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EPISODE SUMMARY:
The audience will see the connection between the body and somatic responses to herbal therapies for people with Epilepsy. The impact that sound and herbs play with body, mind and emotions.
One stage of epilepsy is dealing with appropriate treatment.
What herbs and supplements are good for people with epilepsy?
What herbs are not good for someone with epilepsy? There are several foods and
reactions that sometimes people claim to be a cause of their seizures or a seizure trigger
What herbs are good for ADHD?
There is a close link between ADHD and epilepsy and researchers are still figuring out the connection. They see the brain hyperactivity and impulsivity is there in both cases, but is there are closer neurological connection?
Kate Brennan will answer questions like these and show that treatment can be holistic along with the typical medication that most patients take to control seizures.
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00:00:48.900 --> 00:00:55.390 Frank R. Harrison: hey, everybody, and welcome to a new stages of epilepsy episode of Frank about health.
00:00:55.410 --> 00:01:19.290 Frank R. Harrison: Today, we're gonna talk about another stage for several patients out there who actually engage in holistic therapy. And today we have a special guest courtesy of Jeff Dimitrack named Kate Brennan. And we're gonna learn a lot about holistic therapy using herbs for not only seizure control but also for other kinds of mental health disorders. Remember, this is mental health Awareness month.
00:01:19.290 --> 00:01:41.570 Frank R. Harrison: so we will probably touching upon. We will be touching upon Adhd among some other issues. But I also want to issue my disclaimer before we proceed, and that is, if you are already undergoing different types of treatment modalities for your seizure control. This episode is food for thought. To see if this would fit your needs, and if it doesn't, that is fine.
00:01:41.570 --> 00:02:11.299 Frank R. Harrison: Therefore, please observe this conversation as information to just share with your primary care physician, or your neurologist, or your epileptologists, or your psychiatrist, if you see one, and also realize they are not the thoughts and views of talk radio, Dot, Nyc or Frank about health, but rather an interesting conversation that we're about to engage in in the next hour. Now that being, said, Jeff, do you wanna do the honors and introduce our Ca, our guest today.
00:02:11.870 --> 00:02:20.120 Jeff: Yes, thank you, Frank. And I'm very honored to welcome Cape Brennan.
00:02:20.290 --> 00:02:27.130 Jeff: Coach Kate, a certified professional mindset coach and mental health advocate.
00:02:27.150 --> 00:02:37.910 Jeff: She has a following, and I was very happy to find her on Instagram, and anybody that watches this show can.
00:02:38.470 --> 00:03:04.180 Jeff: I guess, consult with her about different herbs. And you know that is useful for Malays memory epilepsy. You know, any type of breathwork. There's gonna be different things that she mentions to that tonight. So would you like to? elaborate Ka kait? Elaborate specialties?
00:03:04.250 --> 00:03:08.580 Kate Brennan: Sure. Well, Hi, Frank! Hi, Jeff, thank you so much for having me
00:03:08.810 --> 00:03:18.000 Kate Brennan: so I am a mindset coach, a holistic mindset coach, and that kind of sets me apart a little bit, being a holistic mindset coach.
00:03:18.000 --> 00:03:40.799 Kate Brennan: A lot of times when you are working in the mindset industry, it's focused on specifically the mindset and the mindset. Only I've branched out, and I work with the holistic medicine. I work with traditional natural coffee. I'm a breath worker. I actually created and trade work my own Natropath and breathwork work. So it's very interesting.
00:03:40.820 --> 00:03:57.050 Kate Brennan: I also I. Well, I do a lot. I do sound therapy. So I'm coaching. It's so fun.
00:03:57.910 --> 00:04:16.530 Kate Brennan: No, that's okay. So just coaching doing natural pathi worth it. Coincide, you know the 2 together, bringing them together rather than having just one out there by itself rather than just doing mindset work, really working on
00:04:16.860 --> 00:04:23.360 Kate Brennan: introducing people to a somatic and holistic approach to their whole body and their whole healing
00:04:23.860 --> 00:04:24.940 Frank R. Harrison: awesome.
00:04:25.050 --> 00:04:38.769 Frank R. Harrison: So when you deal with those patients with that holistic approach, are they also patients that are still taking medication for their seizure control, or possibly even having gone through some form of surgical intervention.
00:04:39.180 --> 00:04:54.180 Kate Brennan: Yes, often they are. So we have to be very cautious, obviously, and make sure that we're being just very sensitive to their needs and to the medications that they're on having open dialogue, making sure that we're working with
00:04:54.190 --> 00:04:58.499 Kate Brennan: medical professionals, and that we have everyone on the same page
00:04:59.080 --> 00:05:07.869 Frank R. Harrison: awesome, awesome. So what? So tell me, Kate, what got you into this? You are you living with epilepsy, or is it something else.
00:05:07.890 --> 00:05:11.370 Frank R. Harrison: and your background that really engaged you in this practice.
00:05:12.000 --> 00:05:16.289 Kate Brennan: So I have had seizures, but they were trauma induced.
00:05:16.590 --> 00:05:18.210 Kate Brennan: and I
00:05:18.490 --> 00:05:35.120 Kate Brennan: really have a heart for trauma informed work. Because of this. And because of this also, I've had people, you know, coming to me with epilepsy, who are very confused as to the relationship between their trauma and their epilepsy.
00:05:35.120 --> 00:06:04.510 Kate Brennan: And so induced, and it took a lot of healing to get to a place where I was no longer suffering from these seizures.
00:06:04.960 --> 00:06:11.060 Kate Brennan: So I have a soft spot, I guess you could say, for people who are undergoing this life altering issue.
00:06:11.850 --> 00:06:36.670 Frank R. Harrison: Now on that note we're, I mean, towards Jeff, and I have done shows on post traumatic epilepsy, like people being hit by a car and have a concussion or be in a coma. I gather, that did not happen to you. We're talking trauma from a psychological shock to the system. Probably you witness crime. Maybe. I mean. I don't even want to know exactly what you are not willing to share, but
00:06:36.670 --> 00:06:48.100 Frank R. Harrison: how, when you went through that trauma, I can only imagine. You must have experienced a shock that goes through the system that almost makes you feel like you're freezing in place, or that ice is going through your veins.
00:06:48.130 --> 00:07:08.909 Frank R. Harrison: Is that the kind of so when would the seizures have started started in response to that trauma during that time, or like days, later hours later, it was years later, honestly, and I actually didn't realize that I was going through seizures until it got to the point where I was in my 20 S. And I collapsed at college.
00:07:09.090 --> 00:07:11.769 Kate Brennan: and I had a full blown seizure
00:07:11.810 --> 00:07:24.650 Kate Brennan: in the middle of a soccer class at my college, and I have all my friends and peers standing around me as I'm having a seizure, and I'm wondering what is happening to my body.
