and i'll forever be grateful for that that he did, and as far as my sister she she was the total opposite she was out there, she supported me and everything.

00:52:30.540 --> 00:52:40.080 Albert Dabah: The main thing, she would always say is go for your dreams and this one of the reasons why I started to do this, show was the whole idea about.

00:52:41.100 --> 00:52:47.130 Albert Dabah: Supporting people to go for their dreams there's ups and downs in life.

00:52:47.730 --> 00:53:04.590 Albert Dabah: Always with everything um I was supposed to be in Israel now, for I I i'm divorced, I have three children, I still I get along well with my ex wife, we went to the game actually yesterday for father's day with her and my two kids and my son just got married with his wife.

00:53:04.890 --> 00:53:05.670 Scott Nathanson: very nice.

00:53:05.730 --> 00:53:11.100 Albert Dabah: yeah and all three kids live away ones in Fort lauderdale to in Santa Monica beautiful places to visit.

00:53:11.730 --> 00:53:20.370 Albert Dabah: Right and I was supposed to be in Israel, with my girlfriend whose daughter was getting married and but because of coven Israel as closed till I believe.

00:53:21.150 --> 00:53:27.630 Albert Dabah: July 1, at least at this point, and it really saddens me that because yesterday was the wedding.

00:53:28.230 --> 00:53:37.860 Albert Dabah: That I couldn't be there and she's she's away for four weeks because her daughter lives there she's marrying an Israeli she went there on birthright and met an Israeli guy.

00:53:38.400 --> 00:53:44.250 Albert Dabah: And it really said me a lot, you know after seeing she sent me pictures of the wedding and all that.

00:53:44.670 --> 00:53:56.880 Albert Dabah: The same time is that a Yankee game so there's all this like mixed thing going on, and I should be there, I wish I was there, but I am a heretic and then, when that triple play happened, I was like whoa This is like.

00:53:57.930 --> 00:53:58.740 Albert Dabah: You know.

00:54:00.120 --> 00:54:07.650 Albert Dabah: I think the things that you can see whether it's in whatever you are interested in, and I think that's one of the main things.

00:54:08.670 --> 00:54:19.110 Albert Dabah: I i'm reading a book by a woman who was on the show who's a healer and she does she calls herself a healer because she does all these different kinds of healing and.

00:54:21.570 --> 00:54:29.430 Albert Dabah: She said, if you can't say what you love and who you love.

00:54:30.570 --> 00:54:39.990 Albert Dabah: These are questions to really asked and to know where, if someone is that in their life, and I think that is really a basic truth like what is it that you love.

00:54:40.620 --> 00:54:53.130 Albert Dabah: Who is it that you love and it doesn't have to mean that you're in this relationship with someone you love it could be your friends, it could be anybody, but when you find yourself alone and.

00:54:54.300 --> 00:55:03.720 Albert Dabah: feeling like you're not accepted, or you just feel left out that's that's a sign that that person needs help.

00:55:04.530 --> 00:55:05.100 Albert Dabah: And I know.

00:55:05.250 --> 00:55:19.800 Albert Dabah: On through that myself at times you know where, am I, you know growing up in a household that I did, and I had to fight hard and go to a lot of therapy to to really get through what what what you know what went on in my house.

00:55:20.850 --> 00:55:32.160 Albert Dabah: But I will say that I still love baseball as much as anything and going to a game kind of you know it's so different than watching on TV i'll say that to anyone.

00:55:33.630 --> 00:55:37.950 Albert Dabah: But anyway, any closing thoughts, you have we're coming to the end of the show well.

00:55:38.010 --> 00:55:39.390 Scott Nathanson: let's do it, you go first.

00:55:39.450 --> 00:55:46.740 Stewart Bodner: You know, we were discussing you know the ups and downs were just mentioned that and that we should be compassionate sensitive.

00:55:47.130 --> 00:55:56.310 Stewart Bodner: But one thing about baseball is that it prepares you for life, because it is a meritocracy you don't play well you're not going to play much.

00:55:57.000 --> 00:56:07.920 Stewart Bodner: I mean that's just a fact, and I think that's a good thing, because it allows you to assess your ability and if you're honest with yourself, you deal with it.

00:56:09.840 --> 00:56:11.700 Albert Dabah: Good point really good point.

00:56:12.390 --> 00:56:19.380 Scott Nathanson: 100% yeah what I was just going to say is the game itself is a game of failure.

00:56:20.490 --> 00:56:30.750 Scott Nathanson: If you're a great hitter you get three hits out of out of 10 you failed seven times, but there were things that you can do to make a productive out.

00:56:31.260 --> 00:56:43.080 Scott Nathanson: You can hit behind a runner you could hit a sacrifice fly you could sacrifice bunt some of the things that you and I, and Stuart would agree are being taken out of the game.

00:56:45.180 --> 00:56:47.700 Scott Nathanson: I feel it's a negative, not a positives.

00:56:48.990 --> 00:56:58.290 Scott Nathanson: To move a runner as a positive thing to bunt is not a defensive move it's a way to make the other team handle the ball and defend the whole field.

00:56:58.890 --> 00:56:59.760 Albert Dabah: yeah yeah.

00:56:59.940 --> 00:57:05.460 Scott Nathanson: And with the shifts that are being played teams are not defending the whole field anymore.

00:57:05.790 --> 00:57:12.450 Scott Nathanson: Right right and as an offense if you could make the team defend the whole field, then you're doing a good job.

00:57:12.690 --> 00:57:19.470 Albert Dabah: yeah well there's there's there's so many changes in baseball we're going to have to end now, I just want to say one thing on a personal note.

00:57:20.490 --> 00:57:26.700 Albert Dabah: I girlfriend lizzie I want to say hello to her and Israel and to a congratulations to her.

00:57:27.210 --> 00:57:42.840 Albert Dabah: daughter Lindsay and nimrod for their marriage yesterday in Israel, congratulations to them and wish you all well, and thank you guys for being on the show tonight, it was a pleasure and we'll meet up again, one day soon, thank you.

00:57:42.900 --> 00:57:44.310 Scott Nathanson: Thank you very much album.

00:57:44.310 --> 00:57:53.400 Scott Nathanson: For the opportunity, and this has been a wonderful experience Thank you stu for joining, and it was a great a great time.

00:57:54.000 --> 00:57:54.480 Stewart Bodner: Very agree.

00:57:54.720 --> 00:57:55.140 Albert Dabah: Okay.

00:57:55.200 --> 00:57:57.390 Scott Nathanson: Have a good night, thank you, thank you bye bye.