00:07:25.410 --> 00:07:34.219 Frank R. Harrison: So you were awake. During that I had an awake seizure it was, I was partially aware. I was aware, that something was
00:07:34.390 --> 00:07:42.750 Kate Brennan: taking place in my body. I could not tell until later what was actually taking place.
00:07:43.110 --> 00:07:51.879 Kate Brennan: There was a lot of reports that came to me afterward of like, Hey, you know, you were seizing or shaking or doing, you know all the normal things.
00:07:51.960 --> 00:08:20.930 Kate Brennan: and feeling any pain in your limbs or things like that couldn't move your legs or arms. Yes, so it was interesting, because I had had episodes. We'll call them leading up to this situation where I would be in bed, and I would just start tremors shaking really severe, just, you know, couldn't control my body, and they would come and go.
00:08:21.040 --> 00:08:23.229 Kate Brennan: and I didn't know what was happening.
00:08:23.380 --> 00:08:28.739 Kate Brennan: until this happened, and I had an aura
00:08:28.880 --> 00:08:34.570 Kate Brennan: which is basically like you're you realize that something is coming over your body? Right? So
00:08:34.580 --> 00:08:44.769 Kate Brennan: I realized something was very wrong. Something was coming over. My body was kind of like that ice feeling somebody was dumping ice down my back and down my spine and into my legs.
00:08:44.840 --> 00:08:51.569 Kate Brennan: and I started having pain in my limbs. and I called someone over. I was on the soccer field
00:08:51.660 --> 00:08:57.250 Kate Brennan: and I called someone over. I said, I think you need to grab me, and as soon as they grab me I went down.
00:08:58.350 --> 00:09:28.229 Jeff: And that aura, was it more like deja vu? Or was it a heavy feeling in your head. For people that have psychogenic seizures, and maybe that is a a sign that it is a psychogenic seizure, that heavy feeling in their head more to an epileptic seizure that maybe it's deja vu, or those are the things that epileptic seizures. So maybe come
00:09:28.230 --> 00:09:29.290 Jeff: with an ore.
00:09:29.880 --> 00:09:31.330 Jeff: Yes, right?
00:09:31.680 --> 00:09:32.430 Jeff: Yeah.
00:09:32.650 --> 00:09:37.669 Frank R. Harrison: So what was the point at which you realized you needed to be evaluated to see what type of
00:09:37.810 --> 00:10:01.660 Frank R. Harrison: epilepsy or seizure disorder that this was for you. Was it after having more episodes, or was it immediately there after the first time? It was immediate? After that step episode it was we actually called 9 1 one. We had ambulances running and trying to pick me up and trying to figure out how to put me on the gurney, and I mean. It was this whole crazy experience that that had
00:10:02.020 --> 00:10:07.489 Kate Brennan: given me a lot of understanding as to the impact of how
00:10:07.830 --> 00:10:11.790 Kate Brennan: shame can sometimes creep in when we're dealing with our health issues
00:10:11.910 --> 00:10:16.439 Frank R. Harrison: and embarrassment can sometimes creep in when we're dealing with these health issues. Because
00:10:16.450 --> 00:10:23.240 Kate Brennan: in the moment, even though it's not your fault. You didn't do anything to bring on this episode.
00:10:23.620 --> 00:10:31.679 Kate Brennan: There's just this innate embarrassment sometimes when you're in public and you lose control.
00:10:32.210 --> 00:10:50.090 Jeff: And the scary part of seizures people watching you, you know. It's natural to feel a little embarrassed and shame, and and really, people with epilepsy the it that is very hard to accept.
00:10:50.190 --> 00:11:11.449 Kate Brennan: Yes, and we live in this society that really puts control on a pedestal so to have control ripped from your hands in such a sudden, impactful way that leaves an undeniable impact on you. And you have to decide how you're gonna deal with that. Are you going to, you know.
00:11:11.580 --> 00:11:25.869 Kate Brennan: create a mindset where you're going to say, okay. So I lost control. But I have control over how I respond. And now, going forward, I'm going to respond in a different manner. I'm going to understand that I don't have control over this. But I control my response.
00:11:25.990 --> 00:11:32.780 Kate Brennan: And it's it's okay. Or am I going to allow Shane to take take root? And I had to really battle with that?
00:11:33.310 --> 00:11:48.660 Frank R. Harrison: So it sounds like to me that your trauma was double. You had the social stigma that was traumatic into itself, trying to reprogram your way of being in the public eye while you're at your school, or with family or friends, or whatever, so that you looked
00:11:48.890 --> 00:11:54.879 Frank R. Harrison: not almost perfect. But you definitely look like, okay. I had a moment, but this is the real thing.
00:11:55.140 --> 00:11:56.730 Kate Brennan: Yes, yes.
00:11:57.240 --> 00:12:06.319 Kate Brennan: and I was gonna ask you, Kate, one more thing about your episode. How many was it? Severe convulsions? Yes, it was severe.
00:12:06.360 --> 00:12:23.129 Kate Brennan: It was my whole body was completely out of control. Severe convulsions, I mean I was. They put me on bleachers, and I was falling off the bleachers. You know I'm laying laying down at the time, and I have absolutely no control over my limbs. My body.
00:12:23.300 --> 00:12:25.360 Kate Brennan: nothing, nothing is
00:12:25.530 --> 00:12:38.199 Jeff: nothing is in control. And it was terrifying, incredible. Now, that being said, though, who was the first medical professional you spoke to? Was it a neurologist or a psychiatrist?
00:12:38.590 --> 00:12:46.179 So my psychiatrist actually was very helpful and understanding the role of trauma in this
00:12:46.270 --> 00:12:59.130 Kate Brennan: huge development. And it took me years to really understand what was happening at that time and what continued to happen thereafter for a series of years.
00:12:59.150 --> 00:13:07.180 Kate Brennan: it. It took a long time for me to really wrap my head around. Okay, this is this is happening. This is trauma. This is real.
00:13:07.400 --> 00:13:11.719 Kate Brennan: you know. And that took a long time, and it took a lot of professionals getting involved.
00:13:12.430 --> 00:13:16.919 Jeff: And did you also have anxiety attacks?
00:13:17.330 --> 00:13:29.870 Kate Brennan: I did. And we have to understand the role that worry plays in seizures. One of the main emotional responses that triggers seizures is worry and anxiety.
00:13:30.160 --> 00:13:43.169 Kate Brennan: So we have to understand that anxiety has a huge impact on seizures and epilepsy itself. So for someone with like myself who I was dealing with trauma, and thus there was a lot of anxiety and worry
00:13:43.380 --> 00:13:56.019 Kate Brennan: that was just. I was, unfortunately, I was creating a situation where I didn't mean to, where I didn't know that I was creating a situation, but because of my worry I was more predisposed to the situation happening.
00:13:56.360 --> 00:14:00.180 Frank R. Harrison: Yeah, I call it
00:14:00.280 --> 00:14:23.470 Frank R. Harrison: sorry. We're about to take our first break. But now that you've said that very eloquently, we're gonna go into the next segment pretty much discussing how you use your experience to. Now advocate for others with your platform, which we wanna learn more about when we get back. So, ladies and gentlemen, please stay tuned to this episode of Frank about health right here on talk radio, dot, Nyc and on twitch Linkedin
00:14:23.570 --> 00:14:26.540 Frank R. Harrison: Facebook and Youtube. We'll be back in a few.
00:16:32.640 --> 00:16:51.280 Frank R. Harrison: hey, everybody! Welcome back as you all saw. I showed your picture right there, introducing yourself to our audience as to the kind of work that you do, and you just made point of pointing out how anxiety and and trauma can definitely impact those living with epilepsy, but in your case
00:16:51.280 --> 00:17:13.340 Frank R. Harrison: being that your seizures were of a psychogenic nature, I can see how it almost influenced you into becoming definitely a mental health advocate. So I'd I'd like to you to share with the audience, and you know, discuss about that that practice and about what it is that you are doing for clients, and I gather for people other than people living with epilepsy.
00:17:13.569 --> 00:17:14.660 Kate Brennan: Yes.
00:17:14.770 --> 00:17:41.789 Kate Brennan: yes, so I actually consult as well as I coach, so that looks like coaching in the normal sense. That's asking lot of questions. That's dialogue. But there is a lot of teaching that goes into this about mental health, and how the role of mental health actually plays a big role in somebody whose journey is you know, maybe revolving around trauma. What does mental health look like for them. They need a lot of education.
00:17:41.860 --> 00:17:52.459 Kate Brennan: So, working with my clients, one-on-one and in groups, and just really bringing education as well as on my platform, social media just trying to
00:17:52.620 --> 00:18:00.739 Kate Brennan: bring an understanding of of how important mental health really is for all types of health.
00:18:00.970 --> 00:18:02.590 Frank R. Harrison: Yes, yes.
00:18:03.130 --> 00:18:05.610 Jeff: the web.
00:18:05.770 --> 00:18:30.520 Jeff: I was just gonna say that psychogenic seizures is kind of a work in progress. We've mentioned this before. When it comes to the definition, neurologists are still figuring it out. And you, a mental health advocate, and somebody that has studied many different forms of a you know, of therapies like yourself can really help because neurologists are kind of confused on the issue.
00:18:30.790 --> 00:18:32.400 Kate Brennan: Yeah, right?
00:18:32.570 --> 00:18:46.709 Frank R. Harrison: Yes. So well, from your experience with psychogenic epilepsy, what? Based on what Jeff said, would you say that you've discovered whether it was in your case or in case of other people, that it was probably not just
00:18:46.830 --> 00:18:57.990 Frank R. Harrison: living a trauma that induced it, but possibly they had another mental health disorder that was yet to be diagnosed, and it just converted into seizure activity before the diagnosis.
00:18:58.250 --> 00:19:05.190 Kate Brennan: Yes, so I see a lot of connection between anxiety disorders and epilepsy. Okay.
00:19:05.270 --> 00:19:12.010 Kate Brennan: And we've talked about this a little bit. But touching on this even more so, hyperventilation is something that we need to touch on, because
00:19:12.030 --> 00:19:23.240 Kate Brennan: it actually leads to abnormal brain activity. If you actually spend too long hyperventilating. And people don't realize that when you're in a state of hyperactivity,
00:19:23.700 --> 00:19:28.899 Kate Brennan: due to trauma and anxiety, you can actually put yourself at risk. If you don't.
00:19:28.990 --> 00:19:34.850 Kate Brennan: then take your mindset into account. So all these things have to come together and play a part.
00:19:35.270 --> 00:20:00.249 Jeff: Well, neurologists know this. I mean, they induce seizures by having patients hyperventilate. Unfortunately, they need to do induce seizures when they're changing medications. But you make a good point about hyperventilation, and a lot of people like myself included, you know, have seizures. Seizure triggers like heat exhaustion.
00:20:00.370 --> 00:20:05.359 Jeff: So yeah, when the brain is over active like that? Good?
00:20:05.580 --> 00:20:06.470 Kate Brennan: Yes.
00:20:06.660 --> 00:20:12.310 Frank R. Harrison: So what about people with Ptsd, do you see patients or clients with Ptsd.
00:20:12.630 --> 00:20:25.739 Kate Brennan: absolutely, absolutely. And I definitely see issues as far as epilepsy codes. I see a lot of issues as far as just a lot of mental issues that that come into
00:20:25.800 --> 00:20:28.300 Kate Brennan: play, that that just keep.
00:20:28.680 --> 00:20:43.859 Kate Brennan: They keep diagnosing one issue after another, and we forget that they're all connected. Right? So we forget they're all connected.
00:20:43.870 --> 00:20:56.610 Jeff: Okay, can you tell us so the links that you've seen between Adhd and epilepsy? It's Adhd awareness month. And II would like to hear your point of view on that. The links between those 2.
00:20:56.990 --> 00:21:03.350 Yeah. So it's actually estimated that 30 to 40% of children with epilepsy have Adhd.
00:21:03.550 --> 00:21:10.459 Kate Brennan: and this probably has something to do. Now, we're not totally sure but this probably has something to do with hyperactivity of the brain.
00:21:10.680 --> 00:21:19.850 Kate Brennan: Right? So this is really important to realize that Adhd may significantly, significantly increase the risk of epilepsy and vice versa.
00:21:19.960 --> 00:21:26.240 Kate Brennan: We also need to understand that there's a a chromosome abnormality found in both.
00:21:26.360 --> 00:21:44.430 Kate Brennan: So the 2 are very intrinsically linked, and we're still really realizing and getting to the root of how they're connected. But we're getting a lot more information as time goes on. As we research about how they're connected and how they do cross over one to the next.
00:21:44.970 --> 00:21:51.500 Frank R. Harrison: So on that note, would you say that a lot of the link for psychogenic seizures is genetically based?
00:21:52.040 --> 00:21:53.190 Kate Brennan: I
00:21:53.560 --> 00:21:56.600 Kate Brennan: that's a hard question.
00:21:58.970 --> 00:22:09.709 Jeff: Well, also, we're all just like to always just blame it on genetics, too.
00:22:09.840 --> 00:22:32.900 Frank R. Harrison: But in my case I suffer from genetically based epilepsy. It's already a lineage that's been proven through my mother's side of the family. Now the thing is is that it's under seizure control as a result of the medication that I take, and I know there are certain medications that are actually not programmed, but they match the DNA of the individual patient. Now, I'm not saying that that is controlling my seizures because
00:22:32.900 --> 00:23:01.810 Frank R. Harrison: I've had a unique combination of medications over the years, but that finally there was that special one that enabled me to be seizure free for since 19 since 2,005, so that would be 1 18 years. Now I keep. Sometimes I say 15, sometimes I say 18, because of the 3 year Covid experience, I sometimes lose track that it was 3 years, and not just the one that it felt like. But I was just saying that because I don't want to give doctors an easy way out. So let's just like not blame it on genetics.
00:23:02.150 --> 00:23:31.239 Frank R. Harrison: Well, at the same time, though, if you remember the disclaimer, everybody that probably has had conversations with their doctor and actually subscribe to the genetic theory. We're we're not making any offend. It's all our own interpretation. I mean right. No, no, I'm not a doctor, but but, Kate, would it be safe to say that as you've been engaged in
00:23:31.240 --> 00:23:41.979 Frank R. Harrison: your your practice and things like that, that you are basically seizure free, that you are not dealing with psychogenic reactions at this point, based on your own skill set.
00:23:42.050 --> 00:23:54.520 Kate Brennan: Yes, I have basically gotten to the point where I trained myself to take care of my own trauma, my own anxiety, my own mental health, and thus gotten to a place where I am seizure free.
00:23:55.350 --> 00:23:58.479 Frank R. Harrison: So you never even took medication.
00:23:58.980 --> 00:24:04.420 Kate Brennan: Now I was lucky. I am not anti medication, but
00:24:04.950 --> 00:24:12.819 Kate Brennan: I have been very lucky that I have been able to steer myself in a direction where I didn't have to go that route.
00:24:13.550 --> 00:24:20.200 Frank R. Harrison: But you did go into the route of dealing with herbal supplements. That is another I'd like to hear about. You want to share
00:24:20.310 --> 00:24:23.080 Frank R. Harrison: some information on that. Sure.
00:24:23.100 --> 00:24:36.490 Kate Brennan: So when it comes to epilepsy. It's really important. And a lot of people who have epilepsy. They know this. They're very. They're very wary when it comes to herbalism. And I actually love that
00:24:36.500 --> 00:24:38.420 Kate Brennan: I think that's very wise.
00:24:38.510 --> 00:24:59.820 Kate Brennan: There. There is a wariness of herbalism because there are a lot of herbs that they cannot take. So instead, you can try things like vitamin. B, 6. You can try magnesium vitamin e manganese taurine omega omega. 3 fatty acids, right? So you can try these things.
00:24:59.850 --> 00:25:17.630 Kate Brennan: You can make sure that you wanna stay away from Ginkgo. You wanna stay away from ginseng. You wanna stay away from evening primrose borage, oil, etcetera, and St. John's words. So it's very important that you just do your research and you work with somebody who knows what they're doing specifically when it comes to epilepsy.
00:25:18.150 --> 00:25:27.310 Jeff: Why, why would you want to stay away from Saint St. John's for can you? Can you just tell a lot of people are like, oh, why
00:25:27.670 --> 00:25:43.329 Kate Brennan: so? There's many reasons. That's a whole huge conversation. St. John's work is actually an amazing herb. I love St. John's work. I would say that you need to have the disclaimer of St. John's were is very picky.
00:25:43.400 --> 00:25:47.469 Kate Brennan: It either is great for you or it's really not.
00:25:47.670 --> 00:25:53.109 Kate Brennan: and it interacts very poorly with a lot of medications.
00:25:53.140 --> 00:26:04.670 Kate Brennan: So if you're on medications, you need to be very, very conscientious of working with St. John's work. And I would just say, if you're on medications, don't take it. There's a lot of herbs you can't take instead.
00:26:05.070 --> 00:26:08.720 Frank R. Harrison: So on that note. If you're not taking medications.
00:26:08.790 --> 00:26:21.620 Frank R. Harrison: and you're suffering from psychogenic seizures. St. John's word. Is that what you called it? St. John's word? Yes, okay, would be the best herb to consider. It can be a very helpful herb. Yes, absolutely.
00:26:21.840 --> 00:26:44.169 Jeff: And and for for people on medications, when you emphasize that they maybe consider something like, be complex or magnesium, those are the ones that you should take. Yes, yes, and manganese taurine, and something just as simple as Omega threes. Right? So getting really good fish oils in your diet. That's so important.
00:26:44.170 --> 00:26:56.280 Kate Brennan: making sure, also getting holistic here. Making sure that you get good sleep. Good quality. Sleep is so important because sleep is when our body actually repairs itself.
00:26:56.280 --> 00:27:05.979 Kate Brennan: So a huge trigger for a lot of people with epilepsy, whether that's trauma triggered or not, a huge trigger for a lot of people is not getting good. Sleep.
00:27:06.360 --> 00:27:07.160 Frank R. Harrison: Correct.
00:27:07.350 --> 00:27:22.670 Frank R. Harrison: correct. I think that was my default, Trigger before my first seizure. When I was 16 I believe I was not getting any sleep. I was doing over study for exams overnight with and going into the exam after sleeping 2 days earlier.
00:27:22.710 --> 00:27:45.389 Jeff: Right? Oh, gosh, yeah. And I also wanted to mention that there are anti convulsions that increase your risk for vitamin b deficiencies, you know, like their older medications, tegratole and dialant, and are are 2 of them. But it's something to keep in mind, as more anti convulsants are put on the market, and
00:27:45.390 --> 00:27:57.650 Jeff: anti cobaltons increases the vitamin d turnover in your body. So taking vitamin d is also something that people should keep in mind.
00:27:57.780 --> 00:27:59.420 Kate Brennan: Yes, absolutely.
00:27:59.660 --> 00:28:16.870 Frank R. Harrison: Now, what I do is I take essential water with electrolytes, and I know some of these things you mentioned are the electrolytes in the water magnesium, the vitamin DI take actually 5,000 I use of vitamin d every morning along with my medication.
00:28:16.900 --> 00:28:44.959 Frank R. Harrison: You know. I think it was. Believe they're not covid that got me addicted to this water, because they were saying that the electrolys also prevent the spread or the or the transmission of covid, but it also did a dual purpose being that I'm living with epilepsy. But how would you then qualify, for example, electrolyte water, or even what everybody's been talking about when it comes to mental health. Taking cannabis for medical use is that part of what you recommend to some of your clients.
00:28:45.280 --> 00:28:57.440 Kate Brennan: So I, in particular, am very cautious when it comes to cannabis. Cannabis can be extremely helpful. However, we're also seeing an epidemic of mental health disorders coming from cannabis.
00:28:57.690 --> 00:29:20.370 Kate Brennan: and I will let people do their own studies on that, because, honestly, I can talk about that for an hour straight, and people don't believe me because they have their own opinion highly suggest that they specifically look at the link between schizophrenia and cannabis, and they really weigh their options as real as well as if you're going to go that route and use cannabis
00:29:20.370 --> 00:29:32.970 Kate Brennan: again. It has some great benefits. You are just very, very conscientious of where you're getting your product. Where are you getting your product. How pure is your product? Because a lot of it is not pure. These days
00:29:33.610 --> 00:29:36.820 Frank R. Harrison: we're out for our second break, so we'll be back in a few.
00:31:40.200 --> 00:32:02.110 Frank R. Harrison: hey, everybody you just saw refugee life services.com, which is Kate's website this will kind of get us into one of your favorite topics, Jeff, which is sound therapy, but at the same time to go ahead and really understand. If I were to sign up and join refugee life services, how would your intake and your treatment plan? And
00:32:02.120 --> 00:32:05.450 Frank R. Harrison: everything happened for someone like myself living with epilepsy.
00:32:06.110 --> 00:32:26.770 Kate Brennan: so as far as intake goes, with refuge live services, we wanna make sure that we really talk about. Are we the best fit for each other? And that's a mutual discussion. That's not just one, sided II always wanna make that very clear because some people feel like they're being interviewed. That's not. That's not what's happening. So there's an intake
00:32:26.770 --> 00:32:41.029 Kate Brennan: paper that has to be filled out. I'm very strategic about the questions that I ask. We want to talk about what's bothering you. What kind of coaching do you want? Do you want naturopathy? Do you want, you know. Do you want all these services?
00:32:41.120 --> 00:32:51.219 Kate Brennan: Do you not want these services? What are you looking for? So you go through all this. You have a contact call with me. We have a call that lasts for about 20 to 30 min.
00:32:51.310 --> 00:32:55.720 Kate Brennan: We fill up paperwork. We fill up more paperwork, and then
00:32:55.870 --> 00:33:01.960 Kate Brennan: and then, if we're on the same page together, we start working together for a minimum of 12 weeks.
00:33:02.780 --> 00:33:21.379 Frank R. Harrison: Hopefully, the person that you're seeing doesn't have hypergraphia just a joke. But but the thing that I'm trying to figure out also is that when you have already had them go through the intake process. And then you start working together. Do you literally go through the understanding of
00:33:21.380 --> 00:33:35.379 Frank R. Harrison: what herbs they might try to go after, how to mix it with their medication if they are taking medication. And then when do you introduce alternatives like sound therapy? I guess I know it's variable, depending on the individual client
00:33:35.420 --> 00:33:42.250 Frank R. Harrison: or patient, however you refer to them. But how do you make the mix of all of those opportunities?
00:33:42.540 --> 00:33:54.790 Kate Brennan: It is variable. And it is very much directed by the client. So this is something that I love about coaching and consulting is the fact that they have a lot of stay in what they do
00:33:54.870 --> 00:34:19.929 Kate Brennan: so they get to decide. Do they want specific services, and don't they? So if they want sound therapy, if they want that, then we can put that into the package, and we can go ahead and start that program. And I love that because some people they come in and they want to do coaching that they don't want to do sound therapy, or they want to do breathwork. But they don't want to do coaching. So it's really very individualized.
00:34:20.270 --> 00:34:32.410 Frank R. Harrison: awesome, awesome. So what ha! Tell? Tell us about the sound therapy piece? I'm I'm kinda interested to know, like, are you using music? Are you using just specific sounds, I mean, how is that coordinated
00:34:32.670 --> 00:34:45.119 Kate Brennan: so sound therapy is very much based upon frequency, vibration, and auditory stimulation. So I use a lot of sound bowls or music bowls or singing bowls. They have many different names.
00:34:45.360 --> 00:34:48.169 Kate Brennan: Some of them are also Tibetan wolves.
00:34:48.380 --> 00:35:06.949 Kate Brennan: and then I have tuning forks, and these are all working with vibrations. Now, if somebody is epileptic and or they have something that is maybe very sensitive to sound, we might steer them more towards breathwork honestly, because this is going to give them
00:35:07.010 --> 00:35:13.140 Kate Brennan: a lot of the same benefits. But it's not going to have same stimulation as far as the auditory.
00:35:13.660 --> 00:35:34.709 Jeff: very likely trigger the seizure because only people don't realize that only 3% are caused by flashing lights or photosensitive epilepsy. Most of the time is triggered by an auditory or tactile or olfactory. Another sense?
00:35:35.050 --> 00:35:36.950 Kate Brennan: Yes, exactly.
00:35:37.220 --> 00:35:41.249 Frank R. Harrison: But but is it also a form of meditation? Or is it
00:35:41.360 --> 00:35:58.020 Kate Brennan: okay? So I mean the meditation component is through the breath work. Yes, exactly so, meditating on your breath, giving them something to focus on one of the things that I see when it comes to meditation practices is, they think that they're supposed to just empty their minds.
00:35:58.430 --> 00:36:04.029 Kate Brennan: And this is one type of meditation. But we see this more in the Eastern cultures.
00:36:04.180 --> 00:36:22.679 Kate Brennan: And this is something that is very, very difficult for us to obtain. If you don't give something for someone to actually focus on within the meditation. So, focusing on your breath, counting your breath, focusing on the inhale, focusing on the exhale. That is the meditation.
00:36:22.710 --> 00:36:27.540 Kate Brennan: And if you don't give them that. Then their mind just wanders, and they feel like they're failing.
00:36:28.150 --> 00:36:36.830 Jeff: And and do you do it in on a 4? Count out, excel through your mouth on a 4. Count in in, through your nose.
00:36:36.920 --> 00:36:38.219 Jeff: out through your mouth.
00:36:38.400 --> 00:36:52.980 Kate Brennan: So that's one type of breathwork that would be boxed. Breathing is something that I see a lot, and I use to get them started in the beginning. So box breathwork is something that you you literally picture the 4 sides of a box.
00:36:53.010 --> 00:36:56.220 Kate Brennan: So you breathe in for 4 s in through your nose
00:36:57.370 --> 00:37:00.799 Kate Brennan: in through 4 s. And then you hold for 4 s.
00:37:00.820 --> 00:37:10.890 Kate Brennan: Okay, so we're gonna hold our breath for 4 s hold. And then we're gonna breathe out through our mouth for 4 s. and then we're gonna hold on empty for 4 s.
00:37:11.490 --> 00:37:15.839 Kate Brennan: and then we're gonna repeat. So, breathing in for 4 s, that's the first side
00:37:16.130 --> 00:37:22.009 Kate Brennan: holding for 4 s. That's the second side. Third side is breathing out for 4 s.
00:37:22.030 --> 00:37:25.949 Kate Brennan: and then so, and then the second hold on empty
00:37:26.010 --> 00:37:34.910 Kate Brennan: is our last repetition, and just repeating that and visualizing a box. So that's a great way to get started if you want to learn breathwork.
00:37:35.210 --> 00:37:38.740 Jeff: And wouldn't that be good for problems with sleeping?
00:37:39.010 --> 00:37:45.159 Kate Brennan: Absolutely. I use this a lot with clients who are dealing with sleep issues, and they are
00:37:45.410 --> 00:37:50.250 Kate Brennan: through the roof when they come back the next week or 2, and they're like, Oh, my gosh! I slept
00:37:52.330 --> 00:38:01.170 Frank R. Harrison: well! Here's another question, though you haven't had a case where a person comes in, whether they're doing sound work or breathwork, and they actually go into a seizure, have you?
00:38:01.590 --> 00:38:07.699 I have not with breathwork, and I have not with sound therapy, because I am so incredibly
00:38:07.750 --> 00:38:08.880 Kate Brennan: cautious.
00:38:09.110 --> 00:38:19.800 Frank R. Harrison: and I ask a lot of questions. II drive people crazy because I asked a lot of questions on the front side. But I'm like, I want to make sure that we're keeping you safe as you go into these practices.
00:38:19.980 --> 00:38:26.809 Kate Brennan: So we start with the very sound therapy. Do do you also do yoga, too. Or
00:38:27.060 --> 00:38:37.660 Kate Brennan: so I do have a yoga practice. It's actually it's not technically yoga, but it's very similar. It's called hagga, which means to meditate or to ponder. It's actually Hebrew word
00:38:37.700 --> 00:38:47.450 Kate Brennan: and so we do something that is similar. It's a recovery system. It's specifically focusing on emotional regulation and trauma regulation.
00:38:47.520 --> 00:39:10.460 Kate Brennan: So I do have sessions that are similar to yoga based. I don't mix them with the breathwork all the time, because I'm trying to teach one at a time. And I'm trying to really focus on getting the tool to a place of complete understanding. So they're really understanding how to utilize breathwork or how to utilize
00:39:11.270 --> 00:39:29.930 Frank R. Harrison: interesting. So then, how is it that you are obtaining your client base? Are you sending your website out through social media? I know this appearance on this episode of Frank about health will probably enroll some people. How would how would you recommend people to find you through your website or another channel.
00:39:30.050 --> 00:39:54.800 Kate Brennan: Yes, my website is a great way to find me. I do a lot of work with my website, because there's so much information on my website. It's a little bit of an overload if you are just looking for a quick blurb, because there's a lot on there. But if you're really looking to try and get to know who I am, what I do and everything that encompasses what I do in my practice. The website is a great place to start. So look at the website.
00:39:55.090 --> 00:40:15.059 Frank R. Harrison: do you? Do you have their the patients? Doctors refer them to you, or are you able to work with their doctors while they're in session with you. How is that? I do a lot of work with the doctors through the clients, so we kind of make the clients, the go to person
00:40:15.100 --> 00:40:31.280 Kate Brennan: that way. They have control over their own care. Because this is coaching. It's not therapy. So they really have to maintain their own control. And that's something that I said like, I really love being able to coach and consult, because it really puts them in the in the seat and in the driver's seat.
00:40:31.780 --> 00:40:41.070 Jeff: And how about your opinion on the holistic lifestyle? That's something you emphasize in your practice, isn't it?
00:40:41.110 --> 00:41:07.880 Kate Brennan: It is now, when we say holistic. I think it's important to kind of backed up and just say holistic refers to understanding the whole person as different parts of your body are interconnected. So the way that your soul or your your mind, your will and your emotions is connected to your physical body. The way that your emotional body is connected to your physical body. So, for example, your gut biome.
00:41:07.950 --> 00:41:22.759 Kate Brennan: your gut biome, if it's out of whack, that's your physical body. But it's going to impact your mental capacity and your mental abilities, because your gut biome is where we make a lot of the good chemicals that our brain needs to focus and to function
00:41:23.020 --> 00:41:38.849 Kate Brennan: again. If you have emotions that are out of whack that's going to cause, let's say anxiety, then you could start hyperventilating. And then we could get into other health issues that affect the physical body. So holistic refers to the whole body being interconnected.
00:41:39.520 --> 00:41:48.920 Frank R. Harrison: So therefore, you're looking at the individual that is reflecting on physical pain that is also triggered by their mental health issue, that they're dealing with.
00:41:49.200 --> 00:42:11.119 Frank R. Harrison: What percentage of your clients is epilepsy versus Adhd versus Ptsd. Can can you have a percentage on each of your type of clients? That would be a little bit hard right now, because they're all overlapping. Is it like 50 50 youth and adults? Or is it mainly children, or I do, I would say, like 50 50
00:42:11.130 --> 00:42:36.339 Kate Brennan: youth and adults. So I work with all ages anywhere from 13 and up. I'm a little bit unique in that perspective, because I do work with all some younger individuals. I work with teenagers when they are willing to work with me. That's kind of a caveat when they're willing to work with me. I work with teenagers, and that's something that I really pride myself on. I also work with parents. I work with
00:42:36.340 --> 00:42:43.810 Kate Brennan: couples. I work with individuals to our adults. So I'm all over the place, and I span a myriad of people
00:42:44.310 --> 00:42:45.370 Frank R. Harrison: awesome
00:42:45.490 --> 00:43:07.629 Jeff: and the nerve connections in your stomach. There's so many of them, and it's a strictly, it's straight to your brain. It's a a quick connection. That's why there's so much of that involved in your work, right and all that involved. Exactly so, really, looking at
00:43:07.630 --> 00:43:23.820 Kate Brennan: diet, looking at exercise, people forget about how important exercise is, but we really need it in order to regulate things like anxiety. So looking at all these pieces and bringing them into the coaching that is so strategic. And that is so important.
00:43:24.450 --> 00:43:38.550 Frank R. Harrison: Okay, so when we return. We are gonna talk more about her practice, some events that Jeff is gonna be doing in the future and the future right here on Talkradio, Dot, Nyc. And on our social media. So please stay tuned.
00:45:42.350 --> 00:46:00.149 Frank R. Harrison: Hey. Everybody. During the last break you saw the poster that I received from Jeff and some of his assistants about an upcoming epilepsy conference which you've already heard about a few times on us last, which we covered on the Vegas nerve. For example, do you wanna promote it a little bit, Jeff, before we continue on with our conversation.
00:46:00.550 --> 00:46:08.470 Jeff: Yeah. So we're hoping that it's going to be an epilepsy information sharing session. And Josie Martinez and
00:46:08.530 --> 00:46:32.029 Jeff: Karen Nicole. Hopefully, she'll be joining us. Her book is more about invisible illness and her journey. So it's hopefully going to be an invisible illness, information, sharing session. So it's it's an evolving event. We're gonna have a bunch of different people with the autism, anxiety.
00:46:32.030 --> 00:46:41.150 Jeff: epilepsy. So more and more people are starting to be interested in the event. So we're we're we're hoping to have a good time.
00:46:41.150 --> 00:47:05.159 Jeff: And we're refreshments are included. It's in a 1 45 Westbrook drive Thomas River, New Jersey. We're having people from South Jersey. We're having people from Jersey shore. We're having people from New York City. So we're gonna have a you know. Everybody. Come along come down to the Jersey shore. And just you know it. Learn about epilepsy and learn about the the things involved with it.
00:47:05.970 --> 00:47:34.620 Jeff: Okay, and that. And that note that address you gave is that someone's home, or is that a venue, or is that a well, it's a housing community, and that is their clubhouse. That's where they are organized games, organized events. They have all different types, and they've set up a a nice venue for us. So with it all being colored purple and all that kind of stuff, because it's epilepsy awareness month. So it's a it's gonna be fun
00:47:35.040 --> 00:47:40.909 Jeff: alright. And and you know, we've been talking about mental health awareness month I guess, is epilepsy awareness month.
00:47:40.980 --> 00:47:42.430 Frank R. Harrison: November.
00:47:42.480 --> 00:48:01.569 Jeff: yeah. November for the United States. And in March for Canada. So so we we do a little bit of both. Yes, then there's epilepsy awareness week in in May. So but I do it all year long, I mean, so
00:48:01.580 --> 00:48:24.380 Jeff: no, don't worry about it. We're aware of it every day, so we have to figure out some moments to celebrate it. I post every day on my profile, and sometimes it's not even about epilepsy. It's about different topics related to it. It's about memory or anxiety. Adhd. All the issues that are related to it. So
00:48:24.510 --> 00:48:36.819 Frank R. Harrison: yeah, awesome, awesome. And and you, Kate, other than your practice, are you involved in any conferences or talks, or anything gonna be happening over the holiday season, or even New Year
00:48:37.000 --> 00:48:47.900 Kate Brennan: over the holiday season. I am going to be focusing on just getting some group coaching ready hopefully and getting some classes ready. So it's gonna be really fun.
00:48:48.410 --> 00:48:51.949 Frank R. Harrison: Okay, guys, you're you also do teaching on the side at the same time.
00:48:52.140 --> 00:49:04.610 Kate Brennan: So I do. Teaching through coaching, consulting. And so just doing a group sessions, group coaching that looks a little bit different. And there's a lot more teaching involved in group coaching than one on one.
00:49:04.720 --> 00:49:06.339 Kate Brennan: So that's a lot of fun.
00:49:07.000 --> 00:49:17.619 Jeff: And the dynamics is very different. When it's a group you. You have to. How do you organize that? How do you arrange?
00:49:19.090 --> 00:49:23.990 Kate Brennan: that's a great question. We're figuring that out right now.
00:49:24.340 --> 00:49:34.200 Frank R. Harrison: We are kind of networking with people in the community trying to get word out through the community and people in the community. So there's actually
00:49:34.330 --> 00:49:49.240 Kate Brennan: some community involvement that people who are just hoping to host and kind of help host different groups. And so we'll just see we're gonna find out.
00:49:49.630 --> 00:49:56.809 Well, I mean, I guess what I was going to say earlier in the third segment about your practice is that that you became a secret
00:49:56.830 --> 00:50:07.849 Frank R. Harrison: evolve from your own condition, and I guess most patients don't hear about this in with through their neurologists. I know I've never heard about it till I met you through Jeff. So that being said.
00:50:08.120 --> 00:50:31.490 Frank R. Harrison: what is it that makes an individual person suffering, whether it's Ptsd Adhd or epilepsy realize to come to you? Do they have some pipeline into what you're doing through the community or through their doctor, or, what is most common way, that a lot of individuals have realized that they are taking control of their treatment and getting involved in holistic therapy.
00:50:31.990 --> 00:50:37.589 Yeah, so honestly, the big platform of social media is very helpful in getting involved.
00:50:37.640 --> 00:50:54.789 Kate Brennan: I have found it a great way to connect with people especially when they're unsure about how to go about. You know what kind of help they need. They see a therapist. Do they see a coach? What kind of coach there's so many coaches out there, and it's blowing up right now in this industry.
00:50:55.020 --> 00:51:13.929 Kate Brennan: And it's very difficult to kind of understand what kind of coaches right for you. So I have found it very helpful to get on social media and just talk about, you know, holistic and mindset work, and how they intertwine. And people have kind of g10, okay, I think you might be a good fit.
00:51:14.630 --> 00:51:22.119 Frank R. Harrison: So do you have an Instagram following as well like Jeff does? I do. I do. It's small, it's modest, but I do
00:51:22.170 --> 00:51:27.460 Frank R. Harrison: awesome. Well, overall the thing that I go ahead.
00:51:27.660 --> 00:51:38.679 Jeff: Well, II was gonna you were gonna mention some examples of the psycho or the somatic connection, teaching the somatic connection.
00:51:39.220 --> 00:51:48.760 Kate Brennan: Yes, so somatic work. We're dealing with the body and not just the brain is really important when we're dealing with the whole body and the holistic perspective.
00:51:48.790 --> 00:52:15.970 Kate Brennan: So when we're dealing with our health, it's really important to also deal with our emotions like we've talked about right? So the connection between anxiety and epilepsy, the connection between Adhd and brain fog. You know, I could go on and on and on. One of the ways that we can help to understand the connection between our emotions and our physical health is by working with somatic work or learning how our embodies embody our beliefs.
00:52:16.170 --> 00:52:45.590 Kate Brennan: So I'm gonna walk you through a little way of doing that. So we're gonna start with the physical sensations in your body. And you're gonna just start with your head in your shoulders, your upper arms, your chest, and your heart, your stomach moving down the body into the upper legs, the hips and the lower legs and the feet, and you're gonna start naming to yourself the sensations that you feel. So. For example, I have clients who will often say my shoulders are really tight. They feel really heavy.
00:52:45.870 --> 00:52:52.749 Kate Brennan: Okay, so that's a physical sensation. Then we move into the emotional feelings connected to sensations.
00:52:52.870 --> 00:52:58.910 Kate Brennan: So what is the emotional feeling that you would connect to your heavy shoulders.
00:52:59.060 --> 00:53:06.000 Kate Brennan: I feel statement. I feel like my my shoulders are heavy because I'm carrying the weight
00:53:06.090 --> 00:53:08.819 Kate Brennan: of my family's finances.
00:53:10.180 --> 00:53:15.979 Kate Brennan: Okay, see how we just went from our physical body to our thinking and our our feeling body.
00:53:16.260 --> 00:53:21.300 Frank R. Harrison: And we take it one step further. Now we're gonna look at the beliefs connected to the feelings.
00:53:21.470 --> 00:53:32.969 Kate Brennan: So I feel like my shoulders are really tight and heavy, because I'm carrying the weight of my family's finances, because our financial ruin is all my fault.
00:53:33.550 --> 00:53:34.849 Frank R. Harrison: Ha! Ha!
00:53:35.130 --> 00:53:36.700 Frank R. Harrison: Some implications.
00:53:36.830 --> 00:53:42.579 Kate Brennan: Bingo! So now we can get to the root of the belief
00:53:42.610 --> 00:53:47.420 Kate Brennan: that is impacting our physical health because our beliefs
00:53:47.470 --> 00:54:00.960 Kate Brennan: turn into our physical health. So if we're thinking negative thoughts, they're gonna manifest through our tissues, through our organs, through the way that we feel and the way that we think a lot of people are gonna start dealing with malaise.
00:54:01.160 --> 00:54:05.039 Kate Brennan: or just a general feeling of unwellness and fatigue.
00:54:05.310 --> 00:54:11.740 Frank R. Harrison: Right? Right? So they're gonna start feeling these things. And what we need to do is we need to look at the physical sensation
00:54:12.020 --> 00:54:16.859 Kate Brennan: connect it with the emotion. So I felt my shoulders. They were really heavy.
00:54:17.160 --> 00:54:31.830 Kate Brennan: the emotional sensation or the emotional feeling. I'm carrying the weight of my family's finances and the belief. Okay, I'm carrying them because it's my fault. And then we need to look at. Is it really your fault? And that's where coach is really important.
00:54:32.070 --> 00:54:35.789 Jeff: and it is this a form of cognitive behavioral therapy
00:54:35.930 --> 00:54:39.889 Kate Brennan: it is, and somatic work. So the 2 combine.
00:54:40.030 --> 00:54:41.020 Jeff: Yes.
00:54:41.410 --> 00:54:49.140 Frank R. Harrison: so when people come to see you. They don't think of you as a therapist. First, you're just using the technique of Cbt in your coaching work.
00:54:49.280 --> 00:55:05.390 Kate Brennan: Correct? Correct? So I use a lot of Cbt Cbt based therapy. Even though I'm not a therapist. I'm not a therapist. And I do work with a lot of Cbt based techno techniques because they are so
00:55:05.950 --> 00:55:08.269 Kate Brennan: importance. And they're so helpful.
00:55:08.520 --> 00:55:10.539 Frank R. Harrison: right? Right? Right?
00:55:10.750 --> 00:55:28.170 Frank R. Harrison: Incredible. Ii have a little bit of promotional work to do because we have 2 min till the end of the show. But then usually at the end of the show, I call you right away, but you're on the West Coast, and I have your email account. So I will be getting back to you in about an hour when I return home.
00:55:28.170 --> 00:55:43.290 Frank R. Harrison: But I want everyone to be aware that this is the third episode of mental health awareness month and next week on Frank about health. We're going to have nutrition for the mind. In other words, it's the way you eat that improves in your mental health.
00:55:43.340 --> 00:55:51.630 Frank R. Harrison: And we just also have to announce tomorrow's latest shows right here on talk radio, Nyc. Starting at 10 A. M. With
00:55:51.710 --> 00:55:57.490 Frank R. Harrison: philanthropy and focus with Tommy d. 110'clock, Stephen Fry, and always Friday
00:55:57.710 --> 00:56:03.579 Frank R. Harrison: at 120'clock, intangify with Matthew Asbell closing out with the hard skills. And Dr. Mira Branku.
00:56:03.620 --> 00:56:26.929 Frank R. Harrison: and then we'll be back again next week. Now I wanted to get to that right away, because the other promotional aspects that involve all 3 of us, as I already showed Jeff, your upcoming conference that's coming up as promised, I will show that every week, and especially as things develop, you'll give more to cents about what's going on or who's been added, so forth and so on. Everyone. I'm here at Nyu Langone health.
00:56:26.930 --> 00:56:40.879 Frank R. Harrison: And this Saturday at Chelsea Piers, in New York City is their annual game day event. I know myself and Jose Dennis, who's been here on the show, will be there volunteering to help with people who suffer from epilepsy. Under the age of 16
00:56:40.880 --> 00:56:58.469 Frank R. Harrison: they will play all their video on arcade games and skating and volleyball and baseball, and whatever is going on, pizza will be there. I'm going to show as my music goes out the Qur code. If you want to participate in Game Day, it's sponsored by Nyu Langone health, and it is
00:56:58.700 --> 00:57:05.400 Frank R. Harrison: by faces finding a cure for epilepsy and seizures. So that was another promotional vehicle.
00:57:05.700 --> 00:57:07.060 Frank R. Harrison: Also, again.
00:57:07.220 --> 00:57:23.199 Frank R. Harrison: aside from that, please, if you are in need of understanding your body and mind relationship, especially if you're suffering from psychogenic seizures, or or Adhd, or, of course, just regular epilepsy.
00:57:23.530 --> 00:57:25.820 Frank R. Harrison: Please go on to
00:57:25.980 --> 00:57:33.279 Frank R. Harrison: Kate's website again. Can you announce it for everybody? Because I don't have. I know it's a long name. Can you announce it? Everybody, so that they can join?
00:57:33.320 --> 00:57:36.619 Kate Brennan: Yes, refugeeservices.com.
00:57:37.080 --> 00:57:52.679 Frank R. Harrison: Okay? And then also be aware of Jeff's stages of epilepsy. Instagram account. This show will be eventually linked on there when all the files are ready. So again, thank you both Jeff and Kate for this show. I know Jeff will be in touch on.
00:57:52.730 --> 00:57:58.890 Frank R. Harrison: you know, about our next schedule show whenever that will be, and I just want everybody to be aware that
00:57:59.010 --> 00:58:09.310 Frank R. Harrison: we're gonna be signing off, and I think we still have a minute left where I will be showing that QR. Code, and then I will call you both after this episode has aired.
00:58:09.340 --> 00:58:10.720 Frank R. Harrison: So take care!
00:58:10.980 --> 00:58:13.190 Jeff: Alright! Alright! Thank you.
00:58:13.420 --> 00:58:15.129 Frank R. Harrison: You're welcome. Bye, bye.
00:58:15.400 --> 00:58:21.480 Jeff: alright!
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